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    Setting up MAME's files is easy, you don't even have to mess around with ClrMAMEpro.

    ALSO, there are two issues mentioned in this thread.

    On the topic of sticks, make sure the sticks are plugged in before you start MAME.

    If they still don't work then there's something terribly wrong with those sticks because every USB joystick that reports its button and key mapping to Windows in a standard fashion should work.

    You can try using PPJoy (which I haven't tested, just seen about the webz, so YMMV) or something similar (maybe Joy2Key will work?) to get a keyboard key mapping for your stick.

    Other than that, I'm kinda surprised a 360 stick wouldn't work on a PC. My Mad Catz 360 stick works just fine (for programs that need analog sticks, anyway).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Oscuro View Post
    If they still don't work then there's something terribly wrong with those sticks because every USB joystick that reports its button and key mapping to Windows in a standard fashion should work.

    Other than that, I'm kinda surprised a 360 stick wouldn't work on a PC. My Mad Catz 360 stick works just fine (for programs that need analog sticks, anyway).
    Thanks to all for your feedback, I really feel confort in knowing im not the only one experiencing these issues.

    Ed, the stick actually works for a number of programs, and I have no difficulty having MAME detect the stick. If you'll look back, you'll see it's just NEORAGEX that has stick issues, and it seems to be with a number of sticks too. The Fightstick TE I have works well on ZSNES, Street Fighter 4 PC etc, its just that NEORAGEX, the most stabe fighting game emulator I know, is very old and never updated for stick compatibility.

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    It's not "the most stable" as you say it. It just uses a different rom set than other, more updated emulators around. There's torrents for Neo-Geo ROMs floating around that only work on NeoRAGEx. Otherwise you can find MAME packs that only work on MAME and its variants.
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    I see what's going on here. Definitely get some up-to-date MAME ROMz and voila, the stick will work, and the games too!

    If NeoRageX runs games for the guy, and he's complaining about it not being updated, then he probably has an up-to-date ROMset for it, BetaWolf. The program he's using wrong / outdated ROMz on is MAME - all the games listed there do work in newer (and even older) versions of MAME, no problem.

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    Neo Geo needs that neogeo.zip bios, as that was the first thing that popped into my mind too. Plus, roms have to match the revision of the MAME too - I find Mame32 has the best fighter compatibility, it's what I use and I have zero problems with it. Then again I matched romset to the version too.
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    MAME is alright if you know where to look. Getting to work, well that is if you can find the right bios file. I remember Nebula & Winkawaks are highly recommended if you are into NeoGeo & CPS2 fighting games. Now I'm not sure if both program exist.

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    I think the question that should be asked is why are you using such an ancient emulator? There's no excuse not to use something newer, unless you're still running a Pentium III or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsune Sniper View Post
    I think the question that should be asked is why are you using such an ancient emulator? There's no excuse not to use something newer, unless you're still running a Pentium III or something.
    Or want decent netplay. Mame32 + Kaillera is still a nice netplay option to this day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AB Positive View Post
    I find Mame32 has the best fighter compatibility,
    Aside from multiplayer - there shouldn't be any advantage to using one build of MAME or another when it comes to compatibility with the MAME drivers. Some builds, like MAME Plus! actually offer console and other extended drivers, but I don't even know where to find them in the GUI let alone play games with them.

    I say "shouldn't be" because it's always possible one port or another will gum something up, and MAME Plus! has a disclaimer about sending bug reports on their download page. Still, my switch from MAME UI 32 to Plus! was as painless as could be, and I don't miss the straitjacket of the too feature-lean MAME UI build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Oscuro View Post
    Aside from multiplayer - there shouldn't be any advantage to using one build of MAME or another when it comes to compatibility with the MAME drivers. Some builds, like MAME Plus! actually offer console and other extended drivers, but I don't even know where to find them in the GUI let alone play games with them.
    I remember that in order to play the home versions of the NeoGeo games, you had to right click on a game, go to Properties (Options?) and choose the region / bios that way. Home/Arcade, US/Japan/Asia/Europe, and so on.
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    Since I can't find a site where it's uploaded emulator works with it's provided roms... I've been trying to use PPJoy, but PPJoy doesn't seem to be reading input from the 360 FightstickTE, it just sits at "Reading Joystick Input" and doesn't detect anything under any switch mode on the stick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kitsune Sniper View Post
    I remember that in order to play the home versions of the NeoGeo games, you had to right click on a game, go to Properties (Options?) and choose the region / bios that way. Home/Arcade, US/Japan/Asia/Europe, and so on.
    I mean home consoles, like the Genesis or SNES. I'm rather sure it's supposed to support these, though why anybody would use them (or even MESS, which is well named) over a mature emulator - for daily use, anyway - is beyond me. I could imagine times when MAME's interface and setup would be nicer to deal with than bsnes, for instance.

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