Can fellow PS3 owners do me a favor?

[Anthony1]

I need my fellow PS3 owners to do me a quick favor. It will only take 5 minutes of your time, and it could end up helping you out as well. Here is what I need you to do.


1. Go to http://blog.us.playstation.com/ and register to be able to leave comments. Registering is very easy. All you need to do is enter an email and a user name.

2. Check the email for your new password, and then go back to http://blog.us.playstation.com/ .

3. Then pick one of the news items. Like the one about the 1.80 firmware. Scroll all the way down to the bottom to leave a comment.

Now, here is where I need you to do me a favor. Pretend that you have a HDTV that can only accept 1080i signals. It cannot accept 720p signals. Tell them how this deeply frustrates you, from the standpoint of being able to play games like Resistance: Fall of Man and Motorstorm in 480p. Ask them to please add a real scaling chip to an upcoming revision of the PS3 hardware.


Here is an example of a comment that I left:

Jack be nimble, Jack be quick, Jack please get us a real upscaling chip!

Seriously. Put a “REAL” upscaling chip into future PS3’s, so I can buy one and use it with my Sony HDTV. If I play Resistance or Motorstorm on my Sony HDTV, it ends up being 480p. 480p isn’t High Definition. 480p is crap. Come on Jack, you’ve got the power to change this! Quietly put a “real” scaling chip into future versions of your PS3, and the info will eventually hit the interwebs, and those of us with gimped scaling chips can bite the bullet and sell our current PS3’s and get a new one with the real scaling chip. You don’t even have to announce anything or address it publicly. The fact that virtually any $100 HDTV tuner box can scale 720p to 1080i, but a $600 PS3 can’t is a joke. You know it. Stop the maddness now!


this was a comment to a post by Jack Tretton. It's just a mere example of something you can say. Just say that you would love the PS3 to be able to scale 720p only games like Motorstorm and Resistance to 1080i, for the thousands upon thousands of us with slightly older HDTV's. If any $100 HDTV Tuner box can do it, so can the $600 PS3.


Also, help yourself by leaving any other comments regarding the PS3 and what Sony needs to do to improve the experience. The more and more individual people that complain about the lack of 720p to 1080i scaling for PS3 games, the more likely it is that Sony will finally do something to address the problem.

[shadowkn55]

You make it sound like software scaling is inherently inferior. If done properly, software scaling can be equal or better than hardware scaling. It all boils down to what the scaling algorithm is doing. Adding a scaler chip is unecessary when the ps3 has plenty of power to do it on its one. Just wait for the next firmware update and hope that feature is added.

[slip81]

Why not just get another HDTV? If you can afford to buy all three current gen consoles, plus things like projectors and receivers with lossless sound, surely you should be able to afford about $700 for a decent CRT HDTV, or about a grand for a flat panel one.

[Captain Wrong]

I know it may sound funny, but I'd be much happier with a larger library of games I actually want to play on the PS3 than a scaling chip.

[Lothars]

I know it may sound funny, but I'd be much happier with a larger library of games I actually want to play on the PS3 than a scaling chip.

I agree fully, who really cares about a scaling chip when they need to release more games.

[Anthony1]

Why not just get another HDTV? If you can afford to buy all three current gen consoles, plus things like projectors and receivers with lossless sound, surely you should be able to afford about $700 for a decent CRT HDTV, or about a grand for a flat panel one.


You mean to tell me, that I need to freaking buy a new HDTV, just because the Sony engineers were so retarded that they forgot to put in a 30 cent scaling chip that's included in cheapo $80 upconversion DVD players? I've used tons of various High Definition devices, and they've all had built in scalers. It's like a given for High Definition devices to have scalers.

So because of Sony's mistake, I have to go throw my HDTV in the garbage (A Sony HDTV none the less), just because it's a 1080i/480p HDTV? That's absolutely ridiculous.

[chicnstu]

So because of Sony's mistake, I have to go throw my HDTV in the garbage (A Sony HDTV none the less)[...]

Yeah, please do that. But instead of throwing it away just send it to me since I can't afford one.

[ProgrammingAce]

You mean to tell me, that I need to freaking buy a new HDTV, just because the Sony engineers were so retarded that they forgot to leave out a 30 cent scaling chip that's included in $80 upconversion DVD players? ... So because of Sony's mistake, I have to go throw my HDTV in the garbage (A Sony HDTV none the less), just because it's a 1080i/480p HDTV?...

Yep, that's exactly what sony is telling you, but you bought the system anyway. And continue to buy (or in your case, i think you rent) the games for it.

You bought the system knowing the specs, and now you're angry because it doesn't have features they didn't advertise. Instead of asking a bunch of people to complain about an issue they don't have on sony's blog, how about you vote with your wallet instead?

[RPG_Fanatic]

Yeah, please do that. But instead of throwing it away just send it to me since I can't afford one.

HAHA!!!! good one

[s1lence]

I'll agree with the earlier point, give me some games so I even turn on my PS3, the ULTIMATE update machine. I'm still waiting for the patch that makes it go from crapacular to sucktastic.

[leicamaster]

Yep, that's exactly what sony is telling you, but you bought the system anyway. And continue to buy (or in your case, i think you rent) the games for it.

You bought the system knowing the specs, and now you're angry because it doesn't have features they didn't advertise. Instead of asking a bunch of people to complain about an issue they don't have on sony's blog, how about you vote with your wallet instead?



I agree with this dude!!!
You bought the machine! Dont be angry!!
Screw you!! We dont need complain about your own issue!
Im perfectly happy with my ps3!\\^_^/

[Anthony1]

You bought the system knowing the specs, and now you're angry because it doesn't have features they didn't advertise.



Actually, this is completely false. I bought the PS3, brought it home and hooked it up to a different TV in my house, and didn't notice the whole unable to scale 720p to 1080i thing, until a few weeks later when I read about it on some various message boards. When I first read about it, I actually didn't even believe it. I couldn't believe that it was possible, that a $600 supposed "Ferrari" of home video game systems, would leave out a chip that is found on virtually all High Definition devices. The thought never even crossed my mind. Even after hearing about it on some websites, I figured it was something that would be patched in a matter of days. Here we are, 7 months later, and this situation still hasn't been fixed. It boggles my mind that to this day, if I try to play Motorstorm or Resistance on my living room TV, the game is displayed at 480p.

The funny thing is, I'm not as pissed as alot of people are, because I have two other TV's that I use, that both are 720p compatible. There are alot of people out there, that don't have any other TV they can turn to. At least I have two other TV's I can use. For me, it's more of a nuisance than anything. It just sucks for me, cause sometimes I would really like to kick back in my living room and use the PS3 in there, but I don't because 3/4ths of the games look like ass. So as far as my PS3 is concerned, my living room TV doesn't exist.


For everybody else, that is crying about the lack of software, well this blog is your chance to directly tell Sony something about it. What I'm trying to ask my fellow DP brethren, is that while you are going to bitch about some other topic that bothers you, could you also do me a favor and bitch about the fact that they forgot to put in a 1 dollar scaling chip that's included on every $100 HDTV tuner or $80 upconversion DVD player.

Go ahead, bitch about the stuff that is really bothering you, but please throw that thing in there as well, so that when the bigwigs are reading all the complaints, they keep seeing the complaint about the lack of a true hardware scaling chip, a chip that would cost them less than a buck per unit, and then maybe they will wise the fuck up, and throw that chip in on future revisions of PS3 hardware. So that I can take my current PS3 and sell it for a $200 loss on Craigslist or Ebay, and buy another PS3, just to get a 1 dollar chip that should have been in there in the first FUCKING PLACE!

[ProgrammingAce]

The 1 dollar scaling chip that would cost sony $50 million to accomidate? Major bord revisions are expensive, it's not like there's a slot to drop the scaler in.

A.) You'd have a much better chance of getting a software scaler.

B.) You *really* don't want sony to add a $1 scaler chip. You get what you pay for.

C.) You need to be talking to Sony of Japan. Japan designs the consoles, they're willing to sacrifice the western market to gain marketshare in the east.

[Anthony1]

The 1 dollar scaling chip that would cost sony $50 million to accomidate? Major bord revisions are expensive, it's not like there's a slot to drop the scaler in.

A.) You'd have a much better chance of getting a software scaler.

B.) You *really* don't want sony to add a $1 scaler chip. You get what you pay for.

C.) You need to be talking to Sony of Japan. Japan designs the consoles, they're willing to sacrifice the western market to gain marketshare in the east.



A.) Software scaling for PS3 games is not going to happen. If they could use a software based method to scale 720p PS3 games to 1080i, it would have already happened by now.

B.) The Scaling chip in the Xbox 360 and virtually all HD devices, from Direct TV HDTV receivers to Comcast HDTV setboxes, would cost less than 1 dollar per unit. Of course, I'm talking about an order of 5 million chips, which is the kind of order that would be made anyways

C.) SCEA would communicate the displeasure of the Amercian consumers to Japan.

[Icarus Moonsight]

I use a converter that upscales an AV or S-Vid to RGB for my gaming systems. It's not as glorious as true RGB but it's close enough for me... cause it's within my means. When I am forced to buy a HD set then I'll upgrade to component for the newer systems but, all my old consoles will still go through the converter. At least until I can get ahold of a scart cable that I can hack to a 5 BNC for the older systems that support RGB. To quote an old cliche: Buyer beware. I thought interlaced images were inferior to pixelated anyway, despite the higher resolution (480p vs 1080i)... I'm not sure however. I'm not experienced with HD setups.

Case in point: <~~See my avatar. That is off my 21' VGA that my Wii is hooked up to with the converter from an AV source. The image was taken with a cheap old Kodak digital camera that is only 2-3 megapixel. Not too shabby... at least I think so.

Edit: I guess what I'm trying to say is, wouldn't it be more cost effective to buy a upscale converter than buy an updated PS3? I know it would be nice for these things to be native and/or in the hardware but, look at native VGA compatability of the Dreamcast (first console, that I'm aware of, that supported it). How was native VGA a benefit to consumers (most of which didn't use it) or Sega?

[ProgrammingAce]

A.) Software scaling for PS3 games is not going to happen. If they could use a software based method to scale 720p PS3 games to 1080i, it would have already happened by now.

There is no technical reason they can't do software scaling. So far they've just chosen not to.



B.) The Scaling chip in the Xbox 360 and virtually all HD devices, from Direct TV HDTV receivers to Comcast HDTV setboxes, would cost less than 1 dollar per unit. Of course, I'm talking about an order of 5 million chips, which is the kind of order that would be made anyways

The xbox 360's scaling chip was custom designed under the code name "Ana". For someone who is so into this kind of crap, i thought you would have done your research.

Read more about it here: http://www.xbox365.com/news.cgi?id=GGHiLLriir01032026

Here: http://www.unclegamer.com/news/discuss/xbox_360_hardware_scaler_exposed/

And here: http://arstechnica.com/articles/headstart.ars/2



C.) SCEA would communicate the displeasure of the Amercian consumers to Japan.

Just like they communicated the fact that the consumer isn't ready for a $600 console? So far, in the history of SCEA, japan has dictated procedures. This is not likely to change, especially due to some posts on a blog.


You can't out act me kid, i'm Alec Baldwin.

[Iron Draggon]

I'll agree with the earlier point, give me some games so I even turn on my PS3, the ULTIMATE update machine. I'm still waiting for the patch that makes it go from crapacular to sucktastic.

nominated for quote of the year...

LOL at this whole thing... Sony are 'tards for getting so caught up in fancy new expensive chips that they left out an obvious $0.99 special, and sorry to say it but Anthony1 is also a 'tard for being so anal about the whole issue...

bite the bullet and buy a new HDTV for your living room if you're so damn rich that you can afford to throw away $200 trying to correct a $600 mistake...

I mean seriously dude, take a look at your comments here... you're asking people to pretend that they're as rich as you so they can act like 'tards too...


Yep, that's exactly what sony is telling you, but you bought the system anyway. And continue to buy (or in your case, i think you rent) the games for it.

You bought the system knowing the specs, and now you're angry because it doesn't have features they didn't advertise. Instead of asking a bunch of people to complain about an issue they don't have on sony's blog, how about you vote with your wallet instead?

truer words were never said... quit being such a tech whore that you throw all logic out the window with all your money and then expect other people to pretend that they're wealthy tech whores like you so your problem is solved...

get real and squeal about what a fool you are for wasting all the money that you've already wasted, instead of whining about wanting to waste even more!

[gepeto]

Well I have an early model hdtv that I got from value city it is a 32 in crt sanyo. The pics are acceptable for components but the hdmi doesnt work. It only accpts signals in 1080i. That initially bummed me out but I took the system over to a friends house that had an newer tv and was blown away.

So I realize that I am going to have to one day get a new tv. The tv at the time was a doorbuster black friday special for 269.99 which was unheard of then. I called myself getting ready for the ps3 because I bought it a little about a year before its release.

When I bought my living room projector years ago I was doing the research and was almost tempted to by a similar tv with the same specs as yours. The pics was gorgeous I mean awesome but the format wasn't defined and most reviewers said wait. I picked up one that was a smaller screen but a little cheaper and more advanced technology. The lesson learned for me was when it comes to technology wait until it is in hand before buying accessories.

[mailman187666]

try playing some of the older PS2 games on it. Those will scale.

[Garry Silljo]

If I post anything it will be a warning for Sony that if they actually listen to you and put the chip in, rather than be happy you'll just bitch about something new. You can't and won't ever be satisfied so it isn't worth Sony's time to try and appease you. There will always be something more, and because you are such a whore, you'll have to have it and damn the company that doesn't make it for you.

Do they have rehab for people like you?

[exit]

So because of Sony's mistake, I have to go throw my HDTV in the garbage (A Sony HDTV none the less), just because it's a 1080i/480p HDTV? That's absolutely ridiculous.

Hell if you're that unhappy with Sony, send me the PS3 and I'll be sure to put it to good use. Boycott Sony and everything they stand for, that'll show em.

[Anthony1]

you're asking people to pretend that they're as rich as you so they can act like 'tards too...




If I was rich, I would have already updgraded from that 1080i only TV. I'm hardly rich. I make like $16.40 an hour, and I don't even work full 40 hour weeks. I wish I was rich, I would buy all kinds of shit. If you think I spend ridiculous sums of money on technological crap, just imagine how much I would spend if I was rich. If I was rich, I wouldn't have bought a $850 projector, and I wouldn't have painted my screen on my Garage wall for $40 in paint. I would have a specially designed theater room, with air-conditioning and heating, with a top of the line accoustically transparent draper screen that would likely cost 3 grand or more, and a 10 grand projector, with about 20 grand in audio. Instead, I'm using a painted on the wall screen in an un-airconditioned garage, with a receiver that cost me like $280 when it was brand new. Rich people spend more than $280 on their power strips.


Yes, I spend money on high tech shit. But I'm not rich in the least. I simply put any of my disposable income into that kind of stuff. Some people buy crack, some people buy beer, some people spend alot of money playing golf all the time, some people spend all their money on vacations, some people gamble, etc, etc. Whenever I have any extra money to spend (which isn't often by the way), I'll spend it on something electronics related, normally. Does this make me a spoiled rich person? I wish I was rich. I was $16.40 per hour was the wages of a rich man. Maybe if I lived in Ethiopia.

[Garry Silljo]

If I was rich, I wouldn't have bought a $850 projector,

This is how you lose people. I don't make much less than you. I pull in $13.41 an hour with time and a half after 40 hours and average 50 hours a week. If you work less than 40 as you say I should have more money than you. However I'm looking at my checking account and I don't see $850 sitting there so I can buy a projector. I don't even see $10.

All the things you type after that sentence had no impact on me because the first purchase is so large that none of the "sacrifices" diminish it. $850 is $850. I know for a projector that can actually be quite cheap, but it doesnt matter what the price is in relation to other things.... $850 is $850. You admit $600 is a lot for people to spend on a console, but then drop a figure like $850 and we're supposed to think you're poor? Are you just completely out of touch?

[exit]

If I was rich, I would have already updgraded from that 1080i only TV. I'm hardly rich. I make like $16.40 an hour, and I don't even work full 40 hour weeks.


If I was rich, I wouldn't have bought a $850 projector, and I wouldn't have painted my screen on my Garage wall for $40 in paint.

The fuck? You know, not everyone makes 16.40 an hour, in fact most people would kill to get paid that much. Most people contemplate throwing down for a $200 TV, let alone one that costs $850 fucking dollars and then buying a PS3 on top of that.

I just got paid today and I'm already down to $200, which will probably be less than $50 by next week. I'll be lucky if I even has enough money for gas, let alone worry about how good a video game would look on my TV

[Garry Silljo]

Most people contemplate throwing down for a $200 TV, let alone one that costs $850 fucking dollars and then buying a PS3 on top of that.

+ a 360, ... + a Wii, and the list goes on. Poor, poor Anthony, we really should pity him and help him achieve his goals of ultimate graphics snobbery.

[Anthony1]

The fuck? You know, not everyone makes 16.40 an hour, in fact most people would kill to get paid that much.


1.) I'm 36 years old, and will be 37 years old in late September. $16.40 per hour would be great if I was an 18 year old, but I'm not.

2.) I live in California. You know how expensive things are in California?




However I'm looking at my checking account and I don't see $850 sitting there so I can buy a projector. I don't even see $10.


The thing is, you make a comment like that, but in actuality, you are talking out of your ass. You don't have the slightest clue how long I had to save up to have the $850 to spend on that projector. You think I simply went to my ATM machine and withdrew $850? I don't have $850 sitting in my checking account. I had to save over a very long time to get that projector. I had to sell alot of personal items to generate extra cash to be able to buy it. I wish I was 1/5th as rich as people on these boards think I am.

[OdSquad64]

//me continues playing PS3 in 480i without a complaint

[exit]

1.) I'm 36 years old, and will be 37 years old in late September. $16.40 per hour would be great if I was an 18 year old, but I'm not.

So because you're 37 $16.40 is no big deal....right. Getting paid $16.40 would be great at any age, let alone the tender age of 18.

[Anthony1]

So because you're 37 $16.40 is no big deal....right. Getting paid $16.40 would be great at any age, let alone the tender age of 18.

Maybe in Idaho. But not in Northern California. When you are married and have two kids, and a mortgage and a car payment, etc, etc.

[Garry Silljo]

I had to save over a very long time to get that projector. I had to sell alot of personal items to generate extra cash to be able to buy it. I wish I was 1/5th as rich as people on these boards think I am.

People think that, because you never talk about saving or selling things to generate cash. You just throw out big numbers and big names. If you met someone who talked like you and you knew nothing about them, you would think the same thing. Along with the big name drops, VERY often accompanied with the price (a very snobby move), you tend to brag a lot with out realizing it, which is something a lot of rich people do.

You really can't be surprised when people draw the conclusions you work to lead them to. Also, if you're so hard up you could try being grateful for all of the things you've managed to acquire instead of just nitpicking it all to death and ruining it for yourself.

[heybtbm]

So because you're 37 $16.40 is no big deal....right. Getting paid $16.40 would be great at any age, let alone the tender age of 18.

$16.40 per hour works out to about $35,000 a year. That is not a lot of money. You can't even get a decent interest rate for a mortgage or new car loan making that kind of money. That's barely surviving in Wisconsin...I can't even imagine how it would be in California.

[exit]

Maybe in Idaho. But not in Northern California. When you are married and have two kids, and a mortgage and a car payment, etc, etc.

I know plenty of people that are married, have kids (some 3+), a mortgage to pay and all that other nonsense. They still barely manage to get by, that's with both of them working full time and some living on food stamps.

[Soviet Conscript]

......my commie senses detect rich people bashing....

i think garry said it best. anthony i wouldn't go so far as to say your some kinda rich snob but they way you talk some times gives the impression you are. personnaly i wish i made over $10.00 an hour. i have some pretty expensive video game stuff but i'm also over my head in debt. belive it or not i don't think the majority of people can easily afford all the technological wonders you possess and whining about them isn't going to win you any sympathy.

in anthonys defence i think he does do a fair share of bargin hunting so even though he has 3 HDTV's i beleive he stated he got these at a decent discount.

totally off subject but hey Garry, i live in canonsburg, so i'm like 10 minutes away from you.

[Garry Silljo]

totally off subject but hey Garry, i live in canonsburg, so i'm like 10 minutes away from you.

Indeed you are. I work in the Transformer plant by the Super 8 motel in Canonsburg, we probably hunt in a lot of the same stores... Cool.

[Anthony1]

$16.40 per hour works out to about $35,000 a year. That is not a lot of money. You can't even get a decent interest rate for a mortgage or new car loan making that kind of money. That's barely surviving in Wisconsin...I can't even imagine how it would be in California.


Finally. Some actual logic. This is exactly true. Plus, I don't even consistently get 40 hours per week. Some weeks I get 40, some I only get 24, it depends on our workload. I'm actually going to have to find a new job soon, because lately I've been getting 24 hours per week much more often than 40. When I first started at my current employer, back in 1998/1999, we always got 40 hours per week, and even got overtime too, but now, it seems a 40 hour work week is extremely rare, and it's making things more difficult.



People think that, because you never talk about saving or selling things to generate cash. You just throw out big numbers and big names. If you met someone who talked like you and you knew nothing about them, you would think the same thing. Along with the big name drops, VERY often accompanied with the price (a very snobby move), you tend to brag a lot with out realizing it, which is something a lot of rich people do.

You really can't be surprised when people draw the conclusions you work to lead them to. Also, if you're so hard up you could try being grateful for all of the things you've managed to acquire instead of just nitpicking it all to death and ruining it for yourself.

Here's the thing, why do I need to tell people about the fact that I'm saving up for something, or selling some of my personal items to get cash? If people think I'm super rich, that's their deal, not mine. I'm not going to post on a message board about how I have to save for months and months to afford a particular thing. Does anybody want to really hear about that? As far as selling my own personal things to scrape up money, I honestly figured that this is something that just about everybody does. Look at my thread in the buying and selling forum. I'm selling freaking magazines for 25 cents just to scrape up a bit of extra cash. Most people would rather just toss a mag into the garbage than to get a measly 25 cents for it, but every penny helps.

I'm actually very grateful for the things I've been able to acquire. What you think is bragging, is actually me not being able to contain my happiness with some of the stuff I've discovered. How much have I talked about the XRGB2+ device that allows me to play my retro games on my HDTV in true RGB? I talk about that alot, because it's just so fucking cool. IT"S COOL. not me. I'm not bragging about it, because it's something I have and other people don't. I'm talking about it, because I think it serves a very cool purpose, and I think there are alot of people out there that don't know of it's existence. It's something that alot of people should probably be interested in, and I just can't contain myself about stuff like that, I talk about it alot, in the hopes that I might convince somebody to try it out, so they can enjoy it just as much as I am. Same thing with my Projector. The reason I keep mentioning $850 over and over again, is because it's actually a very low price for a 720p DLP Projector. Something of this quality would have been 5 grand just 3 or 4 years ago. It's amazing how these projectors have become more affordable. I understand that $850 is still alot of money, but in the world of projectors and stuff like that, it's actually a drop in the bucket. I can see how it's very possible that I come off looking like a rich snob, but if that's the case, it's not intended. And for the people that take it that way, oh well, tough teets. I can't worry about everybodies opinion of me. I mean...honestly, does it look like I care much about other peoples opinions of myself? I'm willing to post a photo of myself that I know is going to be photoshoped and laughed at.... why?? Cause it doesn't really bother me. I'm secure in my self image. Your opinion doesn't waver me.


Guess what? I am rich!! I"M FUCKING FILTHY RICH!!! I won the lottery. Yeah, that's right... I won the freaking lottery and now I'm filthly rich. I've got my walls wallpapered with Gold NWC carts!

I'M RICH BITCHES!!!

[Soviet Conscript]

I can see how it's very possible that I come off looking like a rich snob, but if that's the case, it's not intended. And for the people that take it that way, oh well, tough teets. I can't worry about everybodies opinion of me. I mean...honestly, does it look like I care much about other peoples opinions of myself? I'm willing to post a photo of myself that I know is going to be photoshoped and laughed at.... why?? Cause it doesn't really bother me. I'm secure in my self image. Your opinion doesn't waver me.



well i'm glad your secure with yourself but the point is it does matter how you are seen by others here if your looking for help or sympathy. i'm just saying people are going to tend to crap on your thread if you come off as a rich snob. maybe if you were a little more low key on your expenses you wouldn't have the problem. i'm not trying to be a jerk just thought it may be helpful advice. though at this point your kinda well known so...

but for what its worth i do appriciate the info you have dispensed on RGB over the years. one day i may try it out.


I work in the Transformer plant by the Super 8 motel in Canonsburg, we probably hunt in a lot of the same stores... Cool.

small world. i used to live right next to that place. heh, after they leveled those buildings by it some years ago i thought it was shut down acually, guess not.

not many places to hunt around here....trader jacks isn't what it used to be. though that one guy inside has some ok deals sometimes.

[Garry Silljo]

Finally. I can't worry about everybodies opinion of me. I mean...honestly, does it look like I care much about other peoples opinions of myself?

Yes, yes it does. If you didn't, you wouldn't be replying to any of this.




@ Soviet Conscript .... it did close down, and re-opened under a new owner in 1997. I've only been there since 2005.

[Oobgarm]

Yes, yes it does. If you didn't, you wouldn't be replying to any of this.

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[Iron Draggon]

well here's an idea for you Anthony, why don't you try moving out of NorCal and move to an area that isn't infamous for being ridiculously expensive to live in? then you'd have tons more money to spend on all the latest tech shit!

when I was working in nightclubs, I made $3.50 an hour + tips, and I always got overtime... I averaged 60 hours a week... my tips tended to be $50 per shift, and I worked 5 shifts a week... so my average total income before taxes was $2000 a month... my rent was $500 a month, and the rest of my bills added up to another $500 a month... so I had $1000 a month expenses, and the other $1000 a month I spent on video games and other tech shit...

when I worked in liquor stores, I made $6.50 an hour and I only worked 30-40 hours a week... that basically cut my previous income in half, and I had to move back in with my parents to be able to continue collecting video games...

and yet I still bought nearly every single video game that I own brand new on the day that it was released... around $1500 games at $50 apiece... and that's not even counting what I spent on systems and related necessities like a 35" RGB TV to play all my games on... just my TV alone cost me $1500...

but I am not rich either... never have been and never will be... and now I too have had to sell all my old video game magazines and other gaming related non-necessities to be able to continue collecting video games... I can only afford to collect games for the PC now, and fill in the few remaining holes in the rest of my collection, because I stopped being able to afford all the new consoles and all the new games for them after the death of the Dreamcast...

however, I know that all the guys who worked at all the game stores that I bought all my games at every day back in the day all thought that I must be filthy rich to be able to drop the amount of money that I spent on games in their stores every day... they stopped even charging me $5 apiece for all the video game magazines that I read at the time, because of the seemingly insane amounts of money that I spent on games and systems in their stores...

yes, I was a tech whore too, and I still am to a very large degree... but the craziest thing you'll see me doing now is spending several hundred dollars on a single factory sealed game, just so I can open it and play it... that's the butt plug stuck up my ass... if it isn't factory sealed, then I don't want it...

but my point is that if I made $16.50 per hour and I only worked 30 hours per week, that would be the same amount of money that I was making when I was working in nightclubs... not even $30,000 a year... and yet somehow I managed to support myself as well as my gaming habit on just my meager wages alone, without the added advantage of having the second income of a spouse to help pay for necessities like rent and utilities... no I didn't have any kids, but that just meant that I didn't get any tax breaks, so in the end I didn't have any more to spend on tech shit than you do, I had even less...

but then I didn't live in NorCal either... I just lived in the 4th largest city in the nation... where the rent is much less than it is in NorCal... but then just about anywhere is a less expensive place to live than NorCal is, so there's your problem... get a new job in a new city with more reasonable rent, and watch in amazement as you suddenly find yourself with even more disposable income to spend on all the new tech shit that you so desperately crave...

got a huge mortgage? then sell the house for equity and move on... get out while you can... or just continue to whine about how "poor" you are, while you continue to live in an area that most people can't afford to live in, and you own a whole house full of tech shit that most people can't afford to buy!

[Anthony1]

... get a new job in a new city with more reasonable rent, and watch in amazement as you suddenly find yourself with even more disposable income to spend on all the new tech shit that you so desperately crave...



You know what, if it wasn't for my wife, I wouldn't be living in California period. Unfortunately, my wife's whole family lives here, and she couldn't stand to move away from her family. So I have to grin and bear it. And I'm not really complaining about having to live here, I can pretty much get by with everything the way it is. I have to sell things to scrape up some extra money to buy the shit I really want, but that isn't that big of a deal. I've got too much stuff laying around anways.

[chicnstu]

I'm not going to post on a message board about how I have to save for months and months to afford a particular thing. Does anybody want to really hear about that? As far as selling my own personal things to scrape up money, I honestly figured that this is something that just about everybody does. Look at my thread in the buying and selling forum. I'm selling freaking magazines for 25 cents just to scrape up a bit of extra cash. Most people would rather just toss a mag into the garbage than to get a measly 25 cents for it, but every penny helps.

I'm actually very grateful for the things I've been able to acquire. What you think is bragging, is actually me not being able to contain my happiness with some of the stuff I've discovered.

Those parts actually almost made me cry. That one post changed my mind about you. I used to think every post by you was just for attention or to show off but if what you said in bold there is true then I think it is perfectly fair for you to post about the things you have managed to get. Many people post often here about things they have managed to do/get after lots of work so why should you not get to?

I've been selling lots of my personal things too so I can get a 360 (to go with my Wii that I also worked VERY hard for) but I'm not going to post a topic about it because I have learned over the past 3 years here not to.

[Lothars]

You know what, if it wasn't for my wife, I wouldn't be living in California period. Unfortunately, my wife's whole family lives here, and she couldn't stand to move away from her family. So I have to grin and bear it. And I'm not really complaining about having to live here, I can pretty much get by with everything the way it is. I have to sell things to scrape up some extra money to buy the shit I really want, but that isn't that big of a deal. I've got too much stuff laying around anways.


It's just one of those things so I can fully understand that, it all works out in the end anyway. but that's a huge reason to stay where your at as well.

[Flack]

I don't know what the fuck happened to this thread, but I hope Anthony1 finds a new job where he gets paid a buck for each word he types and buy us all projectors next year. VIVA LA DIGITAL PRESS!

[heybtbm]

I don't know what the fuck happened to this thread, but I hope Anthony1 finds a new job where he gets paid a buck for each word he types and buy us all projectors next year. VIVA LA DIGITAL PRESS!

I think this thread ended pretty well.

[Iron Draggon]

I don't know what the fuck happened to this thread, but I hope Anthony1 finds a new job where he gets paid a buck for each word he types and buy us all projectors next year. VIVA LA DIGITAL PRESS!

ROFLMAO... I need a job like that myself!

Anthony, I do feel you on the sharing your excitement note... I find myself doing the same thing all the time... not just here on DP, but in emails, etc...

one thing's for sure, the harder you have to work to get something, the more you appreciate it... and women will fuck up every collecting goal you have!

being single and/or gay sure helps alot!

[Damaramu]

Some people have poor memories. I believe there are older topics that Anthony created or posted in; where he explains how he managed to score a lot of these higher end electronics for cheap through deals and very lucky finds.

[gepeto]

I don't know what the fuck happened to this thread, but I hope Anthony1 finds a new job where he gets paid a buck for each word he types and buy us all projectors next year. VIVA LA DIGITAL PRESS!

I have said it before that man is a one man show on the keyboards. He would have made a helluva classical pianoist.

I knew you were rich when you were showing pics of your garage setup inviting us down. Then I figured you were poor:) when you said there was no proper ac in the garage HA HA Ha. For the record I have no ac in the garage either.
Next time I see your sale I will make sure I buy some things off you for 50 cents.

[Dangerboy]

Anthony1:

Tell you what, get a petition signed to have the chip added. But to make it worthy, have them add this to the mix:


a) The two HDMI ports they promised
b) The 7 controllers on one system they promised
c) Apologize to the PS2 fans who never got the Online shit they promised the first time around (which they still haven't delivered on)
d) How about including, oh I dunno.....COMPONENT CABLES
e) Give Spider-Man his goddamn font back.

Then they can at least have a list to check off.

[hezeuschrist]

Thats not an addiction! I used to suck dick for Tech. Have you ever sucked dick for Tech?

[ProgrammingAce]

b) The 7 controllers on one system they promised


That one is probably not physically possible. The maximum number of connected devices on bluetooth is 7. For some strange reason it's illegal to have a device that uses separate radio's for bluetooth and wifi, which leaves the PS3 using a strange technique of alternating between transmitting bluetooth and wifi on a single antenna. With that kind of time-sharing, i don't think you can keep all 7 devices going. Besides, 7 player split-screen seems... difficult.

You'd have to talk to the FCC on that one.

As for xbox live style network play, it's unlikely to happen in this generation. Sony chose to use the traditional Server/Client model for networking. The developers provide massive server banks for players to use , whereas Xbox live is completely peer to peer. Microsoft provides the login servers, the match-making servers and the marketplace servers, the players host the games off of their own boxes (unbeknown to most people). It'll cost developers far more to follow sony's method, they will have to deal with a huge server ramp up when a game first ships, then deal with a bunch of empty servers 6 months later. Bandwidth costs will fall on the devs as well. Higher costs will mean less online games, and a much faster rate of shutting down online services. Anyone up for a game of MGS3 online? Oh wait... konami couldn't afford to keep the servers up anymore. Expect to see more of this on the PS3...

Edit: i guess i should say that there are definite benefits to sony's choice in networking. For one, the infrastructure is a thousand times easier to implement. When you're jammed up against the wall and have to deploy an online gaming network in less then a year, the client/server model is really your best option, it's tried and tested. In reality it's the extension of the PlayStation2 platform onto the PS3, without any major changes.

Microsoft had the benefit of having one of the largest online distribution networks in the world, take a look at the windows update page. They launched the xbox without any online features, but knew they would need a network that would scale to handle 20 million+ users. They had the luxury of designing xbox live over the course of 2 years. They forced sony to roll out their online system in order to compete, and sony was stuck developing a client/server system on the PS2. They never really had the chance to rebuild from scratch between the PS2 and the PS3.

Wait, WTF does this all have to do with a scaler chip?

[meancode]

You mean to tell me, that I need to freaking buy a new HDTV, just because the Sony engineers were so retarded that they forgot to put in a 30 cent scaling chip that's included in cheapo $80 upconversion DVD players? I've used tons of various High Definition devices, and they've all had built in scalers. It's like a given for High Definition devices to have scalers.

So because of Sony's mistake, I have to go throw my HDTV in the garbage (A Sony HDTV none the less), just because it's a 1080i/480p HDTV? That's absolutely ridiculous.

This is not Sony's fault Anthony1, this is your fault! How dare you be an early adopter. How dare you buy a HDTV that does not support 720p. You have some nerve, I tell ya.

[l_lamb]

I'll agree with the earlier point, give me some games so I even turn on my PS3, the ULTIMATE update machine. I'm still waiting for the patch that makes it go from crapacular to sucktastic.


Exactly! Every time someone comes over and wants to see the PS3 I have to do an update. Which takes way too much time - gotta get the 3' USB cord and plug the controller in to install the update??? By the time I can get a game running, it's either too late or they're playing 360.

I voiced my concerns last year in my Playstation GAP blog and for the most part got crapped on by fanboys. Later, others who didn't have their noses rammed up Sony's pujoles left more positive feedback. I have a five-year old Sony RPTV that also only supports 480p/1080i. I understand that even though the system specs say it supports 1080i, there's nothing saying that any games will support it. The back of the game lists which formats are supported. If 1080i isn't listed, I assume that I'll only get 480p. I make my voice heard by not buying those games.

The comment about the inclusion of component cables is right on. The cable that came with the 360 supported component and composite. Sony packed the PSone video cable with their Blu-Ray enabled super-duper HD gaming system. I also am disappointed in the "you have to use HDMI" to get surround sound from Blu-Ray and SACD. I'm using an optical cable running directly to my Sony reciever and can only get Dolby 5.1 from games. Plus the PS3 can only output audio from one port at a time, where the 360 puts audio through the optical and RCA jacks simultaneously. Sometimes I don't want the whole house shaking when I'm playing a game and its a bitch to have to change the settings every time. My $69 Samsung upconvert DVD player outputs HDMI and component at the same time, along with coaxial and analog audio. I know the $600 PS3 can do it too. And it'll show up in some random update after I don't care anymore.

Face it, the early adopters are beta testers when it comes to the PS3. It's just that I didn't sign up for it when I handed over $600. And a lot of other people have made the choice to not bother.

[mobile2k]

Spam Spam the magical fruit! The more you eat, the more you toot!

[Iron Draggon]

Thats not an addiction! I used to suck dick for Tech. Have you ever sucked dick for Tech?

oh yes, many times, and I still do... not to mention a few other manly things with another man as well... that's how I got my 2GB Kingston Hyper X DDR RAM upgrade for my PC... saved me $260... which I spent on PC games...

if you're gonna be a tech whore, then do it right and be a whore for tech! :ass: