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    Default So how many Game Systems are there?

    I found a list somewhere that says not counting clones, different versions of same machines, etc, that there are 69 unique game systems. Here is the list:

    1292 series (ex// Hanimex 1392)
    Amiga CD32
    Amiga CDtv
    Amstrad GX4000
    APF MP-1000
    Atari 2600
    Atari 5200
    Atari 7800
    Atari Jaguar
    Atari Jaguar CD
    Atari XE GS
    Bally Astrocade
    Bandai Playdia
    Bandai/@World/AtMark/Apple Pippin
    Bandai TV-Jack 8000
    Capcom CPS Changer
    Casio Loopy
    Casio PV-1000
    Coleco Telstar Arcade
    ColecoVision
    Commodore 64 GS
    Daewoo Zemmix
    Emerson Arcadia 2001
    Entex Adventurevision
    Epoch CassetteVision
    Epoch Super CassetteVision
    FairChild Channel F
    FM Townes Marty
    Gekken TV Boy
    Hanimex 7900 and equivilent
    Intertron VC4000
    Magnavox Odyssey2
    Mattel Intellivision
    Memorex VIS
    Microsoft XBOX
    NEC PC-FX
    NEC SuperGrafx
    NEC Turbo Duo
    NEC Turbo Grafx 16
    NEC Turbo Grafx CD
    Neo Geo AES
    Neo Geo CD
    Nintendo (NES)
    Famicom Disk System/Twin (for japanese version of NES)
    Nintendo 64
    Nintendo 64DD
    Nintendo GameCube
    Super Nintendo
    Nintendo Virtual Boy
    NUON
    Panasonic 3DO
    Philips/Magnavox CD-I
    Pioneer LaserActive
    RCA Studio II
    Sega 32x
    Sega CD
    Sega Genesis
    Sega Master System
    Sega Dreamcast
    Sega Saturn
    Sega SG-1000
    Sony Playstation
    Sony Playstation2
    Tomy Pyu-Ta (Tutor) Jr.
    Vectrex
    ViewMaster InteractiveVision
    Vtech Creativision

    So, is that everything? And why would a system like the Original Odyssey not count? What ya think guys?


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    Why no portables? or are you just focusing on consoles?

    Would Neo Geo CDZ count or no?

    Goldstar 3DO to be added as well

    Sega Mega Jet (Portable Sega MegaDrive)

    Sega CDX

    JVC X-Eye

    Sega Nomad <-- not just a portable, but a full blown Genesis as well

    And the Texas Instructment 99/TI-99

    also, MSX and Sharp X68000

    Turbo Express <--- portable NEC that played HuCards as well
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    Hmm, good point on the portables...I didnt make the list, but I would think they count. They were probably talking about non-portable units I guess.

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    its a list, a pretty good one but why fence it in? so that list counts the tommy tutor but not the vic-20 or the TI99? its really hard to draw the line between computer and game system, esp. when you're talking about stuff in the UK and Australia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super_Ghouls_'N'_Ghosts

    And the Texas Instructment 99/TI-99

    also, MSX and Sharp X68000
    They're all computers rather than consoles, and if you're counting computers then there's a whole lot more besides that. Also, all the others you mention are variants of already listed systems rather than a different platform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by christianscott27
    its really hard to draw the line between computer and game system, esp. when you're talking about stuff in the UK and Australia.
    Not too sure what you mean there - as far as I can tell there's almost always a pretty clear divide between computers & consoles. What's on the borderline?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anagrama
    What's on the borderline?
    Well I would have to say that the Commodore 64 and the Atari XE computers are both on the borderline, as thier parent companies both made console only versions as well as the more full-fledged computer versions.

    Some would also say the Odyssey 2 is a borderline, because of its built-in keyboard [although the extreme dearth of any computer software for it makes the argument admittedly tenuous]

    Basically the argument can be made for any computer that hooks up to a TV and uses carts for games to be a game system. I know thats exactly how I use my Commodore 64.
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    Quote Originally Posted by briguy578
    Quote Originally Posted by anagrama
    What's on the borderline?
    Well I would have to say that the Commodore 64 and the Atari XE computers are both on the borderline, as thier parent companies both made console only versions as well as the more full-fledged computer versions.
    Sure, they can be used as games systems, but it's pretty evident (to me, anyway) that they are definitely computers as opposed to consoles. There's a bunch of other similar systems that were also released in consolised form or vice-versa - aswell - the Amiga 1200/CD32, Amstrad CPC464/GX4000, Intellivision/Adam, Sega SG1000/SC3000 etc.

    At the end of the day, it's always down to a matter of personal perception - I believe the original list in this thread is from candude's list of consoles, which was compiled according to a very rigid definition of what does & doesn't classify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anagrama
    was compiled according to a very rigid definition of what does & doesn't classify.
    If so then I take issue withthe Virtual Boy being on there.. It is technically a portable...
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    Quote Originally Posted by anagrama
    Quote Originally Posted by Super_Ghouls_'N'_Ghosts

    And the Texas Instructment 99/TI-99

    also, MSX and Sharp X68000
    They're all computers rather than consoles, and if you're counting computers then there's a whole lot more besides that. Also, all the others you mention are variants of already listed systems rather than a different platform.
    PC-FX?

    Amiga CD32, Atari XE GS, Commdore 64 GS?

    Aren't those all computers as well?

    I'll list the variants, because he put the add-ons for the Sega Genesis as well, so why not?
    These cartridges are dirty as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!

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    I say incomplete as woe. The viewmaster intertactive vision is there, so why no Action Max, the 1292 systems are there, so why to Telstar Arcade, and Odyssey? Computer wise, why no Aquarius, Spectravideo, Commodore Plus/4, TRS 80, Dragon 32, PC Jr? I'll think of more and then post them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Super_Ghouls_'N'_Ghosts
    PC-FX?

    Amiga CD32, Atari XE GS, Commdore 64 GS?

    Aren't those all computers as well?

    I'll list the variants, because he put the add-ons for the Sega Genesis as well, so why not?
    Those are all most certainly consoles. The PC-FX NEVER was a computer in any way, shape, or form, no more than the PC-Engine was.

    BTW this list is a pile of garbage. Super A'Can, anybody? Oh yeah, maybe it's because we're too good to list those cheap Taiwanese systems, even though it's a completely original system with legally produced/licensed titles x_x

    That's just in addition to everything VintageGameCrazy wrote.

    What the hell is the N64 DD doing on that list if we aren't counting variations on the same theme? It has no business being on there whatsoever.

    Bullshit @ that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Oscuro
    Quote Originally Posted by Super_Ghouls_'N'_Ghosts
    PC-FX?

    Amiga CD32, Atari XE GS, Commdore 64 GS?

    Aren't those all computers as well?

    I'll list the variants, because he put the add-ons for the Sega Genesis as well, so why not?
    Those are all most certainly consoles. The PC-FX NEVER was a computer in any way, shape, or form, no more than the PC-Engine was.

    BTW this list is a pile of garbage. Super A'Can, anybody? Oh yeah, maybe it's because we're too good to list those cheap Taiwanese systems, even though it's a completely original system with legally produced/licensed titles x_x

    That's just in addition to everything VintageGameCrazy wrote.

    What the hell is the N64 DD doing on that list if we aren't counting variations on the same theme? It has no business being on there whatsoever.

    Bullshit @ that.
    or the Famicom Disk Drive/Famicom Twin for that matter now that you mention it

    Thanks for clearing up about the PC-FX, I've only seen one, so I wasn't too sure
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    FDS should count if N64 DD does, but according to the rules it seems neither should as they're just accessories.

    Famicom Twin is just a variation...nothing special (in terms of the list that is). Should be lumped in there with FC/FDS.

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    At the end of the day, no-one is going to be able to come up with a definitive list that everyone will agree on - there's just too many exceptions to any rule you can think of, and oddball systems that don't really fir in anywhere.

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    Key is to be INclusive rather than EXclusive, I'd say. Keeps some of the resentment down :)

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    Take it up with candude then, not me (assuming that this is based on his list?).

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    Why would I be angry at you about it? I'm just saying what I think is a reasonable goal for making lists.

    This list most certainly is NOT Can Dude's, seeing how the Super A'Can isn't on there. Dead giveaway.

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    " Intellivision/Adam"

    They're not related in any way. If you mean Colecovision and Adam, a Colecovision is a game system, and a ADAM is a computer. The Colecovision can be made into a game system with the ADAM attachment however.

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    At least there's no dispute over the craploads of pong systems that surfaced

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leo_Ames
    " Intellivision/Adam"

    They're not related in any way. If you mean Colecovision and Adam, a Colecovision is a game system, and a ADAM is a computer. The Colecovision can be made into a game system with the ADAM attachment however.
    Duh. Quite right, my bad I was just referring to different computer/console equivalents.

    And sorry Ed, not sure what I was getting at there.

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    I have those moments, and often, so no troubles there :)

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    What is a N64DD?
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    After excluding stand alone computers, clones, variations, and handhelds, and allowing add ons (Sega CD, N64DD, etc.) and "computer consoles" (Amiga CD32, FM Towns Marty, Daewoo Zemmix, etc.) I came up with this list.

    Amiga CD32
    Amiga CDTV
    Amstrad GX4000
    APF MP-1000
    Atari 2600
    Atari 5200
    Atari 7800
    Atari XEGS
    Atari Jaguar
    Atari Jaguar CD
    Bally Astrocade
    Bandai TV Jack-5000
    Bandai TV Jack-8000
    Bandai Pippin
    Bandai Playdia
    Casio Loopy
    Casio PV-1000
    Coleco Colecovision
    Commodore 64GS
    Capcom CPS Changer
    Daewoo Zemmix
    Emerson Arcadia 2001
    Entex Adventure Vision
    Epoch Cassettevision
    Epoch Super Cassettevision
    Fairchild Channel F
    Fairchild Channel F2
    FM Towns Marty
    Funtech Super A’Can
    Gakken Compactvision TV Boy
    GCE Vectrex
    HGS Electronic Telesports (PC-50X Systems)
    Interton VC-4000 (1292 Systems)
    Mattel Intellivision
    Magnavox Odyssey
    Magnavox Odyssey2/Videopac
    Memorex VIS
    Microsoft XBOX
    NEC PC Engine/Turbo Grafx 16
    NEC PC Engine CD/Turbo CD
    NEC PC Engine Duo/Turbo Duo
    NEC PC Engine Super Grafx
    NEC PC-FX
    Nintendo Famicom/NES
    Nintendo Famicom Disk system
    Nintendo Super Famicom/Super Nintendo
    Nintendo VirtualBoy
    Nintendo 64
    Nintendo 64DD
    Nintendo GameCube
    NUON
    Panasonic 3DO
    Phillips Tele-Spiel ES-2201
    Phillips Magnavox CD-i
    RCA Studio II
    RDI Halcyon
    Sega SG-1000
    Sega Mark III/Master System
    Sega MegaDrive/Genesis
    Sega MegaCD/CD
    Sega Mega 32X/32X
    Sega Saturn
    Sega Dreamcast
    SNK Neo Geo
    SNK Neo Geo CD
    Sony Playstation
    Sony Playstation 2
    Soundic Soundicvision SD-200 (SD-20XX Systems)
    ViewMaster InteractiVision
    Vtech Creativision
    Vtech Socrates
    Worlds of Wonder Action Max

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    Quote Originally Posted by nesgamer
    What is a N64DD?
    It's not green.

    It's somewhat like an Iomega ZIP disc drive for your N64, far as I can tell. Bigger games of course. Load times, though. Probably not bad ones though.

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