Predicting the Future of the Wii by Looking at the DS

[cobadee]

Check out this article:


http://www.gamewad.com/predicting-the-future-of-the-wii-by-looking-at-the-ds--3325-p.html

Do you guys agree with it? Disagree with it?

[heybtbm]

While the touch screen feature of the DS can make games more enjoyable (as Pokemon Diamond and Pearl players have recently learned), the innovative aspect of the Wii (its controller) does not.

[crazyjackcsa]

While the touch screen feature of the DS can make games more enjoyable (as Pokemon Diamond and Pearl players have recently learned), the innovative aspect of the Wii (its controller) does not.



Sure it does, you can tell it does because I said so, which is the same as your agrument that it doesn't.

[Kejoriv]

Sure it does, you can tell it does because I said so, which is the same as your agrument that it doesn't.

haha. i love it

[veronica_marsfan]

Um.

What's wrong with having Wii games use the standard Analog stick and D-pad?

(shrug)

Just because the OPTION to use motion-sensors exists, doesn't mean it has to be used. You use it for games that need it, and don't use it for games that don't need it.

Simple.

[jajaja]

Um.

What's wrong with having Wii games use the standard Analog stick and D-pad?

But then its nothing more than a Gamecube! LOL

Seriously tho, you're right. The developers doesnt have to use the motion sensing in a Wii game, but i'm sure you will hardly see any games that doesnt use the motion sensing in one way or another. Motion sensing is what the Wii is all about. Without it, whats left, a Gamecube? Hehe ;)

[heybtbm]

Sure it does, you can tell it does because I said so, which is the same as your agrument that it doesn't.


...and your point is?

Should every single post on DP include some disclaimer that the proceeding message is an opinion? I would think that fact is obvious and doesn't need to be pointed out each time.

[NintenDk]

Sure it does, you can tell it does because I said so, which is the same as your agrument that it doesn't.


...and your point is?

Should every single post on DP include some disclaimer that the proceeding message is an opinion? I would think that fact is obvious and doesn't need to be pointed out each time.

in the context to the previous post crazyjackcsa's responding to its hilarious, but standalone it does beg that question, however you beg the question of why aren't you seeing the bigger picture ;)


haha. i love it

says it all
:)

[WanganRunner]

This article is ferociously gay.

The author is implying that the DS is a failure, when in reality it is the most successful system in recent history, and for all the right reasons.

The Wii WILL be similar to the DS, in that it will be a colossal success because Nintendo knows what the hell they're doing.

People naysayed the DS shortly after launch too, but I didn't think anyone had the cajones to do it now, when it effectively rules the world.

[FantasiaWHT]

Yeah... article seems like a pretty poorly-written rant... tries to say the Wii will fail because the DS will fail... yet the DS is a monstrous success.

Almost everything on there is either a) flat out wrong (DS games stayed too short and simple? The graphics won't improve? Graphics always improve on every system over it's lifetime) or b) applicable to all systems (manufacturer will release anything, crappy FPS and racers come out, lots of puzzle games will come out, companies will release nearly identical games)

About everything else... better chance of a good RPG on Wii than 360 (and the GBA didn't have a plethora of good RPGs for quite a while). Kiddo games galore is becoming a more and more meaningless stereotype, and the idea that Nintendo won't support it's own system with enough games is ludicrous.

The only thing that does really worry me IS that the wiimote sensing (especially on the Z-axis) is poor and may not improve. Think of Rayman and Monkeyball with in-and-out minigames. Think of Wii Golf and putting, think of Wii Boxing period.

[Mianrtcv]

Should every single post on DP include some disclaimer that the proceeding message is an opinion? I would think that fact is obvious and doesn't need to be pointed out each time.

At times people bicker over many topis here. Hard to believe, I know. I think the "just my opinion" caveat is the persons quiet plee to leave a comment without having to get into a debate or receive an avalanche of critical comments. That said, "just my opinion".


As for the article... The DS rules the roost now. Sales are great. Games are pretty varied and I like the overall quality. The Wii needs more time to establish itself like the DS has. Yes sales of the unit are leaving stock low but that seems to be a production issue, partially. It does not have the array of titles yet to deem it in the DS league. At the same time it is showing progress.

[crazyjackcsa]

I agree, I thought the article was poorly written and researched.If the early momentum can be built upon, then I think we will see a DS sized success. And to think the DS has been anything less than a success is crazy.
To heybtbm, I respect your opinion, but with out anything to back it up, the thought is invalid. I don't mean to insult you by any means, but you always, always have to give reasons. Anybody that wrote an essay in school knows that: Here is what I think, and why. That isn't to say we should all write an Anthony1 essay style post, but a little expansion of a thought never hurt anyone.

[Jorpho]

"It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." -Yogi Berra.

[Captain Wrong]

This article is ferociously gay.

Funny, I didn't notice anything about sexual orientation in there.

[boatofcar]

This article is ferociously gay.


How exactly does one be ferociously gay?

[dcescott]

The wii is going to get some great games here soon. After the Nintendo big guns are released (MP3, SMG), the third party games will get better once the devs learn how to push the envelope. Games get better after the first year. The DS titles got better down the road...

[le geek]

Now come on, the man's username is Wang Runner... :p

[Lothars]

The Wii WILL be similar to the DS, in that it will be a colossal success because Nintendo knows what the hell they're doing.


I think partially the reason the DS is so successful is that it's portable system and the touch screen is a really good thing,

I really don't see the Wii following the same path as the DS, I still see the sales of the Wii leveling off.

I love my DS and think it's a great system but I just don't see the Wii following the DS all in all.

[djsquarewave]

I can clearly see the Wii following the DS. Game designers will learn that you don't need to use the motion controls for everything, much like you don't always need two gameplay screens or a faux-analog-stick with the DS. It's all about moderation: don't stick in things that muck up the gameplay just because you can.

Though, if the games don't wind up looking any better than Gamecube games -- and more than likely, they'll never really push much further -- I won't be one to complain too much. A lot of Cube games still look really nice, even first-gen ones (Luigi's Mansion and Rogue Leager come to mind...).

[Eteric Rice]

I think the problem is that developers are over using the Wii's motion sensing. I think the Wii-mote should be used for two things.

1. Pointer.
2. Motion to do basic attacks.

Sort of like in Zelda, accept it can be done better. Swing left, Link swings left. Swing right, Link swings right. Slash down, Link slashes down.

The pointer for the bow, etc.

Anything else should use the other buttons. Things requiring crazy motions shoudn't be done. I think a game like SSX Blur was on the right track, it just needed a little more time to iron out more variations (so the tricks would register better).

There needs to be a balance.

Anyway, the Wii's sales will probably slow until Wii Health Pack is released, then I expect to see a major jump in sales equaling that of Brain Age.

[jajaja]

Handhelds from Nintendo have always been a huge success. Altho the DS has huge success it doesnt mean that Wii will follow. Take GBA for example, it had a huge success, but Gamecube that was released in the same time period didnt do as well as the GBA.

The future of the Wii is very uncertain. So far its doing great, but what about in a year? Its impossible to say. The only thing i can think of that will hurt the Wii is that people are getting tired of the whole motion sensing thingie and lack of good games of course.

[smork]

Nintendo can wish the Wii follows the DS. I can understand the analysis of the Wii, but all the points on the DS being a failure? Pretty ridiculous. Like what's on offer or not, the games are very popular, the system is popular and fashionable. There's really a pretty wide selection of game types available, too.

I hope the Wii goes down that path -- lots of choice, several years into its life cycle. It's a bit disappointing now, but so was the DS after the launch and before the 1 year anniversary.

Not too sure what to think of anything on a site called Gamewad anyway.

[chrisbid]

Handhelds from Nintendo have always been a huge success. Altho the DS has huge success it doesnt mean that Wii will follow. Take GBA for example, it had a huge success, but Gamecube that was released in the same time period didnt do as well as the GBA.

The future of the Wii is very uncertain. So far its doing great, but what about in a year? Its impossible to say. The only thing i can think of that will hurt the Wii is that people are getting tired of the whole motion sensing thingie and lack of good games of course.


the only people getting tired of motion sensing are spoiled internet brats that have a ton of time and money on their hands. due to unanticipated demand, a lot of casual gamers the wii was designed for, have yet to play it (most stores do not have live demos)

the future of the wii is very bright, the install base is huge for a console that has only been on the market for six months. third parties will dump lots of quick and dirty games on the machine between now and xmas to sell to these people. the good games will take time and effort and start tricking onto the system next year. (the good games so far have been gamecube crossovers). if production catches up with demand this summer, shortages will return at xmas time.

[jajaja]

the only people getting tired of motion sensing are spoiled internet brats that have a ton of time and money on their hands.

What does money, free time, spoiled and internet have to do with getting tired of something? I.e if you play a game, its cool in the begining, but then it gets boring. Does that mean your a spoiled internet brat with too much money and time on your hand? lol :P

[WanganRunner]

Funny, I didn't notice anything about sexual orientation in there.

As a former active member of an undergraduate fraternity and current full-time asshole internet ranter, I reserve the right to substitute the word "gay" for any of the following terms:

Weak, bad, shitty, crappy, unfortunate, sub-par, inadequate, frustrating, irritating, below average, etc...

Sorry, but it's in my contract, I'm allowed to do it.


And my nickname is not "wang runner", it is "wanganrunner". The "wangan" is a stretch of highway in the Tokyo area famous for being a night-time testing ground for Japanese shop cars (i.e. Top Secret, Ridox, Waste Sports, etc...). The term was initially made famous by the "Wangan Midnight" manga series. I saw fit to use it as my screen name because, well, I spent some time over there and thought it was a neat scene.

[Captain Wrong]

As a former active member of an undergraduate fraternity and current full-time asshole internet ranter, I reserve the right to substitute the word "gay" for any of the following terms:

Weak, bad, shitty, crappy, unfortunate, sub-par, inadequate, frustrating, irritating, below average, etc...

Sorry, but it's in my contract, I'm allowed to do it.


And my nickname is not "wang runner", it is "wanganrunner". The "wangan" is a stretch of highway in the Tokyo area famous for being a night-time testing ground for Japanese shop cars (i.e. Top Secret, Ridox, Waste Sports, etc...). The term was initially made famous by the "Wangan Midnight" manga series. I saw fit to use it as my screen name because, well, I spent some time over there and thought it was a neat scene.

OH, well, if you notice the fine print under section 23, paragraph A, le geek has invoked the clause which allows the changing of your handle to wang runner. Sorry, but that's in the contract, he's allowed to do it.

[le geek]

D00d I'm just yankin' UR "wangan"... I think the context of your post was pretty clear.

Cheers,
Ben

[veronica_marsfan]

Um.

What's wrong with having Wii games use the standard Analog stick and D-pad? But then its nothing more than a Gamecube! LOL
That's fine. The Gamecube was a beautiful piece of hardware. Just had lousy sequels.

[jajaja]

That's fine. The Gamecube was a beautiful piece of hardware. Just had lousy sequels.

Ye, but GC is much cheaper (talking about price) than Wii ;)

[WanganRunner]

D00d I'm just yankin' UR "wangan"... I think the context of your post was pretty clear.

Cheers,
Ben

;)

I *did* pick up on that, hopefully at least a trace of sarcasm was detected when I invoked my "contract"

[j_factor]

Ye, but GC is much cheaper (talking about price) than Wii ;)

And it doesn't come with the Wiimote, nunchuk, motion sensor bar, wi-fi compatibility, upgraded hardware, ability to play Wii software, and a copy of Wii Sports.

So yeah, except for all those things and the different media format, Wii is just a more expensive Gamecube.

[veronica_marsfan]

Well if we're going by price (and sticking with Nintendo), then everyone should go buy a like-new N64 for ~$10 on ebay.

Besides, N64's games were more FUN than the Cube's games.
So it's not just cheaper..... it's also got the better software.

[jajaja]

And it doesn't come with the Wiimote, nunchuk, motion sensor bar, wi-fi compatibility, upgraded hardware, ability to play Wii software, and a copy of Wii Sports.

So yeah, except for all those things and the different media format, Wii is just a more expensive Gamecube.

We were talking about if you removed the motion sensing and play without it. If you take away the motion sensing your basicly stuck with a Gamecube.

Anyway, it was just a joke. Many people say Wii is just a Gamecube, thats why i joked about it :P I know Wii isnt the same as a Gamecube (altho its built on it).



Well if we're going by price (and sticking with Nintendo), then everyone should go buy a like-new N64 for ~$10 on ebay.

We were only talking about Wii and Gamecube since they are quite simular when it comes to visuals (atleast the games we have seen so far). N64 isnt compareable to GC or Wii :p

[FantasiaWHT]

Well if we're going by price (and sticking with Nintendo), then everyone should go buy a like-new N64 for ~$10 on ebay.

Besides, N64's games were more FUN than the Cube's games.
So it's not just cheaper..... it's also got the better software.

We've already got a thread on that. Wait, no, we have two :P

[j_factor]

Anyway, it was just a joke. Many people say Wii is just a Gamecube, thats why i joked about it :P I know Wii isnt the same as a Gamecube (altho its built on it).

I know you were just joking, but other people were not, and it was a good opportunity for me to vent. :p

[jajaja]

I know you were just joking, but other people were not, and it was a good opportunity for me to vent. :p

Hehe ok, just wanted to make sure no one thought i was serious about the comments :)

[Nature Boy]

Should every single post on DP include some disclaimer that the proceeding message is an opinion? I would think that fact is obvious and doesn't need to be pointed out each time.

Not at all. But if you think people are going to ignore your post (which didn't actually address whether or not you think the Wii's success or failure can be predicted based on the DS, and instead graced us with your thoughts on each systems control scheme) you're in for a rough ride.

Without reading the article I think it's safe to say that a handheld's track record can never be used to predict a console's future. They're different markets, aren't they? Sure some people buy both, but what works for one isn't going to work for another. Besides, we're in the middle of the DS's lifetime - how can you comment on it yet anyway?

Having read the article, I think he's a raving lunatic who simply doesn't like either the DS or the Wii. Anytime someone feels they have to start an argument by saying "now I'm not a fanboy or anything" is usually about to go on a fanboy rant anyway.

[theoakwoody]

I think video games have reached such a mainstream acceptance that it doesn't even matter how many units the Wii will sell. It will be successful along with the PS3 and the Xbox. There was a time when there wasn't enough room for even 2 successful systems but now there can be 3 easily. Fanboyism will fade as the number of systems grow.

[veronica_marsfan]

I think video games have reached such a mainstream acceptance that it doesn't even matter how many units the Wii will sell. It will be successful.

I wonder if the same will be true with Bluray and HD-DVD.... it doesn't matter who wins.

[Wolfrider31]

As a former active member of an undergraduate fraternity and current full-time asshole internet ranter, I reserve the right to substitute the word "gay" for any of the following terms:

Weak, bad, shitty, crappy, unfortunate, sub-par, inadequate, frustrating, irritating, below average, etc...

Sorry, but it's in my contract, I'm allowed to do it.


And my nickname is not "wang runner", it is "wanganrunner". The "wangan" is a stretch of highway in the Tokyo area famous for being a night-time testing ground for Japanese shop cars (i.e. Top Secret, Ridox, Waste Sports, etc...). The term was initially made famous by the "Wangan Midnight" manga series. I saw fit to use it as my screen name because, well, I spent some time over there and thought it was a neat scene.

I'm really getting tired of that "gay" = "stupid" nonsense. "I'm not being a bigot, I'm just using a synonym for stupid!" Okay following that logic: That article is a such a nigger. See how uncomfortable that made you? Words have meaning my friend.

Anyway back on topic, I think comparing the Wii to the DS is a viable option, but doing that only leads you to the conclusion that the Wii will be an incredible success. Not only in terms of sheer units sold, but in quality. At the moment, the DS is the best system on the market and in the first year of its life it was almost complete garbage. It took a while, but developers finally got the hang of using the stylus and have been coming out with amazing products. Stuff that we would never expect to see, including the resurrection of the Adventure genre, stuff like Electroplankton, Contact, Elite Beat Agents, etc etc. It's fine to judge the Wii now, but I think things will change in a year or so when developers have got enough time with it.

Keep in mind all launch years are usually garbage. The PS3 sucks right now, and it took the XBox 360 a solid two years before it started to house anything that I wanted to buy. I'm optimistic.

That said, if Nintendo botches this it's the last console I purchase from them.

[jajaja]

I'm really getting tired of that "gay" = "stupid" nonsense. "I'm not being a bigot, I'm just using a synonym for stupid!" Okay following that logic: That article is a such a nigger. See how uncomfortable that made you? Words have meaning my friend.

Words have meaning indeed and in many cases one word can mean many things, "gay" is one of them. Just check up on i.e dictionary.com (www.dictionary.com) and you will see different meanings of the word. It totaly depends in what situation you use the word.

Gay originally didnt mean homosexual. So if its nonsense to say "this article is gay", it would be nonsense to refer to homosexuals as gay too. Words are human made. Every year (or atleast often) new words are made up or already existing words get a new meaning. We decide what the words mean.

[skylark]

Words have meaning indeed and in many cases one word can mean many things, "gay" is one of them. Just check up on i.e dictionary.com (www.dictionary.com) and you will see different meanings of the word. It totaly depends in what situation you use the word.

Gay originally didnt mean homosexual. So if its nonsense to say "this article is gay", it would be nonsense to refer to homosexuals as gay too. Words are human made. Every year (or atleast often) new words are made up or already existing words get a new meaning. We decide what the words mean.

So you wouldn't get offended if someone started using your name as a catch-all derrogative? If you insist on using the word, at least admit what you're doing. It's an insult. Just because it's permissable in this community doesn't make it anything else. The way in which language evolves can be very telling about a society, so ask yourself what it means that part of the identity of millions has come to signify general disgust and disapproval. Meaning doesn't just pop into existence through whim (or choice).

Sorry. I've got nothing to contribute to the thread, but this post annoyed me. I'm sure some pseudo-intellectual response is forthcoming, but I won't derail things any further.

[veronica_marsfan]

I see wolfrider's point. You shouldn't associate negative attributes with any group. These phrases would be NOT acceptable:

- She's steals money like a colored.

- He pinches pennies like a Scotchman.

- He's so stupid, he's gay.

In the process of using phrases like that, you are denigrating & insulting an entire group of people. SHAME on you for doing that. Shame on me as well.

[jajaja]

So you wouldn't get offended if someone started using your name as a catch-all derrogative? If you insist on using the word, at least admit what you're doing. It's an insult. Just because it's permissable in this community doesn't make it anything else. The way in which language evolves can be very telling about a society, so ask yourself what it means that part of the identity of millions has come to signify general disgust and disapproval. Meaning doesn't just pop into existence through whim (or choice).

Is gay a name? I know Gaylord is, but i never heard the name Gay. How is saying "this thread is gay" an insult? Who do you insult? The homosexuals? Altho technically saying gay instead of stupid might indicate that gay people are stupid, but the word "gay" is so much used for different things people dont think about "hey the homosexuals are stupid" when its used. Or you really think that all people who uses the word "gay" look at homosexuals as stupid people?

Its like cursing. When you say damn, fuck or shit, do you literary think about the devil, having sex or a turd everytime you say it? I hardly doubt that, its just an "extension" of the language. Its the same with the word "gay". I seriously doubt anyone think about dissing/discriminating homosexual people when they use that word in situations like the one example that was used in this thread.

Gay also means fun. Havnt you heard the Flitstones theme song? "You’ll have a gay old time" is the last sentence in the song. I wonder if they are discriminating homosexuals here :p So you see my point? The word gay is used, still it has a different meaning.



I'm sure some pseudo-intellectual response is forthcoming.

First you talk about insults and all and then you come with an insult like this yourself?

[theoakwoody]

Sorry. I've got nothing to contribute to the thread...

Thank you for sharing your thoughts because they are so important. Hijacking this thread and turning it into something totally pointless is worse than anything jajaja has said in his previous posts. Maybe you should think about the topic at hand and whether or not you have something to add. If not, then start reading the next topic and so on. It's not that hard to do.

[Wolfrider31]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts because they are so important. Hijacking this thread and turning it into something totally pointless is worse than anything jajaja has said in his previous posts. Maybe you should think about the topic at hand and whether or not you have something to add. If not, then start reading the next topic and so on. It's not that hard to do.

You're right. How dare we bring up how loathsome our society's disdain for homosexuals is. That's not important at all. What were talking about again? Nintendo?

BTW: Where's your commentary on this thread's topic?

[veronica_marsfan]

How is saying "this thread is gay" an insult?

Because you're insulting homosexuals as inferior/stupid.

[FantasiaWHT]

Because you're insulting homosexuals as inferior/stupid.

This thread is fey! Aw crap, I just insulted the fairies.

Outta curiousity, how many people learned "gay" to mean stupid before they new that "gay" was another slang term for a homosexual (and really understanding what a homosexual was). I'm gonna guess almost everybody. Same goes for learning "queer" to mean strange before it meant homosexual.

[djsquarewave]

Outta curiousity, how many people learned "gay" to mean stupid before they new that "gay" was another slang term for a homosexual (and really understanding what a homosexual was). I'm gonna guess almost everybody. Same goes for learning "queer" to mean strange before it meant homosexual.
I actually learned "gay" meant "happy" first. Thank you Flintstones reruns. :D

Those were some gay old times, I must say...

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[jajaja]

Because you're insulting homosexuals as inferior/stupid.

How many people that uses the word "gay" on a daily basis do you think is having in mind to insult homosexual people? Who decide if its an insult or not? Is it really an insult if the intention is something completely different? Do you know any homosexual people who get offended by it?

I'm sure this discussion can go on pretty long so i dont want to go too deep into it. My point is that words can mean many things and the meaning depends on when you use it. Eventho its the same word it doesnt mean the meaning always link to eachother, like if "gay" is another word for stupid, then it doesnt mean that "gay" in this case is refering/linking to homosexuals. I dont use the word "gay" often, but when i do i'm not insulting homosexuals, thats not what i put into it when i use the word "gay". I dont have anything against them.

[theoakwoody]

You're right. How dare we bring up how loathsome our society's disdain for homosexuals is. That's not important at all. What were talking about again? Nintendo?

BTW: Where's your commentary on this thread's topic?

Exactly, couldn't have said it better myself. There's an off topic forum where you can talk about crap like this so we don't have to see it. What does being homosexual have to do with MODERN GAMING? Nothing absolutely nothing. So everytime someone says something you don't agree with you think its your right to waste everyone else's time? Why didn't you just PM the guy if you didn't like what he said. Oh, cause you wanted to raise awareness that homosexuals aren't treated with respect in this country. This is not an appropriate forum to do that. If you have a problem with someone, PM or email them and let them know how you feel.

[koster]

Back on topic, I think the author of that article has his head up his ass (I mean this in a totally non-gay/homosexual way :) )

The article starts out with "I’m no Sony or Microsoft fanboy." To me, that is an indicator that what follows will be fanboy-ish, otherwise why bother with the disclaimer?

I'm eagerly awaiting his companion article entitled "Predicting the Future of the PS3 by Looking at the PSP". Maybe that article will have a quote saying "PS3 console sales didn't pick up until Sony introduced a major price cut, just like they did with the PSP"...

[veronica_marsfan]

Because you're insulting homosexuals as inferior/stupid. How many people that uses the word "gay" on a daily basis do you think is having in mind to insult homosexual people?


When my mother says, "That lady pinches pennies as if she were Scotch or Irish," I'm sure she doesn't mean it as an insult.

Nevertheless it IS insulting to those Scottish/Irish peoples, because it implies they are cheapasses.

It's prejudice.

[jajaja]

When my mother says, "That lady pinches pennies as if she were Scotch or Irish," I'm sure she doesn't mean it as an insult.

Nevertheless it IS insulting to those Scottish/Irish peoples, because it implies they are cheapasses.

It's prejudice.

Well.. it totaly depends on the person. If one scottish person doesnt care about it at all its not an insult. If another scottish person care about it,then it is an insult. But as said, the few times i use the word "gay" i dont mean anything bad about homosexuals. If any homosexual people feel offended and insulted when i use it i want them to tell me so i can explain what i really mean. And if they want me to stop using it i would respect that decition and not use it because i dont want people to feel bad because i say something and my intentions are completely different. So if anyone here feel they have been insulted by something i have said, send me a PM and i will explain what i ment :)

[veronica_marsfan]

...If another scottish person care about it,then it is an insult. But as said, the few times i use the word "gay" i dont mean anything bad about homosexuals. If any homosexual people feel offended and insulted when i use it i want them to tell me so i can explain what i really mean. And if they want me to stop using it i would respect that decition and not use it ..... I recall I once called the Gamecube the "Gaycube".

I got lots of nasty replies from homosexuals who were, indeed, offended by the word. And they were right; I shouldn't have said that.

So I won't go there anymore.

[jajaja]

I recall I once called the Gamecube the "Gaycube".

I got lots of nasty replies from homosexuals who were, indeed, offended by the word.

Serious? Did they really say they were homosexuals? Maybe it was just angry Nintendo fans. As said, i can understand if homosexual people get offended by it and i will respect that of course, but i also think it should a "2 way" thing. I mean, if you said "Gaycube" and some homosexuals got offended by it i would hope they could have understanding that its just a simple joke and that doesnt mean to insult homosexual people. This way both parts can have understanding for eachother.

If every people should be offended by anything bad thats been said it wouldnt go too well :\ Its something complete different if you say "you're fucking gay" to a homosexual person, then its ment to be a direct insult, but with simple jokes like "Gaycube" where the intention might be something completely different, i hope people dont take that "into/near to them" themself (or whats it called) and just ignore it and dont care about it.

[veronica_marsfan]

I mean, if you said "Gaycube" and some homosexuals got offended by it i would hope they could have understanding that its just a simple joke and that doesnt mean to insult homosexual people.

You mean the way African-americans were understanding when Richards/Kramer used the word "nigger" in his comedy routine?

It doesn't work that way jajaja. When you put down a group as inferior, they ARE going to get offended. That includes saying, "This thread is gay (stupid)."

[jajaja]

You mean the way African-americans were understanding when Richards/Kramer used the word "nigger" in his comedy routine?

It doesn't work that way jajaja. When you put down a group as inferior, they ARE going to get offended. That includes saying, "This thread is gay (stupid)."

I said i was hoping, not that it is that way.

The Kramer thingie was directed as a direct insult and that was his intention because he was pissed. My point was when words are used and the intention isnt to insult. Kramer was using phrases something like "if this was 50 years ago you would hang upside down" (KKK used to hang black people so this is probly what he ment), so its clearly that his intentions at that moment was to insult the guy. Kramer also appologized later on. The black guy said "cracker ass" and "fucking white boy", also insults. Dont know if he appologized, buy maybe.

But anyway, i've said my opinion about this discussion. Agree or not, i respect both.

[zerohero]

Like I said a long time ago, is the wii mote a gimic or not. So far so good.