is cge 2k4 moving?
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is cge 2k4 moving?
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OK, let me set the record straight. Las Vegas is a great place for a small show but if any of you have been to PhillyClassic or even the brand new Austin show, you've seen the benefit of having an event in a populated area. Please read on.
Las Vegas is an island. Like it or not, the only people that go to CGE are the ones who specifically travel out of their way to get there. No people driving by saying "ooh! Look what's going on here this weekend!", no families picking up the paper and saying "now this looks like something fun to do this weekend". And thus, we have "maxed out" in Vegas.
The other very strong consideration that I can impart to you is that most of our guest alumni come from the west coast. Not Las Vegas. To get to Las Vegas, most of them have to set time aside, take a vacation and go. Whereas when we visited Game Developer Conference last year, it was a breeze getting the same number of alumni to a simple after-dinner party on a Friday night. These folks are a major impetus to the show and though they've been very good about setting time aside, it's time we gave a little something back and moved to an area where they could simply block out a weekend instead of making travel plans and using vacation days.
That said, I talked to a number of vendors and alumni this past weekend after we announced this thought at the dinner on Friday, and everyone - even Katz, Kunkel and Worley, who live right IN Las Vegas - thought this was the only way to grow. Classic Gaming Expo should be a 5,000 attendee show, and with a bigger floor and many more vendors, all of the things we're discussing here can actually happen. In the words of Arnie Katz "the ONLY way you can expand the scope of your work is to make it more accessible".
I'm NOT saying it's definitely going to happen, but we really WANT to move it. Please support this decision - six years in Las Vegas has taught us a lot, and it's simply time to move on!
If it won't be in Vegas then do you have any ideas where it will be?
they are thinking about moving it to california.
AVC/JCU does support your decision on moving the show as long it's good for the show.
We support any gaming event and we do put listings of current shows in our fanzine as long we get it before the show.
Dan Iacovelli
AVC/JCU chairperson
Ideally, the "bay area". Not necessarily San Francisco but we're scouting out San Jose (where Game Developer's Conference is held) and surrounding areas. We've already got a bunch of areas and even specific locales suggested by our show's guest speakers.Originally Posted by Six Switch
It's really way too early for details but since this was announced at the Friday night honorary banquet before the Expo it's only fair we share our thoughts with everyone.
Feedback, as always, is appreciated
I would say move it to Green Bay in the newly renovated Lambeau Field.Ideally, the "bay area". Not necessarily San Francisco but we're scouting out San Jose (where Game Developer's Conference is held) and surrounding areas. We've already got a bunch of areas and even specific locales suggested by our show's guest speakers.
It's really way too early for details but since this was announced at the Friday night honorary banquet before the Expo it's only fair we share our thoughts with everyone.
Feedback, as always, is appreciated:P
Danny
As sad as I would be to lose my only excuse to go to Vegas every year, I fully support anything that helps CGE grow. Plus my 24 hour drive would be cut to a mere 15 hours. What about LA?
What about Chicago? C'mon, you can crash on my futon!
Kristine
"I am way too lesbian for that shit."
I like vegas but would go to where ever CGE is held. The show
has been that much fun in the two years I've gone!
Yup, I'm up for anywhere... the show was amazing... I'd probably make a trip overseas if that's where the show was :P . DC would be nice though, but I've never been to the west coast, so a vacation there would be cool with me.
DogP
Virtual Boy Lives @ Project: VB
I second the motion for Green Bay.
You can all stay at my house and I will set up TV's and cots in the garage.
I'm all about it moving to the Bay Area... my future home after I graduate college and have to scrounge around in this economy to find a tech job. I've wanted to go to the Bay Area since I was a little tyke.
Anyhow -- I think anywhere it'll be held where it can grow is great. The furtherst I've ever been from Central Pennsylvania is a high school bus trip to Florida. I've never flown before or been that far west but it was definately a learning experience that anyone who's been stuck in a state should do.
Wherever CGE goes it'll be better than the last I think.
All I ask in the whole moving-CGE debate is that a decision is made, dates set and locations decided as early as is practically possible. I've a feeling hitting the Bay Area from where I am, and this may go for others as well, will require a little bit more advanced trip planning/booking.
It sucks living out in what we rocket scientists refer to clinically as the STICKS.
how abot moving it to canada. I would vote for Vancouver
Awsome. I love Las Vegas and all but, It's so far from me. Im happy about this. Hopefully its within 3 hours of my house. then I could drive there (easier to get my items to and from). Have it on the island me and John would enjoy that.
Somebody make me a "CGE 2k7 Attendee banner" so I don't have to use this lame text
I had to buy an extra suitcase from one of the sideshops at Vegas just to cart all my crap home with me. :/
What about Boston, then I could show you the old Atari facilities in Cambridge
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Well.... I'm in San Jose and that would be nice, but I still don't really
understand the reasoning. Just a drive from San Francisco down to
San Jose is 45 minutes when there's no traffic, while getting to Vegas
is about 2.5 hours with airport time.
There's a lot of programmers in Ca, but is there really enough in one
area to make it worthwhile?
More expensive food, less attractions for making the significant other
happy, no real gambling.
This may be a taboo subject, but has anyone considered how the
Austin Gaming Convention hurt attendance? It was two weeks before,
three states over, and a lot of the 1000+ people who attended have
limits with either their budget, time off, or family.
John
www94.pair.com/jsoper
The problem is that it takes everyone 2.5 hours or more to get to Vegas, and you're adding in the plane which is an additional cost for those on the west coast that we'd avoid. Moving the show into a populated area will allow more local traffic.
At least double as many. As I stated above, we were able to get as many alumni to an impromptu after-hours event as we were able to drag out to Vegas over the course of a whole year.There's a lot of programmers in Ca, but is there really enough in one
area to make it worthwhile?
If the entire bay area rolls their carpets in with no night life at all, then we'll create the night life. Wherever we go, we'll be sure to create an after-show event worth sticking around for.More expensive food, less attractions for making the significant other
happy, no real gambling.
It's not taboo, we advertised the Austin Gaming Expo pretty heavily, and will do so again next year! It may have cut into CGE attendance but the attendance grew this year regardless and has remained fairly constant at 1200-1400 over the past 3 years. This is the very reason why we feel the need to move. We've "maxed out".This may be a taboo subject, but has anyone considered how the
Austin Gaming Convention hurt attendance? It was two weeks before,
three states over, and a lot of the 1000+ people who attended have
limits with either their budget, time off, or family.
Thanks for your input, John!
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