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Nintendo Gamer
07-02-2007, 02:50 PM
Members of the financial press have been tripping over themselves to see who would be the first to chronicle that Nintendo (NTDOY.PK) has surpassed Sony (SNE) in market capitalization to become the 10th largest company in Japan. This imaginary horse race has captured the attention of numerous observers and been blown out of proportion. Well, on Friday, June 29, 2007 The Asahi Shimbun announced:

Nintendo Co. on Thursday (June 2 exceeded Sony Corp. in terms of market capitalization, ranking it among the nation's 10 largest companies in aggregate market value. Nintendo finished the day at 45,050 yen per share, which valued the company at 6.38 trillion yen, above archrival Sony's 6.24 trillion yen. Sony closed at 6,220 yen per share on Thursday.

Unfortunately, this declaration was wrong for two reasons. First, Nintendo’s stock price at the close of trading on the Tokyo Stock Exchange [TSE] was 44,950, not 45,050. Second, and more importantly, Asahi Shimbun, in its rush to declare Nintendo the winner, failed to use the proper number of shares of stock.
The market capitalization (MarketCap) of a stock is defined as the share price times the number of shares outstanding. It is not the share price times the number of shares issued nor is it the share price times the number of shares authorized. Nintendo has reported that on March 31, 2007 it had 127,903,013 shares of common stock outstanding, while Sony has reported that it had 1,002,062,405 shares outstanding on that same date.
A correct calculation of market capitalizations using the June 29, 2007 Tokyo Stock Exchange closing prices of 44,900 yen for Nintendo and 6,330 yen for Sony shows that the MarketCap of Sony is 6,232,828,159,000 yen or $50.603 billion U.S. (123.17 yen=$1), while the MarketCap of Nintendo is 5,749,240,434,000 yen or $46.677 billion.
While their MarketCaps are close, Sony and Nintendo are vastly different companies. Nintendo is highly acclaimed worldwide as a video game company that has a proven track record of producing breakthrough hardware systems and immensely popular, propriety games. Its current focus is on growing the gaming market so it can sell more game products, since almost 100% of its revenue comes from the video game industry. Its sales increased 89% in fiscal 2007 and its net income rose 77%.
By contrast, the video game segment of Sony’s business accounted for only 12.3% of its total revenue in 2007. Its video game sales increased 6.1% and the game segment of Sony’s business produced an operating loss of $1.97 billion.

http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/News-48926.aspx
http://ce.seekingalpha.com/article/39862

mills
07-02-2007, 03:42 PM
oh ok.

chicnstu
07-02-2007, 04:51 PM
Poor Nintendo, they always fail. I mean, they can't seem to catch a break. They make all of this money and get negative profit news while Sony is living it up losing 1.97 billion.

Nintendo Gamer
07-02-2007, 04:57 PM
Wow, when Nintendo was reported it had surpassed Sony's market. You guys were all giddy. Soon as its reported wrong, you guys joke about it.

Push Upstairs
07-02-2007, 05:08 PM
I didn't care when it was said they did surpass Sony and I don't care that it isn't true.

But I'm sure someone will enjoy this info.

chicnstu
07-02-2007, 10:32 PM
Wow, when Nintendo was reported it had surpassed Sony's market. You guys were all giddy. Soon as its reported wrong, you guys joke about it.

Yes, you're right.

People like to talk about each companies mistakes and put them down. So those people that realize that each company is equally "good", and gives each company a chance, it excites them to have good news (of a company a lot of people talk bad about) shoved in the "nonsupporter's" faces. Then when the nonsupporter (that wants a certain company to fail without knowing or caring what good games will happen in the future) posts bad news it just seems stupid.

This post (like a lot of mine) sounds stupid but I think it shows the point.

You know why you made this topic.

Nintendo Gamer
07-03-2007, 12:53 AM
Wow, you seem to be taking this too serious. Of course, I made this topic to talk about it. That's why the other person made the topic about the news. Generally your saying I'm making this topic only to disappoint fans (the ones that really care about the lead and all that bullshit). I'm sorry we can't post about things being disproven, I'll keep that in mind for the future.

p_b
07-03-2007, 01:25 AM
I think I'll go and trash my Wii now. Nintendo is TEH DOOOMED!

-hellvin-
07-03-2007, 06:32 AM
I had a good time playing RE4 on wii today.

p_b
07-03-2007, 07:10 AM
What? You mean....as in gaming fun? Not as in looking at random business numbers fun? *faints*

Fuyukaze
07-03-2007, 09:13 AM
All these numbers and none of them make much sense. I should go play my Wii some but I'm not sure I realy want to play on such a looser system. I mean, here it outsold the compeition so well and all and yet Nintendo Just cant turn a profit on it's new blue ray enhanced system with that 6 axis of evil controler. Curse you Nintendo!

DeputyMoniker
07-03-2007, 09:30 AM
Nice thread.

I wonder if Nintendo will ever expand into the electronics market. If their gaming systems were their iPod then I could see them designing LED HDTV's, speakers, etc. in the future. Hell, if Dell expanded into the brick & mortar sector then anything is possible. Nintendo's "we do games & that's it" policy is working well for them. However, they're growing right now and that growth will peak. Once that happens it's time to explore new opportunities. Just a thought.

Drexel923
07-03-2007, 10:11 AM
This could have been posted as a reply to the other thread regarding the matter. If you want to continue the "conversation" feel free to post the correction in that thread and start over. But if that turns into the same stuff I just read, it won't take long to get locked also.

BTW...PS3 SUX!!!!111!1