View Full Version : Let us discuss the AVGN's review of the Sega 32X.
Xizer
05-18-2007, 08:58 PM
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=19558&type=mov
Well, I'd say he pretty much sums it up. If anyone ever asks "Why did Sega fail?" all you have to do is link them to this video now.
The Sega 32X was pretty shitty. The CD had a few good games at least... but the 32X... nothing really stands out at all.
Trying to hook all that shit up was also ridiculous. Three power adapters, a shitload of video cables... what was the point of it being an add-on if all this shit required its own video cable and power source?
Snapple
05-18-2007, 09:18 PM
I know some people got fanboy rage over AVGN's Sega CD review, but I think this one is not only harder to argue against, but it's funnier.
xtremegamer
05-18-2007, 09:26 PM
In comparison with his previous videos, I think AVGN is losing his touch. The past couple videos have not been near as good as the videos he did with the nintendo games. Of course, I hold a very special place in my heart for the 32X, so I don't care to see anyone ragging on the system. This was the first system I was able to buy on my own. I bought it brand new in 97' for $19.99.
7th lutz
05-18-2007, 09:31 PM
I saw the video, when it first was on gametrailers on Wednesday. He was right about the system for the most part, except for screwing genesis games and virtual fighter. I own a genesis model 1 and getting it attached to the 32x was a big pain.
I know the 32x too well, it taught me a lesson for being fanboy! I quit being a fanboy due to the system and I wasn't to sure of getting a dreamcast till 2001 because of what happened to the 32x and the Saturn. I didn't own a saturn, but the 32x caused me to be very cautious getting a system by Sega. Back in 1994, my dad asked if I wanted a snes, I said not, and my parents got me the 32x with me asking for it. I didn't like the snes at the time due to the fact I liked playing sports games with my playing more other games for the genesis, and I didn't like the fact snes fanboys claiming the genesis had the graphics and the sound of an atari 2600 and it included Sonic for the sound and a graphics of a 2600 game. I thought sonic was great game. The sad thing was my parents played full price for it. At the time, I knew the system was a short term answer.
For the 32x, the problem was the system had games that released months after the games were released on other systems. I disagree with virtua fighter with him. The "floating" was on the saturn version also. I think it might've been in the arcade also for virtual fighter. I like other games on the game console like virua racing Deluxe, Mortal Kombat 2 and Virtua fighter.
bangtango
05-18-2007, 09:47 PM
Sega made a mistake and they eventually admitted it. It is time people like AVGN get over it.
Believe it or not, I'd rather play "crappy" consoles like the Sega CD or 32X than watch meatheads who have no other claim to fame than making lame web videos. I have no problem with him dissing Sega products, in theory, but I have no interest in supporting random internet jerks by clicking on their videos or buying their t-shirts (which I see for sale).
Snapple
05-18-2007, 09:53 PM
Sega made a mistake and they eventually admitted it. It is time people like AVGN get over it.
Believe it or not, I'd rather play "crappy" consoles like the Sega CD or 32X than watch meatheads who have no other claim to fame than making lame web videos.
I don't think you understand the point of the videos. He's over the top on purpose, not trying to incite the ire of Sega fans. It's entertainment, not a real review. If you watch his videos where he's not playing the character of the AVGN, he's just a normal guy. Feeling upset over an AVGN video is like getting mad that someone told you that Santa isn't real.
bangtango
05-18-2007, 09:54 PM
I don't think you understand the point of the videos. He's over the top on purpose, not trying to incite the ire of Sega fans. It's entertainment, not a real review. If you watch his videos where he's not playing the character of the AVGN, he's just a normal guy. Feeling upset over an AVGN video is like getting mad that someone told you that Santa isn't real.
I do understand it well. I don't like that type of humor. Honestly, I find it kind of stupid. That's my point.
MarioMania
05-18-2007, 10:27 PM
Yeah..I know it acting or something..I fel like smacking him with the Genesis AC
Kitsune Sniper
05-18-2007, 10:28 PM
Bwahaha. Funny.
I don't like it when the hardware gets trashed at the end, though. :(
Xizer
05-18-2007, 10:35 PM
Sega made a mistake and they eventually admitted it. It is time people like AVGN get over it.
Believe it or not, I'd rather play "crappy" consoles like the Sega CD or 32X than watch meatheads who have no other claim to fame than making lame web videos. I have no problem with him dissing Sega products, in theory, but I have no interest in supporting random internet jerks by clicking on their videos or buying their t-shirts (which I see for sale).
Haha, wow, you're a douchebag. Apparently a guy who is trying to provide entertainment, and is successfully doing so, to thousands of people is just some "meathead" and a "lame Internet jerk."
Quit whining about some guy making videos to entertain people about shitty video games. So, James Rolfe is some guy whose only claim to fame is having thousands of subscribers on the Internet. Where's your claim to fame, big shot? What have you produced that has been more successful than The Angry Video Game Nerd?
It would appear that this "random Internet jerk" has accomplished more than you. Picking on someone for something they do to entertain people just seems retarded to me. I see that you link to a site http://www.fastmail.fm as your website. How is making videos about old, bad video games any worse than committing highway robbery by charging $40 / month for a service that has less features than Gmail?
thetoxicone
05-18-2007, 10:43 PM
I just feel he isn't trying that hard anymore. Anyone can comment on the obvious and that's what all of his system reviews have sounded like lately. Taking the easy road (the multiple ac adaptors, how it looks connected to a genesis, etc) just isn't that funny. It seems his first string of videos were a lot more creative when dissing the titles.
bangtango
05-18-2007, 10:46 PM
Haha, wow, you're a douchebag. Apparently a guy who is trying to provide entertainment, and is successfully doing so, to thousands of people is just some "meathead" and a "lame Internet jerk."
Quit whining about some guy making videos to entertain people about shitty video games. So, James Rolfe is some guy whose only claim to fame is having thousands of subscribers on the Internet. Where's your claim to fame, big shot? What have you produced that has been more successful than The Angry Video Game Nerd?
It would appear that this "random Internet jerk" has accomplished more than you.
You don't get it at all. What I have been trying to get at for two posts is I don't like his style of humor and that is simply an opinion of mine. That is no different than somebody who may not like Jerry Seinfeld's style of humor or Jeff Foxworthy's.
So I am supposed to pop a chubby every time this dude releases a new video like you do? I missed the memo that says we have to stop the presses and sit on our hands when someone releases yet another Super Mario Bros. hack or speedrun on YouTube.
bangtango
05-18-2007, 10:48 PM
Haha, wow, you're a douchebag. Apparently a guy who is trying to provide entertainment, and is successfully doing so, to thousands of people is just some "meathead" and a "lame Internet jerk."
Quit whining about some guy making videos to entertain people about shitty video games. So, James Rolfe is some guy whose only claim to fame is having thousands of subscribers on the Internet. Where's your claim to fame, big shot? What have you produced that has been more successful than The Angry Video Game Nerd?
It would appear that this "random Internet jerk" has accomplished more than you.
Double post.
Xizer
05-18-2007, 10:55 PM
You don't get it at all. What I have been trying to get at for two posts is I don't like his style of humor and that is simply an opinion of mine. That is no different than somebody who may not like Jerry Seinfeld's style of humor or Jeff Foxworthy's.
So I am supposed to pop a chubby every time this dude releases a new video like you do? I missed the memo that says we have to stop everything when someone releases yet another Super Mario Bros. hack or speedrun on YouTube.
Why did you feel we would care about your lack of interest in supporting this guy by purchasing merchandise anyway? What does that have to do with the thread? Did I forget I typed "Oh yeah and buy his shit!" in the first post or something?
I created this thread so we could discuss his specific review, not for it to be an attack on the guy because you can't get over the fact that the 32X was a piece of shit. The thread didn't say "Let us come bash a guy who made a review about a piece of shitty hardware and then proceed to boycott any merchandise produced by said individual to assist in creating further videos!"
And what some guy reviewing the Sega 32X has to do with someone recording themselves making a Super Mario Bros. speedrun on YouTube, I will never know.
Gentlegamer
05-18-2007, 11:02 PM
Sega made a mistake and they eventually admitted it. It is time people like AVGN get over it.
Believe it or not, I'd rather play "crappy" consoles like the Sega CD or 32X than watch meatheads who have no other claim to fame than making lame web videos. I have no problem with him dissing Sega products, in theory, but I have no interest in supporting random internet jerks by clicking on their videos or buying their t-shirts (which I see for sale).You really don't get the Angry Video Game Nerd, do you?
boatofcar
05-18-2007, 11:07 PM
Hilarious. Everything on his review was spot on. I still can't get over the difference in sound between the 32X and SNES Doom games.
Seriously (and really, I do mean seriously.) How can the 32X hold a special place in your heart and not make you want to hate Sega?
bangtango
05-18-2007, 11:14 PM
Why did you feel we would care about your lack of interest in supporting this guy by purchasing merchandise anyway? What does that have to do with the thread? Did I forget I typed "Oh yeah and buy his shit!" in the first post or something?
I created this thread so we could discuss his specific review, not for it to be an attack on the guy because you can't get over the fact that the 32X was a piece of shit. The thread didn't say "Let us come bash a guy who made a review about a piece of shitty hardware and then proceed to boycott any merchandise produced by said individual to assist in creating further videos!"
And what some guy reviewing the Sega 32X has to do with someone recording themselves making a Super Mario Bros. speedrun on YouTube, I will never know.
So you assume that every single person here on Digital Press is a big-time supporter of the Angry Video Game Nerd? How friggin' naive are you?
On second though, I apologize. I didn't know that being a hardcore fan of his work was a prerequisite before posting here.
As for your idiotic remark about me not accomplishing anything, I don't have aspirations of posting a bunch of videos on YouTube to get "hits." If you want to know what my claim to fame is, I'll tell you. It's nothing to brag about. I've been on FM radio part time for nine years and have interviewed all sorts of artists and promoted a lot of cd's and shows. I'm quite low on the broadcasting food chain and on a large station, I'd either be buried at 3 AM or driving the station van. I don't lose sleep over it, though. Sure, I am hardly successful and have to work a "real" day job most of the week when I am off air but I've managed to hang around for 9 years off and on.
I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me why it is such a crime to say you don't like his videos. You posted this thread to get people's opinions, did you not? I've watched them and I'm simply not a fan. As a rule, I like dry, subtle humor and slapstick. His shtick just annoys me and it has nothing to do with video games. I wouldn't be into it regardless of what he is reviewing.
DefaultGen
05-18-2007, 11:16 PM
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Xizer
05-18-2007, 11:17 PM
Well, that's wonderful. You've voiced your opinion now, so feel free to leave the thread. Since you don't like the guy, I don't see what else you could contribute besides stating that.
Push Upstairs
05-18-2007, 11:24 PM
I'd watch it, but I refuse to install Quicktime.
But if the video goes about how I imagine it then it's not vital to see it.
Frankly, I'd rather he rant about something that half the internet doesn't already rag on. The 32X is too easy of a target, and this is coming from someone who doesn't like the thing all that much.
Tron 2.0
05-18-2007, 11:26 PM
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=19558&type=mov
Well, I'd say he pretty much sums it up. If anyone ever asks "Why did Sega fail?" all you have to do is link them to this video now.
The Sega 32X was pretty shitty. The CD had a few good games at least... but the 32X... nothing really stands out at all.
Trying to hook all that shit up was also ridiculous. Three power adapters, a shitload of video cables... what was the point of it being an add-on if all this shit required its own video cable and power source?
I can agree for what he says about the 32X.
To quote the avgn:What were they thinking !? ;)
Beside i still feel the 32X was a waste to begin with from sega.
Xizer
05-18-2007, 11:29 PM
I'd watch it, but I refuse to install Quicktime.
But if the video goes about how I imagine it then it's not vital to see it.
Frankly, I'd rather he rant about something that half the internet doesn't already rag on. The 32X is too easy of a target, and this is coming from someone who doesn't like the thing all that much.
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=19558&type=wmv
You know, with GameTrailers you can easily switch the format back and forth. On the page, you can also click download link and there's a third format, MPEG-4, although it's optimized for watching on a portable device.
bangtango
05-18-2007, 11:29 PM
Well, that's wonderful. You've voiced your opinion now, so feel free to leave the thread. Since you don't like the guy, I don't see what else you could contribute besides stating that.
I have no problem leaving the thread. I'm sure I'll have to make another visit when you make another reply to fan the flames, though.
You start the thread and then complain when someone has a different opinion than you do about his videos. I'm not the one calling other people in here a "douchebag" because they don't agree with me like you're doing. That says all I need to know about you. Out of respect for the other people posting, I'm done in this thread unless you choose to call me out again simply for having the nerve to say I think his act is dumb and unoriginal.
If you have a further problem, you better PM me because I'm not on a quest to have this thing locked. Calling people a "douchebag" is a good way to start, though.
Push Upstairs
05-18-2007, 11:46 PM
http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=19558&type=wmv
You know, with GameTrailers you can easily switch the format back and forth. On the page, you can also click download link and there's a third format, MPEG-4, although it's optimized for watching on a portable device.
Thanks.
I still think the 32x was *WAY* too easy of a target but damn he is correct about games without labels on the top.
MarioMania
05-19-2007, 01:40 AM
Yes, Sega messed up..But the 32X wasn't shit..Time & Time again I said if Sega released the 32X in 92 it prolly would be diffent, It would go head to head with the Super NES
Kevincal
05-19-2007, 02:02 AM
I loved the 32X for the short time I had it. It introduced me to "next generation gaming". It was my first experience with Doom and it was awesome. And Virtua Racing Deluxe was great fun as well. Really, just those 2 games made me really happy...lol But, I think the Sega CD was the start of Sega's downfall and not the 32X. To me, Sega's nail in their coffin was the rushed launch of the Saturn. Games were buggy and well below expectations of a $400 powerhouse. Sega should have polished up all of their Saturn games and launched at the same time as the Playstation and things probably would have gone much better.
Thrillo
05-19-2007, 06:23 AM
Heck, in my opinion, it was worth buying solely because of Virtua Fighter: everything else is just extra.
Also, you must remember not to confuse Sega with 3rd parties; most of Sega's games for the 32X were excellent with games such as Knuckles Chaotix, Space Harrier, and Virtua Racing. Most of the 3rd party games weren't worth buying a 32X for: Doom was a lazy port, Night Trap 32X was interesting technologically but a lame game, Mortal Kombat II and Primal Rage were a waste of the developer's effort since they weren't much better than the Genny versions, etc.
Some of the 3rd party games are cool; I'd say the best is Zaxxon Motherbase 2000 since it has wicked music, nice graphics, and it plays like the original.
sabre2922
05-19-2007, 07:18 AM
Hilarious. Everything on his review was spot on. I still can't get over the difference in sound between the 32X and SNES Doom games.
Seriously (and really, I do mean seriously.) How can the 32X hold a special place in your heart and not make you want to hate Sega?
fully AGREED
the only thing that I DO NOT LIKE is seeing any videogame systems (well almost any) trashed at the end of 'net videos add on or not.
RockOfAges
05-19-2007, 07:39 AM
AVGN is hilarious. Basically, anyone whom is easily offended :sob: should stick to leftist political forums, not satirical video game videos. The guy is a riot.
fishsandwich
05-19-2007, 10:51 AM
The Sega 32X was pretty shitty. The CD had a few good games at least... but the 32X... nothing really stands out at all.
I agree that the 32x is pretty shitty OVERALL, but to say that "nothing really stands out at all" is a ridiculous blanket statement with no thought behind it whatsoever.
Have you ever taken the TIME to play some of the good 32x games? There are a few. Star Wars Arcade. Darxide. Kolobri. Virtua Racing Deluxe. Virtua Fighter. Blackthorne. Afterburner. Space Harrier. Stellar Assault. Hell, that's over a quarter of the entire library. Have you even PLAYED the damn thing or do you just watch silly videos to formulate opinions?
Sigh.
joshnickerson
05-19-2007, 11:14 AM
I enjoyed it. I never knew the 32X was so cumbersome to install, I'd always assumed you just popped it into your Genny and that was it. I had no idea it had it's own power source and another video cord to plug in. Wacky. It literally WAS putting the Genesis on life support.
I also liked the bit about no end labels; that's something that drove me mad about the N64 library.
boatofcar
05-19-2007, 11:26 AM
How dare you hold a different opinion than me?!?
The point is that when the 32X was released, the Saturn was already out in Japan. Why in the world would Sega release a system where its best games (besides Star Wars) are ports that would undoubtedly be released on the Saturn in better form, other than to screw its customers out of more money?
Snapple
05-19-2007, 11:36 AM
People are welcome to different opinions. You can like or dislike the 32x. You can find the AVGN funny or completely unfunny. But if you do disagree with the review, don't get antsy over it. You need to lighten up if it gets you hot and bothered under the collar.
Look at the AVGN FAQ.
Q: How dare you pick on that game?
A: If you take my reviews seriously, you are missing the whole point. Think for yourself. I may actually like some of the games I'm complaining about. I only focus on the negative. Some of my complaints may be legit and others far fetched. Remember, in the long run, its just a joke meant for a few laughs.
Gabriel
05-19-2007, 11:57 AM
The one bit I liked was the part about the AC adapters. I've bitched about that particular aspect of the Genesis/SegaCD/32X myself, and own a zillion powerstrips because of it. The labels thing never bothered me, because I kept all my boxes for 32X games (except the one for Doom). But AVGN obviously bought all his 32X stuff second hand from people who discarded the packaging (as he more or less notes in the video).
I thought it was stupid to start up complaining about the system without the mixer cable plugged in. Also, he seemed to have a very limited selection of games, and the lampooning of the system seemed much along the lines of the SegaCD: "Hey, wanna hear a joke? 32X! Har, har, har!" Star Wars Arcade could have used some poking fun of, all he would have had to do is get to the part where you fly inside the Super Star Destroyer and start bouncing uncontrollably against the walls until you die. Virtua Fighter is a rich parody environment, but I suppose that game is mostly off limits because of it's cult status. Even still, Cosmic Carnage would have provided ample humor bits between it's stupid looking characters, crayola colors, massive slowdown, and just outright shitty gameplay. Plus, Cosmic Carnage is common as dirt.
My picks for the best entries in the 32X library are Virtua Racing Deluxe, Shadow Squadron, Space Harrier, Metal Head, and Mortal Kombat II. Virtua Racing Deluxe, Shadow Squadron, and Space Harrier are still pretty damn good. Metal Head doesn't age very well, but can be fun if you get yourself into it. Mortal Kombat II narrowly edges out the SNES version as the best home version of the game at the time, but with numerous ways nowadays to play the emulated arcade original instead, that distinction is even more marginal than it was in the day.
Games which were passable were Afterburner, Star Wars Arcade, and Doom. Otherwise, the library reeks of halfway conceived launch titles.
I liked my 32X, even though I bought it at launch at full price when it didn't even come with a pack in game. I played the holy hell out of Virtua Racing Deluxe, Metal Head, and Shadow Squadron. I liked it better than the Saturn, to tell the truth. I'd still play Metal Head over just about anything in the Saturn library other than Dragon Force, or maybe Rayforce/Galactic Attack/Layer Section if I could ever find the damn game.
Oh, I don't think a model 1 Genesis + model 1 SegaCD + 32X looks that bad. However, the model 2s hooked together looks like a sprawling mess of dogshit, as the AVGN observes.
Oh well, at least this AVGN was better than the last one. It at least had one chuckle worthy bit.
Push Upstairs
05-19-2007, 03:01 PM
I never knew the 32X was so cumbersome to install, I'd always assumed you just popped it into your Genny and that was it.
He didn't exaggerate that part one bit. Hooking it up, the fact that I got "Space Harrier" and "Afterburner" on Saturn, and it's lack of games that appealed to me are the reasons why I got rid of my 32X.
Model 2 Sega CD+Model 1 Genesis+32X= single biggest video game contraption every conceived by man.
Kevincal
05-19-2007, 03:31 PM
Bah...A 3 year old could figure out how to hook up the 32X. It ain't that hard! There are many systems crappier than the 32X that don't get near as much flack! ;)
Kitsune Sniper
05-19-2007, 03:53 PM
Model 2 Sega CD+Model 1 Genesis+32X= single biggest video game contraption every conceived by man.
Nope.
Model 2 Sega CD + Model 1 Genesis + 32x + Genesis Game Genie + Power Base Converter == biggest video game contraption. :p
Xexyz
05-19-2007, 04:48 PM
Sega made a mistake and they eventually admitted it. It is time people like AVGN get over it.
Believe it or not, I'd rather play "crappy" consoles like the Sega CD or 32X than watch meatheads who have no other claim to fame than making lame web videos. I have no problem with him dissing Sega products, in theory, but I have no interest in supporting random internet jerks by clicking on their videos or buying their t-shirts (which I see for sale).
There's people out there who still don't understand AVGN's angle? He isn't bashing games and consoles for the sake of bashing, he's being satirical. A comedy show. Although I must admit, he is losing his touch. He should stick to the games, not the hardware.
EDIT: Looks like Snapple beat me to the punch.
Sosage
05-19-2007, 05:38 PM
Model 2 Sega CD+Model 1 Genesis+32X= single biggest video game contraption every conceived by man.
There was a thread discussing how huge you could possibly get a genny/cd/32x set up. I think the end result was Genny 1, Sega CD1, 32X, X-Band and then one of EA's tall carts as the cherry on top.
AVGN's discussing the power cords took me back to the day I got the damn 32X. I think every owner, current and past, goes through the "crap...where do I plug all of this shit in?" moment.
boatofcar
05-19-2007, 07:09 PM
There was a thread discussing how huge you could possibly get a genny/cd/32x set up. I think the end result was Genny 1, Sega CD1, 32X, X-Band and then one of EA's tall carts as the cherry on top.
Haha, awesome. I'd love to see a picture of that.
Kevincal
05-19-2007, 08:53 PM
ERR...Wrong answer...Sonic and Knuckles + another Sonic on top FTW! :D SEGA TOWA! lol
Kevincal
05-19-2007, 08:53 PM
Or actually i was wrong too....Sonic and Knuckles and THEN a tall EA cart...LOL
Xizer
05-19-2007, 11:27 PM
I think you're forgetting: Game Genie + Sonic and Knuckles + Tall EA cart
Push Upstairs
05-20-2007, 12:16 AM
Nope.
Model 2 Sega CD + Model 1 Genesis + 32x + Genesis Game Genie + Power Base Converter == biggest video game contraption. :p
Why would you put a PBC on top of a GG? The cart slot on a 32X is pretty iffy on it's own, even the slightest breeze would make the thing freeze up. But to put that bulky thing (compared to the GG) on top of a GG would make things even more risky.
Kitsune Sniper
05-20-2007, 12:20 AM
Why would you put a PBC on top of a GG? The cart slot on a 32X is pretty iffy on it's own, even the slightest breeze would make the thing freeze up. But to put that bulky thing (compared to the GG) on top of a GG would make things even more risky.
I was going for the tallest possible combination... not the one that worked. :P
Push Upstairs
05-20-2007, 12:33 AM
Well what I was hinting at was a cobbled together contraption that actually works.
None of this "Leaning tower of Sega" schtuff. :-D
GizmoGC
05-20-2007, 12:44 AM
Yes, Sega messed up..But the 32X wasn't shit..Time & Time again I said if Sega released the 32X in 92 it prolly would be diffent, It would go head to head with the Super NES
Yeah...and if Sony released the PS3 2 1/2 years ago...
Kevincal
05-20-2007, 02:30 AM
I think you're forgetting: Game Genie + Sonic and Knuckles + Tall EA cart
Yup you're right....I thought it was mentioned with the Xband but I see it wasn't. lol
DigitalSpace
05-21-2007, 05:40 AM
In my typical "late to the party" fashion, I finally saw this tonight. I thought it was pretty good. I'm kind of surprised he didn't have a copy of that golf game around, considering how common and dirt cheap it is. I could just imagine him making fun of the long title too.
xtremegamer
05-21-2007, 11:03 AM
You guys can bash on the 32X all you want because the system does have faults, alot of them. But, you don't take the time to find the good qualities. Myself being a wrestling fan loved the 32X for the sake of them re-releasing WWF Raw with new content and WrestleMania The Arcade game with all 8 characters and very limited slow down with no loading. I also enjoyed playing Star Wars and Vitua Fighter back in the day. Problem with people who review the system now is they compare to this generation of systems. Of course the graphics are gonna suck.
I did like in the video how AVGN compared the SNES Doom to the 32X Doom.
Push Upstairs
05-21-2007, 04:20 PM
Well I don't like the 32X because there weren't a lot of games on that I wanted to play...and the biggest ones that I did want to play (Space Harrier+Afterburner) were also on Saturn. I could keep the 32X and continue to hook that contraption up to my Genesis, or I could just pop the discs into my Saturn and play. (Physical) Space limitations and ease of use won out.
xtremegamer
05-21-2007, 04:26 PM
Well I don't like the 32X because there weren't a lot of games on that I wanted to play...and the biggest ones that I did want to play (Space Harrier+Afterburner) were also on Saturn. I could keep the 32X and continue to hook that contraption up to my Genesis, or I could just pop the discs into my Saturn and play. (Physical) Space limitations and ease of use won out.
I can agree to your point there. I guess that could be the reason I like the 32X so much, I like majority of the games on the system.
segagamer
05-21-2007, 05:14 PM
Even though I have the 32X and most of the games, I still think in hindsight that it was a system that should not have been released.
madman77
05-21-2007, 05:25 PM
Virtua Racing was the only 32x game I remember playing more than once. I bought it when TRU had it on close out for $20 and the games were all $10 or less. For the time, I thought it was an enjoyable racer.
Well, that's wonderful. You've voiced your opinion now, so feel free to leave the thread. Since you don't like the guy, I don't see what else you could contribute besides stating that.
So you create a thread called "Let us discuss the AVGN's review of the Sega 32X" and get all hot and bothered when someone says something you don't like? If you're not going to accept other opinions and answers, then don't create threads about discussing a topic.
The point is that when the 32X was released, the Saturn was already out in Japan. Why in the world would Sega release a system where its best games (besides Star Wars) are ports that would undoubtedly be released on the Saturn in better form, other than to screw its customers out of more money?
It all has to do with SOJ's rivalry with SOA. The American division outdid the main Japanese branch in every aspect from 1991-1995. There was intense rivalry that culminated in Sega's self destruction. The Japanese decided they knew what was best for the American market, even though they were failing at home. That's why almost the entire American management team left when Kalinske quit in '96. Even Sega founder David Rosen resigned as chairman.
There was severe ignorance on the part of management, a total lack of communication between the branches, a devastating decision to discontinue the Genesis in favor of the Saturn (even though sales were great and it could have lasted another two years) and total blindness about how to enter the next gen.