SMS sonic US version

[Gorez]

i tried searching for this and i looked on the rarity guide, it says the only way you tell if its the US version from the Europe version is from the UPC.

well...which one is which? does anyone know what the UPC code is for each of them?

[Speedy_NES]

i tried searching for this and i looked on the rarity guide, it says the only way you tell if its the US version from the Europe version is from the UPC.

well...which one is which? does anyone know what the UPC code is for each of them?

Here's the UPC from the PAL version:

4 974365 634766

IIRC, the US version simply has a sticker with a new UPC covering the old one (so everything is identical except for the sticker)...feel free to correct me if I'm wrong tho ;)

[Scrimble]

Well the version released in the US is a Europeon copy with a UPC sticker placed over the printed one on the back of the box. The US sticker should have the number 0 10086 07076 7. I'm not sure what the euro number is though. I'm guessing they did this to match the "10086" barcode numbers on all the other US games. They also did this for Strider, Spider-man, and Golden Axe Warrior in the US.

[Garry Silljo]

Well the version released in the US is a Europeon copy with a UPC sticker placed over the printed one on the back of the box. The US sticker should have the number 0 10086 07076 7. I'm not sure what the euro number is though. I'm guessing they did this to match the "10086" barcode numbers on all the other US games. They also did this for Strider, Spider-man, and Golden Axe Warrior in the US.

Strider and Spider-man .... yes, Golden Axe Warrior .... no. I had all 3 of those games and Golden Axe Warrior was in a localized English only box.

[Scrimble]

Strider and Spider-man .... yes, Golden Axe Warrior .... no. I had all 3 of those games and Golden Axe Warrior was in a localized English only box.

That is true that the box and manual are all in english, but they did put a new UPC sticker on the back. I should have stated it better.

[Gorez]

well i found one for 30$ somewhere and it had a cardboard cutout of the US barcode/upc over the euro barcode/upc.

so i guess that wouldnt be an "official" US version?

[Scrimble]

It doesn't sound like it is. That's strange that its on cardboard though. Did you buy it or no? If you did maybe you could post a picture of it?

[Gorez]

i didnt buy it, i thought i could easily find a picture of it so i could see if it looked like the one i found. but i guess not...does anyone have a picture of what it looks like?

[MarioMania]

It's just a UK copy..Is it

[cyberfluxor]

Wow... Just wow. I never looked at SMS Sonic before, but dang! If I ever get it I'll be sure it's imported to save the money.

[swlovinist]

I scored a UK version, but with a wierd black and white fold out manual. Was this a pack in over there? Just curious.

[MarioMania]

I just don't get it..The US version is high priced, But it's the UK version with a diffent bar code

[p_b]

I just don't get it..The US version is high priced, But it's the UK version with a diffent bar code

leet hardcore collectors care! :-)

[MarioMania]

leet hardcore collectors care! :-)Well if they want to pay though the nose for a UK Copy with a US Barcode, Go Right ahead..

[playgeneration]

It's the crazy mentality that most US sms fans ONLY want to collect US releases. Which means they pay stupid money for a barcode sticker, and miss out on tons of the best games which didn't make it to the US.

[icbrkr]

Not sure about most, or I'm an exception. I've got an almost complete 'US' collection, but it's a mix of Europe/UK/US titles. The later in life releases were some of the best, and import only so I frequently buy SMS titles from the UK/Australia.

[anagrama]

I scored a UK version, but with a wierd black and white fold out manual. Was this a pack in over there? Just curious.

Yeah, it was a pack-in before later being built into SMS2 units, though fold-out manuals usually indicate an Australian release (the covers are often identical to Euro copies, but there's sometimes very small differences).

And I'll never understand the people who've paid $200+ purely for a UPC sticker - can't you just get a Euro copy for about $3 and tell yourself the sticker fell off? ;)

[RickHarrisMaine]

Plus, if I'm not mistaken, the SMS is region-free, is it not?

[s1lence]

Plus, if I'm not mistaken, the SMS is region-free, is it not?

You are correct, you can play any region SMS game on any of the systems.

[anagrama]

You are correct, you can play any region SMS game on any of the systems.

Aside frrm the small handful (maybe half a dozen) of European games that have 50/60Hz issues on an NTSC system.

[Gorez]

well i just got back from the store and the Sonic i saw did have the sticker on it and it was 39.99, not 29.99 like i first thought.

also i found Golden Axe Warrior with the sticker on it as well for 59.99...much more expensive than i wanted to pay for it but i bought it anyway assuming that the upc sticker on it made it the 'rare' US version.

alsooo in the same store i found the John Madden Football '93 Championship Edition for 19.99...ive been looking for that one and havent been able to find one for a long time. getting close to finishing my genesis collection.

anyway, here's pictures of the sonic and golden axe warrior games.

[MarioMania]

I'll bet the Manual is a UK Copy

[anagrama]

I'll bet the Manual is a UK Copy

All the "US versions" of Sonic have Euro manuals.

[MarioMania]

oh ok, Why pay like $100 just for a Barcode

You could find one for under $15 on ebay uk

[TurboGenesis]

Here is a pic of my USA Sonic for SMS. ( I think I posted this before)

The barcode # is 10086 07076

http://a224.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01083/32/20/1083380223_l.jpg

I bought the game new back in 1992.

[anagrama]

oh ok, Why pay like $100 just for a Barcode

You could find one for under $15 on ebay uk

Hell, you're overpaying is it costs more than about $5 - it's the single most common SMS game in Europe.

[MarioMania]

yeah $5 sounds good..

[j_factor]

You are correct, you can play any region SMS game on any of the systems.

Japanese cartridges are shaped differently and, IIRC, have a different number of pins. So they can't be played on a US/EU system without some weird modification. I might add, there's absolutely no reason whatsoever to do such a mod, as the Japanese games are more uncommon than their US counterparts and nothing interesting for the system was Japan-exclusive. But still.

[anagrama]

nothing interesting for the system was Japan-exclusive.

Hmm, that's debatable - Woody Pop, Galactic Protector, Megumi Rescue, Machine Gun Joe & Alex Kidd BMX Trial are all worth hunting down IMO.

And there are adapters available to play Western carts on a Japanese system, but not the other way around.

[idrougge]

Hmm, that's debatable - Woody Pop, Galactic Protector, Megumi Rescue, Machine Gun Joe & Alex Kidd BMX Trial are all worth hunting down IMO.

You like paddles, don't you?

[nebrazca78]

Here is a pic of my USA Sonic for SMS. ( I think I posted this before)

The barcode # is 10086 07076

http://a224.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01083/32/20/1083380223_l.jpg

I bought the game new back in 1992.

Oh man you're making me jealous. I've been looking for the U.S. version of this game for years, it's the last one I need to have a complete U.S. SMS set (true and complete U.S. SMS set that is). I'm dropping $200 on it next time I see one on eBay. I've been hoping to hit a BIN from someone who doesn't know what they have or something but I haven't seen hide nor hair of this game since before Christmas. Excruciating!

[idrougge]

Oh man you're making me jealous. I've been looking for the U.S. version of this game for years, it's the last one I need to have a complete U.S. SMS set (true and complete U.S. SMS set that is). I'm dropping $200 on it next time I see one on eBay.

Didn't you read the thread? It's just a sticker on a European copy.

[MarioMania]

There's no US version of Sonic...only the PAL version with a US barcode

[j_factor]

Which is the US version.

[MarioMania]

No, it's the PAL version with the US barcode...This is the one without the barcode

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/MarioMania/P1010549.jpg

[anagrama]

Oh man you're making me jealous. I've been looking for the U.S. version of this game for years, it's the last one I need to have a complete U.S. SMS set (true and complete U.S. SMS set that is). I'm dropping $200 on it next time I see one on eBay. I've been hoping to hit a BIN from someone who doesn't know what they have or something but I haven't seen hide nor hair of this game since before Christmas. Excruciating!

Tell ya what - I'll print off a copy of the UPC code and sell ya that for $100. How about it?

[nebrazca78]

Tell ya what - I'll print off a copy of the UPC code and sell ya that for $100. How about it?

What good would that do? It still wouldn't be a U.S. release.

[klausien]

What good would that do? It still wouldn't be a U.S. release.

Exactly. Even a bar code sticker makes it a different version and is indeed necessary for a "complete" US SMS collection. We all have our passions in this hobby.


Hmm, that's debatable - Woody Pop, Galactic Protector, Megumi Rescue, Machine Gun Joe & Alex Kidd BMX Trial are all worth hunting down IMO.

And there are adapters available to play Western carts on a Japanese system, but not the other way around.

Indeed. If you want to play the FM Unit games on real deal hardware, a JPN system is the only way to go. The fact that most of the 3D titles have FM sound in the JPN versions drives me nuts. A Japanese SMS with one of said converters is probably the best way to go for anyone wishing to have access to everything the SMS has to offer.

[All Things Sega]

I guess everyone's version of complete is different. There is no set standards because there are a ton of variations that were released. Do we count sms games that came with different manuals and art work? Do we count games that came with blue stickers on cart instead of red? Same games released by 2 different companies? etc. etc. etc. It just becomes less of a hobby and more about bragging rights. If someone is willing to pay for a PAL game with a sticker added on, that's their perogative. If it makes them happy, then that's all that matter. But who is to say what is "complete" and what isn't anyway

[idrougge]

What good would that do? It still wouldn't be a U.S. release.

Anagrama is trying to help you complete your collection, and you act like a spoiled child. What's wrong with Anagrama's bar code? If it's for your Barcode Battler, I can assure you that it will work just fine.

[anagrama]

If someone is willing to pay for a PAL game with a sticker added on, that's their perogative. If it makes them happy, then that's all that matter. But who is to say what is "complete" and what isn't anyway

I know, I'm just ragging on him. I've spent my fair share on things that other people would consider unnecessary variations, but we all draw our own lines somewhere...

[anagrama]

I guess everyone's version of complete is different. There is no set standards because there are a ton of variations that were released. Do we count sms games that came with different manuals and art work? Do we count games that came with blue stickers on cart instead of red? Same games released by 2 different companies? etc. etc. etc. It just becomes less of a hobby and more about bragging rights. If someone is willing to pay for a PAL game with a sticker added on, that's their perogative. If it makes them happy, then that's all that matter. But who is to say what is "complete" and what isn't anyway

I know, I'm just ragging on him. I've spent my fair share on things that other people would consider unnecessary variations, but we all draw our own lines somewhere...

[j_factor]

No, it's the PAL version with the US barcode...

That's what the US version is.

[MarioMania]

Why are we making a big deal over a Barcode,

A US version is the Everything in engish.

[nebrazca78]

A couple of people in this thread are laughably stupid. It's very simple.

The U.S. release of Sonic The Hedgehog is the Euro version with a U.S. UPC sticker over the Euro UPC. No matter how you feel about this fact, adding a fake UPC or other counterfeiting will never make a Euro release a U.S. release.

Everything else is just semantics.

[anagrama]

Yeah, but how would you possibly know the difference if it was done well?
If you do finally find one, how can you be sure that the seller hasn't just added a fake sticker? How can you be sure that any given Euro copy sold in the US isn't actually the "US version" with the sticker removed?

Even you must be able to appreciate why some people would consider spending $200+ on a easily-faked barcode sticker somewhat ridiculous, no? Or is it worth it just to be able to brag that you have a "100% complete" US collection?

[Blitzwing256]

its just part of being a collector, simple packaging variations are a challenge to find, and yeah theres a chance of getting screweed by a scammer, but again its part of the enjoyment of finding that rare genunie piece for a collection, and yeah if you just wanted to play the game..the euro version is the way to go.

i've spent years searching for very slight variations on transformers, hell my holy grail was a photocopied version of jazz's instruction sheet that came with the cookie crisp mail in version, easy enough to fake but you know what? its one of the prize pieces in my collection. its all in what makes you happy.

[All Things Sega]

Yeah, but how would you possibly know the difference if it was done well?
If you do finally find one, how can you be sure that the seller hasn't just added a fake sticker? How can you be sure that any given Euro copy sold in the US isn't actually the "US version" with the sticker removed?

Even you must be able to appreciate why some people would consider spending $200+ on a easily-faked barcode sticker somewhat ridiculous, no? Or is it worth it just to be able to brag that you have a "100% complete" US collection?

You hit the nail on the head. It all comes down to bragging rights. The next person will try to top it by saying he has a more "complete" US collection that includes the blue cart versions or other variations. It never ends because you can find something different in every collection. In my opinion, I find it silly to pay that much money for a barcode but I could care less about bragging rights or showing off so each his own.

[Gorez]

i didnt mean to make this thread become an all out war. i just got excited that i might have seen a US released sonic at a store for cheaper than what that barcode is worth to alot of people. everyone views "complete" differently, just leave it at that.

and i did, as you see in the pictures from my post earlier in this thread. maybe i will sell it sometime.

[idrougge]

The U.S. release of Sonic The Hedgehog is the Euro version with a U.S. UPC sticker over the Euro UPC. No matter how you feel about this fact, adding a fake UPC or other counterfeiting will never make a Euro release a U.S. release.

Tell that to Sega of America, Mister Semantics.

[nebrazca78]

Yeah, but how would you possibly know the difference if it was done well?
If you do finally find one, how can you be sure that the seller hasn't just added a fake sticker? How can you be sure that any given Euro copy sold in the US isn't actually the "US version" with the sticker removed?


I would compare it to known copies but just like any fake if it was done right I wouldn't know.



Even you must be able to appreciate why some people would consider spending $200+ on a easily-faked barcode sticker somewhat ridiculous, no? Or is it worth it just to be able to brag that you have a "100% complete" US collection?

It has little to do with bragging. I don't know about you, but bragging to people on the internet, most of whom I've never met, is not particularly fulfilling.


its just part of being a collector, simple packaging variations are a challenge to find, and yeah theres a chance of getting screweed by a scammer, but again its part of the enjoyment of finding that rare genunie piece for a collection, and yeah if you just wanted to play the game..the euro version is the way to go.


Genuine piece. Exactly.


You hit the nail on the head. It all comes down to bragging rights. The next person will try to top it by saying he has a more "complete" US collection that includes the blue cart versions or other variations. It never ends because you can find something different in every collection. In my opinion, I find it silly to pay that much money for a barcode but I could care less about bragging rights or showing off so each his own.

If showing off a barcode is a big part of your life I'd wager to say you have bigger problems anyway.


Tell that to Sega of America, Mister Semantics.

I can only assume the language barrier has caused you to emit this nonsense.

This thread is so crappy none of the vets except Anagrama will even get involved. How did I get myself into this? BARF!!

[CatBoy]

I guess everyone's version of complete is different. There is no set standards because there are a ton of variations that were released. Do we count sms games that came with different manuals and art work? Do we count games that came with blue stickers on cart instead of red? Same games released by 2 different companies? etc. etc. etc. It just becomes less of a hobby and more about bragging rights. If someone is willing to pay for a PAL game with a sticker added on, that's their perogative. If it makes them happy, then that's all that matter. But who is to say what is "complete" and what isn't anyway

And don't forget that Sonic the Hedgehog is not the only EUR game that got released over here with the UPC sticker. I have a couple more that are not listed in the US guide here but that do include "official" UPC stickers to make them US releases. I guess that most people here who think they have complete US collection are missing a few titles since UPC stickers count...

[nebrazca78]

And don't forget that Sonic the Hedgehog is not the only EUR game that got released over here with the UPC sticker. I have a couple more that are not listed in the US guide here but that do include "official" UPC stickers to make them US releases. I guess that most people here who think they have complete US collection are missing a few titles since UPC stickers count...

Please enlighten us on which games those are.

[anagrama]

And don't forget that Sonic the Hedgehog is not the only EUR game that got released over here with the UPC sticker. I have a couple more that are not listed in the US guide here but that do include "official" UPC stickers to make them US releases. I guess that most people here who think they have complete US collection are missing a few titles since UPC stickers count...

Unless it's Spider-man, Strider or Golden Axe Warrior, I'll wager they're Canadian rather than US releases - several Euro games were also released there with only a UPC sticker to differentiate them.