April Console Sales

[badinsults]

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=16199

The numbers:

Nintendo DS: 471K (10.9 million total)
Nintendo Wii: 360K (2.5 million total)
Sony PlayStation 2: 194K (38.2 million total)
Sony PSP: 183K (7.4 million total)
Microsoft Xbox 360: 174K (5.4 million total)
Nintendo Game Boy Advance: 84K (35.7 million total)
Sony PlayStation 3: 82K (1.3 million total)
Nintendo Gamecube: 13K (11.7 million total)

Looks as though the PS3 isn't selling that much. Nintendo seems to have figured out what to do.

[-hellvin-]

It sucks for Sony...a lot of people just don't want to throw down 600 bucks for a console alone with none of the essentials. I would hands down own one if it wasn't for the price point, I just have no way to throw that much money toward a game system. Sucks for them since it's a double edged sword and they're loosing money just making the console.

[bangtango]

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=16199

The numbers:

Nintendo DS: 471K (10.9 million total)
Nintendo Wii: 360K (2.5 million total)
Sony PlayStation 2: 194K (38.2 million total)
Sony PSP: 183K (7.4 million total)
Microsoft Xbox 360: 174K (5.4 million total)
Nintendo Game Boy Advance: 84K (35.7 million total)
Sony PlayStation 3: 82K (1.3 million total)
Nintendo Gamecube: 13K (11.7 million total)

Looks as though the PS3 isn't selling that much. Nintendo seems to have figured out what to do.

The Wii sales are smaller than I thought. At least given all the talk we keep hearing about Nintendo's success with the system. All it takes is a couple of AAA exclusives to help close the gap between 1.3 million and 2.5. For all of the press the Wii is getting, that isn't a huge advantage like we are being led to believe. The sales are almost double of what Sony is doing with the PS3 but double of 1.3 million is a lot different than double of 5 or 6 million. Are these figures in the United States only?

Hint: The folks who have been posting that Sony is "done" over the past couple of weeks still have time to go back and edit their threads or posts to remove the evidence.

[p_b]

I think they're US only, as the PS2 probably has more than 38.2 million sold worldwide, I'd think.

[studvicious]

Yeah that has to be US only numbers. I think Japan sells that many DS's per hour. :P

[udisi]

I think nintendo would have higher sales numbers, but they're still having supply problems.

[skylark]

It looks like all the consoles are doing pretty well overall, but I can't see how 82k can make Sony happy in terms of recent trending considering that they seem to be meeting demand.

On the other hand, Microsoft can't be too comfortable given that their head start advantage seems to be quickly disappearing. (Serves them right for those patent lawsuits they just slapped down on the open source movement)

[jajaja]

If these were November or December sales i would say it would be time to worry, but when its April sales i dont think they are that bad.

[Griking]

If these were November or December sales i would say it would be time to worry, but when its April sales i dont think they are that bad.

What about the 1.3 million total sold figure? How many months has it been available in the US now?

[bangtango]

What about the 1.3 million total sold figure? How many months has it been available in the US now?

The same could be said about the Wii, regardless of how hard it is to find. 2.5 million isn't as much as I thought it would have sold given the way people are crowing about how "Nintendo is back on top." Yeah, 1.3 million sold may look like crap and it is selling at a slower rate than the Wii but I wouldn't count out Sony quite yet. They'll figure something out and this is coming from someone who is hardly a Sony supporter.

[Kejoriv]

I cant believe that the Gamecube sold 13,000 units.

[The Shawn]

The same could be said about the Wii, regardless of how hard it is to find. 2.5 million isn't as much as I thought it would have sold given the way people are crowing about how "Nintendo is back on top." Yeah, 1.3 million sold may look like crap and it is selling at a slower rate than the Wii but I wouldn't count out Sony quite yet. They'll figure something out and this is coming from someone who is hardly a Sony supporter.


No your not a sony supporter......Mr. "I have 10 ps1's" LOL ---Just joking ......but you doLOL

[hbkprm]

what about the wii

[Hep038]

I have to agree with some of the post above. With all the "Wii sell out as son as they hit the shelf" and the "their are pallets of ps3 with dust in every game store" the numbers are not as good/bad as I thought they would be. But then again I am going by what I am reading off message boards.

[crazyjackcsa]

Of course we can all spin numbers to suit our needs and wants, so let me do add my slant: In the month of April the Wii out sold the PS3 by almost a 4 to 1 margin. While the PS3 has seen softer and softer sales each month, the Wii continues to gain strength increasing it's market share. These numbers do not include the Japanese numbers which are often much higher for Nintendo products.

[jajaja]

What about the 1.3 million total sold figure? How many months has it been available in the US now?

To be honest, i think 1.3 million PS3 sold in the US is pretty good. As Hep038 says, you would think its much lower with all the "PS3 is collection dust in the stores. Stocks are full. We sold 1 PS3 this week." comments. These numbers shows that Wii isnt even outselling PS3 2 to 1. I would think it was much bigger difference (probly would be if Wii supply was higher, but still).

[studvicious]

But you also have to keep in mind that the Wiis are selling through pretty much as soon as they hit the shelves. There are STILL people that want to buy one that simply can't. You can pretty much go into ANY store and see 1 or 2 PS3's on the shelf (if not more) at any given time. If Nintendo was actually able to produce more units I'm sure that the number of units sold would go right up with it.

[bangtango]

But you also have to keep in mind that the Wiis are selling through pretty much as soon as they hit the shelves. There are STILL people that want to buy one that simply can't. You can pretty much go into ANY store and see 1 or 2 PS3's on the shelf (if not more) at any given time. If Nintendo was actually able to produce more units I'm sure that the number of units sold would go right up with it.

Well, it doesn't matter how many systems you sell at launch or even in the first 8-10 months. If people want to pick a winner or loser, it boils down to which system has the better games and has sold more systems when it is all said and done.


No your not a sony supporter......Mr. "I have 10 ps1's" ---Just joking ......but you do

Yeah, I do. All but one of those 10 were sitting abandoned and unloved in thrift stores or at yard sales. The remaining unit is the one I owned originally. It helped that they were all $15 or less, most of them cost me between $3-5. Game systems (non-portables) don't come no cheaper than the PS1.

[boatofcar]

What's most surprising to me is that the PSP outsold the 360 in April.

[cyberfluxor]

Assuming these are North America figures due to low console sales.


Of course we can all spin numbers to suit our needs and wants, so let me do add my slant: In the month of April the Wii out sold the PS3 by almost a 4 to 1 margin. While the PS3 has seen softer and softer sales each month, the Wii continues to gain strength increasing it's market share. These numbers do not include the Japanese numbers which are often much higher for Nintendo products.
Thank you! That's the first thing I saw, ratio of sales. If the PS3 were selling systems at 82K per month they'd barely break 500k units total today. Looking at the Wii, they've been selling what's on the shelf and they've had a constant sale, which isn't a good thing either. They can't supply the demand so once their demand has been fed you'll see sale declines and maybe growth later in its life as more games come out and the supply exists.


To be honest, i think 1.3 million PS3 sold in the US is pretty good. As Hep038 says, you would think its much lower with all the "PS3 is collection dust in the stores. Stocks are full. We sold 1 PS3 this week." comments. These numbers shows that Wii isnt even outselling PS3 2 to 1. I would think it was much bigger difference (probly would be if Wii supply was higher, but still).
I believe the reason they're "collecting dust" is because they have flooded the market, no demand to buy them. Their sales might be decent but they've over manufactured, which is silly I think. If it costs $x now to produce and $x-y to produce some delta time later then it's cheaper to crank up production once that demand is fit. They're losing exccess money from these big shipments to no customers.

[icbrkr]

I cant believe that the Gamecube sold 13,000 units.

Took the words out of my mouth. I love the cube but I can't imagine picking up one new cept maybe for a spare.

[heybtbm]

Took the words out of my mouth. I love the cube but I can't imagine picking up one new cept maybe for a spare.

Especially since the new ones can't even use component cables.

[Buyatari]

What's most surprising to me is that the PSP outsold the 360 in April.


price drop

[studvicious]

Well, it doesn't matter how many systems you sell at launch or even in the first 8-10 months. If people want to pick a winner or loser, it boils down to which system has the better games and has sold more systems when it is all said and done.

I guess what I was trying to say was, the people that were posting about how they thought the Wii numbers weren't as good as they were led to believe - is how could they be better when you sell EVERY SINGLE unit that hits the shelves? It's basically a number that says, "This is how many Wii's shipped in NA this month."

[NintenDk]

will the wii sell 10 mil units in less time then the gamecube did? It either will or it won't, should it though then I think thats good enough. Question is will it be at a rate closer to or ahead of the DS, a rate closer to the Cube, or somewhere in the in between time will tell it will for the wii

[otaku]

Sony is doing terrible right now but I think eventually they can do very well and surpass nintendo. I doubt nintendo's success with the wii will last. Naturally gameboy/DS will continue to be a big hit. If bluray takes off sony will do very well

[cyberfluxor]

If bluray takes off sony will do very well
That's the thing, will BluRay do well? Although afordable not that many people own HD TVs still and out of that few even want to fork another several hundred out for an HD player let alone some video game system. HD isn't that new and just hasn't taken off that much still. I expect in another 2 years that's when to expect the HD market to expand as the TVs become even more affordable (worth it to most to upgrade), more HD channels will be available and of course there's a better selection of movies.

As for Sony surpassing Nintendo, just don't know. Look at the PSP sales, the price dropped and they recieved a spurt of sales! I expect the same with the PS3. We'll see a generalized curve that forms around those price drops, same goes with the Xbox360. The Wii however is very affordable for "next generation" (whether you like it being classified as such or not) and operates on nearly every TV anyone owns. If Nintendo plays their cards right, meaning to continue taloring to casual and generally non-gamers, then they have a huge shot at winning in this generation which may cause Sony and Micrsoft to change the way their gameplay interaction works.

[theoakwoody]

If bluray takes off sony will do very well

I don't think Bluray will have anything to do with how well the PS3 does. I admit that I don't own a DVD player because I use either my PS2 or Xbox to watch movies but its more a matter of convenience. I could buy an $ 80 DVD player with progressive scan that looks better anyways. I feel that Sony is selling their souls to pimp bluray and I hope it bites them in the ass. I'm not a Nintendo fanboy but I love the fact that Nintendo doesn't focus on adding so many ridiculous features to their systems that it takes away from their main purpose. If Sony thinks people will pay $ 600 for their system because its a deal compared to paying $ 800 - $ 1200 for just a bluray player they are in for a big disappointment. The difference between 720p and 480p when watching a movie is not that big of a difference( unless you watching them side by side) and I'm thinking the % of the population that owns a 1080p tv has got to be miniscule. When every HD TV offers 1080p 3 years I can see how people will make the additional investment.

The PS3 will start selling consoles but not until they drop the price of the console. $ 599 is too much to spend, especially when every cross platform game looks just as good on the 360.

[Buyatari]

If Sony thinks people will pay $ 600 for their system because its a deal compared to paying $ 800 - $ 1200 for just a bluray player they are in for a big disappointment. The difference between 720p and 480p when watching a movie is not that big of a difference( unless you watching them side by side) and I'm thinking the % of the population that owns a 1080p tv has got to be miniscule. When every HD TV offers 1080p 3 years I can see how people will make the additional investment.


Gotta agree with this. I don't have HDTV. Hell I still have a B&W tv set in the house. I don't need to see every nose hair when I watch a flick. As long as I can make out bush and tits I'm good to go.

[Poofta!]

i think its interesting that there are more psps out there than 360s.... and almost as many as DS.

also, keep in mind that the wii numbers are low cause you cant find the damn thing and nintendo cant keep up, while the ps3 is low cause no one wants it, its readily available everywhere.

yeah 13k gamecubes... lol

[cyberfluxor]

yeah 13k gamecubes... lol

Yeah, why didn't the Game Wave beat it?