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    Default sealed 2600 Asterix IS NTSC!! - Look, NEW INFO!!

    I recently got ahold of a sealed Asterix for the 2600 from Steve Woita himself. The box appears to be PAL with the foreign writing on the back, but on the top flap there's an N sticker underneath the shrinkwrap. I've heard that Asterix was released in PAL format only, so what's the deal with the N sticker? Canadian or Japanese release maybe?

    Of course, I could always crack it open and pop it in, but since it's sealed I'd rather not if I can avoid it.

    Edit: I moved this to the Collecting forum and changed the title because it appeared that nobody was looking.

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    Like this :

    http://www.atariage.com/box_page.htm...areLabelID=890

    This it's the PAL version.

    The "N" can make to think it's a NTSC game. I dont know why they put that.
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    This game is never released as NTSC version (only a Prototype). So it can only be PAL.

    Or maybe this is the first NTSC game, which was found?
    Then it must the UR. But I don't think, that a complete NTSC version exist.

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    Arrgh, I'm so tempted to open this to see what it really is...

    Does anyone have a PAL box with an N sticker that ended up being a PAL game?

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    Where is the N sticker? I own a complete Asterix, but there is no N sticker on the Box. Mine is PAL.

    But as I say, I have never heard from a NTSC Asterix, only 1 Prototype. So it can't be NTSC.

    But when you get it from Steve Woita, who knows. Maybe he has make a NTSC version from this game with lable. Then he has used a PAL Box, because this game was only released as PAL version, and then he putt the N sticker for NTSC on the Box.

    But then its like a Prototype. Only one complete NTSC Asterix exist then.

    Maybe you can ask Steve Woita, what format it is (NTSC or PAL). Maybe he knows it. And why he there is a N sticker on the Box. :/

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    Having (obviously) examined the box, the N sticker is under the shrinkwrap, actually on the box lid itself. So I'm as baffled as many other people too...

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    HOLY CRAP!!!!!

    I just opened it and popped it in, and the screen is perfectly fine. I've tried playing PAL games on my tv before and each time I got the standard rolling screen, but NOTHING IS HAPPENING. My tv screen is absolutely normal and I'm playing it with no problems. It's also an old tv (at least twelve years old) so shit, I think this IS an NTSC game!!!

    (Least I hope so now so I don't sound like an idiot... :P )

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    If it is.. what a find! Time to celebrate!

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    Hmmm... I have hear in the past, that some PAL games exist, which will work on NTSC TV. The latere releases games. Or maybe its then PAL-M format, which will maybe work too on NTSC TVs.

    What has this Asterix for a Lable? There exist 2 differents. Silver & Silver Metallic. The only Silver is the later released version and has 2 years on the lable 1983 & 1985. The Silver Metallic lable has only 1983 on the lable and on the endlable is a P.

    But I have no idea. Maybe its a NTSC Asterix. Then congratulation. Its the only one, which exist (accept the Prototype).

    But maybe you can only find it out, when you dump this game, and try it on emulator, what this will tell you (about the color and the scanlines). :/

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    Hmmm, mine looks like this...

    http://www.atariage.com/cart_page.ht...temTypeID=CART

    However, instead of "1985 Atari Corp" it says "1983 Atari, Inc." There is no P on the end label, just like it's shown in the pic.

    I'll try to post some pics of it before I go to work tonight, or if not, when I get home.

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    "But I have no idea. Maybe its a NTSC Asterix. Then congratulation. Its the only one, which exist (accept the Prototype). "

    Why would you say it's the only one? Before this discovery you would've said there were none. You have no basis for saying this is the only as if it's some foregone conclusion.

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    Look it maybe like this, with the endlable from the Silver Asterix?

    This here is the Silver Metallic Lable. It has only 1983 on the Lable.


    The other, from AtariAge is the Silver Lable (Silver grey).

    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots
    "But I have no idea. Maybe its a NTSC Asterix. Then congratulation. Its the only one, which exist (accept the Prototype). "

    Why would you say it's the only one? Before this discovery you would've said there were none. You have no basis for saying this is the only as if it's some foregone conclusion.
    I collect since years Atari 2600 games, and I am often on AtariAge. I have never hear from an NTSC Asterix. On on AtariAge is noone listed. When there exist more, why noone knows it?
    It is as PAL only release known, and noone ever has found a NTSC copy (only the Prototype).
    You can ask on AtariAge. Noone ever see it in NTSC, I am 99,9% sure.

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    The only way to tell for sure would be to dump the binary and anaylze the code. If this is NTSC, you probably have the only known copy in existence.

    Perhaps there was a limited pressing ( you had said it is NIB) that never saw the light of day that is still sitting in a warehouse somewhere.

    Did the shrinkwrap look like it was on since the cart was manufactured, or was it loose and flimsy? It may have been reshrinked with someone putting the N on at a later date.

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    Yeah, I'm just saying, it's stupid to say "oh, only one exists" just because you've only HEARD of one example. Before today you were saying "no NTSC version exists" and that's apparently been proven false. Why not just say "only one NTSC version is known to exist" and avoid the hyperbole?

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    Yep, that's what the front looks like. And the end label looks exactly like the one in the AtariAge link.

    Don't know if it'll help any, but there appears to be the code "47 3 R" stamped into the end label itself.

    So is it possible that a silver metallic label exists without the "P" on the end? (Other than mine, of course ) I don't want to get TOO excited, y'know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sku_u
    Did the shrinkwrap look like it was on since the cart was manufactured, or was it loose and flimsy? It may have been reshrinked with someone putting the N on at a later date.
    The shrinkwrap is on nice and tight, and also had a hang tag attached as well. The "line" runs right down the middle of the back. I just removed the top of the wrap in order to open the box up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queen of the Felines
    So is it possible that a silver metallic label exists without the "P" on the end? (Other than mine, of course ) I don't want to get TOO excited, y'know.

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    Don't know, maybe. But I have never see one, I think. All my Silver Metallic versions (which I have owned in the past) have the P on the endlable. And my silver grey cart has no P on the endlable.

    So maybe it was mixed by Steve Woita, as he do with the Box, that he used a PAL Box, because there exist no NTSC Box? And only a guess, but maybe he has found only the silver metallic lable, and will no use the endlable with the P, because it stand for PAL. So he has used the other released endlable.

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    Dunno. I just e-mailed him and asked him for more info (and to peek his head in here) so hopefully we'll get to the bottom of this soon.

    I really, really can't see Steve swapping carts and then re-wrapping it up himself though. I mean, where would he get the hangtag from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Queen of the Felines

    I really, really can't see Steve swapping carts and then re-wrapping it up himself though. I mean, where would he get the hangtag from?

    Kristine
    If it still had the hangtag and the shrinkwrap was down the middle, chances are very slim that it was reshrinked.

    Whether it's PAL or NTSC, having ASTERIX CIB is a great grab either way.

    One other bench test you could try is to compare the top and bottom of the playfield to the top and bottom of the playfield on a few games you own that you know are NTSC (Turmoil being the best example given the similarity of the playfields). If the Asterix playfield is stretched out past the visible TV screen more than the Turmoil cart, chances are it is PAL and you lucked out in having a PAL game that is playable on your NTSC TV.

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