Racism in videogames?

[tmc]

Well is there any?

When looking at current affairs i like to look for either direct or abstract comparisons in videogames.

With the recent UK Big Brother 'racism' issue rearing it's head once more i wondered if racism has ever been apparent in videogames, either overtly or more subtly.

If developers have allowed their racist, homophobic and sexist views to seep through when creating film and music then surely it has happened over the last 30 years of videogame development?

If so then was it's depiction in VG's worse 10 or 20 years ago when racism was more acceptable or did the lack of technology then mean that any references were too abstarct to be widespread?

Is it worse today in VG's now that we have the means to portrait charactors of different races and even set whole games arouund racial sterotypes, or is it just too much of a 'hot potato' in 2007?

I'm not looking at the rights and wrongs of it, like i said, just like to see the reflection of real world issues through the lineage of videogames.

Any thoughts?

[j_factor]

Well, Custer's Revenge is pretty obvious. :p

I also remember there was a Genesis game, I think it was DJ Boy, that had to be edited for Western releases because of racism.

[tom]

Pac-Man
Pokemon

[tmc]

pac man?

pokemon?

interesting - could you explain why?

[MarioMania]

WTF are you saying Pac-Man for

[goemon]

Pokemon had one pokemon which was based on blackface, if I recall correctly. That caused a bit of a stir in the US. How Pac Man is racist is beyond me, though.

[OatBob]

In '99 a PC fps called Kingpin was considered racist because your a white guy doing crime and violently beating and killing all types of people but whites. Then again, they said the same about GTA III. We know how that turned around... with two sequels with a character reversal featuring a latino and a (homie) mowing down the whities.

Another game accused of being racist was Shadow Man from '99 once again. Some said that since the main character uses voodoo magic for attacks, the game paints a gross misrepresentation of Hatian culture. Similar things can be said of Dhalsim (of Street Fighter fame) and yoga practitioners.

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Honestly, I think all these are questionable and there are bigger issues to be concerned about ethics in gaming, like the use of children in violent roles, and unbridled sexism. (wait, what am I saying, I'm a guy and actually like some of that stuff)

So long as racism is present in society some folk will try and find it elsewhere, even if there is no salt to it.

[PSXferrari]

Pokemon had one pokemon which was based on blackface, if I recall correctly. That caused a bit of a stir in the US. How Pac Man is racist is beyond me, though.

Pac-Man is racist against yellow people. As for other games, I've noticed stereotypes, especially in fighting games and RPGs. Mostly it's the way black characters in those games are portrayed. Other genres too-- like Cole in Gears of War. However, I thing this is usually done so subtlely that people barely notice, or don't care. I don't personally see any problem with it. Games like Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas also have a lot of ethic slurs, but I think this adds more realism to the dialogue rather than being offensive.

There are issues of racisms against whites in video games too. Like in Madden 07, where Daunte Culpepper has a higher rating than Brett Favre. Clear racism. But these anti-white sentiments have been perpetuated throughout sports video game history. Just think back to Tecmo Super Bowl, where Bo Jackson and Christian Okoye were able to completely destroy any white people who crossed their path. Now that game just completely crossed the line and is probably only rivaled by Pac-Man as the most racist game of all time.

[Push Upstairs]

Another game accused of being racist was Shadow Man from '99 once again. Some said that since the main character uses voodoo magic for attacks, the game paints a gross misrepresentation of Hatian culture. Similar things can be said of Dhalsim (of Street Fighter fame) and yoga practitioners.

Were his attacks based on *ACTUAL* Voodoo or just what is commonly considered Voodoo?

[p_b]

Wasn't it mentioned in Game Over by David Sheff that Nintendo had to edit quite a few of their games when porting them from the Famicom to the US market, as in quite a few games all the baddies were black whereas all the good guys white? I might be completely off track here though...

And then of course, there are quite a few racist homebrew games, but I doubt you meant them...

[Blitzwing256]

check out the famicom version of tom sawyer, if that doesn't scream racism then I dunno what is ;-)

[GrandAmChandler]

BLATANT RACISM here.

http://web.mit.edu/innovation/blog/uploaded_images/punchout.png

This scene obviously portrays DOC (African American) stealing Little Mac's (Caucasian) bicycle.

It's a Travesty really. :(

[mailman187666]

I know a racist game. Remember in that older Waynes Brothers movie "Don't Be A Menace to South Central While Drinking Your Juice In the Hood" well there is a scene at the police station and all the cops are standing around an arcade machine in which they beat down Rodney King in the game. There was another arcade game in the liquor store in the movie too but I don't think you actually get to see what it is.

[Kitsune Sniper]

Several Japanese artists depict black folks as having huge lips. And I mean huge.

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/d/d7/AssistantBlack.gif

This isn't so much racism as it is simple exaggeration of features. Kinda like how all Americans are white, freckled and blonde, or how Mexicans always wear sombreros and ponchos and have mustaches. (Edit: I'm talking about Japanese media.) It's just different culture, and these days, some manga artists are moving away from that style, drawing black people in a more normal manner.

[CartCollector]

What about the Punch-Out!! series? You might not say it's holding one group above another, but it does have a whole bunch of stereotypes. Also, Nintendo sort of chickened out with their own nationality in Super Punch-Out!! by making the Japanese guy more of a homosexual stereotype than a Japanese one.

Oh, and read this. (http://www.lakupo.com/grblitz/racism.htm)

[bangtango]

There are issues of racisms against whites in video games too. Like in Madden 07, where Daunte Culpepper has a higher rating than Brett Favre. Clear racism. But these anti-white sentiments have been perpetuated throughout sports video game history. Just think back to Tecmo Super Bowl, where Bo Jackson and Christian Okoye were able to completely destroy any white people who crossed their path. Now that game just completely crossed the line and is probably only rivaled by Pac-Man as the most racist game of all time.

Is this serious or a joke? In this day and age, Brett Favre throws enough picks in real life that I'd expect him to be behind a lot of quarterbacks, black or white. A guy gets old and his stats go down, which is why Patrick Ewing had such crummy numbers (and performance) in games like NBA Live 2002/2003.

Check the Madden 07' stats of ham-and-eggers like Jeff Blake, Tony Banks, Cleo Lemon, Charlie Batch or Kordell Stewart (assorted black quarterbacks) to see if Madden inflates their stats compared to the Kurt Warner's, J.P. Losman's or Jake Plummer's (assorted white quarterbacks) of the world.

As for Tecmo Bowl, you forgot to mention Lawrence Taylor who was nearly unstoppable. The game isn't racist, though. I watched him on tv and Bo Jackson ran over a bunch of white guys, including Brian Bosworth, in real life so it isn't too much of a stretch to think he'd trample defensive ends in a video game. It won't be balanced because most white running backs in the NFL are scrubs, that has been the case for years :)

[tom]

Pong (It's racist against round balls)

[bangtango]

Beat 'Em & Eat 'Em is racist against blue balls.

[Gapporin]

Oh, and read this. (http://www.lakupo.com/grblitz/racism.htm)

It's good to see that tony_good is still finding work these days.

[Pantechnicon]

The worst case I've seen of it lately is in Eye Toy Play2 for the PS2. In the boxing game, when you get to the heavyweight and super-heavyweight rounds you face these opponents - both black men - that really don't seem terribly complimentary to persons of African descent. The old racial slur "spearchuckers" comes to mind when you see these guys. They stopped just short of putting bones through their noses. Honestly, they make Kamala the Ugandan Giant look like Bryant Gumbel. It's pretty bad :shameful:

[PSXferrari]

Is this serious or a joke? In this day and age, Brett Favre throws enough picks in real life that I'd expect him to be behind a lot of quarterbacks, black or white. A guy gets old and his stats go down, which is why Patrick Ewing had such crummy numbers (and performance) in games like NBA Live 2002/2003.

Check the Madden 07' stats of ham-and-eggers like Jeff Blake, Tony Banks, Cleo Lemon, Charlie Batch or Kordell Stewart (assorted black quarterbacks) to see if Madden inflates their stats compared to the Kurt Warner's, J.P. Losman's or Jake Plummer's (assorted white quarterbacks) of the world.

As for Tecmo Bowl, you forgot to mention Lawrence Taylor who was nearly unstoppable. The game isn't racist, though. I watched him on tv and Bo Jackson ran over a bunch of white guys, including Brian Bosworth, in real life so it isn't too much of a stretch to think he'd trample defensive ends in a video game. It won't be balanced because most white running backs in the NFL are scrubs, that has been the case for years :)



You played NBA Live 02/03? That's racist against good basketball games. As for Tecmo Super Bowl, you're right, I forget all about LT. Rumor had it that the developers made it so he got a triple speed burst while rushing a white quarterback. Not so against black QBs. One time I was playing as Randall Cunningham (QB Eagles), and LT was slowly chasing him down. Well, Randall got tired of it and sacked LT, then ran for an 80 yard TD. Now, of course, you're right about Bo Jackson trampling white people in real life. He was also known for his incredible ability to zigzag from side-line to side-line as defenders dived all over the place trying to tackle him. This is because Tecmo was a sponsor of the NFL and paid them to make sure this happened, so it would make the racism in their games seem more realistic. Also, during the summer after college, the real Brian Bosworth was killed in a tragic forklift accident. As a result, Tecmo replaced him with a robot look-alike that was programmed to be run over by black players. That's why he sucked in the NFL.

All of the above information is true fact and anyone disagreeing with that is a racist too.

[wallydawg]

Pokemon had one pokemon which was based on blackface, if I recall correctly. That caused a bit of a stir in the US. How Pac Man is racist is beyond me, though.

I know mudkips are now a meme but that has nothing to do with blackface.

What about whomp 'em?

[noname11]

There's the "KKK" version of SMB 2, among others


on a side note, type "censored eleven" into a youtube search and you get to see old american cartoons in their racist glory.

my fav is the Bugs Bunny "Nips the Nips" cartoon..... its just evil and racist beyond defense!

[Clownzilla]

Pacman = A YELLOW Pac Man eating WHITE dots. I think that Namco is possibly hiding some deep dark hatred for the white man portrayed by the Japanese.

All the NHL games = No black people (maybe a couple, but that's not enough).

Track & Field = the black man is ALWAYS player 2 (stating that black people are not good enough to be player 1).

[XianXi]

Any billiards game that ends when the white ball knocks the black ball off the table[/Martin Lawrence in Boomerang]

[Graham Mitchell]

Japanese games really push the envelope on this sometimes. Photoboy, a great, unique little PC Engine game by Irem has a "ghetto" level, full of the most racist shit I've ever seen in a game. Michael Jackson is even seen dancing there.

There's a Famicom-only Castlevania game that I've got...it's called "Denetsu Akimoju Special" or something (I don't really know what the heck it's called), but it's essentially a kids' Castlevania game that Konami did. The first level boss appears to be a typical halloween-costume ghost--a dude in a sheet. But as you attack him he runs off the screen and returns much larger. With the bigger sprite you can see that the hood on the sheet is pretty pointy, and there's a swastika on it. So, he's not a ghost. He's a klansman.

Though not really racist, don't forget the Japanese Bionic Commando, better known as "Top Secret: the Resurrection of Hitler". The game is loaded with swastikas.

I can't believe Punch-Out! wasn't mentioned in the first post. Soda Popinski is called "Vodka Drunkinski" in the Japanese version.

[Clownzilla]

Japanese games really push the envelope on this sometimes. Photoboy, a great, unique little PC Engine game by Irem has a "ghetto" level, full of the most racist shit I've ever seen in a game. Michael Jackson is even seen dancing there.

Lol, I played Photo Boy for the first time just a couple of days ago (small world we are in). Anyway, it's an excellent game (that I never heard of), but when I played the ghetto level, my jaw dropped. I could not beleive that they could release something like this without getting flak from some human rights group. It's still a pretty good game though.

[Push Upstairs]

What about whomp 'em?

Th odd thing is the game was turned into that *FOR* the Western market.

[Blackcrow]

As for other games, I've noticed stereotypes, especially in fighting games and RPGs. Mostly it's the way black characters in those games are portrayed.


Like Final Fantasy VII, poor Barret Wallace, portrayed as a steroid using madman who's only goal in life is to talk about the kid and cuss. Ah @$#% Where the $#@* are we going? If you ever seen Taxi Driver and that crazy black guy walking down the street yelling. Well that is Barret.

[Kitsune Sniper]

Japanese games really push the envelope on this sometimes. Photoboy, a great, unique little PC Engine game by Irem has a "ghetto" level, full of the most racist shit I've ever seen in a game. Michael Jackson is even seen dancing there.

There's a Famicom-only Castlevania game that I've got...it's called "Denetsu Akimoju Special" or something (I don't really know what the heck it's called), but it's essentially a kids' Castlevania game that Konami did. The first level boss appears to be a typical halloween-costume ghost--a dude in a sheet. But as you attack him he runs off the screen and returns much larger. With the bigger sprite you can see that the hood on the sheet is pretty pointy, and there's a swastika on it. So, he's not a ghost. He's a klansman.

Though not really racist, don't forget the Japanese Bionic Commando, better known as "Top Secret: the Resurrection of Hitler". The game is loaded with swastikas.

I can't believe Punch-Out! wasn't mentioned in the first post. Soda Popinski is called "Vodka Drunkinski" in the Japanese version.

The game is Akumajou Special: Boku Dracula Kun (which I hacked to English.) The NES version was never released stateside, but the Game Boy sequel was. The Klansman was in there, but the swastika was removed so the guy now looks more like a ghost or something.

And Bionic Commando's still got Hitler at the end. They forgot to remove him!

[ryborg]

All the NHL games = No black people (maybe a couple, but that's not enough).

I always loved how RBI Baseball was able to get the MLBPA license, but didn't have the idea to make the players anything other than white. There's nothing better than a white Dwight Gooden pitching to a white Don Baylor while a white Ozzie Smith steals second.

[cyberfluxor]

I always loved how RBI Baseball was able to get the MLBPA license, but didn't have the idea to make the players anything other than white. There's nothing better than a white Dwight Gooden pitching to a white Don Baylor while a white Ozzie Smith steals second.
Haha. I don't play many sports games and have never played a single RBI game but this sounds funny. That sounds like one hell of a budget they had (or some really stupid designers).

[Neil Koch]

In '99 a PC fps called Kingpin was considered racist because your a white guy doing crime and violently beating and killing all types of people but whites. Then again, they said the same about GTA III. We know how that turned around... with two sequels with a character reversal featuring a latino and a (homie) mowing down the whities.


There hasn't been a latino protagonist in a GTA game.

There was a pretty big "controversy" by Haitian groups about Vice City, which cause Rockstar to take out the offending "Kill all the Haitians!" line.

Of course by that time, the game had already sold millions of copies :/

[Griking]

I remember that people were bitching about Shadow Warrior (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_Warrior) a few years back about racist content.

Would you consider games such as Rednect Rampage as being racist?

[Richter Belmount]

Mario is racist for being a italian stereotype.
pac man is a racist eating people of different color.

[Frica89]

The only way Pac-Man could be racist is if they changed him to "Black Man" and had him running from the Klan while gobbling up fried chicken and, for bonus points, the occasional watermelon.

Anyone who seriously says Pac Man's racist is a dumbass.

[exit]

Mario is racist for being a italian stereotype.
pac man is a racist eating people of different color.

But the people of color are trying to kill him, it's clearly self defense.

[exit]

From what I've read, the Tom Sawyer game made by Square has crudely drawn black people.


Mario is racist for being a italian stereotype.
pac man is a racist eating people of different color.

But the people of color are trying to kill him, it's clearly self defense.

[PSXferrari]

Anyone who seriously says Pac Man's racist is a dumbass.


Anyone who seriously defends Pac Man as if the people calling it racist are being serious is a dumbass.

[RugalSizzler]

There is no erasist videogames only erasict people. A character might have a certain line or that does not mean anything.

If you mean things like the black guy dies then yes they have done it in WInback


Several Japanese artists depict black folks as having huge lips. And I mean huge.

Negros do have big lips and duh it is called a stereotype.

In American cartoon asian people is put under one class just like real life and al the Irish guys and Negros are heros. Note that in real life Irish people are treated like crap by the english and Black people have next to nothing. This is just the way the writer or in most cases the producers feels how to do justice.

As with the Boondocks where they make Opera the first woman/black president. When in real life Opera used her moleste stories and recovery to gain her success helping other victims of the world. Opera is just a rape victim
or somebody who is brainwashed and has been using that for years.

Japanese Artists are not not being rasict they are only being truthfull.
All artist does this from time to time. Also Anime is simplier and less discriptive. The only reason the big lip stereo type is there is that is that there is people are black in Japan but they are not Nigrean, Negro, or have anything related to Africa.


all Americans are white, freckled and blonde

Irish, Italians, and Jews is listed under white. British people are in there too and Russian are really Asians but since they fall under blonde they too are white. Pueto Ricans is also white but because of the diffrent colored people they are listed under Latinos.

I know these are stupid listings but that is how dumb our job system is. If they would just get rid of the White, Black, Latino, Asian, selection system and ask a diffren tquestion we a ll would be happier.

What is even dumber is that being is Jew is belonging to a relgion but they are like another false group. The gays which makes no sense at all. You can thank Hitler for this.


Mexicans always wear sombreros and ponchos and have mustaches.

They wear that stuff all the time hud???? I have seen people come across the border wearing that stuff all the time. Next your going to say is wrong to draw a Mexican playing Soccer or big nipped women from Brasil.


It's just different culture

Japanese people do not care about this stuff. They even have characters called blackie and Whitie in Comics, Animes, Videogames, and movies. It is not
a big deal.


these days, some manga artists are moving away from that style, drawing black people in a more normal manner.

Soooooooooooooo you are happy that Nipponese Artists are drawing more detailed like AmericansROFL Who is the rasict person nowROFL. NExt your going to say that Indian fellow in DBZ should not be so black skinned when there is no black people in IndiaROFL]

80's to 90's style anime was and still is the best and if you don't understand then look agian at the world.



Pokemon had one pokemon which was based on blackface,

No pokemon had Blackie ( UMbreon ) which was pretty much the black beast od the G/S pokemon besides that G-Zilla.



Like Final Fantasy VII, poor Barret Wallace

Barret had his arm torned off, his family and freinds murdered right before his eyes, and his best freind went mad. #$$%# the @#%#%$ you think anybody is going @#$## talk like after having there %#$# killed by #$## Shinra ruling
the world and running $#@@ things.

Barret is also old and older people have the right to use profanity when they need to burn pressure. Barret also works in a place where people do curse alot like at my old/current job where nobody gets #$@@!4$# paid $%@.



Rednect Rampage as being racist?

People are really like that in the USA.



All the NHL games = No black people (maybe a couple, but that's not enough).

That is true in real life. I have a freind who is in the big leauges now and he allways fought that black people created street hockey. He loves hockey soo much too. Things like this bothers everybody but still that is true.



Photoboy,

I do not know what you talking about. That game looks funny. Also the thing is people still don't understand Negros nore diffrences of people. In real life you take photographs of such things in real life.

Like the picture of detroit cop in South Africa. That was a classic.


Denetsu Akimoju Special

The KKK mimiced the Holy knights attire and some people liek you don't get it.
Also is traditional wear in some armies of the world still. This is also present in Zelda, Final Fantasy, Grandia, Megaman Legends, and many more games.

Again this kind of out look does not exsist in the East only in the west.

[pragmatic insanester]

i've mentioned this before, but the Super Famicom version of Final Fight has the enemies with much darker skin tones. about 80% seem to be black or hispanic.

[badinsults]

lots and lots of ignorant banter


I smell the ban cannon!

[PSXferrari]

There is no erasist videogames only erasict people. A character might have a certain line or that does not mean anything.

If you mean things like the black guy dies then yes they have done it in WInback



Negros do have big lips and duh it is called a stereotype.

In American cartoon asian people is put under one class just like real life and al the Irish guys and Negros are heros. Note that in real life Irish people are treated like crap by the english and Black people have next to nothing. This is just the way the writer or in most cases the producers feels how to do justice.

As with the Boondocks where they make Opera the first woman/black president. When in real life Opera used her moleste stories and recovery to gain her success helping other victims of the world. Opera is just a rape victim
or somebody who is brainwashed and has been using that for years.

Japanese Artists are not not being rasict they are only being truthfull.
All artist does this from time to time. Also Anime is simplier and less discriptive. The only reason the big lip stereo type is there is that is that there is people are black in Japan but they are not Nigrean, Negro, or have anything related to Africa.



Irish, Italians, and Jews is listed under white. British people are in there too and Russian are really Asians but since they fall under blonde they too are white. Pueto Ricans is also white but because of the diffrent colored people they are listed under Latinos.

I know these are stupid listings but that is how dumb our job system is. If they would just get rid of the White, Black, Latino, Asian, selection system and ask a diffren tquestion we a ll would be happier.

What is even dumber is that being is Jew is belonging to a relgion but they are like another false group. The gays which makes no sense at all. You can thank Hitler for this.

.

They wear that stuff all the time hud???? I have seen people come across the border wearing that stuff all the time. Next your going to say is wrong to draw a Mexican playing Soccer or big nipped women from Brasil.



Japanese people do not care about this stuff. They even have characters called blackie and Whitie in Comics, Animes, Videogames, and movies. It is not
a big deal.



Soooooooooooooo you are happy that Nipponese Artists are drawing more detailed like AmericansROFL Who is the rasict person nowROFL. NExt your going to say that Indian fellow in DBZ should not be so black skinned when there is no black people in IndiaROFL]

80's to 90's style anime was and still is the best and if you don't understand then look agian at the world.



No pokemon had Blackie ( UMbreon ) which was pretty much the black beast od the G/S pokemon besides that G-Zilla.



Barret had his arm torned off, his family and freinds murdered right before his eyes, and his best freind went mad. #$$%# the @#%#%$ you think anybody is going @#$## talk like after having there %#$# killed by #$## Shinra ruling
the world and running $#@@ things.

Barret is also old and older people have the right to use profanity when they need to burn pressure. Barret also works in a place where people do curse alot like at my old/current job where nobody gets #$@@!4$# paid $%@.



People are really like that in the USA.



That is true in real life. I have a freind who is in the big leauges now and he allways fought that black people created street hockey. He loves hockey soo much too. Things like this bothers everybody but still that is true.



I do not know what you talking about. That game looks funny. Also the thing is people still don't understand Negros nore diffrences of people. In real life you take photographs of such things in real life.

Like the picture of detroit cop in South Africa. That was a classic.



The KKK mimiced the Holy knights attire and some people liek you don't get it.
Also is traditional wear in some armies of the world still. This is also present in Zelda, Final Fantasy, Grandia, Megaman Legends, and many more games.

Again this kind of out look does not exsist in the East only in the west.




.... Dude. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? You took Kitsune Sniper the complete wrong way. (In fact, you took this whole topic the wrong way.) He meant that sometimes games stereotype white people by having only certain features and Mexicans as only wearing sombreros and having mustaches. He was not saying that this is actually true, but was giving it as an example of a type of false stereotype. So by "disagreeing" with him, you were actually agreeing with him. The rest of your stuff just makes no sense. You obviously don't live in the US, so why are you commenting on what life is like here? I normally wouldn't mind that, except that you have no clue what your saying. And who uses the word "negro" anymore? That term has been considered offensive since like the 1970s. We're all into retro stuff here, but that's taking it a bit far!

[Richter Belmount]

They wear that stuff all the time hud???? I have seen people come across the border wearing that stuff all the time. Next your going to say is wrong to draw a Mexican playing Soccer or big nipped women from Brasil.


Lol Er copter!

[Push Upstairs]

There is no erasist videogames only erasict people.

Awesome.

Ya know...

I just typed this naked with a towel over my lap.

[Pantechnicon]

There is no erasist videogames only erasict people.

http://www.sea.fi/foto/eraserhead.jpg

[ubikuberalles]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/ubikuberalles/photos%20for%20dp%20site/2007/erasist.jpg

[Snapple]

I know mudkips are now a meme but that has nothing to do with blackface.

Mudkip isn't the offensive pokemon, it's Jynx. And in fact, despite the fact that Jynx was not intentionally drawn to resemble blackface, two Jynx-related episodes from the early seasons of Pokemon were banned in America. In more recent seasons and games, Jynx has been changed from black to purple because of the controversy.

Although I do believe the likeness was unintentional, Jynx's old appearance clearly does look like blackface.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6e/Original_Jynx_design.png

[ubikuberalles]

There is no erasist videogames only erasict people.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v453/ubikuberalles/photos%20for%20dp%20site/2007/eraser.jpg

[RugalSizzler]

Jynx is the human shaped pokemon. If I had a Jynx think of the things we can do together. She also kisses alot. Not to mention her breast plates is obviously hiding something nice:above me:

The of Jynx as a XXX doll pokemon. Anyhows next your all going to start pointing to Cloyster and that tumble weed monster.

Again the idea of such ideas does not exsist in Japan. Only people who think such things should be considered outsiders. Stay out outsider bogiede bogie de booo!!!!

[Richter Belmount]

Onli 4 R4C1st wud Sey Tat!1 oU75ider5?

[Kitsune Sniper]

.... Dude. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??? You took Kitsune Sniper the complete wrong way. (In fact, you took this whole topic the wrong way.) He meant that sometimes games stereotype white people by having only certain features and Mexicans as only wearing sombreros and having mustaches. He was not saying that this is actually true, but was giving it as an example of a type of false stereotype. So by "disagreeing" with him, you were actually agreeing with him. The rest of your stuff just makes no sense. You obviously don't live in the US, so why are you commenting on what life is like here? I normally wouldn't mind that, except that you have no clue what your saying. And who uses the word "negro" anymore? That term has been considered offensive since like the 1970s. We're all into retro stuff here, but that's taking it a bit far!

Actually, WE still say negro. But that's because the Spanish word for black is negro. ;P z0mg I'mma racizt!

Also, it's friggin' Rugal. Or should I say... Gary Shandling?

And I can't believe I read his entire post. I did. I laughed.

[ubikuberalles]

And I can't believe I read his entire post. I did. I laughed.

Quick. Go to the doctor and get examined before your brain explodes.

[goemon]

I just had to sig that Jynx comment. Classic! Now I just have to find a XXX doll image of Jynx to go next to it... [shudder]

[RadiantSvgun]

Actually, WE still say negro. But that's because the Spanish word for black is negro. ;P z0mg I'mma racizt!

Lol Kitsune. I've never been that offended by anything I've played or seen since I've been gaming. I thought that Balrog/M. Bison was pretty bad, but then I learned that was supposed to be Mike Tyson. People are smarter now though, and are going to make a scene if they see something blatently racist. Remember Forgotten Worlds? I didn't see anything wrong with the guys in that game. Or Mutation Nation.

[Richter Belmount]

Jynx is the human shaped pokemon. If I had a Jynx think of the things we can do together. She also kisses alot. Not to mention her breast plates is obviously hiding something nice:above me:

The of Jynx as a XXX doll pokemon. Anyhows next your all going to start pointing to Cloyster and that tumble weed monster.

Again the idea of such ideas does not exsist in Japan. Only people who think such things should be considered outsiders. Stay out outsider bogiede bogie de booo!!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zZHe8hPNW-k

[Push Upstairs]

Jynx is the human shaped pokemon. If I had a Jynx think of the things we can do together. She also kisses alot. Not to mention her breast plates is obviously hiding something nice:above me:

The of Jynx as a XXX doll pokemon. Anyhows next your all going to start pointing to Cloyster and that tumble weed monster.

Again the idea of such ideas does not exsist in Japan. Only people who think such things should be considered outsiders. Stay out outsider bogiede bogie de booo!!!!

Why does a post about a Pokemon character blow-up doll somehow get your spelling to improve?

[Frica89]

Anyone who seriously defends Pac Man as if the people calling it racist are being serious is a dumbass.

I was pretty much referring to the post at the beginning that listed pac man, then pokemon. I did not detect sarcasm in that post because pac man was paired with a game that has had a controversial character, Jynx. I don't know if he was being serious or not, but even if he wasn't, that isn't my point.

I really just wanted to joke about a racist Pac Man variation, but at the end I felt the need to state the dumbassery involved with thinking Pac Man's racist because nowadays, people go around saying everything is racist. Don Imus or whatever the hell his name is says "nappy headed hoes" and we have the entire country's media go ballistic for weeks. I turn on my fucking TV and on every channel I have to hear about this bullshit, then the guy who wasn't even being deliberately racist gets fired for doing what he's supposed to do: go on the radio and make fun of people in the news. Oversensitive people look everywhere for racism and can find ways to stretch anything with their imaginations, even Pac Man.

[mario2butts]

The only way Pac-Man could be racist is if they changed him to "Black Man" and had him running from the Klan while gobbling up fried chicken and, for bonus points, the occasional watermelon.

http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=blackman.swf

[Frica89]

http://server6.theimagehosting.com/image.php?img=blackman.swf

No. Fucking. Way.

[Iron Draggon]

lots and lots of ignorant banter


I smell the ban cannon!

oh good... Shenmuefan found his way back in... it would be a real shame for him to miss the opportunity to get banned again by missing out on this topic!

[Richter Belmount]

No. Fucking. Way.

I knew I was right imo.

btw http://youtube.com/watch?v=Bh9PVyuUpZY

[CartCollector]

There is no erasist videogames only erasict people.

You're right, Rugal. There is erascist people out there. And here they are. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MADtv_recurring_characters#The_Eracists) Horrible isn't it?

[Magnum]

I know these are stupid listings but that is how dumb our job system is.MY. GOD.

[Richter Belmount]

What?!

[AFGiant]

Richter Hai

[alxbly]

There was a game mentioned on the ASSEMbler forums a while ago. You can see the thread here:

http://assemblergames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13289&highlight=ethnic+cleansing

It was made by a Neo Nazi music label which got a lot of controvesy over it's content. Obviously it was just a ploy by the game creators to "publicize" their own agenda, and the entire videogaming press completely ignored it. Pretty nasty stuff though.

[Richter Belmount]

Well I was right about anti semitism being out of control these days..
But thats another story for a different day.

[Magnum]

What?!Did I understand RugalFizzler to refer to ethnic diversity as a "job system"?

[Push Upstairs]

Does anyone really take "The Sizz" seriously?

[goemon]

Does anyone really take "The Sizz" seriously?

No, but I think "The Sizz" is a seriously great nickname. It's like "The Fonz," only instead of being cool, "The Sizz" is his autistic cousin who stays in his bedroom all day posting nonsense on message boards.

[Push Upstairs]

You have my permission to use that nickname as much as you like.

[ccovell]

Did I understand RugalFizzler to refer to ethnic diversity as a "job system"?

No. In all fairness, I think if you reread his post, he is complaining about how limiting and inaccurate titles like "white", "black", etc are when it comes to ethnicity/language/nationality.

I've never seen this category mentioned on any job application, but then again, perhaps I haven't seen enough job applications...

[Richter Belmount]

noooooooooooooooooo rugalsizzler is banned I wanted to laugh at his face some more!

[Push Upstairs]

We shall ever forget "The Sizz".