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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanMurf View Post
    Can you explain how it was done in lemans terms if you dont know exactly because im amazed that a reflow of the original solder has lasted this long.
    They put the console in an oven and bake it like a cake.

    Why would you think xclamp fixing some solder reflowing are the same thing?
    Reflow isn't a "fancy" way of saying xclamp fix. It's a whole different process.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saferkefka View Post
    i wouldnt mess with the xclamp fix. i would find someone on craigslist that does reflowing. i picked up a cheap 360 that had video problems and had it reflowed, its been working almost a year with no problems at all.
    the penny trick works for a good bit of time, eventually the clamp would give way but nothing a little bending would not help.

    I doubt there are many people on craigslist that can do a solder reflow. i would venture to guess it not more then a hairdryer job.


    by the way i removed reballed the xbox chips when the problems first occurred years back, you can look under xboxscene under same name for more info. you only put the board in the oven to get the temp up equally so you dont warp it but you need a special ($$$) machine to remove reinstall the chip ( i used one by called sniper) and you need another one to re-ball.

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    lets say that i sent my 360 to microsoft. what do that do to fix the problem?
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    Quote Originally Posted by geezuzkhrist119 View Post
    lets say that i sent my 360 to microsoft. what do that do to fix the problem?
    Probably just another refurbished console, not the same one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by megasdkirby View Post
    Probably just another refurbished console, not the same one.
    i think he was asking how they get refurbished. i assume that they collect the rrod boxes and send back to the manufacture for rework. dont think msft does that type of stuff in house

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    Quote Originally Posted by HappehLemons View Post
    They put the console in an oven and bake it like a cake.

    Why would you think xclamp fixing some solder reflowing are the same thing?
    Reflow isn't a "fancy" way of saying xclamp fix. It's a whole different process.

    I dont think that. I know what im talking about im sure I have surpassed you by the hundreds in xbox repairs but reflowing is pretty much explained by its own term. It is the process of reflowing extreme amounts of heat to the solder so it can heat up and remelt again solving any cold or broken solder issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geezuzkhrist119 View Post
    lets say that i sent my 360 to microsoft. what do that do to fix the problem?
    It depends on what chipset you've got and what problem you had with your 360 initially. Depending on the issues (and if you've got a special box like a Halo 3/Resident Evil unit) they'll likely fix your actual unit. Generic Older Xenon units got a new heat sync and get sent back out. Ones with dead drives are given 'new' refurbs and are sent back out as well. I'm not sure what needs to be done with the 374 errors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaStu View Post
    It depends on what chipset you've got and what problem you had with your 360 initially. Depending on the issues (and if you've got a special box like a Halo 3/Resident Evil unit) they'll likely fix your actual unit. Generic Older Xenon units got a new heat sync and get sent back out. Ones with dead drives are given 'new' refurbs and are sent back out as well. I'm not sure what needs to be done with the 374 errors.
    the only reason im asking is cuz i opened mine and saw 3 heatsinks. all the pics i seen online only had 2 heatsinks. all the videos/tutorial on how to fix a 360 where using a console with 2 sinks. so does that make it harder to fix myself?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanMurf View Post
    I dont think that. I know what im talking about im sure I have surpassed you by the hundreds in xbox repairs but reflowing is pretty much explained by its own term. It is the process of reflowing extreme amounts of heat to the solder so it can heat up and remelt again solving any cold or broken solder issues.
    Well, anyone be under the impression that you think that.

    Reflow is just a fancy way of saying that they did the xclamp fix and let the system run till it overheats to remelt the solder so that it is positioned in the rite place on the chips and board.
    I didn't read all of your posts until now, but after reading that post and then skipping right to you asking saferkefka to explain the how the process of getting his machine reflowed I thought that you didn't know what reflow was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geezuzkhrist119 View Post
    the only reason im asking is cuz i opened mine and saw 3 heatsinks. all the pics i seen online only had 2 heatsinks. all the videos/tutorial on how to fix a 360 where using a console with 2 sinks. so does that make it harder to fix myself?
    same way

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    Quote Originally Posted by geezuzkhrist119 View Post
    the only reason im asking is cuz i opened mine and saw 3 heatsinks. all the pics i seen online only had 2 heatsinks. all the videos/tutorial on how to fix a 360 where using a console with 2 sinks. so does that make it harder to fix myself?
    Again, depending on whats wrong will depend on what they do to the system. The different chips will have different numbers of heatsinks on them. Now that you've opened it, MS won't touch it, so sending it in to them isn't an option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaStu View Post
    Now that you've opened it, MS won't touch it, so sending it in to them isn't an option.
    i thought the seal wasnt broken but i was wrong. it wasnt fully ripped off when whoever opened before me.
    i would rather shit on the motherboard than sent it to microsoft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaStu View Post
    Again, depending on whats wrong will depend on what they do to the system. The different chips will have different numbers of heatsinks on them. Now that you've opened it, MS won't touch it, so sending it in to them isn't an option.
    I always wondered...even if it's opened, what if you send it to them anyway but paying for the repair?

    Would they still say no if the customer is paying the fee asked?
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    Quote Originally Posted by megasdkirby View Post
    I always wondered...even if it's opened, what if you send it to them anyway but paying for the repair?

    Would they still say no if the customer is paying the fee asked?
    As far as I'm aware its part of the Terms of Use that you void the warranty if you open the Xbox (as it is with any of these systems) and if they find that the sticker has been damaged/removed that they will just return back the unit sent in and the money will be refunded with no work done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by geezuzkhrist119 View Post
    i thought the seal wasnt broken but i was wrong. it wasnt fully ripped off when whoever opened before me.
    i would rather shit on the motherboard than sent it to microsoft.
    Unfortunately, only one of those options will fix a RROD.

    I'd like to see the other on YouTube, however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PapaStu View Post
    As far as I'm aware its part of the Terms of Use that you void the warranty if you open the Xbox (as it is with any of these systems) and if they find that the sticker has been damaged/removed that they will just return back the unit sent in and the money will be refunded with no work done.
    There are ways around it though I have never used this method. You can buy stickers on ebay.

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    i got another 360 that needs fixing and i got no thermo paste.

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