So... the Ebay pulled my auction thread

[RugalSizzler]

The thing is Ebay constantly changes rules and sometimes try to use small reason to attack users of there auction system. The truth is Ebay use this system against people who are being smart with there system.

In my case I charge really high shipping with 0.01 cent and then Ebay pulled my auction. People have told me that hey you your auction was only pulled since somebody decided to be a "taddle tale" and make an attempt to use ebay rules against you.

I have charged high shipping on my auctions since I started selling. Nobdoy had a problem with the prices. This particullar auction was going for 24.99 which I downgraded from 29.99 and before 27.99. Now the thing is Ebay decided to pulle my auction right before the last day and what I believe is that it was not because somebody reported it but that I decided to put I take "Money Order" and "Personal Checks" so I am guessing since Ebay can magically see that if the bidder is using paypal and they bid on the item

I am really ticked off about this since I am now at "work" while I am typing and have to hear this.

What I want to do is open a counter Ebay website that follows the old school ebay rules but allows people to charge whatever shipping that is mentioned in the auction.

I am planning to relist my orginal item but I will now have to setup a proffesional looking auction chart when I do with my original shipping.

Why is my shipping high? Well it cost money for the materials, transportation,

Also the shipping is what the game is commonly selling for via ebay prices and since your not dumb and you are a Ebay member it should be that easy to say well compared to that other seller....Hmmm.

:2gunfire: One of my ways to attack ebay on this policy is that I say that we all put up auctions with high shipping and just high enough to get a refund on our lowered listing.

This method is much better then doing :argue: with the charlie ebay employee who I have no problems with. Still most of the times they just gie links then real answers.

What makes this worst they completely erased any info of my past sales.

If you are not alone in your ebay quest please post something about it. I am going back to "work" now.

[JerseyDevil65]

E-Bay hates when people steal money from them, they are funny that way.

[Griking]

The thing is Ebay constantly changes rules and sometimes try to use small reason to attack users of there auction system.

Yeah, cause in reality eBay really doesn't want people to use their service.


The truth is Ebay use this system against people who are being smart with there system.

...or people who try to take advantage of it.


In my case I charge really high shipping with 0.01 cent and then Ebay pulled my auction.

:hmm: imagine that.


I have charged high shipping on my auctions since I started selling. Nobdoy had a problem with the prices.

Yeah, because people absolutely LOVE paying ridiculous amounts to ship small items. What's your feedback look like?


This particullar auction was going for 24.99 which I downgraded from 29.99 and before 27.99. Now the thing is Ebay decided to pulle my auction right before the last day and what I believe is that it was not because somebody reported it but that I decided to put I take "Money Order" and "Personal Checks" so I am guessing since Ebay can magically see that if the bidder is using paypal and they bid on the item

As far as I know money orders and checks are still legal ways to pay for an auction. it was probably pulled because of what you were charging for shipping.


Why is my shipping high? Well it cost money for the materials, transportation,

Also the shipping is what the game is commonly selling for via ebay prices and since your not dumb and you are a Ebay member it should be that easy to say well compared to that other seller....Hmmm.

In case you just don't understand, eBay makes their money based on what your item sells for NOT including shipping. therefore when you pull scams like this to avoid paying fees (and you know that's exactly what you're trying to do) eBay makes less money and obviously doesn't like it. Imagine that.


:2gunfire: One of my ways to attack ebay on this policy is that I say that we all put up auctions with high shipping and just high enough to get a refund on our lowered listing.

How about you keep doing it and I'll just watch and laugh when your account gets suspended?

Look, I don't like paying fees any more than anyone else does but these are the rules. Our options are; obey them and suck it up, quit eBay altogether and try another service or completely ignore the rules and hope we're not caught. In this care you were unfortunately caught. you knew what the rules were, you broke them and you were caught. Suck it up, take it like a man and be thankful that your account wasn't suspended.

[RugalSizzler]

...or people who try to take advantage of it.

Well that is what you do with a service. You do not let it take advantage of you. If I went to a resteraunt and they told me that hey we are not going to give you food but crap would you rather take the crap.



:hmm: imagine that.


The thing is I have been doing this a long time and nobdoy has complained at all. My items are in the same condition as the picture.



Yeah, because people absolutely LOVE paying ridiculous amounts to ship small items. What's your feedback look like?


I care more about the buyers/eller then the I care about the service. The service should just take what is given ( which is a hefty amount ) and not try to get more then they want.



In case you just don't understand, eBay makes their money based on what your item sells for NOT including shipping. therefore when you pull scams like this to avoid paying fees (and you know that's exactly what you're trying to do) eBay makes less money and obviously doesn't like it. Imagine that.


It is not a scam. A scam is when somebody is trying to sell you something and then :oops: no item or :oops: item broken sorry no refund then again :oops: person with no feedback makes an account and then speeds off into the night with my money via paypal that is less then ten dollars and Ebay/Paypal does not want to refund my money.

Ebay is a scam. They raised there rates recently like twice. The scam is that you pay there fees then you pay paypal fees leaving you with barely what you wanted to get. All I am doing is providing the buyer with a nice comfy price so that I do not have to let the fees off them.

I call it profitable negotiations. Where both seller and buyer get what they want and nobody is being let down. Even without me in the system Ebay still makes it share.



How about you keep doing it and I'll just watch and laugh when your account gets suspended?

Selling stuff is my only source of income besides the other work I do which is based on a when and where scale. I am not going to go into it but that is how I get my share of capitalism.


Look, I don't like paying fees any more than anyone else does but these are the rules. Our options are; obey them and suck it up, quit eBay altogether and try another service or completely ignore the rules and hope we're not caught. In this care you were unfortunately caught. you knew what the rules were, you broke them and you were caught. Suck it up, take it like a man and be thankful that your account wasn't suspended.
[/QUOTE]

I am not ingnoring the rules. Many people do this and is still doing it all over the place. The truth is somebody who disliked me for my past actions ( which is many people ) probably was watching my auction saw people bidding on it and decided to write something to get my auction pulled or Ebay perk see that I put "Money Order" or "Personal Check" and they said Oh Noes!! our money.

In life if we stick together then no force can stop us not even the god of gods. However people decide to use the so called man rules against us feeling that they have done justice when no justice has been done.


Person was watching my auction saw people bidding on it and decided to write something to get my auction pulled or Ebay perk see that I put "Money Order" or "Personal Check" and they said Oh Noes!! our money.


Like in a restaraunt the manager tells the employees to save the unused condoments to save money. In this case I am just a co-manager of Ebay following there manager rules while the big boss is sitting in a pool somewhere with one of my schoolmates.

In fact the people who own Ebay now don't even need Ebay at all.
I am going to sleep now-_-

[Griking]

Well that is what you do with a service. You do not let it take advantage of you. If I went to a resteraunt and they told me that hey we are not going to give you food but crap would you rather take the crap.

No, I'd go to a different restaurant. I wouldn't however have the authority to tell the owner that he needed to change his policy to suit me. It's eBay's site. They make the rules there. Sell on Yahoo or somewheres else if you don't like them.



I care more about the buyers/eller then the I care about the service. The service should just take what is given ( which is a hefty amount ) and not try to get more then they want.

Again, eBay site. eBay's rules.


It is not a scam. A scam is when somebody is trying to sell you something and then :oops: no item or :oops: item broken sorry no refund then again :oops: person with no feedback makes an account and then speeds off into the night with my money via paypal that is less then ten dollars and Ebay/Paypal does not want to refund my money.

Those are examples of a seller scamming a buyer. What YOU do is an example of a seller scamming eBay.


Ebay is a scam. They raised there rates recently like twice. The scam is that you pay there fees then you pay paypal fees leaving you with barely what you wanted to get. All I am doing is providing the buyer with a nice comfy price so that I do not have to let the fees off them.

Who's forcing you to use eBay?


I am not ingnoring the rules. Many people do this and is still doing it all over the place.

Of course you're ignoring the rules. there's a specific rule about fee avoidance. And just because others do it doesn't mean it isn't a rule any longer. eBay is cracking down on this abuse moreso than they did in the past. This is probably why you got away with it as long as you have but got caught now.


Like in a restaraunt the manager tells the employees to save the unused condoments to save money. In this case I am just a co-manager of Ebay following there manager rules while the big boss is sitting in a pool somewhere with one of my schoolmates.

If you owned a restaurant and tried to re-use condiments then another boss (the health department) would be knocking on your door instead of eBay.

Again, I feel for you. I agree that the fees keep going up and up but the rules are the rules. And on a personal note, I really hate auctions where sellers try to profit off of shipping and handling.

[badinsults]

So, you are one of those assholes. I am surprised you have the balls to admit that you are one of those scammers who appear to sell something cheap, and have an outrageous shipping cost. If that isn't the definition of a scam, I don't know what is. Think about this from a buyer's perspective, and you will realize why your auctions got pulled.

[wallydawg]

Reminds me of a Psychic Killer Taromaru auction I once saw. Shipping was the low, low, price of $200

[TheTrench]

Ebay stole my money on that 20 cent auction day. Some of my items listed got 7 views total. My page wasn't working for most of the time as well. What a ripoff I paid to list everything. Now I relisted them and auctions that got 7 views have been getting 200. Funny stuff ebay.

[swlovinist]

I suggest either

1. Deal with it

2. Use craigslist

whatever one you choose, you wont find sympathy here

[Kitsune Sniper]

So, you are one of those assholes. I am surprised you have the balls to admit that you are one of those scammers who appear to sell something cheap, and have an outrageous shipping cost. If that isn't the definition of a scam, I don't know what is. Think about this from a buyer's perspective, and you will realize why your auctions got pulled.

Here here.

A CD does not cost ten bucks to ship. And a book does not cost six bucks to ship, at least not with Book Rate. Fuck you very much. (To the OP, not to Evan_G.)


Ebay stole my money on that 20 cent auction day. Some of my items listed got 7 views total. My page wasn't working for most of the time as well. What a ripoff I paid to list everything. Now I relisted them and auctions that got 7 views have been getting 200. Funny stuff ebay.

That's funny, I got more page views that week than usual. o_o

[RickHarrisMaine]

[QUOTE=Kitsune Sniper;1178615]Here here.

A CD does not cost ten bucks to ship. And a book does not cost six bucks to ship, at least not with Book Rate. Fuck you very much. (To the OP, not to Evan_G.)


Pardon me, but does it cost $26 to ship these Odyssey 2 carts to Portland Maine via Parcel Post? I can't imagine it costs THAT much......

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-of-27-Odyssey-2-O2-games-6-boxed-w-manuals-rare_W0QQitemZ320109947572QQihZ011QQcategoryZ4315Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[vaportransmitter]

A rule is a rule no matter who breaks it, when they break it, or how long they broke it. Inflated shipping is almost a big a problem as pirated DVDs on eBay. Jeez.

No sympathy here.

Boo to you and your eBay scams.

[DreamTR]

Rugal: You are completely circumventing the fees ,which is against eBay rules.

If you want to mask your stuff with shipping/handling, you have to make sure it's fair. I charge $5 to ship a DVD or CD game, I charge $4 to ship a cart game. I use delivery confirmation, bubble mailer, etc. That covers my materials, time, etc. This way I don't go out of business, and I am not ripping anyone off either.

No one is going to have sympathy for someone trying to charge $10 to ship a DVD, that's bogus.

[Vinnysdad]

So, you are one of those assholes. I am surprised you have the balls to admit that you are one of those scammers who appear to sell something cheap, and have an outrageous shipping cost. If that isn't the definition of a scam, I don't know what is. Think about this from a buyer's perspective, and you will realize why your auctions got pulled.


I agree. I hate it when sellers try to burn you on shipping. I just move on to something else instead of dealing with a scammer like the OP.

[Kitsune Sniper]

Pardon me, but does it cost $26 to ship these Odyssey 2 carts to Portland Maine via Parcel Post? I can't imagine it costs THAT much......

http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-of-27-Odyssey-2-O2-games-6-boxed-w-manuals-rare_W0QQitemZ320109947572QQihZ011QQcategoryZ4315Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Two things.
One, my post office will not allow me to ship anything via Media Mail. This has never been a shipping option for me. They say people abuse the system and won't let anyone ship items that way without inspecting them first.

Two, even though my postage rates seem high, I GIVE REFUNDS ON EXCESS POSTAGE. If it turns out to be $15 instead of $26, I refund the extra $11. I always do that. ALWAYS.

If you have concerns with the cost of shipping an item, you can always contact me and ask for an explanation. I have had buyers from foreign countries ask me why things sometimes cost so much to ship, and I happily explain things to them. I break down the cost of shipping an item, and they often understand my reasons.

I do not sell on eBay to get money through the shipping costs. I sell on eBay to profit from sales, not from the shipping.

Edit:
See this? (http://postcalc.usps.gov/speed.asp?Country=Domestic&CountryIndex=0&MT=3&M=0&P=6&O=0&OZ=92231&DZ=04101) This is the cost of shipping a six pound package via Parcel Post from Calexico, California to Portland, Maine. It's a Large Package and has a heftier shipping cost. The extra three bucks are to cover the cost of the box to ship the items in. (And if you meant Portland, Oregon, it's half that (http://postcalc.usps.gov/speed.asp?Country=Domestic&CountryIndex=0&MT=3&M=0&P=6&O=0&OZ=92231&DZ=97201).)

I can prove why my shipping costs are often so high. It's not my fault you live in the OTHER SIDE OF THE DAMN COUNTRY! :P

[RickHarrisMaine]

Now that's odd indeed.....

This is what it costs me to ship a 6 pound package from Portland Maine to Calexico, CA.

http://postcalc.usps.gov/speed.asp?Country=Domestic&CountryIndex=1&MT
=2&M=0&P=6&O=0&OZ=04102&DZ=92231&origin=default

It only costs 12 bucks. I understand that you've figured it as a large package, but believe me, it isn't. 26 loose carts and a few boxed ones can all easily fit in a photocopy paper box. That isn't a large package at all, and if your post office is telling you it is, you're being cheated my friend.....

Incidentally, Maine is truly a beautiful place, and Portland is one of the nicest small cities you'll ever see. Actually very similar to Monterey....you should come out sometime!

And I'm not some homer who says Gary, Indiana is really a nice place when we all know its a pit....Portland really IS nice!!!!

[Kitsune Sniper]

Now that's odd indeed.....

This is what it costs me to ship a 6 pound package from Portland Maine to Calexico, CA.

http://postcalc.usps.gov/speed.asp?Country=Domestic&CountryIndex=1&MT
=2&M=0&P=6&O=0&OZ=04102&DZ=92231&origin=default

It only costs 12 bucks. I understand that you've figured it as a large package, but believe me, it isn't. 26 loose carts and a few boxed ones can all easily fit in a photocopy paper box. That isn't a large package at all, and if your post office is telling you it is, you're being cheated my friend.....

Incidentally, Maine is truly a beautiful place, and Portland is one of the nicest small cities you'll ever see. Actually very similar to Monterey....you should come out sometime!

And I'm not some homer who says Gary, Indiana is really a nice place when we all know its a pit....Portland really IS nice!!!!

Well, it depends. I admit that I'm -guessing- I need a large box. And the clerks there measure the size of the box and enter it into their computers. If it says it's a large box, then they use Large Package shipping rates. If it turns out to not be big enough for that shipping rate, then the buyer gets a refund.

Hope that cleared things up, then!

Edit:
Oh, I don't think I could stand Maine... it's too cold for me. I live waaaaaaaaay in the bottom of Southern California (I actually live in Mexico, but ship from Calexico!), and I'm used to a very warm climate. Anything under 80 degrees? That's freezing to me. Aheh. >_>''

[RickHarrisMaine]

Funny. Anytime it gets over 80 degrees here in Maine (a lot more than you think, actually) I'm miserable. Now 20 degrees or so, that's great, 30-50, nice, and 60-70 is just perfect! Anything over that and I'm just hating life....

That said, a little sun in Mexico-area wouldn't be a bad place to visit....just couldn't live there....at least its dry where you are!

[Griking]

LOL

So eBay pulled one of my auctions today as well

I put up around 16 auctions for various games. I've been using the same template for ages that states my terms and stuff. So this morning I get an email telling me that one of them has been pulled because my terms state that i will accept cash payments.

I've been selling for years now and every now and then if I sell an item that's inexpensive a buyer will throw cash in an envelope rather than pay for a money order. Hell, I've done it myself before. So now you can't pay with cash. LOL, is it even legal for them to say that you can't pay for something with cash? It's like national currency. It can't be that it's untrackable because it's no less trackable than a check or money order is. Whatever.

I also can't figure out why the other 15 of my auctions that use the exact same template were allowed to continue. Again, whatever.

[RugalSizzler]

I agree. I hate it when sellers try to burn you on shipping. I just move on to something else instead of dealing with a scammer like the OP.

So I am hurting the buyer when they decide to bid on my auction which they obviously have there own mind made up on what they want and they can clearly see the price.

I am not mailing after the auction "I meant the shipping was in euros. please pay double the amount stated" or something like that I selling fairly.

Or demanding a hidden fee or anything like that. I am within fair grounds of the auction.


Who's forcing you to use eBay?


Well I use ebay as a tool.

[Hep038]

What if you wanted to pick the item up? is Ebay saying you cannot use cash?
stupid.

"What I want to do is open a counter Ebay website that follows the old school ebay rules but allows people to charge whatever shipping that is mentioned in the auction."

And what will you do when people start finding a way to get out of paying your fees? Will you ban them? Or just keep doing business until you got bankrupt?

[fishsandwich]

If you are not alone in your ebay quest please post something about it. I am going back to "work" now.

You SUCK.



My own story for you other folk (the non-thieves)

I listed Zero Gunner 2 for the Dreamcast. It was pulled because it was an import. What the hell?

And RugalSizzler... I started the auction at $5 with a $2 shipping fee (which is close to the actual shipping fee.) I charge a little extra for envelopes and bubble wrap. Maybe you should try something like that instead of being an dickhead.

[Kitsune Sniper]

I listed Zero Gunner 2 for the Dreamcast. It was pulled because it was an import. What the hell?

Wait.

What? o_O

Did you mention you could run the game using some sort of boot disk? They don't want anyone mentioning game enhancers that allow people to use pirate disks or anything. They're quite picky about that. Even mentioning them sets off an alarm.

[RugalSizzler]

And what will you do when people start finding a way to get out of paying your fees? Will you ban them? Or just keep doing business until you got bankrupt?

I just want to counter ebay like with a counter Gamefaqs site. I do not care about the money just to prove a point.

If it was successful two things would occur. Ebay would try and other network stores would try and pawn my system.

Somebody would try and buy it out for petty cash.

If we get enough sellers then we could affect there position on there policies.

[Bassgrabber]

RugalSizzler, perhaps if you were to POST A LINK TO ONE OF YOUR AUCTIONS we might have a better understanding of what you are trying (and failing) to express.

So far I agree with the general concensus that you are using inflated shipping costs to circumvent payment of eBay fees, which you agreed to pay by using their service. In plain English, you are stealing.

Post a link to one of your auctions and perhaps we'll see it differently.

[udisi]

on a side note...Holy Crap!... Calexico is a real place?!?!, I always thought that was just some kinda joke people along the border called a border town. I had to wiki it. Man, here I am, I have a BS in Gegography and I didn't know this place actually existed.

[Buyatari]

I think the poster started made up this thread to start a big stink and sit back and laugh. He is just pulling your chain. No way is he serious.

If he is serious than there is nothing you can say to help this guy anyway.

[Bassgrabber]

Buyatari, you may be correct. He may be a TROLL.

But why not see if he's for real, and give hima chance to put up a link for one of his auctions.

[norkusa]

I put up around 16 auctions for various games. I've been using the same template for ages that states my terms and stuff. So this morning I get an email telling me that one of them has been pulled because my terms state that i will accept cash payments.

WTF?!? Ebay is starting to turn into the Sony of the online auction business. They think the can pull any crap they want just because they are the biggest one around. Wait a sec...they've already been doing that for years.

I can't wait for the day when Google starts an online auction service.

[Kitsune Sniper]

on a side note...Holy Crap!... Calexico is a real place?!?!, I always thought that was just some kinda joke people along the border called a border town. I had to wiki it. Man, here I am, I have a BS in Gegography and I didn't know this place actually existed.

Another off-topic post... I live in Mexicali. Yeah, we're all weird down here! :) We've been around for almost a hundred years, and I like both my hometowns... even if most businesses close after 8 PM. :p

[Ed Oscuro]

WTF?!? Ebay is starting to turn into the Sony of the online auction business. They think the can pull any crap they want just because they are the biggest one around. Wait a sec...they've already been doing that for years.

I can't wait for the day when Google starts an online auction service.
Whatever Google does, Wikipedia will do next, with less automation and more user consensus.

Pretty soon it'll be "well I have ten editors agreeing with me that you owe me some money...PAY UP KIDDO"

[ryborg]

I think the poster started made up this thread to start a big stink and sit back and laugh. He is just pulling your chain. No way is he serious.

That's why I've stayed out of this thread. I have nothing positive to say about anything the OP said. That, and Griking did a great job going down the line, contering his every point.


I can't wait for the day when Google starts an online auction service.

I too wish for that day, but the only other similar site that's even done reasonable business has been Amazon. Everyone thought Yahoo Auctions was going to be a serious ebay competitor many years ago, but they flamed out almost immediately. Hopefully Google can get a good system going and steal some of ebay's buyers.

[RugalSizzler]

RugalSizzler, perhaps if you were to POST A LINK TO ONE OF YOUR AUCTIONS we might have a better understanding of what you are trying (and failing) to express.

Alot of people know what I am going threw. If they were on ground level business aspect rather then joe average then I would get more support.

:2gunfire: They erased everything so I can't find any of my past auctions.:texaschain:



WTF?!? Ebay is starting to turn into the Sony of the online auction business.

On that topic. If you do sell anything threw Paypal do not put PS3 or Sony in your sale . They have tried to bann and suspend peoples Paypal for this.
Remember Ebay owns Paypal also. I have not yet checked out google checkout yet it is probably better.

Also if you live in China and you use Yahoo they ( the people running things ) read your mail. If forget which other ones do this also.

About the PS3 the fact earlier when they released it people who had the money basically auction off the PS3 the moment they had it.

[Kitsune Sniper]

On that topic. If you do sell anything threw Paypal do not put PS3 or Sony in your sale . They have tried to bann and suspend peoples Paypal for this.
Remember Ebay owns Paypal also. I have not yet checked out google checkout yet it is probably better.

Uh, if you put Sony and PS3 on your item's title or description, and it's got nothing to do with that, that's KEYWORD SPAMMING.

Also, Google Checkout is forbidden in eBay. I bet you can guess why.

[RugalSizzler]

Well I just decided to retaliate against Ebay. I have not researched how to implement a auction like page but I have decided to put up a front taking advantage of my Yahoo! privileges.

CLICK HERE FOR MY SHINEY NEW 15MB WEBSITE (http://www.geocities.com/regalsin2020/Store0234.html)

I would have done a better job but I just wanted to get this done fast enough. So I took a night off to finish this. It is nothing really just something I banged togther from a couple of projects I have on hold.

When I get more "funding" I am going to get a seperate phone line so all you people can leave remarks on mini tape so I can go to the nice judge down the old south street there yonder and chat.

Then later some Gigabyte storage so we can share files and I will make my own everybody forum with vbullet and we can chat in FM sound. I will put up a webcam and you can see my view I see while I work. We will have all kinds of sections for all kinds of people. Donation bins for everybody!!



RugalSizzler, perhaps if you were to POST A LINK TO ONE OF YOUR AUCTIONS

My Ebay name is in the title of the stand I put up. Just do a search and you will see what I was doing last year and the year before that on the internet. Then like somebody else mentioned you will too will be laughing off feat.

I am going to put my auction back up again later when I get a chance. I have to get some rest-_-

[Vectorman0]

lol...

[ryborg]

CLICK HERE FOR MY SHINEY NEW 15MB WEBSITE

Oh my.


When I get more "funding" I am going to get a seperate phone line so all you people can leave remarks on mini tape so I can go to the nice judge down the old south street there yonder and chat.

What

[Captain Wrong]

The word is THROUGH not THREW. Ban has one N not two. No quotes around funding and I'd suggest if you get more funding investing in a refresher course in written English, at least if you expect anyone to take that site seriously.

Also, sellers like you are one of the reasons I don't go to eBay much anymore. Sorry, I refuse to play your little game of circumventing seller fees by jacking up shipping. Good luck with your site though. Keep raging against the machine, mang.

[Flack]

(Sound of police sirens. Car pulls over.)

"Do you know why I pulled you over?"

"No, I do not."

"Well, you were speeding."

"Well, I speed here every day and I never got a ticket before, so too bad."

"Huh?"

"YOU ARE TEH SONY OF THE LAW ENFORCEMENT WORLD!"

Bang.

[Griking]

CLICK HERE FOR MY SHINEY NEW 15MB WEBSITE (http://www.geocities.com/regalsin2020/Store0234.html)

Oh. My. Goodness.

Those prices ROFL

I hope your aren't planning on feeding your family on the revenue that you plan to make off this store.

[Kid Ice]

This is hands down the best thread since Everything Ebay started.

[ckendal]

This is hands down the best thread since Everything Ebay started.

Seconded!

So back to the top it goes...

[MarioMania]

What's his Ebay name

[boatofcar]

Seriously.

Best. Ebay. Thread Ever.

[kainemaxwell]

Ever find an cart only auction for a game that's maybe $2 total, with shipping being $12? I did, so I reported it.

[mb7241]

Hm...


Welcome To Our Fantasy Store

Anyone else find this funny?

[gum_drops]

This thread reminds me of an ebay seller . . . xldeals, who lists games cheap and then charges 8.99 to ship. Try and find the listed shipping in his auction below, what an ass.

Auction here (http://cgi.ebay.com/WWF-Attitude-SEGE-Dreamcast-WRESTLING-GAME-STONE-COLD_W0QQitemZ140114053473QQihZ004QQcategoryZ62053 QQcmdZViewItem)

[bangtango]

Oh. My. Goodness.

Those prices ROFL

I hope your aren't planning on feeding your family on the revenue that you plan to make off this store.

Sure he can. If he takes them to the Sizzler.

[ryborg]

What's his Ebay name

He told us himself.

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=regalsin2020&&ftab=FeedbackAsSeller&sspagename=VIP:feedback:2:us&iid=200085700410

[gum_drops]

Two things.
One, my post office will not allow me to ship anything via Media Mail. This has never been a shipping option for me. They say people abuse the system and won't let anyone ship items that way without inspecting them first.


They dont consider cart or cd games media mail at your PO?

Have you tried printing paypal shipping labels and tossing them in a drop box or your mailbox. I always do that with packages and I have never recieved a warning about sending ineligable items media mail.

[smork]

It calm the Fantasy Store min

[smork]

Seriously, this shit is pure comedy gold. If it were early April i'd be taking bets as to which mod is behind the posting.

Hell, I didn't even know Geocities was still around! I had a page with them, back in 1995 or so. Making me all nostalgic..... Maybe I should make a new page selling some of my items!

*****
Smork's Reality Store
Minesweeper -- Retro Gaming Classic! (B) - $45
Scorched Earth - $30 (Yes, I know it's shareware, but the game is GRATE! You get a genuwine 5.25' FLOPPY, which are OOP!!!)
Hangman - $25. Not a computer game, but a record of my legendary battles with my sister from 4th grade. One of a kind, and IMPOSSIBLE to find anymore!

Look for my future sales -- I've got lot's of "well loved" toys and eletronics you just can't find anymore. I will also be listing all my CLASSIC K-Tel and Chipmunk records!

Remember, everything you by from Smork's Reality Store helps us take down those FASHISTS at EBAY!!!!

********
You think it's golden, or what?

[raregamergirl]

Regal sin is a rather famous "internet personality". It's an act. This is NOT for real. Go search the web for more about regalsin. Especially CAG. Some rather classic threads. Good for a joke, but dont take it seriously.

[fishsandwich]

Regal sin is a rather famous "internet personality". It's an act. This is NOT for real. Go search the web for more about regalsin. Especially CAG. Some rather classic threads. Good for a joke, but dont take it seriously.

Raregamergil, you and RugalSizzler should go into business together. You've both got deceptive and/or dishonest selling practices... if you can teach him your method of ONLY leaving negative feedback for your buyers then you two might make one HELL of a team.

[RugalSizzler]

deceptive and/or dishonest selling practices... if you can teach him your method of ONLY leaving negative feedback for your buyers.

It is called "bussiness" and in bussiness there is some things we have to do to make an honest buck in this dishonest world. I don't see why anybody has a problem with saving money here and there.

[Kitsune Sniper]

They dont consider cart or cd games media mail at your PO?

Have you tried printing paypal shipping labels and tossing them in a drop box or your mailbox. I always do that with packages and I have never recieved a warning about sending ineligable items media mail.

I can't use PayPal postage because I don't have a printer. And in their opinion, video games, computer games, and game carts do NOT qualify for media mail. We've had that discussion lots of times there, so I just gave up.

Also, they don't care. They will not allow me to ship anything that is not a video tape, or recordable CD/DVDs, via media mail. Of course this screws me over big time because Book Rate is going to be phased out starting monday, and they won't let me ship stuff via Book Rate anymore.

I hate them, can you tell?

[raregamergirl]

Not going to go off topic. No need to do so.

Personally, I think it is wrong to overcharge grossly on shipping- even if it is to stick it to ebay. For a single game, anything over $7 is REALLY pushing it. Ebay SHOULD have some sort of rules against procedures such as that. In the near future, I could see them going the way of amazon shipping where a seller will recieve an X dollar shipping credit depending on the item. The only way they could do that, though, and have it work would be to force paypal as the only payment option. Still waiting on them to do that (HOPEFULLY it never happens, but I guess we will have to wait and see).

As has been stated before, if google can make a decent checkout option, why not a decent ebay/ amazon alternative? Google has the name recognition and the checkout method already. They have plenty of $$$ to put into research to figure out how to work everything perfectly as well.

[Vectorman0]

Not going to go off topic. No need to do so.

Personally, I think it is wrong to overcharge grossly on shipping- even if it is to stick it to ebay. For a single game, anything over $7 is REALLY pushing it. Ebay SHOULD have some sort of rules against procedures such as that. In the near future, I could see them going the way of amazon shipping where a seller will recieve an X dollar shipping credit depending on the item. The only way they could do that, though, and have it work would be to force paypal as the only payment option. Still waiting on them to do that (HOPEFULLY it never happens, but I guess we will have to wait and see).

As has been stated before, if google can make a decent checkout option, why not a decent ebay/ amazon alternative? Google has the name recognition and the checkout method already. They have plenty of $$$ to put into research to figure out how to work everything perfectly as well.
There is a rule against crazy shipping prices, and that is why his auctions were pulled. Not only does the rule protect ebay, but in this case it can actually protect unsuspecting buyers.

[RugalSizzler]

There is a rule against crazy shipping prices, and that is why his auctions were pulled. Not only does the rule protect ebay, but in this case it can actually protect unsuspecting buyers.

How is my shipping prices crazy when the people who are bidding is bidding below the 0.99 cent zone?

It is not like a super duper buyer comes along every so often and bids a fair $100 and just luckly somebody decides to bid on my stuff to jack up the prices.

Ebay gets the fee paid and everybody goes home with what they want. I get my fair share and the buyer who obviously have no problem bidding on my item gets there item and ebay gets my .20 cents. OH NOEES!! ebay could have gotten more and they might have to shut down since they mever got my 2.04 dollars that they still get threw me using paypal.

[fishsandwich]

It is called "bussiness" and in bussiness there is some things we have to do to make an honest buck in this dishonest world. I don't see why anybody has a problem with saving money here and there.

No, it's called "BUSINESS" not bussiness you tool. In your case it's a *dishonest* buck made in *your own* little world. It's also known as "scamming" and "shady" business. Again, that's BUSINESS. Tard.

[fishsandwich]

Personally, I think it is wrong to overcharge grossly on shipping

But you don't think it's wrong to use grossly deceptive descriptions when you list items, badger buyers who leave you well-deserved negative feedback, and leave *shitloads* of negative feedback while leaving very little positive feedback? Personally, I think it is wrong for you to post replies on threads regarding what constitutes good and honest business practices.

[raregamergirl]

You must be kidding me. Do YOU own game stores? Do YOU have sales totalling about a million dollars a year between ebay and amazon? I think I know how to run a business QUITE well. Once you try and run a business, THEN you can have an opinion that means anything. As for this feedback, you must be bonkers. I have several ebay screennames with all but 2 having 100 percent positive feedback (oh and ALL of them have over 1000 feedback). Then amazon which is nearly perfect (something virtually impossible to do).

[boatofcar]

You must be kidding me. Do YOU own game stores? Do YOU have sales totalling about a million dollars a year between ebay and amazon? I think I know how to run a business QUITE well. Once you try and run a business, THEN you can have an opinion that means anything. As for this feedback, you must be bonkers. I have several ebay screennames with all but 2 having 100 percent positive feedback (oh and ALL of them have over 1000 feedback). Then amazon which is nearly perfect (something virtually impossible to do).

:roll:

You're way too cool for this board. Why don't you go visit another?

[raregamergirl]

Well, lets see. Last I checked, this was a forum pertaining to classic video game collecting. The best on the web pertaining to different systems. Last I checked, I have QUITE the collection. I sure do WONDER why I would go to a forum on something I collect and put a lot of time and money into.

[jbholio]

if you can teach him your method of ONLY leaving negative feedback for your buyers then you two might make one HELL of a team.

Good point! I just checked raregamergirl's feedback and I hate sellers like these. Pretty quick to leave negatives, but never has time to leave positive feedback. brad55317 just left a neutral because he was screwed on shipping... I bet he'll reveive a negative even if he paid quickly. In fact, raregamergirl feedback if not really 98.4% positive because of all mutually withdrawn feedback due to negative that the buyer probably didn't deserve. Another seller added to my "not to buy from" list.

[Vinnysdad]

Wow this thread keeps getting better and better. I like how one scammer came to the defense of the other scammer. LOL I guess they stick together.

[ryborg]

In fact, raregamergirl feedback if not really 98.4% positive because of all mutually withdrawn feedback due to negative that the buyer probably didn't deserve.

Don't forget about the slew of "feedback auctions" he/she/it won in Feb. That's gotta be worth at least another ~1%.

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&ftab=FeedbackLeftForOthers&userid=raregamergirl&iid=-1&de=off&items=25&page=2

This thread is amazing!

[raregamergirl]

Boy you SURE ARE funny. That was no more than 50. I think it was a lot less. 40 out of 12000 is actually 0.003 percent and doesnt even come close to the percent of 1 negative feedback (the corrolation at 98.4 percent means 1 negative per 72 positive feedback or so. Perhaps you should do a bit more research next time? To raise your feedback .1 percent at 10,000+ you actually need nearly 1000 positive feedback.

Also, I dont sell on that account really at all any more. The ONLY reason I bought those was to use it as a buyers account. I sell a few items but very few on that account. I use it as a buyers account.

Also, the funny thing about that neutral I just got is that the item was sent priority. Have the receipt right in front of me. Already emailed the buyer a picture of the receipt.

I am done with posting in this thread. Its ridiculous. I have very impressive feedback. I have 100 percent feedback on most of my accounts. Anyone who wants to hate is free to do so. If you think that any big time seller on ebay is not going to leave negative for a user who leaves them negative without attempting to resolve an issue first, then you are seriously crazy. Guess you cant go near any of the big time sellers.

[Vectorman0]

Boy you SURE ARE funny. That was no more than 50. I think it was a lot less. 40 out of 12000 is actually 0.003 percent and doesnt even come close to the percent of negative feedback. Perhaps you should do a bit more research next time? To raise your feedback .1 percent at 10,000+ you actually need nearly 1000 positive feedback.


40 out of 12000 is actually 0.333 percent

To raise your feedback .1 percent at 10,000 you actually need 10 positive feedbacks

[raregamergirl]

so you are telling me if I go get 10 feedback, my feedback will raise from 98.4 to 98.5? No it will not. It takes about 1000 feedback. check the math if you dont believe me.

also,my math was correct if going by business numerical terms (a percent is not a whole already, you generally go by 1.00 and not via 100.0). If you go by 40 out of 12000 via out of 100 percent, it is 0.3333. if you go out of 1.000, its actually 0.003333. I was also rounding down (I did that in my head but if you want to be technical its 3.333 (-3) ∞

[fishsandwich]

I am done with posting in this thread. Its ridiculous.

I thought you were "done with posting on this thread." If you are serious about your own words and are truly done then SHUT THE HELL UP. And while you're at it, STOP EDITING YOUR POSTS. Say what you mean and then stick by it. Constant editing makes you look even more dishonest than you already are.

Just stay away from threads that deal with honesty and good business practices. I'm sure you have a lot of valuable information and insights to add to classic gaming, but honesty is a trait that eludes you on so many levels.

Now stick to your own words and stop posting on this thread.

[raregamergirl]

The ONLY things I edited were to ADD things. Not once did I edit any of the messages. I ONLY added things to the messages. I just edited the above message as I did it on a calculator as I knew my original math was correct. I now see he was doing 40/12000 out of 100.00. I was doing it out of 1.00.

[fishsandwich]

The ONLY things I edited were to ADD things. Not once did I edit any of the messages. I ONLY added things to the messages. I just edited the above message as I did it on a calculator as I knew my original math was correct. I now see he was doing 40/12000 out of 100.00. I was doing it out of 1.00.

Or so you say. It's hard to check now, no?

You said you were "done posting with this thread" but the time stamps suggest you are sticking to this thread like guilt on a thief. Seriously, you have hit rock bottom and are starting to dig.

[Griking]

Boy you SURE ARE funny. That was no more than 50. I think it was a lot less. 40 out of 12000 is actually 0.003 percent and doesnt even come close to the percent of 1 negative feedback (the corrolation at 98.4 percent means 1 negative per 72 positive feedback or so. Perhaps you should do a bit more research next time? To raise your feedback .1 percent at 10,000+ you actually need nearly 1000 positive feedback.

Interesting. You don't deny that you went feedback shopping, you only argue what percentage of a difference it made to your feedback score. Why would a honest seller NEED to go feedback shopping in the first place?

You also didn't seem to respond to the point that you use feedback as blackmail and rarely leave deserved positive feedback.



Also, I dont sell on that account really at all any more. The ONLY reason I bought those was to use it as a buyers account. I sell a few items but very few on that account. I use it as a buyers account.


I have very impressive feedback. I have 100 percent feedback on most of my accounts.

Hmm, for some reason the fact that you have multiple accounts and seem to limit your shady tactics to specific ones seems to diminish the importance of the 100% on the other. At least in my book it does.

[raregamergirl]

No, I just dont like people who DONT represent the facts. I will gladly add the facts. You just want to add propoganda. ALL I did was add the facts. You have never dealt with me so you have really no say. I have nothing to hide. I will gladly answer to any questions or comments. My feedback is impressive and there is nothing to hide. I had many people purchase items from me on the RGG account with the sole intention of leaving negative feedback (such as yourself or other ebay competitors. I have plenty of proof of this to show if you like).

The facts are rather clear. I will post where I want, regardless of what you like. You can talk about me all you like, but realize I will be adding the FACTS. You can give all the fictitious information you like. My feedback speaks for itself. All my other ebay accounts are at no lower than 99.7 percent feedback and all of them have over 1000 feedback. My amazon account has one of the highest feedback percentages of any of the big time game sellers. I have more knowledge on how ebay and amazon work than you could realize.

As for other accounts, you obviously don't know how running a business works. People gun for you on the internet. Your competitors and many others. Why do you think ALL the top sellers on ebay (literally, all of them) are always changing names? I have 5 accounts counting RGG (all in my name). I sell on all of them (not so much RGG). I bought 40 feedback or so to get one particular negative feedback I recieved from a SELLER who claimed I didnt pay. They tried to scam me so I did refuse to pay. I buy many large ticket items and I dont want my bids being cancelled so I purchased feedback to put that feedback to the second page quickly.