Last edited by Starwander; 09-27-2007 at 12:01 PM.
Keep in mind that if video game collecting ever goes mainstream (which I believe it will within 5-10 years) and third party grading companies enter the picture, using any type of replacement label, etc. will be considered a form of restoration!
A lot of comic book collectors found this out the hard way when CGC (Comics Guaranty Corp.) entered the picture back in 2000 and started grading comic books. Everyone laughed when they started to encapsulate comic books in plastic. I however can tell you I was happy when I sold my comic book collection for $50,000 because the value of near mint unrestored CGC comics went through the roof. Restoration kills value. So if you are a collector of anything, you do it at your own risk.
I know that some of you reading this are laughing and thinking that the idea of grading video games is stupid, but a lot of collectors said that about toys, action figures (both loose and carded), sports cards, comic books, and coins.
This is just a word of caution. By all means if you just want the game for your own use pursue it.
The more I look at CD games, the more experience I have in seeing whether or not they were "buffed" or "resurfaced". The ones that were, I tend to look at like a red headed step child. I hate to say that, but to me it has to be MINT and NATURAL.
Just my opinion...keep that in mind!
I would be interested in this, and not just for NES games. I'm a gamer-collector, meaning I collect to play, not just for collecting itself, so replica labels doesn't bother me. That said, perhaps you should consider putting a small "watermark" that IDs your labels as replicas so hardcore collectors will be accepting.
There's already replacement shells for console systems. Why not go a step further? I'd like replacement labels if they were marked as such. You should see the condition of a Tecmo Super Bowl I sold recently...
Replacement labels would be nice ... however, being able to completely and totally cleanly remove an official label from an NES cartridge is quite the task.
If you're going to make replacement labels, you should come up with a guaranteed technique and product (something like goo-gone, which is pretty hit-or miss if you ask me) to get the cartridge casing down to the smooth gray plastic (no sticker glue residue/label chunklets) ... or else a replacement label will be practically useless.
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not to through a wrench in, but how would you get the licensing to repo the label??
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I say only make them for R10 games.
Kidding, just stirring trouble here.
But seriously, I do think that a repro label does reduce value. To make them indistinguishable would be tough. Ask any pirater out there. However, if you did indeed make them indistinguishable, I'm scared for collectors in a way. At the same time, I feel for the people with messed up labels. My thoughts? Only make them for commons...no wait, that kind of defeats the purpose, since they can always buy another common, and who wants to restore a common? I dunno, mixed feelings, I guess. It seems folks would only wanna do this for rare games with messed up labels.
However, if you made the labels more like collectors cards instead, those would be a very cool collectible if you wrote some data about the game on back and maybe put DP ratings on them (with DP permission, of course).
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I think it's an amazing Idea. I've always wished someone (like Nintendo) would offer new boxes, and manuals for every Nes games made. I think they would sell pretty good.
I agree, they would have to be perfect reproductions of the originals.
Last edited by Nescollector; 09-24-2007 at 05:03 PM.
I do like the idea. However like others have said the quality of the label needs to be REALLY good and there should be some kind of symbol in a corner of the labels front artwork so a repro label could easily be spotted in auction pictures and what not.
Anything to keep the values of games low I'm all for, but honestly? I think it would be fun to make NEW labels for classic games, as we all know alot of games had questionalbe box art (yeah megaman..i'm fucking looking at you..what the hell?) just think of all the creative ideas people could come up with for replacement labels? everything from just resizing the japanese art to coming up with totally new ideas. That i'd lay some cash down for, team that up with the clear tinted game cases another site is selling, would add some fun back to the hobby for those of us who have everything we want.
I doubt you could find a way to make them to the point where you could not tell the difference between originals and fakes...
You defanatly need to mark them in a way so you can tell it's not the original label
There has to be something on the cart that identifies it as a repro. That being said, make sure it's something someone who isn't really into collecting wouldn't notice. Fibbing to a friend should be possible. "I have one of those mint. Follow me, I'll show you."
Can you do SNES Labels, I have some with Bad or No Labels
yeah ,I have a bunch of these wierd carts with stupid typed labels that say "property of nintendo please return" and like these holes with chips sticking out, i'd love to get some new labels for those.
As long as you repro label everything Bio Force Ape with a big red-rubber-stamp "PROTOTYPE" over the rest of the label everything should be hunky dory.
*poppin in an eBay "find" that just arrived* Wow guys, look! Bio Force Ape is just a SMB/DH clone. They didn't hack it or anything. Lazy bastards.
Seriously, I'd omit the Nintendo Seal of Quality at the least. The crap label art on some games (Mega Man comes to mind) could be changed too. If you're going to re-label it, might as well do it right or at least better.
Last edited by Icarus Moonsight; 09-25-2007 at 02:30 AM.
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I'm all for it. But i think that if you go ahead with the project, in addition to a small asterisk or otherwise noticable difference, there should be a 'checkpoint' of sorts.
If a person wants a copy of a label for a high-profile cart, like Stadium Events or another sought-after game, they need to request the label, and you need to provide them with some kind of unique identifier. Open the dictionary and pick a random word. The buyer would then have to write that word on a piece of paper, and take a photo of it with the cart they want to replace the label on. That would cut down on the number of assholes trying to profit off your service, not to mention trying to rip off unsuspecting people.
You could also limit each person to one label per title, and track it in a database or spreadsheet.
I'd really like to see this come to fruitition.
I'm not trying to be an asshole, but I think it's a terrible idea that shouldn't come to be. I don't mind people that do it for themselves and keep track of what is original and what isn't. But anything more than for yourself I have a problem with.
First off, you would be doing this service and making some (even if nominal) profit off of Nintendo's property. I'm pretty sure that's illegal. Regardless, the main problem I have is that it is really just trash you are pasting on your cartridge, tainting the cart with something that shouldn't be there. (RevQuixo said it best in his post). I see it the same as someone losing their Halo game disc and replacing it with a DVD-R backup.
The last thing I want is to have to watch out for and worry about buying games with reproduction labels.
Something I wouldn't mind however, would be completely original labels using new art that didn't resemble the original label, with "reproduction label" in decent sized letters on the label.