Resident Evil 0 N64

[ashmeister]

is there a demo cartridge or something out therE??????:eek 2:

[BocoDragon]

Someone should sneak their way into Capcom HQ and score a beta of this and Resident Evil 1.5... and dump it for us :)

[XxHennersXx]

Someone should sneak their way into Capcom HQ and score a beta of this and Resident Evil 1.5... and dump it for us :)

Capcom doesn't even have RE 1.5

a collector in South Korea has it now.

[BocoDragon]

Capcom doesn't even have RE 1.5

a collector in South Korea has it now.

If this is true, then buddy should pop that thing into his PC and fire up Nero... make us an .iso!

[CosmicMonkey]

You should ask about Biohazzard 1.5 over at ASSEMbler.

Or not... ;)

[XxHennersXx]

If this is true, then buddy should pop that thing into his PC and fire up Nero... make us an .iso!

alot of collectors like that don't like to share with dumps and whatnot, they believe it lessens the value of their purchase. while partially true, others belive they have this stance because of greed.

[BocoDragon]

alot of collectors like that don't like to share with dumps and whatnot, they believe it lessens the value of their purchase. while partially true, others belive they have this stance because of greed.

Sounds greedy to me. The first thing I would do is release it to the community. If no one knows it exists, who gives a crap? There's a finite amount of people who will ever care that you own it, they will all disappear after awhile. Without recognition... who cares that you own something rare?

Though I suppose if you just bought a labelled CD-R or something, giving the world the ability to make their own CD-R is a little troubling.

More likely the person is BSing and has nothing.

.iso or it doesn't exist!

[Borman]

Greed is often times not the case. It can be not wanting the person to lose his job, or make their contact lose their job. It can also be that the person who now has it made an agreement to not release it, for any number of reasons. So dont go and think greed is everything.

[mrmark0673]

I don't think its greedy to keep the ROM to yourself.

*Slips and falls in puddle of butter*

[BocoDragon]

Greed is often times not the case. It can be not wanting the person to lose his job, or make their contact lose their job. It can also be that the person who now has it made an agreement to not release it, for any number of reasons. So dont go and think greed is everything.
I hate to say it, but that makes sense. I guess if something truly is one of a kind, it's pretty easy to find out who leaked it....

[XxHennersXx]

I hate to say it, but that makes sense. I guess if something truly is one of a kind, it's pretty easy to find out who leaked it....

exactally. alot of stuff that these "elite" collectors have cannot be devulged...

[goemon]

I don't see why a person should be compelled to distribute for free something they paid thousands of dollars for. I hate to sound like a jerk, but if I had any rare protos, I wouldn't dump them and give them out for free. That sort of thing makes Dur Buttermönster cry.

[Borman]

I don't see why a person should be compelled to distribute for free something they paid thousands of dollars for. I hate to sound like a jerk, but if I had any rare protos, I wouldn't dump them and give them out for free. That sort of thing makes Dur Buttermönster cry.


Of course, thats the other half. But there are ways around that, such as the community contributing a certain amount to the owner of the original for a release. But since many protos are fingerprinted back to the magazine or specific user, or can only be in the hands of a certain number of employees who had access, that is a major issue.

[DreamTR]

goemon is right. Bocodragon, it's not your RIGHT to play it for free. Pony up the monies and get a community dump going instead of saying " I SHOULD PLAY FOR FREE HE SHOULD DUMP."

[BocoDragon]

goemon is right. Bocodragon, it's not your RIGHT to play it for free. Pony up the monies and get a community dump going instead of saying " I SHOULD PLAY FOR FREE HE SHOULD DUMP."

Of course it isn't my "right"... to any videogame.

I'm just saying that if I ever bought something like this, there is no way in hell I would hoarde it to myself. I just don't take this stuff that seriously... it's videogames. I'd rather let the world play, and provide the game to the public.

If there are privacy concerns.... Fine. That makes sense why you would keep it.

If it's about rarity and value and whatever... Go ahead and hoarde whatever you want, but you'd be a jerk. I hope God thinks you have a really cool collection, because no one else will care.

[goemon]

If it's about rarity and value and whatever... Go ahead and hoarde whatever you want, but you'd be a jerk. I hope God thinks you have a really cool collection, because no one else will care.

If I had a rarity (prototype of my favorite game, etc) then I would care about it, and that's all that would matter to me regarding it. I wouldn't spend 2k Monies on a proto just because it's rare - I would buy it because it means something to me.

[BocoDragon]

If I had a rarity (prototype of my favorite game, etc) then I would care about it, and that's all that would matter to me regarding it. I wouldn't spend 2k Monies on a proto just because it's rare - I would buy it because it means something to me.

If it means something to you, wouldn't the best way to appreciate it be to share it amongst gamers?

If a great game falls in a forest, and no one is around to play it, is it a great game?

Anyway, this issue could obviously go on forever, and talk is cheap. Nothing changes.

I have no problem with pimp capitalist collectors.

I'm just saying that if I was one, I'd be Robin Hood (wait... he was poor... er... Batman?), and do something for my society with that power.....

The thing is, at least if the proto were still at Capcom, it would have a chance at being leaked (to everyone) in the future..... now in this collectors hands? I hope he has a good will, an heir who actually gives a damn, and maybe an order to reveal something of the game at some point? Bah... theres a chance no one will care about RE in 30 years. I'm sure Capcom still has the code anyway don't they?

[XxHennersXx]

Of course it isn't my "right"... to any videogame.

I'm just saying that if I ever bought something like this, there is no way in hell I would hoarde it to myself. I just don't take this stuff that seriously... it's videogames. I'd rather let the world play, and provide the game to the public.

If there are privacy concerns.... Fine. That makes sense why you would keep it.

If it's about rarity and value and whatever... Go ahead and hoarde whatever you want, but you'd be a jerk. I hope God thinks you have a really cool collection, because no one else will care.

alot of these elite collectors won't show off their collections. there are hundreds of games that have had protos leaked out to private collectors who don't tell a damn soul because someone will lose their job or similar.

[goemon]

If it means something to you, wouldn't the best way to appreciate it be to share it amongst gamers?

If a great game falls in a forest, and no one is around to play it, is it a great game?

Anyway, this issue could obviously go on forever, and talk is cheap. Nothing changes.

I have no problem with pimp capitalist collectors.

I'm just saying that if I was one, I'd be Robin Hood (wait... he was poor... er... Batman?), and do something for my society with that power.....

The thing is, at least if the proto were still at Capcom, it would have a chance at being leaked (to everyone) in the future..... now in this collectors hands? I hope he has a good will, an heir who actually gives a damn, and maybe an order to reveal something of the game at some point? Bah... theres a chance no one will care about RE in 30 years. I'm sure Capcom still has the code anyway don't they?

I hope I wasn't unclear -- I don't want to make a blanket statement against releasing prototypes. I said that if I had an unreleased proto of a game I liked, I would keep it for myself, partially because the games I like are also games that most people don't care about (Choro Q, Gust RPG's, etc). If I happened to stumble upon something rare and sought-after that I didn't care about (Biohazard 1.5, let's say) I wouldn't have a problem releasing it because I wouldn't have any attachment to it. Maybe I have an odd way of thinking about these things, but that's as clearly as I think I can express my view.

[ashmeister]

dont you think there would be more than just one copy of all the demo software?????? some of us would kill just to play on them and aint that bothered if it aint collectable.

[XxHennersXx]

dont you think there would be more than just one copy of all the demo software?????? some of us would kill just to play on them and aint that bothered if it aint collectable.

it's not a demo. It's a prototype. The games were burnt onto CD-R's to play on the debug kit, they were usually then tossed aside.

[ashmeister]

its a shame really. it still looked amazing on the n64.

[ashmeister]

i was on ign.com the other day looking at the top 50 n64 games and it said resi evil 0 was one of them :s how?

[XxHennersXx]

i was on ign.com the other day looking at the top 50 n64 games and it said resi evil 0 was one of them :s how?

link please.

[ashmeister]

http://www.gamestats.com/index/gpm/nintendo-64.html

its number 30

[veronica_marsfan]

Probably a mistake by ign.com where they miscategorized RE0 as an N64 game.

[rbudrick]

CDRs and carts all degrade in quality over the years. At the very least, collectors should make copies for themselves, just in case the proto suffers damage.

And the idea that Capcom doesn't even have their own game any more is rediculous. They've got it.

-Rob

[BocoDragon]

CDRs and carts all degrade in quality over the years. At the very least, collectors should make copies for themselves, just in case the proto suffers damage.

And the idea that Capcom doesn't even have their own game any more is rediculous. They've got it.

-Rob

I'm sure they do.

If the proto is out there, then the idea that it was the "last copy" was probably just a selling point/part of the legend.

[jajaja]

Sounds greedy to me. The first thing I would do is release it to the community.

Its easy to say it when you dont own a really expencive proto yourself ;) Its not a $50 game, its most likely $1000+. Its alot of money so they want to maintain the value incase they have to sell it some day. Dump it and it would drop probly 50% or more in value. Sure, if you want to buy it and dont care about the value just so a buch of people you dont even know can play it, thats fine of course, but i hope you can see it from another prespective too.

[BocoDragon]

Its easy to say it when you dont own a really expencive proto yourself ;) Its not a $50 game, its most likely $1000+. Its alot of money so they want to maintain the value incase they have to sell it some day. Dump it and it would drop probly 50% or more in value. Sure, if you want to buy it and dont care about the value just so a buch of people you dont even know can play it, thats fine of course, but i hope you can see it from another prespective too.

I can.

I would release the game in an instant.... but then again, would someone who takes it so flippantly really ever buy a $1000+ dollar proto? And if I did, I can see how it would seem silly to flush $$ value down the toilet...

I just think a game sitting in a vault that no one will ever play, is pretty sad... and it would be nice to have that stuff on the public record as something any fan can investigate..... As a fan I could not bear for that stuff to be unwitnessed by other fans. But let the capitalist do what he needs...

[veronica_marsfan]

CDRs and carts all degrade in quality over the years. At the very least, collectors should make copies for themselves, just in case the proto suffers damage.

Good argument.

Imagine how much it would suck to "lose" RE0 because the only privately-owned copy became damaged (example: burned in fire). Copying the prototype to a ROM image ensures it won't be lost, even if the original hardware fails.

[XxHennersXx]

Good argument.

Imagine how much it would suck to "lose" RE0 because the only privately-owned copy became damaged (example: burned in fire). Copying the prototype to a ROM image ensures it won't be lost, even if the original hardware fails.

alot of these proto's are dumped to be preserved, just not publically shared

[8-bitNesMan]

Probably a mistake by ign.com where they miscategorized RE0 as an N64 game.

Wasn't Zero originally slated for release on the N64?

[ashmeister]

yes it was. but that is a list of the top 50 games out so its wrong.

[DreamTR]

BocoDragon: I actually think YOU would be the jerk the way you act all high and mighty about this. I've had many of my unreleased NES protos donated to the community, but of course people are clueless to it and still think I'm hoarding everything left and right. Have YOU ever found an unreleased proto and shared it? Who are these "pimp and elite" collectors you speak of that horde unreleased prototypes for "capitalist value?" I'd like to know. Most unreleased protos don't go up in value like you say. They are only worth what someone is willing to pay for them. They are, at their most valuable, when they are undumped, and there is demand for them. If you donate it for free and not recoup any of your losses after paying $1500-3000, congrats to you, you illegally publically released a game that you hold no copyright to. Who cares that you did that? The ROM community?

My point is if I pay $1000 for a game, I want to recoup my finances for it. That's not being stingy, that's just making sure you don't take a loss so someone like BocaDragon gets to play the game. This is precisely why the dumping community gets a bad name, having to deal with your "ideas" on the situation when you haven't really done anything or collected any of the stuff to begin with. If you have, prove me wrong and tell me where these obscure Genesis, SNES, and NES prototypes in the past year that have been dumped and released publically came from. Oh wait, that's right, most of them came from my "horded" collection. Gosh darn it.

[Borman]

CDRs and carts all degrade in quality over the years. At the very least, collectors should make copies for themselves, just in case the proto suffers damage.

And the idea that Capcom doesn't even have their own game any more is rediculous. They've got it.

-Rob

Its possible that the game has been lost. Plenty of prototypes have been discarded and totally deleted, whether on purpose, or due to mismanagement of their resources in some way (Knowingly deleting, flood, whatever the case). This was more common in the NES days then it is now, obviously, but anything is possible. Do I think it happened with RE? Na, Im sure its out there somewhere.

And btw DreamTR, I love you for your releases :)

[BocoDragon]

BocoDragon: I actually think YOU would be the jerk the way you act all high and mighty about this. I've had many of my unreleased NES protos donated to the community, but of course people are clueless to it and still think I'm hoarding everything left and right. Have YOU ever found an unreleased proto and shared it? Who are these "pimp and elite" collectors you speak of that horde unreleased prototypes for "capitalist value?" I'd like to know. Most unreleased protos don't go up in value like you say. They are only worth what someone is willing to pay for them. They are, at their most valuable, when they are undumped, and there is demand for them. If you donate it for free and not recoup any of your losses after paying $1500-3000, congrats to you, you illegally publically released a game that you hold no copyright to. Who cares that you did that? The ROM community?

My point is if I pay $1000 for a game, I want to recoup my finances for it. That's not being stingy, that's just making sure you don't take a loss so someone like BocaDragon gets to play the game. This is precisely why the dumping community gets a bad name, having to deal with your "ideas" on the situation when you haven't really done anything or collected any of the stuff to begin with. If you have, prove me wrong and tell me where these obscure Genesis, SNES, and NES prototypes in the past year that have been dumped and released publically came from. Oh wait, that's right, most of them came from my "horded" collection. Gosh darn it.

Sorry but I think videogames should be played.

Oh, and if the likes of people who want an unreleased game to be released to the public ruins "the dumping community", please just ignore these people and go on with your private collecting. Because I think a lot of people would feel the same way....

If you ask Joe Blow on the street they will say "release it", obviously. So if you have no intention of doing that, just ignore them. It's not exactly a crazy request to want to play a lost beta of a popular game..... so if you have your "value" reasons for denying their request, don't be shocked. They just wanted to see Rebecca Chambers' blurry N64 ass.

EDIT: On the other hand... you made your point. ;)

[XxHennersXx]

BocoDragon: I actually think YOU would be the jerk the way you act all high and mighty about this. I've had many of my unreleased NES protos donated to the community, but of course people are clueless to it and still think I'm hoarding everything left and right. Have YOU ever found an unreleased proto and shared it? Who are these "pimp and elite" collectors you speak of that horde unreleased prototypes for "capitalist value?" I'd like to know. Most unreleased protos don't go up in value like you say. They are only worth what someone is willing to pay for them. They are, at their most valuable, when they are undumped, and there is demand for them. If you donate it for free and not recoup any of your losses after paying $1500-3000, congrats to you, you illegally publically released a game that you hold no copyright to. Who cares that you did that? The ROM community?

My point is if I pay $1000 for a game, I want to recoup my finances for it. That's not being stingy, that's just making sure you don't take a loss so someone like BocaDragon gets to play the game. This is precisely why the dumping community gets a bad name, having to deal with your "ideas" on the situation when you haven't really done anything or collected any of the stuff to begin with. If you have, prove me wrong and tell me where these obscure Genesis, SNES, and NES prototypes in the past year that have been dumped and released publically came from. Oh wait, that's right, most of them came from my "horded" collection. Gosh darn it.

Limed for Great Justice.