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    For a brief window in the mid-2000s, video games became politicians' favorite piņata. Joe Lieberman and Ted Kennedy spoke out against 2004's JFK Reloaded, a game that let you re-enact the Kennedy assassination. The "Hot Coffee" modification to Grand Theft Auto—which allowed players to (poorly) simulate intercourse with in-game girlfriends—left Lieberman and Hillary Clinton in a huff in 2005. That same year, the Illinois Legislature (among many others) banned the sale of violent games to minors, with then-Gov. Rod Blagojevich sending a message to "the parents of Illinois" pointing out that "98 percent of the games considered suitable by the industry for teenagers contain graphic violence."

    The last couple of years haven't been as fruitful for video game scolds. Jack Thompson, the longtime face of the anti-game-violence movement, was recently banned from practicing law in Florida. The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals just ruled that a California law banning the sale of violent video games to minors was unconstitutional. There is a Wii in the White House. With America's pro-gaming forces gathering strength, crusading politicians must now journey beyond our shores to find games to rail against. Enter New York City Council Speaker Christine Quinn, who has joined with the New York City Alliance Against Sexual Assault in calling for a stateside ban of a Japanese "rape simulator" game called RapeLay.
    http://www.slate.com/id/2213073


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    I'm not in favor of government bans or anything of that sort but I do think that some games are just creatively irresponsible.

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    Wow. Just... wow. That's so wrong, just disgusting, just crude and way too far over the line. It's not tasteful, it's not "nice" in ANY way/shape/form.






    I want it.

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    Rape is not porn. It is not desirable or appealing. I actually insulted an artist I once respected because he decided to start drawing rape pictures. Guess regular porn isn't enough for the guy anymore.

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    I remember hearing about this game when it was first released in April 2006. At that time everyone was ridicule GTA: SA hot coffee mod. I find it funny people now starting to notice this game after 2.5 years.

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    This is pretty sick. Where is the line? Im surprised there isnt a child molesting game. Its not far from that.
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    Eh. I'd play it.

    Always what's the point of banning a game from another country?

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    Known about it a long time. There's a good review about it here:

    http://www.honestgamers.com/systems/...etitle=RapeLay

    Kinda silly to jump on it now. It's been around for years, and it would be pretty difficult to stop people from importing it (or finding and punishing people who've owned it a long time now). They also can't get very far policing it on the internet. Even if they try to keep Americans from hosting it, they can't control foreigners, nor can they easily figure out if Americans are downloading from said foreigners. Really, they can't get anywhere with this period because a few years back the Supreme Court overturned a law banning CG child pornography. As messed up as it is, there's nothing about the game that seems to be illegal for an adult to own and view, and with protection of freedom of speech on the internet, they can't go and get rid of everything just because children may access it. That's why child pornography is the only type of pornography they can crack down on because it's illegal for anyone at any age.

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    Something else to add to the "WTF Japan??" list.

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    Haha, I can't believe they're talking about this on CNN:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch1KYB-8cNY

    Never thought I'd see the day that they're talking about Japanese hentai games starring CG anime girls. :P

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    This was on gamepro.com a month or so ago. There was about to be a polical movement against it. The only thing they accomplished was getting it removed from amazon. It's still(unfortunately) readily available on ebay. And I agree that you won't be able to stop people from importing it. But still.....of all the wacky bizarre shit the Japanese are into, this has got to be by far the worse. It's even worse than tenticle porn with school girls. I guess the captain can sum it up best....

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    People are horrified by this, but barely blink an eye at the hundreds of games where you gibb humans into gooey little bits.

    I know the argument goes that rape is "psychologically fucked up" etc. etc. and that getting off it on is, well wrong, but I always thought killing people was worse. One life and all that shit.

    Before anyone thinks I'm supporting this, I'm not. Not in the slightest. It's retarded. While funny that some idiot spent his time making it, it really doesn't need to exist. Nonetheless, there's a shitload of games that have lots of illegal behavior going on, a lot of which is worse than rape. FYI, I qualify "murder" as worse than rape. Even if you don't, it's definitely up there. So why flip a shit about this game? It's not realistic in the slightest, and it's just way too ridiculous to be taken seriously.

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    I don't think it should be banned. It's certainly fucked up, but I don't think it's something we should consider taking seriously or even the notion of people taking it seriously over here in the States, or Canada, or Europe. It's not something that 99.9% of the population of any country in the west would find remotely interesting.

    If anything, I think the only thing this represents is a certain inherently creepy aspect of Japanese culture that is utterly rape-obsessed. It's fucked up, but I seriously think it's a cultural thing.

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    If anything, banning would give it more attention. I doubt most people had any idea this existed. Fuck, I play video games a lot, and I had no clue.

    Now everyone will know, especially if there's a push to ban it. I can smell the eBay profits...

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    Quote Originally Posted by unwinddesign View Post
    If anything, banning would give it more attention. I doubt most people had any idea this existed. Fuck, I play video games a lot, and I had no clue.

    Now everyone will know, especially if there's a push to ban it. I can smell the eBay profits...
    eBay and Amazon banned it. Although legal in the US for now, no major online store carries it. It's almost impossible to find.

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    Aren't there heaps of games like this in Japan? They act like Japan just came out with something new and bizarre, instead of creating a slew of horrible games throughout the years. Check out Something Awful's reviews, including RapeLay: http://www.somethingawful.com/d/hentai-game-reviews/

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    Hopefully it won't incite any violence towards women and will instead help curb such things. Shouldn't be banned as disgusting as it is but it was irresponsible of the company that made it to do so. Anyone who buys it has issues for sure. Pretty sad stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonicwolf View Post
    This is pretty sick. Where is the line? Im surprised there isnt a child molesting game. Its not far from that.
    There are probably tons of them.

    This game has been out for years. No one knew this game existed. By raising a stink about this game now, they're increasing the number of downloads or purchases this is getting tenfold.

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    You know what getting this game banned only allows more people to download them. I am pretty sure some kid will be downloading them via Torrent. If anything they should've kept this low profile.

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    It's true that this isn't news. Rape simulators and various types of games/anime are not new. I've seen a few in my day and though I haven't played/seen this one I'd bet it's not the worst of the bunch, either. I think this can be summed up, though, by taking a look at A Clockwork Orange.

    In the novel, the main character rapes a couple of ten year olds. In the movie adaptation, however, it's changed to consensual sex with older teens. This, I think, defines the difference. With a book, simple prose, it's just words. It's far less jarring because it really is "just a story." But when adapted to film, now you're dealing with something far more vivid and even in a movie as fucked up as A Clockwork Orange, not many people would be comfortable depicting a child rape scene. Especially since these girls would be played by actresses who are actually real people. I'm all for creative freedom but creative freedom comes paired with creative responsibility. And filming the scene as it was written would have been creatively irresponsible.

    I'm convinced the only reason games/hentai like this can 'get away with it' is because it is "just a cartoon." It might be in bad taste but it has the same kind of defenses that the Clockwork novel would use.

    I'll be perfectly honest. I think Manhunt pushes into creative irresponsibility, too. But, again, it's "just a cartoon...sort of." I guarantee that if CGI were capable of mimicking reality flawlessly then a game like Manhunt wouldn't be able find a market. Who'd want to play it if it were that real, right? I think the same thing goes for these rape simulators or hentai where the oldest female involved is a whopping 12 years old. If it got "too real" it ends up crossing that line into "what the fuck this is sick" to even the most dedicated supporters.

    I'm sort of talking out of both ends of my mouth here. But what I'm trying to get at is that at some point an offensive concept is less offensive to the masses because of the limitations of the medium itself. When moved into a different medium, or when the limitations of a medium are removed from the equation, then all of a sudden something relatively innocent turns into something incredibly disturbing.
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