Channel F European clones - Help!

[Nicola]

I've found that the Videoplay (Saba), Telematch Processor (ITT), Challenger (Barco) were released in 1978.
Then in 1979 Zircon released the System II...and I've found that this has been cloned in Europe as Video Entertainment System (Luxor), Adman Grandstand and Videoplay (Saba).

So, are the European ones clones of the original Channel F or the newer System II? Is the sound mixed to the video and the controllers detachable?

Any help would be very appreciated, as usual!!!

Thx!

[y-bot]

I have a couple of them but they're in storage. I know one looks totally different than a US Channel F. I may be in my storage unit soon to get my air conditioner so I might be able to take a look.

y-bot

[Nicola]

You're very kind but I need a reply as fast as possible...if anyone has a tip, please let me know!

Thanks!!!

[lucifershalo]

I have a german saba videoplay
what do you want to know?

[Nicola]

I have a german saba videoplay
what do you want to know?


If it's a clone of the Channel F or Channel F II. Eg, does it have an internal speaker or is the sound reproduced by TV?
Thanks!!!!

[anagrama]

The Grandstand version is basically a re-badged Channel F II, with detachable controllers.
The proper title is 'Adman Grandstand Video Entertainment Computer' too.

[lucifershalo]

I will check taht this evening
where does the sound come out...
thats all u need ?

[Nicola]

I will check taht this evening
where does the sound come out...
thats all u need ?

Yes! It's enough!

[Nicola]

anyone checked?

[Nicola]

...anyone? Pleeeease!

[lucifershalo]

sorry for the delay
the sound is coming out of the TV

[Nicola]

Many many many thanks!!!! Anagrama and lucifershalo PM me your full names if you want to be credited in my research!

thanks again!!!!!!