P.S.I. Necessary before a disc or cartridge breaks

[Jorpho]

Hey! Thanks for the help last time! I want to know the PSI (Pounds Per Square inch) necessary for a disc or a cartridge to break

How exactly would you expect pressure to break a disc? Mr. Celerystalker has the right idea. Stick-on disc labels in theory can exert enough force on a disc over time to deform them to the point where they may no longer be readable, if they're applied improperly. It is also possible to spin a disc fast enough that it will actually start to warp and subsequently shatter; there are some lovely Youtube videos of that effect.

[RP2A03]

How exactly would you expect pressure to break a disc?

I would expect that the pressures present at the bottom of the ocean would have a negative effect on a disc. Unfortunately, I could not find any data to back this up.

[Leo_A]

Why such a peculiar question? Assuming you just have too much time on your hands and we're just attempting to satisfy your curiosity, I think we have a right to have our curiosity satisfied as well.

I would expect that the pressures present at the bottom of the ocean would have a negative effect on a disc. Unfortunately, I could not find any data to back this up.

Unless the material that optical discs are made up of isn't solid, I wouldn't expect the pressure on the bottom of the ocean to cause damage. It's stuff like styrofoam or submarines that have issues with that.

[Jorpho]

Well, conceivably one might want to store a cartridge or disc unprotected in the bottom of a storage locker (as the volume of any additional packing would add to storage costs), and thus need to know the maximum load that could be stacked thereupon?

[Tanooki]

That actually kind of makes sense, but still, if something has enough value, why would you want to put like 300lbs of crap on top of it that might cause structural integrity failure? Once that plastic shell goes it'll stab right into the guts on the inside when it folds in on itself. A disc though, that could take a good bit more, but even if they are by appearance solid, they really aren't, nothing really is. Sure it would take a lot more pressure than say an object with a clear open space to it, still enough pressure would cause some space somewhere along the disc to fail, compress down under the stress and crack. The disc though would take a hell of a lot more pressure than a cart.

The cheapest way I think you could test it would be to get a cheap weight checking device you could put between it, the object causing the force, and the object having it applied to it and keep adding more weight or force until it buckles and you'll know. You can get stuff that even just has a spring in the middle, a hook on each side, and a gauge in the middle that'll move the needle along as more force it applied while something computer based would cost far more.

[Ogreatgames]

@celerystalker Thanks! This adds more light toward the experiment on the disc side. Also did not expect 100% accuracy because I noticed some discs are simply made different. The only challenging thing would be cartridges (for 2 direct objects not too big overlap them & simply hold them up instead of cover up). Never mind, the side of a cartridge is flat so it needs little force to hold it. @RP2A03 No. @Emperor Megas lol come to what asking questions? @Niku-Sama ok I have a bathroom scale, what is a vice? @Jorpho I did not know that a disc can shatter if it is spun at insane speeds, and I did not know disc labels had an effect like that. @Leo_A Not thinking of putting it in the ocean. This question because it made a lot of since to me with cake disc boxes being abundant it hit me that "how much pressure before it actually breaks" and how many could be stacked or raw pressure given before it breaks. @Tanooki I was not planning on just picking any old disc or cartridge. It would have to one that there is no hope at all but not cracked. Also I am a bit confused on the exact meaning by the needle in the middle? Like a pendulum with force right?
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Anyway this question evolved into 2 different ways that I did not expect. 1. A scenario where the disc or cartridge is in the middle between two objects. 2. A scenario where the disc or cartridge is crushed under other discs or cartridges. I was focused on scenario 1. But scenario 2 makes me just as curious. Why in a locker and not the floor for scenario 2?

[RP2A03]

This question because it made a lot of since to me with cake disc boxes being abundant it hit me that "how much pressure before it actually breaks" and how many could be stacked or raw pressure given before it breaks.

Discs should not be stored horizontally; they will warp over time. Optical discs should be treated similarly to grooved discs. This means that they should be stored vertically in jewel cases only, and if you are really serious you should also rotate your discs one quarter turn every three months.

[Leo_A]

@Leo_A Not thinking of putting it in the ocean. This question because it made a lot of since to me with cake disc boxes being abundant it hit me that "how much pressure before it actually breaks" and how many could be stacked or raw pressure given before it breaks.

No kidding about the ocean. Nobody thought that you were planning to dump games into the depths of the ocean.

And cake disc boxes?

[Jorpho]

Anyway this question evolved into 2 different ways that I did not expect. 1. A scenario where the disc or cartridge is in the middle between two objects. 2. A scenario where the disc or cartridge is crushed under other discs or cartridges.

I do not understand why you think these scenarios are different.

if you are really serious you should also rotate your discs one quarter turn every three months.

Is that something vinyl collectors actually do?