tengen tetris VS. Nintendo's tetris

[Nero 99]

A freind of mine has tetris for the nes that he's willing to sell to me but I know that tengen made a teris as well so i was wondering if anyone has both versions could they tell me which one should i buy : nintendo's or tengen's?

[Parpunk]

i would say nintendos version looks way better, plays better, and would be my choice. plus its cheaper. Although the tengen version has some cool features too like 2 player co op, (both players play together on the same tetris grid) But the colors are just plain. If your a fan of tetris id say get both. :-) hope this helps

[DefaultGen]

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[diskoboy]

Tengen Tetris, by a landslide.

[theora]

Tengen, 100%.

[Damaramu]

I guess I'm in the camp that thought Tengen's Tetris was way overrated. My vote is for the Nintendo version.

[PSXferrari]

Hey Nero 99. Welcome to DP-- first thing you need to know is that almost no one here can read or think. Intelligence here is far higher than most message boards, but nontheless, it's still a message board. You asked "Which Tetris version should I buy?" and all except for a couple are answering the question, "Which Tetris version is a better game?" Wrong question guys.

To answer the question that you actually asked-- get the Nintendo version. Unless you're a seriously hardcore Tetris fan, you are hardcore into collecting for the NES, or you have a ton of money to just throw around for games, then there is no reason to get the Tengen version. Plus, right now you got a friend who will probably sell you his Nintendo copy for a couple dollars. If you're going after Tengen Tetris you will definitely be using the internet and paying $20-$40, and probably on the middle or higher end. If you fall into the categories I mentioned before, than go for it. But if you're just looking for some quick, fun Tetris action, the Nintendo version will satify and is the right fit for you.

Plus, if your friends selling it cheap, than why not buy it from him? And if you really get into it then you can consider paying Tengen's price for more action.

[Nero 99]

Thanks for the replys> from what it sounds like nintendos looks better but tengens has better features. ill get the nin tendo one for now then by a tengen one as soon as i find it.(for a good price that is)^^;

[NESaholic]

Tengen Tetris is far more superior then the Nintendo version, get that one.;)

[carlcarlson]

It sounds like you've made your choice, but I'll add my vote for the Tengen version (if you've got the money of course).

[DefaultGen]

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[suppafly]

The tengen tetris is much better for one huge reason: It has simulateneous 2 player support.

That makes it far superior than nintendo`s version

[exit]

I would say buy the Nintendo version from your friend, then when you have the spare money, pick up the Tegen version. It's always nice to have different variation of Tetris at hand, since it is one of the best puzzle games ever created.


Hey Nero 99. Welcome to DP-- first thing you need to know is that almost no one here can read or think. Intelligence here is far higher than most message boards, but nontheless, it's still a message board. You asked "Which Tetris version should I buy?" and all except for a couple are answering the question, "Which Tetris version is a better game?" Wrong question guys.

You continue to criticize the board, over very trivial things mind you, yet you still choose to post here. When someone asks which version they should buy, telling them which is the better version helps them make the decision, so I don't see how that won't help him make his final decision. If you're going to nitpick over every little thing, please make your way to GameFaqs, I'm sure you'll feel right at home there.

[PSXferrari]

You continue to criticize the board, over very trivial things mind you, yet you still choose to post here. When someone asks which version they should buy, telling them which is the better version helps them make the decision, so I don't see how that won't help him make his final decision. If you're going to nitpick over every little thing, please make your way to GameFaqs, I'm sure you'll feel right at home there.


No, no, no, exit. I think your just being over defensive of DP here. I wasn't criticizing DP-- in fact, I was complimenting it by saying that the members here are a step above other message boards. I go to message boards because I enjoy engaging in the dialogue-- especially when there is disagreement (like right now). DP is certainly the best board I've ever come across and it's the only one I use right now. I believe the benefit of this site is that the majority of people are mature adults (perhaps myself being the only exception). Nonetheless, DP is still a message board. And by definition it's going to have people who can't read and post like idiots. For example-- recommending Tengen Tetris over Nintendo Tetris to this person.

And I'm sorry but you're wrong-- telling them which version is better is not the correct way to answer the question. The way you answered was correct, which I would summarize as: "Tengen Tetris is better, but buy the cheap one from your friend first and make sure you really like it-- and then go for Tengen." The incorrect way is how most other people are answering this guys question: "Tengen Tetris has 2-player. It's way better. Buy it instead."

The problem with that is that is doesn't answer the question because it doesn't take into the person who asked the question. It only takes into account which version of the game YOU think is better and which YOU would buy. But that's not the question that was posed here. So if the guy listens to these dumb responses, he might spend $40 on Tengen only to realize he hates it or doesn't play it enough to justify the price, when he could have spent under $5 on the Nintendo version and came to the same conclusion at a much cheaper price. Now, are you going to tell me that that's good advice? Because right now by disagreeing, all you're saying is that we should misanswer everyone's questions and offer terrible advice. Personally, I'm not for that and that's why I said something. Sorry if I was a bit of a jerk about it but I'm going to say something if I see it.

[DigitalSpace]

IMO:

Nintendo's Tetris: best single player
Tengen Tetris: best multiplayer

[Oobgarm]

And I'm sorry but you're wrong-- telling them which version is better is not the correct way to answer the question.

If you want to argue semantics, take into consideration that the OP did NOT specify what they wanted to know. They didn't ask about multiplayer, music, or graphics. They just wanted to know which one they should buy. There was nothing about 'which has better features' or 'should I buy the cheaper one first'. People will interpret non-specific questions differently and answer them in such fashion.

We're telling them what features we enjoy about each of the individual games, and they can use that data to form an opinion of their own. Some of us may be more opinionated on the matter, which leads to 'buy this instead'. But the OP does have a mind of their own and can make educated decisions based on information they have gathered.

And to answer the OP's question, though it seems they've made up their mind:

The original Tetris is more popular to the casual folk, thanks to high distribution. It's graphically superior, no doubt. However, I prefer the Tengen version. It's closest to the original arcade machine, if that matters to you. Multiplayer and music are a nice plus, too. The only downside is that it's pricey.

[k8track]

Another fact to consider is that the Tengen version is found on a lot of multicarts, including the Super Joy/Power Joy/whatever-it's-called 76-in-1 plug and play bootleg joystick (looks like an N64) controller. So if that happens to be a cheap option and you want to give the Tengen version a try (my favorite of the two versions), go for it.

[Griking]

Since the Nintendo version is as common as dirt and will probably only cost you a buck or two you should purchase it regardless which is the better version. The Tengen one as others have said has two player mode but generally costs a lot more. But to answer your question I guess my answer is to get both if you can find the Tengen version for a reasonable price.

[bangtango]

How many people have a buddy that is on call to engage in a two-player session of Tetris at any given moment? I've never had that luxury. As a result, the Nintendo version of Tetris is perfectly fine. What is the point of split screen play if most folks may be able to use it only one or two times a year?

This is what the OP needs to know.

-Nintendo version of Tetris: gray cart and a good, solid version which happens to be worth a couple of bucks or so.

-Tengen version: black cart, has an added two-player mode that a lot of people will never use (see above), otherwise it is the same type of game as the Nintendo version but it happens to be priced at $20 or above depending on the seller.

Truth is, you should be able to get both the NES Nintendo and Game Boy versions of Tetris for under $10 and those are the only versions you will ever need. If you like collecting high priced items, then go ahead and grab the Tengen copy. But if your main interest is gameplay and not collectability, then you may be a little underwhelmed paying upwards of $30-40 (again, depending on the seller) for an NES puzzle game.

[Flashback2012]

If you want to argue semantics, take into consideration that the OP did NOT specify what they wanted to know. They didn't ask about multiplayer, music, or graphics. They just wanted to know which one they should buy. There was nothing about 'which has better features' or 'should I buy the cheaper one first'. People will interpret non-specific questions differently and answer them in such fashion.

We're telling them what features we enjoy about each of the individual games, and they can use that data to form an opinion of their own. Some of us may be more opinionated on the matter, which leads to 'buy this instead'. But the OP does have a mind of their own and can make educated decisions based on information they have gathered.

And to answer the OP's question, though it seems they've made up their mind:

The original Tetris is more popular to the casual folk, thanks to high distribution. It's graphically superior, no doubt. However, I prefer the Tengen version. It's closest to the original arcade machine, if that matters to you. Multiplayer and music are a nice plus, too. The only downside is that it's pricey.

I could've swore that the Tengen version was released first then pulled because Nintendo worked out a deal with Elorg to publish the game, thus kicking off the whole removal of Tengen as a 3rd party publisher for Nintendo and the switch to the black cartridges.

I prefer the Tengen version simply because it's the closest to the arcade version. I would say buy the Nintendo made one simply from a cost standpoint and then later on pick up the Tengen version if you have the desire to see what all the fuss is about and have the disposable income.

Oh and hey, first post! Been lurking here forever, figured I'd post sooner than later. LOL

[Oobgarm]

I could've swore that the Tengen version was released first then pulled because Nintendo worked out a deal with Elorg to publish the game, thus kicking off the whole removal of Tengen as a 3rd party publisher for Nintendo and the switch to the black cartridges.

My fault. Tengen was first. I have no idea why I said that. I meant to put "Nintendo" but didn't for some reason. Must have been thinking 'original arcade machine' and accidentally transposed a word. :monkey:

[kainemaxwell]

Tengen Tetris is the superior model.

[Sweater Fish Deluxe]

I don't think the two player split-screen option in Tengen's Tetris is much a of a selling point since the two games have absolutely no interaction with each other; there's no junk droppping or anything like that. It's essentially just two single player games going on simultaneously. Realy multiplayer versus Tetris didn't get introduced until the Gameboy version (and every version after that). The two player cooperative (though it's just as often a versus game too) option is pretty cool, though, and I'm still surprised that no Tetris game since has adopted it.

What's really better about Tengen's version is the physics, though, in my opinion. The pieces move much more smoothly and set in place fast when they land, this allows for very fast gameplay, which I like in Tetris. The movement of the pieces in Nintendo's version is more plodding, even at higher levels there's a distinct pause between when the piece can move from on tile location to the next. I find that very frustrating, but maybe it's just because I'm so used to Tengen's version. Nintendo's version allows for more movement of the piece after it's landed, which can be handy sometimes--such as when you need to rotate a piece into position--but also leads to misplacements if you're already inticipating which way you're going to move the next piece that's about to fall but the last piece that just landed hasn't quite set into place yet.

Also, whoever said that Nintendo's version looks better...well, I suppose it's a matter of opinion, but I think Tengen's version is much much nicer looking. It's got cleaner lines and uses more solid colors. Nintendo's version uses the same horrible palette choices and dirty complicated lines and tiles that ruined so many NES games, in my opinion.

And yes, giving the original poster opinions about which version is better is indeed the best way to help him decide which version to buy. Gameplay is the unknown, Nero can see for himself what the cost of each version is and if he knows a bit about how each version actually plays, he can decide on his own which version is more worth its price.


...word is bondage...

[PSerge]

As a HUGE fan on the Tengen version, I must say get the Tengen version, if you don't mind the added cost.. It has better music, smoother gameplay, and it's a cool conversation piece..

If you mind the added cost, get the Nintendo version, it plays just fine, but I do think, in my opinion, the Tengen version is better.

[Damaramu]

Good to see another Macross fan on the boards. Welcome to DP! Enjoy your stay! :cheers:



I could've swore that the Tengen version was released first then pulled because Nintendo worked out a deal with Elorg to publish the game, thus kicking off the whole removal of Tengen as a 3rd party publisher for Nintendo and the switch to the black cartridges.

I prefer the Tengen version simply because it's the closest to the arcade version. I would say buy the Nintendo made one simply from a cost standpoint and then later on pick up the Tengen version if you have the desire to see what all the fuss is about and have the disposable income.

Oh and hey, first post! Been lurking here forever, figured I'd post sooner than later. LOL

[NE146]

I only have the Tengen version. There was no Nintendo version out yet when I bought it. And when the Nintendo version did come out, damn if I was going to fork it out to buy yet another version of the same game.

I've tried out the Nintendo version via emulator.. and the gameplay seems to be a lot tougher. The pieces stick immediately. That being said, my complaint about the Tengen version is that although it has 2 player simultaneous.. there's zero interaction between the 2. You can't compete really. So it's just like you're both playing in your own little world. *yawn*. But that's about it :)

[PSXferrari]

If you want to argue semantics, take into consideration that the OP did NOT specify what they wanted to know. They didn't ask about multiplayer, music, or graphics. They just wanted to know which one they should buy. There was nothing about 'which has better features' or 'should I buy the cheaper one first'. People will interpret non-specific questions differently and answer them in such fashion.

We're telling them what features we enjoy about each of the individual games, and they can use that data to form an opinion of their own. Some of us may be more opinionated on the matter, which leads to 'buy this instead'. But the OP does have a mind of their own and can make educated decisions based on information they have gathered.


This is all true, but let's continue with semantics then. You can usually make a few common sense judgments based on the OP's post, as long as you're semi-intelligent. (I again apologize if I am giving people on a message board way too much credit by actually assuming they have any intelligence at all.) So we know that right now the OP has easy access to the cheap version of Tetris. We can also assume that he is not familiar with either version of the game, or else he wouldn't be asking the question. I'm also sure he doesn't have a ton of money to spend on random games-- or else he would have spent the likely <$5 on the Nintendo version from his friend without even holding off on it. Plus, he's a gamer like the rest of us.... and how many fellow gamers out there are rich enough to toss money around? Not any I know. Finally, the OP is probably a big NES fan but I assume he's not a hardcore collector for it, or else he would have bought Tengen simply because of the collectibility factor.

Yes, these are all assumptions. One or two may turn out to be wrong, but we can predict that the majority are more likely correct. So, common sense tells us that the answer to this person's question is: buy the Nintendo version. He's not very familiar with the game, so why spend big bucks on the Tengen version first? He can make sure he likes it for $3 and then spend 10x that if he's really into it (and how many people here actually play their copy of Tengen Tetris enough nowadays to get $30 value out of it????????). Anyone who says to buy the Tengen version is 100% WRONG. Yes, there is no leeway here. You are just wrong. And if you think you're not wrong, then you're wrong again. [And if anyone here thinks they weren't wrong than just check the logic Nero used to make his decision and you'll realize that, yes, unfortunately I'm right and you're wrong.]



And to answer the OP's question, though it seems they've made up their mind:

The original Tetris is more popular to the casual folk, thanks to high distribution. It's graphically superior, no doubt. However, I prefer the Tengen version. It's closest to the original arcade machine, if that matters to you. Multiplayer and music are a nice plus, too. The only downside is that it's pricey.


Now, from reading everyone's comments in here it seems that the Tengen version is far more popular (although I'm sure the collector's mystique of it adds more to the popularity than the actual gameplay). This is fine, and everyone is welcome to state that the Tengen version is way better. In fact, it's a good thing to do because it may help other people searching this topic to answer their own questions about the Tengen version-- because perhaps they are hardcore Tetris fans or NES collectors. But the main objective is to answer the OP's questions-- so you can state that Tengen is the superior version, so long as you qualify that the Nintendo version is probably a better fit for someone that is just getting into the game (rather than making it sound like the Nintendo version is complete crap and you either buy Tengen or nothing). Because, again, the Nintendo version is the only right answer here.


Examples of dumb posts:

"Tengen Tetris, by a landslide."
"Tengen, 100%."
"The tengen tetris is much better for one huge reason: It has simulateneous 2 player support. That makes it far superior than nintendo's version."
"Tengen Tetris is the superior model."
"Tengen Tetris is far more superior then the Nintendo version, get that one."


Examples of good posts:

Default Gen- "Considering the Nintendo version is about 3 bucks you might as well get that and see if you like it."
Griking
PSerge
And the award for best answering the OP's question goes to..... Bangtango


Congratulations to all of today's winners.

[Garry Silljo]

Because, again, the Nintendo version is the only right answer here.

No it isn't the only right answer. If that were the case there wouldn't even be a question, since a question requires at least two options and you used the word "only" implying a lack of choice.

Why don't you stop being a prick and telling people how they have to answer a question that isn't even yours? The OP was looking for advice and he got several forms of it. They are all valid whether you like the form they came in or not.

[Cornelius]

This is all true, but let's continue with semantics then. You can usually make a few common sense judgments based on the OP's post, as long as you're semi-intelligent. (I again apologize if I am giving people on a message board way too much credit by actually assuming they have any intelligence at all.) So we know that right now the OP has easy access to the cheap version of Tetris. We can also assume that he is not familiar with either version of the game, or else he wouldn't be asking the question. I'm also sure he doesn't have a ton of money to spend on random games-- or else he would have spent the likely <$5 on the Nintendo version from his friend without even holding off on it. Plus, he's a gamer like the rest of us.... and how many fellow gamers out there are rich enough to toss money around? Not any I know. Finally, the OP is probably a big NES fan but I assume he's not a hardcore collector for it, or else he would have bought Tengen simply because of the collectibility factor.

Yes, these are all assumptions. One or two may turn out to be wrong, but we can predict that the majority are more likely correct. So, common sense tells us that the answer to this person's question is: buy the Nintendo version. He's not very familiar with the game, so why spend big bucks on the Tengen version first? He can make sure he likes it for $3 and then spend 10x that if he's really into it (and how many people here actually play their copy of Tengen Tetris enough nowadays to get $30 value out of it????????). Anyone who says to buy the Tengen version is 100% WRONG. Yes, there is no leeway here. You are just wrong. And if you think you're not wrong, then you're wrong again. [And if anyone here thinks they weren't wrong than just check the logic Nero used to make his decision and you'll realize that, yes, unfortunately I'm right and you're wrong.]





Now, from reading everyone's comments in here it seems that the Tengen version is far more popular (although I'm sure the collector's mystique of it adds more to the popularity than the actual gameplay). This is fine, and everyone is welcome to state that the Tengen version is way better. In fact, it's a good thing to do because it may help other people searching this topic to answer their own questions about the Tengen version-- because perhaps they are hardcore Tetris fans or NES collectors. But the main objective is to answer the OP's questions-- so you can state that Tengen is the superior version, so long as you qualify that the Nintendo version is probably a better fit for someone that is just getting into the game (rather than making it sound like the Nintendo version is complete crap and you either buy Tengen or nothing). Because, again, the Nintendo version is the only right answer here.


Examples of dumb posts:

"Tengen Tetris, by a landslide."
"Tengen, 100%."
"The tengen tetris is much better for one huge reason: It has simulateneous 2 player support. That makes it far superior than nintendo's version."
"Tengen Tetris is the superior model."
"Tengen Tetris is far more superior then the Nintendo version, get that one."


Examples of good posts:

Default Gen- "Considering the Nintendo version is about 3 bucks you might as well get that and see if you like it."
Griking
PSerge
And the award for best answering the OP's question goes to..... Bangtango


Congratulations to all of today's winners.
Wow, I've never seen someone put so much time and effort into trolling. But really that's all this is.

[PSXferrari]

No it isn't the only right answer. If that were the case there wouldn't even be a question, since a question requires at least two options and you used the word "only" implying a lack of choice.

Right. A question does have two choices. But are you telling me that questions can't have right and wrong answers? Maybe at the school you went to. As for the question asked here, the OP asked because he didn't know the answer. But that doesn't mean that there was more than one right answer to the question.



Why don't you stop being a prick and telling people how they have to answer a question that isn't even yours? The OP was looking for advice and he got several forms of it. They are all valid whether you like the form they came in or not.

Right again. I am being a prick. Still, I just think that people should offer good advice or no advice at all. Yes, the topic has shifted slightly as we're now talking more semantics and such so I'm being more of a prick than originally intended. Nonetheless, for future reference, I already know I'm a prick.

[PSXferrari]

Alright, anyways, I've made my point but this is a message board so everyone is going to post retarded no matter what. So since no one is going to learn how to give advice and I've only managed to successfully piss off all the terrible posters here, I will quit now while I'm behind. I realize I went a little overboard in defense of my beliefs, and apologize to all the decent posters out there. I shouldn't have known better than to expect intelligence on a message board. So now I'm done, but feel free to continue telling the OP to buy Tengen Tetris. As Garry Silljo points out, you do have the right to give bad advice, and I apologize for acting like I have any right to tell you otherwise.

[bangtango]

Thanks for the replys> from what it sounds like nintendos looks better but tengens has better features. ill get the nin tendo one for now then by a tengen one as soon as i find it.(for a good price that is)^^;

I'm sure you'll find the Tengen version for a few bucks someday in a second hand store, lawn sale or thrift store. It will probably be the first and last time you find it in the wild. I wouldn't recommend buying it off of Ebay unless you are dying to get it. I mean the game is so simple and there are so many other versions out there, both good and not so good, including a ton of "clones" that you can download for free off of dozens of web sites. It is even on cell phones and those 96-in-1 brick games. My copy of Tengen Tetris came from a video rental shop that was going out of business and selling all of their NES rentals for $2. What a find that was, certainly a good day for cheap NES games that afternoon :) I ebayed it awhile back, though :angel:

Maybe I have bad taste but I particularly like the music on the NES version of Tetris, especially the default theme.

[Garry Silljo]

Right. A question does have two choices. But are you telling me that questions can't have right and wrong answers?


When the question deals with opinions such as "which version do you think I should buy?" Then yes, I'm telling you that you can't have right and wrong answers. If some one thinks he should buy Tengen Tetris, then that is the right answer for that person. You can disagree with their take, but you can't deny the fact that it is THEIR take and therefore correct and true in their eyes. You think Nintendo is the "right" answer, but unless the OP actually plays both and decides for their own self all we will ever know is that is what you THINK, and not knowledge at all.

[diskoboy]

This is all true, but let's continue with semantics then. You can usually make a few common sense judgments based on the OP's post, as long as you're semi-intelligent. (I again apologize if I am giving people on a message board way too much credit by actually assuming they have any intelligence at all.) So we know that right now the OP has easy access to the cheap version of Tetris. We can also assume that he is not familiar with either version of the game, or else he wouldn't be asking the question. I'm also sure he doesn't have a ton of money to spend on random games-- or else he would have spent the likely <$5 on the Nintendo version from his friend without even holding off on it. Plus, he's a gamer like the rest of us.... and how many fellow gamers out there are rich enough to toss money around? Not any I know. Finally, the OP is probably a big NES fan but I assume he's not a hardcore collector for it, or else he would have bought Tengen simply because of the collectibility factor.

Yes, these are all assumptions. One or two may turn out to be wrong, but we can predict that the majority are more likely correct. So, common sense tells us that the answer to this person's question is: buy the Nintendo version. He's not very familiar with the game, so why spend big bucks on the Tengen version first? He can make sure he likes it for $3 and then spend 10x that if he's really into it (and how many people here actually play their copy of Tengen Tetris enough nowadays to get $30 value out of it????????). Anyone who says to buy the Tengen version is 100% WRONG. Yes, there is no leeway here. You are just wrong. And if you think you're not wrong, then you're wrong again. [And if anyone here thinks they weren't wrong than just check the logic Nero used to make his decision and you'll realize that, yes, unfortunately I'm right and you're wrong.]





Now, from reading everyone's comments in here it seems that the Tengen version is far more popular (although I'm sure the collector's mystique of it adds more to the popularity than the actual gameplay). This is fine, and everyone is welcome to state that the Tengen version is way better. In fact, it's a good thing to do because it may help other people searching this topic to answer their own questions about the Tengen version-- because perhaps they are hardcore Tetris fans or NES collectors. But the main objective is to answer the OP's questions-- so you can state that Tengen is the superior version, so long as you qualify that the Nintendo version is probably a better fit for someone that is just getting into the game (rather than making it sound like the Nintendo version is complete crap and you either buy Tengen or nothing). Because, again, the Nintendo version is the only right answer here.


Examples of dumb posts:

"Tengen Tetris, by a landslide."
"Tengen, 100%."
"The tengen tetris is much better for one huge reason: It has simulateneous 2 player support. That makes it far superior than nintendo's version."
"Tengen Tetris is the superior model."
"Tengen Tetris is far more superior then the Nintendo version, get that one."


Examples of good posts:

Default Gen- "Considering the Nintendo version is about 3 bucks you might as well get that and see if you like it."
Griking
PSerge
And the award for best answering the OP's question goes to..... Bangtango


Congratulations to all of today's winners.

So, tell me again, because maybe I was out of the room at the time....


Who died and made you President? Someone wanna ban this dickless freak of nature? I've checked all his other posts - all he does is insult everyone.

[Garry Silljo]

I've checked all his other posts - all he does is insult everyone.

Weren't you paying attention? He has to insult us because it relieves his terrible burden of being the only intelligent person, ... EVER! (sarcasm)

[k8track]

Great Hera, I didn't realize we were taking the SAT's here. Yee-ikes.

To branch off in a different direction, you might also pick up Tetris 2 (also for NES) for a couple of bucks. That one is great fun too.

[exit]

I shouldn't have known better than to expect intelligence on a message board. So now I'm done, but feel free to continue telling the OP to buy Tengen Tetris. As Garry Silljo points out, you do have the right to give bad advice, and I apologize for acting like I have any right to tell you otherwise.

The guy asked what version he should buy, he even said he was satisfied with the responses that were made and had made his final decision. So again, I really don't see what the problem is here, other than you. You didn't like the way that people answered the question, because you felt it wasn't answered correctly, you're basically telling people that their personal opinion is wrong. If you don't like the way people on here do things, then make your way somewhere else, you're the only person that has a problem with it.

[PSXferrari]

Well, as you guys point out, everyone has a right to their opinion, so I guess according to you all I have a right to my opinion too.

As I said before, I'm done with my ranting, so even if I was an idiot before I'll be the mature one now and end it. So I won't reply to all these posts here. But you're more than welcome to keep them coming-- they're more entertaining than offensive to me.

[PSXferrari]

So, tell me again, because maybe I was out of the room at the time....


Who died and made you President? Someone wanna ban this dickless freak of nature? I've checked all his other posts - all he does is insult everyone.


I'm sure you took the time to go through "all" my other posts. In a select few topics, I do have strong opinions and state them, but that doesn't count as insulting to anyone but you. You're only upset because you were one of the people's posts who I said was wrong earlier in this topic. Fortunately, the mods are not as ban-happy over one trivial misstep by a poster.

However, you're probably right that I was insulting in this topic and I apologized already for that. Now you show me three posts besides this one where I legitimately insulted someone without merit, and I will leave myself. If all I really do is "insult everyone" and I'm such a bad person on these boards, than 3 out of 200+ posts shouldn't be too hard. Right? Try it-- it'll be fun, like a scavenger hunt. Pretty sweet grand prize too.

[exit]

I'm sure you took the time to go through "all" my other posts. In a select few topics, I do have strong opinions and state them, but that doesn't count as insulting to anyone but you. You're only upset because you were one of the people's posts who I said was wrong earlier in this topic. Fortunately, the mods are not as ban-happy over one trivial misstep by a poster.

However, you're probably right that I was insulting in this topic and I apologized already for that. Now you show me three posts besides this one where I legitimately insulted someone without merit, and I will leave myself. If all I really do is "insult everyone" and I'm such a bad person on these boards, than 3 out of 200+ posts shouldn't be too hard. Right? Try it-- it'll be fun, like a scavenger hunt. Pretty sweet grand prize too.


Note: You said posts, not threads, so you should follow your word due to technicality. So don't go on trying to say you meant threads, it was also a pretty crummy scavenger hunt.



When will this worthless topic finally die, along with whoever started it?


Even more annoying is the fact that it can never die because some idiot would always revive it to tell people how he played Lost Planet for 2 hours today. Anyone care?


Alright, anyways, I've made my point but this is a message board so everyone is going to post retarded no matter what. So since no one is going to learn how to give advice and I've only managed to successfully piss off all the terrible posters here, I will quit now while I'm behind. I realize I went a little overboard in defense of my beliefs, and apologize to all the decent posters out there.


So do I win the grand prize?


Yippie Ki Yay

[kedawa]

PSXFerrari, you've made your point and there's no need to repeat it.

Anyway, I would recommend the Nintendo version, with the Tengen version being something to pick up on a multicart. Aside from the inflated price and lackluster 2-player gameplay you get with the Tengen version, it also has a very gradual speed increase that makes it really drag on. By the time you have 100 lines in Nintendo Tetris, the pieces are falling at drop-speed, whereas you need to get several hundred lines in Tengen Tetris in order to reach the same speed.
Even if you want to play with a bunch of people, the Tengen game is lacking because turns take forever, and there's no way to restart a two-player match, making head-to-head sort of pointless.

[PSXferrari]

Note: You said posts, not threads, so you should follow your word due to technicality. So don't go on trying to say you meant threads, it was also a pretty crummy scavenger hunt.


So do I win the grand prize?


Yippie Ki Yay


Oh man, you took me up on the challenge. That's awesome. But calling it a crummy scavenger hunt? Dude, don't be a plant. Just admit that it was awesome and you had a blast. You're right, I made it posts instead of threads to make it even EASIER on you. Let's see what you turned up:




"When will this worthless topic finally die, along with whoever started it?"

I was hoping you would find this one but it's the only other one I could think of. And you're right, it was insulting to another member, so it counts. Insult #1.



"Even more annoying is the fact that it can never die because some idiot would always revive it to tell people how he played Lost Planet for 2 hours today. Anyone care?"

I don't get it. Who does this insult? Yes, I use the word idiot but it's not directed at anyone. It's just used generally. It was presenting a possible scenario; not actually making an insult directed at someone.



"Alright, anyways, I've made my point but this is a message board so everyone is going to post retarded no matter what. So since no one is going to learn how to give advice and I've only managed to successfully piss off all the terrible posters here, I will quit now while I'm behind. I realize I went a little overboard in defense of my beliefs, and apologize to all the decent posters out there."

Dude, let's be serious here. Obviously you can't use posts from this topic. I could pick out like a dozen insults from here and kick myself out. As I said: "Now you show me three posts besides this one where I legitimately insulted someone without merit, and I will leave myself." I said "besides this one" meaning besides posts in this topic, but I realize it was misleading and made it sound like I meant only that single post (which doesn't make much sense because that post wasn't insulting). Nonetheless, not using this thread should be common sense. Even if you want to get technical, I'm still curious who that post insults? It's not directed at a specific person or even at DP itself-- it's directed at the entire concept of message boards. Something like that is so broad that it ends up insulting no one at all.



You must have not gone back very far if you couldn't find 3. There's gotta be something there. If you find another 2 (or convince me to use those second two), I will stand by my word and leave. Always stand by my word. And I'll go into retirement.

[PSXferrari]

PSXFerrari, you've made your point and there's no need to repeat it.

Anyway, I would recommend the Nintendo version, with the Tengen version being something to pick up on a multicart. Aside from the inflated price and lackluster 2-player gameplay you get with the Tengen version, it also has a very gradual speed increase that makes it really drag on. By the time you have 100 lines in Nintendo Tetris, the pieces are falling at drop-speed, whereas you need to get several hundred lines in Tengen Tetris in order to reach the same speed.
Even if you want to play with a bunch of people, the Tengen game is lacking because turns take forever, and there's no way to restart a two-player match, making head-to-head sort of pointless.


First of all, good advice. Second of all, I'm not repeating my point. I dropped my point way earlier in this topic (and other people are continuing it by even bringing it up). All I'm trying to do now is sponsor a good old fanshioned scavenger hunt, DP-style. I think it'll start a good trend. Every time there's an idiot member on the board, the Mods should sponsor a scavenger hunt to find 3 ban-worthy posts from the guy and then he get booted. It makes bans way more fun. Plus, it's the best grand prize ever. Similarly, on Easter they should hide real Easter eggs throughout the board, and whoever finds the most wins a chocolate bunny. Second greatest prize ever.

[sirhansirhan]

First of all, good advice. Second of all, I'm not repeating my point. I dropped my point way earlier in this topic (and other people are continuing it by even bringing it up). All I'm trying to do now is sponsor a good old fanshioned scavenger hunt, DP-style. I think it'll start a good trend. Every time there's an idiot member on the board, the Mods should sponsor a scavenger hunt to find 3 ban-worthy posts from the guy and then he get booted. It makes bans way more fun. Plus, it's the best grand prize ever. Similarly, on Easter they should hide real Easter eggs throughout the board, and whoever finds the most wins a chocolate bunny. Second greatest prize ever.

Gallagher used to have this bit that went that every driver should get a gun that shot suction cup "Stupid" signs that you could shoot at other drivers. So, by example, if you're driving and someone cuts you off or doesn't go when a light turns green or turns without using a blinker or whatever, you shoot them with a Stupid sign. Then, if a cop sees that someone has three or more Stupid signs on their car, they pull them over and give them a ticket for being an asshole.

Then he would smash a watermelon.

[exit]

You must have not gone back very far if you couldn't find 3. There's gotta be something there. If you find another 2 (or convince me to use those second two), I will stand by my word and leave. Always stand by my word. And I'll go into retirement.

All of them are insulting in one way or another. You called people terrible posters, that's an insult to a group of people. You also called whoever revives the thread an idiot, which is an insult to whoever posts after you. So yes, it would be insulting by technicality. I figured you'd argue about it, which is why I did it in the first place, since nobody ever follows that kind of statement when they say it.

Nobody is saying leave, you should just chill the hell out and stop being judgmental.

[PSXferrari]

All of them are insulting in one way or another. You called people terrible posters, that's an insult to a group of people. You also called whoever revives the thread an idiot, which is an insult to whoever posts after you. So yes, it would be insulting by technicality. I figured you'd argue about it, which is why I did it in the first place, since nobody ever follows that kind of statement when they say it.

Nobody is saying leave, you should just chill the hell out and stop being judgmental.



So does that mean we don't get to have the Easter egg hunt either?

[kainemaxwell]

How about cutting the cat fights here and steer the topic back to a good old-fashioned debate, minus the name calling shall we?

[InsaneDavid]

However, I prefer the Tengen version. It's closest to the original arcade machine, if that matters to you. Multiplayer and music are a nice plus, too. The only downside is that it's pricey.

Ding ding ding. Tengen Tetris and Nintendo Tetris is like comparing apples to oranges. The Tengen version is an enhanced port of the arcade game. Nintendo Tetris is a heavy rework of their craptastic Famicom Tetris game. (which is a god-awful, lackluster port of early PC Tetris with horrible controls)

In case you want a head to head comparison of Tengen Tetris against the arcade original, I took a look at it back in Retrogaming Times Monthly issue 11 (http://my.stratos.net/%7Ehewston95/RTM11/RTM11.html). (excuse the poor formatting as seen on most browsers, was a rough time for RTM then)


Still, I just think that people should offer good advice or no advice at all.

I think you should do that second one.

[Garry Silljo]

So does that mean we don't get to have the Easter egg hunt either?

Just quit antagonizing people already. Keeping people away from the topic at hand with scavenger hunts and easter egg garbage is just as bad as all the insults. You want to make a contest to ban you? Then make a thread for it and get out of here.

[skaar]

Holy fucking shit people, grow up.

Someone lock this already.

[Eternal Tune]

The OP should consider a third option:

http://dustincarter.com/bjb/YaoiTetris.jpg

[PSXferrari]

Just quit antagonizing people already. Keeping people away from the topic at hand with scavenger hunts and easter egg garbage is just as bad as all the insults. You want to make a contest to ban you? Then make a thread for it and get out of here.


Dude, why are you continuing this? Now you're being worse than me. I dropped it about 2 days ago and no one is still being antagonized (except you apparently). But your trying to act like a tough guy and it's not very impressive. And yeah, great idea on starting a whole thread about a scavenger hunt to ban myself.... I'm sure the mods wouldn't close that right away...

But the easter egg idea is still on whether you like it or not. You can be like everyone else here by intelligently and maturely ignoring me, or you can continue trying to antagonize me to keep the argument going. Like everyone else, you should know better than to bring yourself down to my idiot level. So I already dropped it man; I don't know why you're keeping this going while everyone else has gone back to debating the topic.

[carlcarlson]

here's a semi off-topic (what topic?) question. I've never bothered to pick up any of the tetris ports since the nes/game boy version because I just assumed they were all half-assed cash-in attempts. but do any of them actually bring something new to the table and improve on the game without making it feel gimicky?

[Rob2600]

I've never bothered to pick up any of the tetris ports since the nes/game boy version because I just assumed they were all half-assed cash-in attempts. but do any of them actually bring something new to the table and improve on the game without making it feel gimicky?

Tetris DX for Game Boy Color received high ratings and positive reviews, but I believe it's just an enhanced version of the original Tetris cartridge.

Tetris Attack was renamed Pokemon Puzzle League for Nintendo 64 and Pokemon Puzzle Challenge for Game Boy Color. The gameplay, although different from Tetris, is a lot of fun. It's an excellent, highly-rated puzzle series.

[PSXferrari]

here's a semi off-topic (what topic?) question. I've never bothered to pick up any of the tetris ports since the nes/game boy version because I just assumed they were all half-assed cash-in attempts. but do any of them actually bring something new to the table and improve on the game without making it feel gimicky?


I checked this out on GameRankings. I can't personally vouch for any of these games but they all had high overall rankings: Tetris Attack (SNES, 90%), Tetrisphere & The New Tetris (N64; 86%, 82%), and most recently Tetris DS (86%). Based on the scores they must all be bringing something besides the same old formula and might be worth looking into. I own Tetris Attack but have never tried it.

[dgdgagdae]

Dude, why are you continuing this? Now you're being worse than me. I dropped it about 2 days ago and no one is still being antagonized (except you apparently). But your trying to act like a tough guy and it's not very impressive. And yeah, great idea on starting a whole thread about a scavenger hunt to ban myself.... I'm sure the mods wouldn't close that right away...

But the easter egg idea is still on whether you like it or not. You can be like everyone else here by intelligently and maturely ignoring me, or you can continue trying to antagonize me to keep the argument going. Like everyone else, you should know better than to bring yourself down to my idiot level. So I already dropped it man; I don't know why you're keeping this going while everyone else has gone back to debating the topic.

Is this "Shenmue Fan"? It sure sounds like him. Same intelligent sounding posts that he only makes to get under the skin of others.

[CreamSoda]

Forget Tetris, it's Hatris or nothing!!!

[Oobgarm]

As I said before, I'm done with my ranting, so even if I was an idiot before I'll be the mature one now and end it.

Posted 6/26, 2:36 AM.

Number of posts since that time: 6.

It's obvious you're trolling, both here and in other threads(most notably the 'what are you playing?' thread). If the way things are posted and answered here bothers you, perhaps this is not the place for you. Attempting to lay groundwork for some sort of bizarre coup d'état in regards to posting style is a waste of your time, the OP's time, and everyone else's. Hell, I'm wasting my own time typing this to a person who's supposedly resigned themselves from further conversation regarding the topic. :monkey:

[c0ldb33r]

here's a semi off-topic (what topic?) question. I've never bothered to pick up any of the tetris ports since the nes/game boy version because I just assumed they were all half-assed cash-in attempts. but do any of them actually bring something new to the table and improve on the game without making it feel gimicky?
Tetrisphere for the n64 is a completely new game. It's excellent and can usually be found for just a few dollars. There are interesting puzzles along with great graphics and sound.

Also, Tetris DS offers online play and Push mode, both of which are very fun and addictive.

[Oobgarm]

here's a semi off-topic (what topic?) question. I've never bothered to pick up any of the tetris ports since the nes/game boy version because I just assumed they were all half-assed cash-in attempts. but do any of them actually bring something new to the table and improve on the game without making it feel gimicky?

The Next Tetris on PSX adds breakaway pieces that can fall down. The pieces can be made up of two colors. Like colors will meld together, while unlike colors will fall further if not resting on any other pieces. Quite fun.

I personally love the New Tetris on N64. It started the whole 'piece save' idea, and utilizes a technique called 'perfect square'. Squares of 6x6 or larger can be created to form large squares that are worth more points. Plus, the 4-player mode is amazing.

[carlcarlson]

I checked this out on GameRankings. I can't personally vouch for any of these games but they all had high overall rankings: Tetris Attack (SNES, 90%), Tetrisphere & The New Tetris (N64; 86%, 82%), and most recently Tetris DS (86%). Based on the scores they must all be bringing something besides the same old formula and might be worth looking into. I own Tetris Attack but have never tried it.

I've heard of a number of those, but have never checked any of them out. Tetris DS sounds pretty tight, as does Tetris Attack. I guess I want something that's Tetris, but isn't gimicky and tacked on. I'll have to check these out, thanks for the info.

[Speedy_NES]

I would first get the Nintendo version, and then if you're still hooked and need more, get the Tengen version ;)


Another fact to consider is that the Tengen version is found on a lot of multicarts, including the Super Joy/Power Joy/whatever-it's-called 76-in-1 plug and play bootleg joystick (looks like an N64) controller.

Isn't that the BPS version of Tetris, released for the Famicom? I think it might be different than the Tengen version.


I could've swore that the Tengen version was released first then pulled because Nintendo worked out a deal with Elorg to publish the game, thus kicking off the whole removal of Tengen as a 3rd party publisher for Nintendo and the switch to the black cartridges.

Congrats on your first post ;)

Btw, the removal of Tengen as a third party publisher must've come before their release of the Tetris game, as it would've otherwise been released in a licensed NES cartridge. ;)

[Sweater Fish Deluxe]

Isn't that the BPS version of Tetris, released for the Famicom? I think it might be different than the Tengen version.
No, I've never seen the Japanese BPS version of Tetris on a multicart, it's always Tengen's version.

As for other versions of Tetris, like Oobgarm said, The New Tetris on the N64 is really great, some nice new features, but it stays true to the original feel. Tetris DS, on the other hand, breaks the gameplay in a couple pretty serious ways, in my opinion. Mostly the fact that you can move and rotate pieces that have already landed *INDEFINITELY*. This totally alters the gameplay and makes the game essentially an entirely different experience. Not absolutely a bad experience, it can still be fun spinning pieces around to get them into place, but real tetris is vastly more enjoyable.

Tetris DX on the GBC really blew it by replacing the fantastic music from the original B&W version with uninspired dreck. The color choices are crap, too, so the only real advantage of the DX version is the ability save your high score (I think it had an additional mode, too), but the original is really a lot better thanks to the music.

Tetris 64 (a Japanese release) is pretty cool, too. It actually comes with a pulserate monitor and has a couple options for altering the pace of the game based on your pulse. It also has options to add extra pieces into the mix that are made up of five blocks instead of the usual four and what's cool is that you can't see the extra block on the piece until it actually starts falling so it can really fuck up your plans and make your pulserate jump.


...word is bondage...

[Rob2600]

Magical Tetris Challenge (starring Disney characters) for Nintendo 64 received positive reviews. I rented it about eight years ago, but I didn't get too into it. Has anyone else tried it?

Gamestats.com link:

http://www.gamestats.com/objects/002/002001/

[PSXferrari]

Posted 6/26, 2:36 AM.

Number of posts since that time: 6.

It's obvious you're trolling, both here and in other threads(most notably the 'what are you playing?' thread). If the way things are posted and answered here bothers you, perhaps this is not the place for you. Attempting to lay groundwork for some sort of bizarre coup d'état in regards to posting style is a waste of your time, the OP's time, and everyone else's. Hell, I'm wasting my own time typing this to a person who's supposedly resigned themselves from further conversation regarding the topic. :monkey:


... Are you serious? You're counting posts now and still keeping this going? You are now officially being worse than me. So what if I've posted 6 posts since then? None were related to the "everyone is wrong" topic-- they were either posts attempting to diffuse the situation and apologize, or posts actually related to the Tetris topic! But you guys keep this GOING AND GOING.

Get over it-- it's done. I understand that I was an idiot for starting it-- I admit that myself without you needing to post 37 comments reminding me about something that happened 3 days ago. Don't make yourself look like an idiot now too. Because anyone who keeps continuing this each time I attempt to diffuse it is the real problem now. Drop it-- everyone else here has and has tried to get back on topic.

[PSXferrari]

I've heard of a number of those, but have never checked any of them out. Tetris DS sounds pretty tight, as does Tetris Attack. I guess I want something that's Tetris, but isn't gimicky and tacked on. I'll have to check these out, thanks for the info.


No problem. But dude, be careful. Admitting that I was actually helpful in any way in this topic could be a very dangerous thing to do right now.

[InsaneDavid]

Btw, the removal of Tengen as a third party publisher must've come before their release of the Tetris game, as it would've otherwise been released in a licensed NES cartridge. ;)

No, they were around and actually a Nintendo licensed third party developer earlier on. They got tired of paying the Nintendo royalty fees and abiding by Nintendo's production restrictions so they reverse engineered the 10NES chip and created their "Rabbit" chip. This is why Tengen NES games don't have the bootup problems that say, Wisdom Tree games do. Unlicensed Tengen cartridges have the matching lockout chip, it's just not Nintendo produced. They were around after Tetris as well but the licensed versions of Tengen games were released before they went into 100% business for themselves with the black cartridges.

[Sweater Fish Deluxe]

... Are you serious? You're counting posts now and still keeping this going? You are now officially being worse than me.
Oh no! But then you posted this post to say that and it makes YOU worse than HIM again! Drat!

Okay lets let Oobgarm make another comment about this then he'll be worse than PSXferrari again, but we'll all know it so PSXferrari won't have to make ANOTHER post to point it out whereby he would be making himself worse than Oobgarm again and starting it all over!

Agreed?

I think we can almost see the light on this one, fellas. After this it's off to the the Gaza Strip and maybe we can solve that one, too!


...word is bondage...

[PSXferrari]

Oh no! But then you posted this post to say that and it makes YOU worse than HIM again! Drat!

Okay lets let Oobgarm make another comment about this then he'll be worse than PSXferrari again, but we'll all know it so PSXferrari won't have to make ANOTHER post to point it out whereby he would be making himself worse than Oobgarm again and starting it all over!

Agreed?


No man, that's not fair. I wanna be the worst. Why does he get to be the worst?

[Thrillo]

Either way, they're both much better than the horrible Famicom port.

[Speedy_NES]

No, they were around and actually a Nintendo licensed third party developer earlier on. They got tired of paying the Nintendo royalty fees and abiding by Nintendo's production restrictions so they reverse engineered the 10NES chip and created their "Rabbit" chip. This is why Tengen NES games don't have the bootup problems that say, Wisdom Tree games do. Unlicensed Tengen cartridges have the matching lockout chip, it's just not Nintendo produced. They were around after Tetris as well but the licensed versions of Tengen games were released before they went into 100% business for themselves with the black cartridges.
Yup, I realize that Tengen had three licensed releases early on, but the reason why I made the statement I made earlier was that if the lawsuit against Tengen Tetris that led to its withdrawal from store shelves was the reason behind Tengen becoming unlicensed, the Tengen Tetris copies should've been licensed to begin with. ;) It was just in response to someone's statement that the Tetris lawsuit led to Tengen becoming an unlicensed company regarding its NES releases, which was not the case, like you said.