I just thought of something. When all the 360s were dying on people, there were many complaints of not being able to play thier xbla games offline on their new system. So that means if I wanted to upgrade to the elite, I would no longer be able to play any of my arcade games offline. I think that is something microsoft should think of for the people who want to upgrade. Yeah, i guess you could keep your old system to play the games you've downloaded, but i think a decent amount of people would want to sell thier old system to help pay for the new one, but then they'd be out whatever arcade games they've bought.