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segagamer4life
06-07-2007, 06:06 PM
Does anyone know of a chronological order to this series? I found some stuff online, but nothing concrete... thnx in advance.
Snapple
06-07-2007, 06:35 PM
I didn't think there was an order. Most of the games don't seem to take place in the same universe. They just have similar gameplay style and familiar plot points like the Mana Tree and the Sword of Mana.
But I don't think every Mana Tree is the same Mana Tree. It's like Cid is to Final Fantasy. There's one of them in every game, but each game is still in a different continuity.
studvicious
06-07-2007, 06:52 PM
See also, "The Legend Of Zelda"
Chaz From Phantasy Star 2
06-07-2007, 07:13 PM
It goes like this.
Seeken Detesntu (Final Fantasy Adventure)
Secret of Mana
Seeken Detesntu 3
Legend of Mana
Children of Mana
Dawn of Mana
That's it for the chronological release order. There is no storyline chrono... too lazy to type it out order
Poofta!
06-07-2007, 07:22 PM
See also, "The Legend Of Zelda"
thats not quite true... the is a connected story line in LoZ. some Links are the same, some are not. wind waker points this out. for instance, links' awakening is a direct sequal to link to the past. there are others too.
as for the mana series, yes they are like the FF series, some similarities but all seperate entities.
Snapple
06-07-2007, 08:05 PM
I know I'm changing the subject, but as long as we're on the topic of Mana games, has anyone played Dawn of Mana yet? I haven't seen it discussed on the board at all.
Most of the reviews for the game have been really bad, but I like the Mana series, and I've been considering getting it anyway just because it's a Mana game.
studvicious
06-07-2007, 08:44 PM
thats not quite true... the is a connected story line in LoZ. some Links are the same, some are not. wind waker points this out. for instance, links' awakening is a direct sequal to link to the past. there are others too.
That's pretty debatable, personally I don't feel that it's a sequel to ALTTP. As far as I'm concerned Phantom Hourglass will be the first TRUE Zelda sequel. (To WW of course).
Sorry to sidetrack this thread.
Cobra Commander
06-08-2007, 12:42 AM
That's pretty debatable, personally I don't feel that it's a sequel to ALTTP. As far as I'm concerned Phantom Hourglass will be the first TRUE Zelda sequel. (To WW of course).
Sorry to sidetrack this thread.
Well the Adventure of Link was a direct sequel to the original LoZ right?
Icarus Moonsight
06-08-2007, 03:33 AM
Sword of Mana on GBA is a remake of the original titled Final Fantasy Adventure here in the US... it was woefully overlooked, for what it is.
I don't know if there is a chronological order to Mana. It seems to be a common tale that occurs in different realities (perhaps parallel?) each incarnation. They seem to have dropped the ball with Dawn. It looks nice and all but, I'd rather have seen something simular to Odin Sphere. The world is lacking 2D action-RPGs and I see Dawn as an abortion of possibility for the comfort and safety that 3D nets you these days.
I'm fairly amped up for Heroes however. Taking the series RTS might be a good move... but then again... time will tell.
studvicious
06-08-2007, 10:37 AM
Well the Adventure of Link was a direct sequel to the original LoZ right?
Well, other than that one. ;)
Mayhem
06-08-2007, 10:45 AM
Link's Awakening is a sequel to LttP and Majora's Mask is a sequel to OoT. Generally they go in pairs ;)
Raedon
06-08-2007, 07:24 PM
I got 15 hours into Dawn of Mana before I chunked it off my terrace. It's KH2 without a solid story and it brought the pain!
Shame on Square/Enix - that's two in a row with major suckage.
Well, other than that one. ;)
Don't forget Majora's Mask, direct sequel to OOT.
Jorpho
06-08-2007, 10:06 PM
Link's Awakening is a sequel to LttP
Despite what the manual says, this point seems to frequently be in dispute, even in official interviews with the developers.
I've read some pretty nice fan-written chronologies that weave fairly consistent, logical, and entertaining narratives using terms like Zelda the Second and Link the Third.
Snapple
06-08-2007, 10:32 PM
Link's Awakening could fit with any of the Zelda continuities.
Or none of them.
RugalSizzler
06-09-2007, 12:33 AM
Note all the Mana games is really Final Fantasy Gaiden. So it is like.
Secret Of Mana --------The remake is the same thing but they remove the Cocobot and have alternative stories.
--------------------------Legend Of Mana Then again this game was sappose to be the real IV
Secret Of Mana II
Secret Of Mana III
Secret Of Mana IV
Link's Awakening could fit with any of the Zelda continuities.
Zelda: OTT ( Zelda Garden )
Zelda: LTTP ( Zelda 16-bit/ Desert Magic/Garden )
Zelda ( Zelda Desert Magic )
Zelda II ( MMOOOoorREee Zelda Desert Magic / Oceania )
Zelda: LA ( Zelda Islander / Oceania )
Think about the series like this.
Garden- before Ganons uprising
Desert- The Days of Ganons Rule
Ocean- The times after Ganons downfall
The series moves around Ganons Rule Timeline. Generally Nintendo forgot about the Zelda order long time ago. After Zelda: MM the series was derailed.
Chaz From Phantasy Star 2
06-11-2007, 05:04 AM
The original game was a sort of Final Fantasy (the original title was Final Fantasy Gaiden: Seiken Densetsu, or something like that). But after that the series went their separate ways.
Jorpho
06-11-2007, 07:37 AM
No, it was just Final Fantasy Adventure in North America, and Final Fantasy Mystic Quest in Europe. In Japan it was just Seiken Densetsu and it had no direct relation to Final Fantasy. (Presumably the alternate names were just a marketing thing.)
Chaz From Phantasy Star 2
06-11-2007, 05:03 PM
Holy freaking crap! Why does GameFAQs say for the Japanese name...
http://www.gamefaqs.com/portable/gameboy/data/563272.html
Jorpho
06-11-2007, 06:36 PM
Huh. Well, that's a new one on me. I have been schooled this day.
(I do not regard Gamefaqs's release data as particulary reliable, but in this case Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_Adventure) backs it up.)
Chaz From Phantasy Star 2
06-11-2007, 10:29 PM
I have been schooled this day.
Whenever dealing with me, you had better get used to it..............
Icarus Moonsight
06-12-2007, 04:23 AM
Here's the wiki:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seiken_Densetsu:_Final_Fantasy_Gaiden
I thought it odd that I've yet to see Seiken Densetsu (the japanese release) refered to as a Final Fantasy game until now. Was certain it was only a US thing...
After reading the wiki though it becomes evident why they were intertwined, even if in title only (working title was Gemma Knights, was in developement before Final Fantasy and Seiken Densetsu was registered in 1987... neat!). In short it was squares project before Final Fantasy but, was placed on the back burner (most likely due to the Dragon Quest upheaval at the time) so they could release Final Fantasy first. They were not intended to be intertwined but they were eventually. Name recognition ya know. ;) It's great to learn something new about something you thought you had pinned down. That was fun! :D