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    Default Sonic 2 dominates the Genesis top 25 Power Rankings!

    Sega Genesis U.S. carts Power Rankings 2005


    1. Sonic 2
    2. Gunstar Heroes
    3. Sonic 3 (usually with Knuckles)
    4. Streets of Rage 2
    5. Phantasy Star 2
    6. Herzog Zwei
    7. Sonic the Hedgehog
    8. Phantasy Star 4
    9. Rocket Knight Adventures
    10. Shining Force 2
    11. Toe Jam & Earl
    12. Shining Force
    13. Sonic & Knuckles
    14. Gaiares
    15. Revenge of Shinobi
    16. M.U.S.H.A.
    17. Thunderforce III
    18. Earthworm Jim
    19. Dr. Robotniks Mean Bean Machine
    20. Golden Axe
    21. Pirates! Gold
    22. Ghouls & Ghosts
    23. Truxton
    24. Castle of Illusion starring Mickey Mouse
    25. Ecco the Dolphin



    Wow, pretty damn good list if you ask me. Unfortunately, 7 of my top 15 games didn't make it. But still, all in all, a very nice list of the best Genny games. Sonic 2 absolutely dominated the field, getting ranked on every list submitted but two of them. What the 'eck were those guys smoking! But Sonic 2 was ranked on 15 of the 17 lists, and it was ranked No. 1 on four of the lists. No other game was ranked No.1 more than once. Gunstar Heroes was the next big game. It appeared on 12 of the 17 lists, it got ranked No. 1 once, and it appeared in the top 5, 5 times. The closest game to that was Sonic 3, but Sonic 3 wasn't ranked No.1 on anybodies list.


    Ok, now for the people that participated in this ranking, and also for new people if they wish to do so. I think what we should do is do the next 25 games. That way, we have a really nice top 50 Genesis Power Ranking.

    The way it works, is that all of the games listed above are eliminated from being ranked. Those 25 games have already locked down those positions and they are secure in the top 25. So completely ignore those games, and rank the best games that you can possibly rank, without using any of those 25 games in your list.


    This is actually the more interesting part of the power rankings, because all of the most obvious games and the most popular, are in the list above, so the next 25 games becomes much more interesting.

    For the people that 17 people that submitted lists already, I can simply remove the above games from your list, and keep the other games in numerical order. I'll go through everybodies lists and then I'll let you know how many more games I need from you to complete your list. Some people have lists that are very much filled with those 25 games, and other people have lists that don't have many of those games above.

    Also, new people are welcome to give me a top 25 list, just don't rank any of the games above. The more lists that I get, the more accurate and a better power ranking we end up with.



    IF YOU ARE GOING TO SEND ME A LIST SEND IT TO MY EMAIL


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    Seems like a fair and accurate list! Not a huge Genny fan, but a lot of the games on the list are definate must plays for anyone.

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    I'm not exactly sure how the power rankings were compiled (did everyone just name their top 10,25,50, or X amount of genny games?) But where the F is Strider?

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    Quote Originally Posted by drewbrim
    I'm not exactly sure how the power rankings were compiled (did everyone just name their top 10,25,50, or X amount of genny games?) But where the F is Strider?


    17 people submitted Top 25 rankings for U.S. Genny games. Based on the way the games were ranked, we ended up with this list. A ton of great games didn't end up making the cut. Contra Hard Corps. and Streets of Rage (the original) were the two closest games to missing the cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drewbrim
    I'm not exactly sure how the power rankings were compiled (did everyone just name their top 10,25,50, or X amount of genny games?) But where the F is Strider?
    Top 25. And you'd know had you sent one in...

    Great to see the results -- but where the heck is Comix Zone? I'm amazed Herzog Zwei did so well, and that Rocket Knight Adventures didn't place higher than ninth...

    Too bad my beloved Granada didn't make the cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitri
    Quote Originally Posted by drewbrim
    I'm not exactly sure how the power rankings were compiled (did everyone just name their top 10,25,50, or X amount of genny games?) But where the F is Strider?
    Top 25. And you'd know had you sent one in...
    I didn't see the original post to send one in. I'm not actually upset or anything. Truth be told I always find these types of lists very interesting. Strider is my favorite game for the genny though, but I'm a sucker for a well made arcade port.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimitri
    Quote Originally Posted by drewbrim
    I'm not exactly sure how the power rankings were compiled (did everyone just name their top 10,25,50, or X amount of genny games?) But where the F is Strider?
    Top 25. And you'd know had you sent one in...

    Great to see the results -- but where the heck is Comix Zone? I'm amazed Herzog Zwei did so well, and that Rocket Knight Adventures didn't place higher than ninth...

    Too bad my beloved Granada didn't make the cut.





    The best thing about finally seeing the list, is all the arguments over what did and didn't get ranked. Comix Zone did appear on 4 of the 17 lists, but not very high up those lists.

    As for Granada, well, it only got ranked once! Of course we know who's list that was on.

    Interesting note: I recently bought Granada at GameCrazy for $1.99 loose cart, after seeing you rank the game on your list. It is a pretty cool game.

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    Default Re: Genesis Power Rankings are IN!!!! Check it out!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony1
    Also, new people are welcome to give me a top 25 list, just don't rank any of the games above. The more lists that I get, the more accurate and a better power ranking we end up with.
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    26. Strider
    27. Strider
    28. Strider
    29. Strider Returns

    Ha Ha, I'm pm you my list this weekend

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    The game that shocked me most was Golden Axe. Personally, not to piss anybody off, but I consider that game to be quite mediocre at best. I know that it was a super early Genesis game, and that for people that first got a Genesis, they were amazed to be playing Golden Axe at home, and for it to be pretty close to the Arcade, but I really think this is game that made the list more because of it's nostalgia factor that anything. Of course, I can say that about a number of games.

    But I'm kinda amazed that if people were going to go with the nostalgia factor in such a big way that altered beast didn't do better, or Strider. Strider got lots of publicity and hype back in the day because it was the first 8 meg cart, and it was one of the first Genesis games to have a huge PR presence behind it. Again, a good game, a solid game, but probably is going to be ranked high on the next list more to it's reputation as a big Genny game that purely based on quality.

    Of course, everybody has their own reasons for ranking games where they rank them. I ranked John Madden Football '93 as my No. 1 game overall, but it only appeared on one other list besides mine. To this day, I still feel that the Genesis version of John Madden Football '93 is the best pure game of video game football out there. The game just played so good, and had such balance to it, between the offense and defense. But if you hate sports games, then why the hell would you rank Madden 93?

    So everybody has their certain game that they hold close to their heart for some reason, but sometimes it can be a very unpopular choice to other folks.


    I had 14 games on my top 25 list that didn't make the cut, so I'm well on my way to already finishing my next 25 game list.

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    Damn I forgot to put strider on my list. Im surprised that two of my top faves, Buck Rogers and Starflight, failed to make the cut.

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    Damn I forgot to put strider on my list. Im surprised that two of my top faves, Buck Rogers and Starflight, failed to make the cut.

    Chris

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    Default Re: Genesis Power Rankings are IN!!!! Check it out!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by drewbrim
    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony1
    Also, new people are welcome to give me a top 25 list, just don't rank any of the games above. The more lists that I get, the more accurate and a better power ranking we end up with.
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    26. Strider
    27. Strider
    28. Strider
    29. Strider Returns

    Ha Ha, I'm pm you my list this weekend


    Actually do me a favor and email me the list at tapdatazz1@yahoo.com


    Otherwise my Inbox will be overflowing.

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    17 DP members submitted lists. Here are the lists, with the games that made the Top 25 being removed from their lists.

    Now, I'm going to count the games that remain, in that particular numerical order, unless you want to change your Top 25 ranking. You can have your top 25 ranking any way that you want, you just can't include games that made the actual final version of the Top 25. The new top 25 list, is for spots 26 to 50.

    So, if you want to change your order and put different games in different spots let me know


    DigitalSpace (need another 9 games)

    2 - OutRun
    3 - Alisia Dragoon
    5 - Virtua Racing
    6 - Championship Pro-AM
    11 - Zombies Ate My Neighbors
    13 - NBA Jam
    14 - X-Men
    15 - Vectorman
    16 - Toe Jam & Earl 2: Panic On Funkotron
    17 - Dynamite Headdy
    18 - Mutant League Football
    19 - Mutant League Hockey
    21 - Cool Spot
    22 - Altered Beast
    23 - Virtual Pinball
    25 - Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Hyperstone Heist


    jslithy (need 16 more games)

    6. Gain Ground
    10. Lightening Force
    14. Castlevania -- Bloodlines
    15. Star Control
    18. Ys 3: Wanderers from Ys
    19. Shinobi 3
    20. Shadowrun
    22. Hellfire
    24. Shining in the Darkness


    GoodWillHunter (need 8 more games)

    1.Dune: Battle for Arrakis
    2.Zero Tolerance
    3.Robocop vs. Terminator
    4.Super Smash TV
    9.Warriors of the Eternal Sun
    10.Dragon’s Fury
    12.Master of Monsters
    13.Flashback
    14.Viewpoint
    15.Haunting
    16.Virtual Pinball
    17.Comix Zone
    19.Gauntlet 4
    21.Raiden Trad
    22.Road Rash 3
    24.Toy Story
    25.Vectormaan

    Bighab (only need 5 more games!)

    1.Warsong
    4.D&D Warriors of the eternal sun
    6.StarFlight
    8.Dune Battle for Arrakis
    9.Landstalker
    10.NHL95
    12. Arcus Odyssey
    13.Crackdown
    14. Battletech
    15. Strider
    16.Centurion Defender of Rome
    17.Uncharted waters New Horizons
    18.Lost Vikings
    19.Exile
    20.Calibre .50
    21. Out of this World
    22. Alisia Dragoon
    23.King's Bounty
    24.El Viento
    25. Jungle Strike

    Samurai Smurfette (need another 11 games)

    Aladdin (much better than SNES version)
    Grind stormer
    Michael Jackson
    Sagaia
    Virtua Racing
    Lost Vikings
    Tmnt Hyperstone Heist
    Mickey Mania
    Aerobiz Supersonic
    Castlevania
    Comix zone
    Contra: Hard Corps
    Dynamite headdy
    Strider

    CRUSH CRAWFISH (need another 11 games)

    1. Dynamite Headdy
    6. Castlevania Bloodlines
    7. Streets of Rage
    10. Valis 3
    12. Contra: Hard Corps
    13. Pac-man 2
    16. Shinobi 3
    18. Ristar
    19. Strider
    20. Streets of Rage 3
    22. Wonder Boy in Monster World
    23. Fantastic Dizzy
    24. Chiki Chiki Boys
    25. Mega Turrican

    Captain Yashiro (need another 12 games)

    1. Championship Bowling
    2. Dragon's Fury
    4. MERCS
    5. OutRun
    10. Flicky
    11. Aladdin
    16. Mystic Defender
    17. Raiden Trad
    19. Syd of Valis
    21. Streets of Rage
    23. Steel Empire
    24. Altered Beast
    25. Bonanza Brothers


    classicb (need another 13 games)

    8. Altered Beast
    9. Tecmo Super Bowl 3 Final Edition
    14.Splatterhouse 3
    16.Mutant League Hockey
    17.Comix Zone
    19.Beyond Oasis
    20.Star Control
    21.Rolling Thunder 2
    22. NHL '95
    23. Road Rash 2
    24. Strider
    25. Street Fighter 2 Champion Edition

    imanerd0011 (need another 11 games)

    3. NBA Jam
    5. John Madden Footbal '93
    6. Contra Hard Corps
    7. Mortal Kombat
    8. NHL '96
    9. Splatterhouse 2
    10. Street Fighter 2
    16. NBA Live '95
    19. Road Rash 2
    20. Skitchin'
    21. Streets of Rage
    22. Splatterhouse 3
    23. Earthworm Jim 2
    25. WWF Wrestlemania: The Arcade Game

    Dimitri (need another 8 games)

    1. Granada
    6. Haunting Starring Polterguy
    8. Vectorman
    9. Socket
    11. Pac-Mania
    13. El Viento
    14. Virtual Pinball
    15. Alisia Dragoon
    16. Comix Zone
    17. Bonanza Brothers
    18. X-Men 2: Clone Wars
    19. Garfield: Caught in the Act
    20. Sonic Spinball
    21. Mega Bomberman
    22. ToeJam & Earl in Panic on Funkotron
    23. Crusader of Centy
    25. Kid Chameleon

    XxMe2NiKxX (need another 11 games)

    25. Technoclash (Interesting RPG for those willing to try)
    24. Zero Wing (Not just because all your base are belong to us)
    22. Zero Tolerance (For when you beat DOOM)
    21. Columns III (Not quite as good as its prequel, still worth a play)
    19. Forgotten Worlds (Great multiplayer co-op shooter, best I've seen)
    17. Shining in the Darkness (Keeps up the standard of the series)
    16. Golden Axe II (Chop chop)
    15. Hellfire (Great graphics, good flow, one of the best)
    12. Mickey Mouse: World of Illusion (Better break from Sonic)
    8. Ristar (A quirky and action-packed platformer)
    7. Columns (Endless play mode r00lz)
    6. Streets of Rage (A good action game at a brisker pace then GA)
    4. Ms. Pacman (If you haven't played pacman yet...)
    3. Sonic 3D Blast (A damn good 3D platformer in sonic style)

    Sega-16 (need another 13 games)

    4- Landstalker
    7- Monster World IV
    13- Forgotten Worlds
    14- Strider
    15- Ristar
    17- Streets of Rage
    18- Target Earth
    21- Splatterhouse 2
    22- Wonder Boy in Monster World
    23- Rolling Thunder 2
    24- Two Crude Dudes
    25- Alien Storm


    Sosage (need another 13 games)

    4. Street Fighter II: Special Champions Edition
    8. Out of this World
    11. Gain Ground
    14. Lightning Force IV/Thunderforce
    16. Road Rash II
    17. Urban Strike
    19. General Chaos
    20. Super Hang On
    21. Mortal Kombat II
    23. Battletech
    24. Flashback
    25. NBA Jams

    Daniel Thomas (need another 14 games, Bare knuckles would have to be S.O.R.3, the U.S. version)

    5. Fire Shark
    9. Sensible Soccer
    14. World of Illusion
    15. Micro Machines 2
    16. Bare Knuckles 3 (better color, more cut-scenes than SoR3)
    18. Populous
    19. Mega Turrican
    20. Monster World 4
    21. Strider
    23. Forgotten Worlds
    24. Devil's Crash (Dragon's Fury)

    JibbaJabba (need another 10 games)

    Starflight
    Buck Rogers: Countdown to Doomsday
    Turrican
    Altered Beast
    Spider-Man (Sega 1991)
    Street Fighter II Special Championship Edition
    Columns
    Phelios
    Marble Madness
    The Simpsons: Bart vs. the Space Mutants
    Star Control
    Castlevania Bloodlines
    Splatterhouse 3
    NHL '97
    Olympic Gold: Barcelona '92

    Iron Dragon (need another 9 games)

    1: Sonic Spinball
    2: Sonic 3D Blast
    8: Phantasy Star 3
    10: Alien Storm
    11: Golden Axe 2
    13: Shinobi 3
    14: Shadow Dancer
    16: Streets of Rage 3
    18: Streets of Rage
    19: Road Rash 3
    20: Road Rash 2
    21: Road Rash
    22: Out Runners
    23: Out Run
    24. Columns 3
    25. Columns

    Anthony1 (need another 12 games)

    1. John Madden Football '93
    2. Kid Chameleon
    5. NHL '94
    6. Aladdin
    11. Flashback
    13. Contra Hard Corps
    14. Beyond Oasis
    18. Jurassic Park
    19. Castlevania: Bloodlines
    20. Cool Spot
    22. PGA Tour Golf
    23. Ristar
    25. Altered Beast

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    Where's the love for Arcus Odyssey? Beyond Oasis? Ranger X?

    I'm going to have to submit a list.

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    I'll email an updated list in a day or two.

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    Can I compile a new list of games from both of my lists? I'd rather eliminate all the games that were already ranked from both lists, and combine them to see what I get. There's only a few that were on my second list that made it, and not many on my first list that I'd care to try again for the next one.

    As for Arcus Odyssey, that one was pretty high on my second list. I ended up with an "A" list and a "B" list, so I pretty much have my own top 50 list already. But I will need to combine the two now, after zapping the winners.

    As for Granada, it is a very cool game, but I wish that it had been made after the 6 button controller came out, so it would have 6 button support! It would play so much better if you could configure the buttons like you can on Guardian Force for the Saturn. BTW, if you're a Granada fan, then you MUST play Guardian Force! It's like Granada on steroids. I highly recommend it!
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    Were we able to pick Euro releases? I thought it was just U.S. games. Looking over those lists, I see a few games that were never released in the States, like Sensible Soccer, Monsterworld 4, Alien Storm and Zero Wing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jslithy
    Were we able to pick Euro releases? I thought it was just U.S. games. Looking over those lists, I see a few games that were never released in the States, like Sensible Soccer, Monsterworld 4, Alien Storm and Zero Wing.

    It's supposed to be U.S. only.


    one guy ranked Bare Knuckles 3 as well. I'm not a expert at all on non U.S. Genny carts, so I didn't know for sure if games like Zero Wing or Sensible Soccer were U.S. or not. I didn't think that Sensible Soccer was, but I wasn't sure.

    By the way, didn't Alien Storm come out here?

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    Wow, nice to see Gunstar Heros and Herzog Zwei ranked so high!
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    I'll have the rest in to you by Monday for the top 50.

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