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    We certainly appreciate the offers for help guys...the fact of the matter is, we've been doing this since 1999. We've had help from dozens (if not hundreds) of people in the past including a professional publicity firm. The problem is actually fairly simple. For the amount of space that CGE requires, we just don't generate enough revenue for the hotel that's hosting the event. What we really need is a "Plaza-like" hotel in the older part of Las Vegas with a little more space than what the Plaza has to offer. We've gone out there and looked ourselves and enlisted the help of the Las Vegas Convention Authority and haven't found the right place yet apparently. Each year we THINK we have found our new permanent home, but when all is said and done, there's always a problem and it generally stems from this hotel or that hotel attempting to take advantage of us in one way or another.

    What sets CGE apart from other local shows is our museum and the alumni. Our museum display is the most comprehensive display of videogame historical items ANYWHERE in the world. We have dozens of items that can't be seen anywhere else. We can't afford to move our collection out of Las Vegas again. The support we've gotten from the alumni over the years has been so strong due to the relationships we've forged with many of them but also because most of them actually enjoy hanging out in Vegas for a weekend. The show pretty much has to remain in Las Vegas.

    So if anyone knows of a place in Las Vegas that is near the strip and has 25,000+ square feet of convention space and is interested in filling about 400 hotel room nights for the weekend that will basically cover the cost of the convention space, by all means, please let us know.

    All that we require to put on the show is that the show be able to pay it's own bills. We will not "pay" to put on the show and, quite frankly, we don't really like the idea of asking people to "donate" money so we can do it either. We're happy to accept any corporate sponsorship however. If any of you know of a company that would be interested in sponsoring the show, please put us in touch with each other.

    Last but not least, please don't misunderstand me here. I'm not saying CGE is dead...it's not. We'll figure it out - we always do. It's just that for 2011, there isn't enough time and we don't currently have any concrete ideas as to where we could afford to go.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Kelly3 View Post
    We certainly appreciate the offers for help guys...the fact of the matter is, we've been doing this since 1999. We've had help from dozens (if not hundreds) of people in the past including a professional publicity firm. The problem is actually fairly simple. For the amount of space that CGE requires, we just don't generate enough revenue for the hotel that's hosting the event. What we really need is a "Plaza-like" hotel in the older part of Las Vegas with a little more space than what the Plaza has to offer. We've gone out there and looked ourselves and enlisted the help of the Las Vegas Convention Authority and haven't found the right place yet apparently. Each year we THINK we have found our new permanent home, but when all is said and done, there's always a problem and it generally stems from this hotel or that hotel attempting to take advantage of us in one way or another.

    What sets CGE apart from other local shows is our museum and the alumni. Our museum display is the most comprehensive display of videogame historical items ANYWHERE in the world. We have dozens of items that can't be seen anywhere else. We can't afford to move our collection out of Las Vegas again. The support we've gotten from the alumni over the years has been so strong due to the relationships we've forged with many of them but also because most of them actually enjoy hanging out in Vegas for a weekend. The show pretty much has to remain in Las Vegas.

    So if anyone knows of a place in Las Vegas that is near the strip and has 25,000+ square feet of convention space and is interested in filling about 400 hotel room nights for the weekend that will basically cover the cost of the convention space, by all means, please let us know.

    All that we require to put on the show is that the show be able to pay it's own bills. We will not "pay" to put on the show and, quite frankly, we don't really like the idea of asking people to "donate" money so we can do it either. We're happy to accept any corporate sponsorship however. If any of you know of a company that would be interested in sponsoring the show, please put us in touch with each other.

    Last but not least, please don't misunderstand me here. I'm not saying CGE is dead...it's not. We'll figure it out - we always do. It's just that for 2011, there isn't enough time and we don't currently have any concrete ideas as to where we could afford to go.


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    I totally understand, doing any show is not easy you don't make money on it, VGS has never made money we usually wind up in the hole in fact, I'm just glad people come to the show. at least I still have MGC and my VGS to attend.
    hope to see you return in the future though.

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    I don't know if this is a popular idea, but why not pair up with another convention? There seems to be tons of video game related conventions throughout the year (ie Penny Arcade Expo), perhaps it could be paired up?

    Though, I'll be honest, I will be unable to go to any convention if it is not the last weekend of July/first weekend of August.
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    You don't want to ask us for money, but if we donate it anyway, then it is just helping the cause. Besides, I am one of the people that brought that subject up, so if it starts happening, it is my fault, not yours.

    I am still kinda new to Vegas, but just because I feel like it, I will hit google and maybe make a few calls this weekend. The worst that can happen from it is finding out that there is nothing out there that you guys are looking for. I really only have one connection out here, so I will get ahold of him this weekend and see if he knows about anything

    I am not any kind of organizer, but I don't mind helping where I can

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    I was speaking with a friend about this, and he mentioned a great idea. Why isn't there a video game expo that's HUGE and JUST for video games? You used to have CES, and now E3, but those also had electronics mixed in. WHY isn't there a show that's tailored to JUST video games? Hell, the video game industry has outgrown the movie industry, or so I hear. I think the industry is large enough to hold it's own super huge expo every year.

    The problem with any sort of classic gaming expo, is that there is really only a handful of people that are even into this sort of thing. I'd say that we are probably 1 percent of the gamers out there. Why not start a super massive gaming show that is catered to both the modern AND classic gamers? If such a show existed then maybe Nintendo, Sony, Sega, Microsoft, etc etc would attend that show instead of just a general "electronics" show. With the support of the big companies it could easily thrive.

    This would of course be an advantage to us classic gamers as well. You could have classic gaming mixed in with the modern, or even have two sides of the show. Each side would generate interest for each other, and the sponsorships of the big boys would ensure that the show could go on for years to come.

    Another thing it would do is expose retro gaming to the modern gaming fans a bit more, which would only make our community larger!

    Maybe the focus needs to just change a bit. Maybe we as classic gamers cannot alienate ourselves from all the others.

    I honestly cannot believe that there is no general Modern/Classic or just a gaming expo catered to video gaming ONLY already in existance. This is a huge hole that needs to be filled and I think the potential for an awesome show is amazing if approached at the right angle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldskool View Post
    I was speaking with a friend about this, and he mentioned a great idea. Why isn't there a video game expo that's HUGE and JUST for video games? You used to have CES, and now E3, but those also had electronics mixed in. WHY isn't there a show that's tailored to JUST video games? Hell, the video game industry has outgrown the movie industry, or so I hear. I think the industry is large enough to hold it's own super huge expo every year.

    The problem with any sort of classic gaming expo, is that there is really only a handful of people that are even into this sort of thing. I'd say that we are probably 1 percent of the gamers out there. Why not start a super massive gaming show that is catered to both the modern AND classic gamers? If such a show existed then maybe Nintendo, Sony, Sega, Microsoft, etc etc would attend that show instead of just a general "electronics" show. With the support of the big companies it could easily thrive.

    This would of course be an advantage to us classic gamers as well. You could have classic gaming mixed in with the modern, or even have two sides of the show. Each side would generate interest for each other, and the sponsorships of the big boys would ensure that the show could go on for years to come.

    Another thing it would do is expose retro gaming to the modern gaming fans a bit more, which would only make our community larger!

    Maybe the focus needs to just change a bit. Maybe we as classic gamers cannot alienate ourselves from all the others.

    I honestly cannot believe that there is no general Modern/Classic or just a gaming expo catered to video gaming ONLY already in existance. This is a huge hole that needs to be filled and I think the potential for an awesome show is amazing if approached at the right angle.
    Actually, E3 is entirely devoted to video games, although it's technically not open to the general public. There is also PAX which is pretty huge, as well as several shows in Japan and Europe that are sortof like E3, but open to the public.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bojay1997 View Post
    Actually, E3 is entirely devoted to video games, although it's technically not open to the general public. There is also PAX which is pretty huge, as well as several shows in Japan and Europe that are sortof like E3, but open to the public.
    Oh well, I guess we are fucked then. I thought E3 was the Electronics Expo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldskool View Post
    Oh well, I guess we are fucked then. I thought E3 was the Electronics Expo.
    With so many retro games now becoming downloadable titles to your 360 or ps3 or whatever out, I think a healthy blend of classic and modern could work. You know, for a few years it would be small. It would basically be CGE, but there would be modern stuff in there as well.

    I think, for the younger generation, that they might like to see the presence of these classic games in relation to what they know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sean Kelly3 View Post
    We certainly appreciate the offers for help guys...the fact of the matter is, we've been doing this since 1999. We've had help from dozens (if not hundreds) of people in the past including a professional publicity firm. The problem is actually fairly simple. For the amount of space that CGE requires, we just don't generate enough revenue for the hotel that's hosting the event. What we really need is a "Plaza-like" hotel in the older part of Las Vegas with a little more space than what the Plaza has to offer. We've gone out there and looked ourselves and enlisted the help of the Las Vegas Convention Authority and haven't found the right place yet apparently. Each year we THINK we have found our new permanent home, but when all is said and done, there's always a problem and it generally stems from this hotel or that hotel attempting to take advantage of us in one way or another.

    What sets CGE apart from other local shows is our museum and the alumni. Our museum display is the most comprehensive display of videogame historical items ANYWHERE in the world. We have dozens of items that can't be seen anywhere else. We can't afford to move our collection out of Las Vegas again. The support we've gotten from the alumni over the years has been so strong due to the relationships we've forged with many of them but also because most of them actually enjoy hanging out in Vegas for a weekend. The show pretty much has to remain in Las Vegas.

    So if anyone knows of a place in Las Vegas that is near the strip and has 25,000+ square feet of convention space and is interested in filling about 400 hotel room nights for the weekend that will basically cover the cost of the convention space, by all means, please let us know.

    All that we require to put on the show is that the show be able to pay it's own bills. We will not "pay" to put on the show and, quite frankly, we don't really like the idea of asking people to "donate" money so we can do it either. We're happy to accept any corporate sponsorship however. If any of you know of a company that would be interested in sponsoring the show, please put us in touch with each other.

    Last but not least, please don't misunderstand me here. I'm not saying CGE is dead...it's not. We'll figure it out - we always do. It's just that for 2011, there isn't enough time and we don't currently have any concrete ideas as to where we could afford to go.


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    What about some place off the strip like one of the Coast or Station Casinos? Have you checked with them?

    Coast Casinos - Suncoast, Gold Coast. The Orleans
    http://www.coastcasinos.com/?cmpid=ppc_ggl_cas_ccc_coast+casinos&s_kwcid=TC|17 711|coast%20casinos||S|b|7099853403

    Station Casinos - Palace Station, etc
    http://www.stationcasinos.com/

    Additionally, if money is a problem, I'd think increasing the entrance fee
    would be acceptable.

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    I have thought about the Palace Station myself. It's still very close to the strip (although would have to take a quick cab to the strip), and it's a more budget minded Casino/Hotel. It's really geared a bit more for the locals.

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    Have you guys considered not having it at a hotel? If not the convention center, perhaps a similar sort of space.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j_factor View Post
    Have you guys considered not having it at a hotel? If not the convention center, perhaps a similar sort of space.
    I think the reason they have it in the hotel is because they get the space for free/cheap if they fill the rooms. Not having it at a hotel would just raise the cost, which is always the bottom line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bojay1997 View Post
    Actually, E3 is entirely devoted to video games, although it's technically not open to the general public. There is also PAX which is pretty huge, as well as several shows in Japan and Europe that are sortof like E3, but open to the public.
    And the CGE guys actually had an exhibit at E3 twice.... Before E3 'ended' for a couple of years, they had a vintage gaming display in one of the areas. All the old consoles hooked up and playable, I displayed a bunch of handhelds the second year, even had the old couch and TV setup... It was pretty cool.

    Then they 'canceled' E3 (turned into a meeting-only event) which killed that. They've brought E3 back again to what it used to be... But as mentioned, E3 isn't technically a public event anyway. Was cool though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldskool View Post
    I have thought about the Palace Station myself. It's still very close to the strip (although would have to take a quick cab to the strip), and it's a more budget minded Casino/Hotel. It's really geared a bit more for the locals.
    Something like that would be a good call (plus I live pretty damn close to it, which is a bonus for me)

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    Cool The Orleans

    My hubby and I recently went to CES. We always stay at the Orleans because they give us free rooms during CES. Why don't you check out The Orleans for the Expo? Yes, they are off the strip but a very nice place and have nice banquet rooms to host?


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