360 backwards compatibility update: Morrowind works!

[heybtbm]

Morrowind works...this is unbelievable. I just tried out Morrowind GOTY Edition and can confirm. The rest of the list...

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/804/804445p1.html

[Nesmaster]

Awesome, TH2x and TH3, been wanting to try 2x since it came out. Guess I will now :).

[norkusa]

Oh god, Outrun 2 & Coast 2 Coast?!?!? I officially don't need my old Xbox any longer.


Wow, it looks like they finally have all the good games BC now. Are they missing anything?

[davidbrit2]

Outrun 2006: Coast to Coast

Outrun 2006: Coast to Coast

Outrun 2006: Coast to Coast

:D :D :D :D

[GM80]

:D :D :D :D

Agreed, nice to see all those Sega titles. Toejam & Earl III (also a Sega title) is now the only non-BC Xbox game on my shelf ... wish it would have been included.

Nice update!

[Nintendo Gamer]

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[chicnstu]

Oh god, Outrun 2 & Coast 2 Coast?!?!? I officially don't need my old Xbox any longer.


Wow, it looks like they finally have all the good games BC now. Are they missing anything?

Not sure how good the Blinx series is but I only see the second one on the list.

Also, I didn't see The Chronicles of Riddick.

[TurboGenesis]

Good to see Microsoft continue to add games!

This update is look good for me :D
Outrun 2 here I come (again)
JSRF is another +1 for me

Now lets get the Otagi's and TJ&E III ^_~
Then I will pack up my junk barley running Thompson drive 2 days after launch Xbox console.

Mega Man Collection would be nice too :)

[chicnstu]

Great, I was hoping there was gonna announcement about this. Now all they need to fix the hardware problems and then I'll get a 360 in an instant.

EDIT: ROFL, Anybody notice NBA Live 2002? Least they trying to get most games, get some support for TimeSplitters tho damnit.


Yeah, the hardware problems are making me nervous about buying one tomorrow.

[Garry Silljo]

Not sure how good the Blinx series is but I only see the second one on the list.


The sceond one is terrible compared to the first. There's a tutorial in every level that can't be shut off no matter how many times you play through. It makes the game unbearable.

[studvicious]

Yeah, the hardware problems are making me nervous about buying one tomorrow.

The 3-year warranty should put those worries to rest. :)

[RARusk]

"Also, I didn't see The Chronicles of Riddick."

From what I understand CoR:EFBB can't be BC because of it's programming.

Which is why they're remaking it for X360 and PS3.

The remake is called "The Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Anthena" and it should be out around Xmas. This game has the following:

--A remake of the PC Director's Cut of "Butcher Bay" with improved graphics.
--A new chapter that takes place after "Butcher Bay" called "Assault on Dark Anthena" (hence the title)
--And something that was missing with both the PC and Xbox versions of "Butcher Bay": multiplayer.

Can't wait for this one. It gives me an excuse to revisit the guide I made for "Butcher Bay" over at GameFAQs.....

[ecresto]

i cant believe they mADE MArvel vs capcom 2 bc . im about to fire it up and unlock all the characters again .

[Leo_A]

Anyway to transfer Xbox 1 saves to a Xbox 360?

Nice list, but they're still missing tons of good stuff so I hope they continue. RalliSport Challenge 2, the Brothers in Arms series, Beyond Good & Evil, Capcom Classics Collection 1 & 2, Colin McRae 3 and 2005 (Bet these appear someday unless they stop, 04 was already done), Mega Man Anniversary Collection has issues, Midnight Club 2 and 3, Midtown Madness, Midway Arcade Treasures, Need for Speed Underground, Prince of Persia series, Taito Legends, Tron 2.0, and many more.

I mostly just hope to see RalliSport Challenge 2. Have a few friends that I'd like to race again with this that don't keep their original Xbox's hooked up (I do so I don't really need these updates but I'm still glad they're doing it).

[Nesmaster]

BG&E would be swell. I'm hoping The Warriors is added sometime, I never did check that out.

[ubersaurus]

Nice list, but I'm still holding out hope for Xyanide to get on there!

[Chuplayer]

Outrun 2 has moments of frame drop, but I'm surprised it runs as well as it does. It's still entirely playable, and for a game so graphically intense, having only minor framerate problems is awesome.

I don't have 2006 for the XBOX. Love the PS2 port, though. Picked up the PSP port last month on the cheap, and I don't even have a PSP.

I haven't run into problems in THPS2X.

JSRF's only update is the ability to play it from the Sega GT combo disc. 99th Street is still slow as molasses.

The Outlaw Golf 9 More Holes... is the actually second Christmas special disc. The first one doesn't work. I tried it. I didn't even know there was a second special Christmas disc until a couple hours ago.

[NEOFREAK9189]

but they still missing my game the enter the matrix and the matrix path of neo

[MegaDrive20XX]

Omg...well I need to go shopping :)

[DigitalSpace]

I must say, this is a pretty nice update. Hopefully TJ&E 3 will be added soon.

[G-Boobie]

Does Morrowind run any better on the 360? I somehow doubt it, but it would be nice to play Morrowind at a framerate higher than 40 fps.

[Trebuken]

"Also, I didn't see The Chronicles of Riddick."

From what I understand CoR:EFBB can't be BC because of it's programming.

Which is why they're remaking it for X360 and PS3.

The remake is called "The Chronicles of Riddick: Assault on Dark Anthena" and it should be out around Xmas. This game has the following:

--A remake of the PC Director's Cut of "Butcher Bay" with improved graphics.
--A new chapter that takes place after "Butcher Bay" called "Assault on Dark Anthena" (hence the title)
--And something that was missing with both the PC and Xbox versions of "Butcher Bay": multiplayer.

Can't wait for this one. It gives me an excuse to revisit the guide I made for "Butcher Bay" over at GameFAQs.....

I do not think they are remaking the game as thoroughly as they are because it is not backwarrds compatible, but rather to sell more copies and to bolster the possibility of a sequel.

With emulation they should eventually be able to make all games backwards compatible as long as the 360 is powerful enough.

[icbrkr]

Oh god, Outrun 2 & Coast 2 Coast?!?!? I officially don't need my old Xbox any longer.


Wow, it looks like they finally have all the good games BC now. Are they missing anything?

Yep, this is exactly what I was thinking when I saw that. Time to move the ol' box to the closet and use that space for another console :)

[Nebagram]

PGR1&2 are on there... awesome. :) TJ&E3's the only one missing for me too.

[heybtbm]

Anyway to transfer Xbox 1 saves to a Xbox 360?

Nope. I'm wondering how many Morrowind players are going to want to start from scratch.

[Mr. Smashy]

I'm surprised that Microsoft is still charging people for PGR2 downloadable content.

Does Marvel vs. Capcom 2 look like crap for anybody else? The character sprites look terrible on my system.

[ecresto]

yeah i was so excited for mvc2 , but the game runs slow & the sprites are all f-ed up . it does look nice in 480p though . hopefully they will fix this in a future update .

[ubersaurus]

Didn't the sprites look like ass on the xbox to begin with?

It's probably because they're all low res sprites being upconverted to 720p.

[Chuplayer]

I'm surprised that Microsoft is still charging people for PGR2 downloadable content.

Does Marvel vs. Capcom 2 look like crap for anybody else? The character sprites look terrible on my system.

*pops in just-bought PGR2*

Damn, you're right! I didn't even know there was content to download. This bites. At least the game was 3 bucks.

Also, I heard that MvC2 looks bad because of poor emulation.

Guilty Gear X2 #Reload, however, looks just fine as far as I can tell.

[kaedesdisciple]

Awesome, my Silent Hill 2 was getting lonely down in the dungeon away from my other compatible games.

[agbulls]

*pops in just-bought PGR2*

Damn, you're right! I didn't even know there was content to download. This bites. At least the game was 3 bucks.

Also, I heard that MvC2 looks bad because of poor emulation.

Guilty Gear X2 #Reload, however, looks just fine as far as I can tell.

I actually always thought the port of MvC2 of XB was the poorest of the three (ps2, dc, xb). The pixels never looked right even on the regular xb. Try the PS2 version upscaled on the PS3....now THAT is how it should be played :D

[Slate]

Great, Doom 3: ROE Is BC! Now they should make Indiana Jones and the Emporor's tomb BC, And they should update the software so I can be in private chat with a friend and be playing a regular xbox game. (Yeah I know.. It'll take a long time)

[Emuaust]

by getting a device called the xsata from datel you can put your xbox saves on the 360.
I invested in one of these as there was no fcking way I was starting GTA:SA from scratch again.

[MarioMania]

Ahhh, No Capcom Classic Collection Vol 1 or 2..what happened to the Retro Love

[Richter Belmount]

*pops in just-bought PGR2*

Damn, you're right! I didn't even know there was content to download. This bites. At least the game was 3 bucks.

Also, I heard that MvC2 looks bad because of poor emulation.

Guilty Gear X2 #Reload, however, looks just fine as far as I can tell.

I see some lines crossing the sprites when I play but looks like a minor glitch or error in the emulation. But playing this game in hd is amazing =D.

[MarioMania]

I don't think MS give a damn about the Retro game like

Midway Arcade Treasures
Midway Arcade Treasures 2
Midway Arcade Treasures 3
Capcom Classic Collection Vol 1
Capcom Classic Collection Vol 2

I'm still waiting for those games

[SaturnFan]

OMG. Showdown:Legends of Wrestling and WWF Raw work now....I need to go shopping tomorrow.

Now when the hell is Stars Wars:Obi Wan gonna get backwards? and yes, I do like that game.

[ProgrammingAce]

I don't think MS give a damn about the Retro game like

Midway Arcade Treasures
Midway Arcade Treasures 2
Midway Arcade Treasures 3
Capcom Classic Collection Vol 1
Capcom Classic Collection Vol 2

I'm still waiting for those games

You're talking about an emulator update to run an emulator in an emulator for 20+ year old arcade PCBs.

I wouldn't hold my breath...

[Leo_A]

They've made titles such as Atari Anthology and Namco Museum 50th Anniversary Collection backwards compatible, so I think its possible we might see them be made BC eventually.

[Trebuken]

I would not make the collections BC. I would get those games put on Xbox Live Arcade and sell them to you again.

[MegaDrive20XX]

Awesome, my Silent Hill 2 was getting lonely down in the dungeon away from my other compatible games.

I gotta find SH2 again...

I just found a brand new sealed copy of DOOM 3: RoE today as well :)

[MarioMania]

I would not make the collections BC. I would get those games put on Xbox Live Arcade and sell them to you again.

What is the point of that, Just for playing people online..For one game on XBLA is prob 600 points...you got like 30 Games or less for all the Midway Arcade Treasures Series and the Capcom Classic Collection Vol 1 & 2

[heybtbm]

I don't think MS give a damn about the Retro game like

Midway Arcade Treasures
Midway Arcade Treasures 2
Midway Arcade Treasures 3
Capcom Classic Collection Vol 1
Capcom Classic Collection Vol 2

I'm still waiting for those games

I don't understand why someone would buy the Xbox versions of those games in the first place. It makes sense if an Xbox was their only console, but otherwise I don't see the logic. Why not just buy the PS2 versions instead? They were always guaranteed to be backwards compatible. It's not like 20 year old arcade games look any better on one console vs. another.

[norkusa]

I don't understand why someone would buy the Xbox versions of those games in the first place. It makes sense if an Xbox was their only console, but otherwise I don't see the logic. Why not just buy the PS2 versions instead?

The Xbox versions have Live Scoreboards. That's why I bought 'em instead of the PS2 versions.

[Leo_A]

Theres quite a few reasons.

First of all, the Midway Arcade Treasures releases had less bugs on the Xbox than the PS2 releases and faster load times. The Xbox saw superior versions of all three.

Midway Arcade Treasures had superior emulation on several games, including Smash TV which has a lot of frame skip on the PS2. The PS2 version has significantly slower loadtimes, with sound glitching during the main menu when loading information.

On Midway Arcade Treasures 2, Hard Drivin' gets faster and smoother in a few cases on the Xbox. On the PS2, the game runs much slower in the Phantom Photon challenge. Pit-Fighter runs at double the speed of the original game on the PS2.

On Midway Arcade Treasures 3, Rush 2049 stays at- 60 fps all the time on the Xbox, even in 4 player split screen. On the PS2 it slows down to 30 in multiplayer modes. It has slower loadtimes and sound glitches as well.

Theres the Xbox Live scoreboards for all three which the PS2 version lacks.

You can save on the hard drive rather than using space on expensive PS2 memory cards.

Some people such as myself prefer the MS controllers over the Dual Shock design.

The only flaws in these games compared to the PS2 versions is MAT3 gets currupt saves sometimes. Otherwise, you get smoother running games, faster load times, more accurate games, etc. Not sure how the PS2 Capcom Classics Collections disc compare to the Xbox ones since I only own the Xbox versions, but I bet the Xbox has faster load times. No one knew when these games came out that the PS3 would play them and the Xbox wouldn't, but at least Xbox owners get superior versions.

[MarioMania]

The got Midway Arcade Treasures, Midway Arcade Treasures 2 & Midway Arcade Treasures 3 on the Gamecube..I will get the Xbox versions later

[G-Boobie]

Nope. I'm wondering how many Morrowind players are going to want to start from scratch.

The biggest problem with Morrowind on both platforms was the horrible framerate and unstable coding... It froze and crashed a lot. If they fixed that with the emulation, then I'm all over it again. Morrowind is a lot more fun than Oblivion, in my opinion. :)

Also, I had read that the Riddick remake was a PS3 exclusive; was I wrong? (I hope so)



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[misfits859]

Please add The Warriors to the list soon...:bawling:

[FoxyGamer]

my question is: will the 360 be able to handle Morrowind any better than they did Oblivion? I have had many many people come and tell me about losing 120 hour game saves.

[RARusk]

"Also, I had read that the Riddick remake was a PS3 exclusive; was I wrong? (I hope so)"

Dark Anthena is for both X360 and PS3. I've asked the local GameStops and they have no info on the release date at this point.

[MegaDrive20XX]

one game I love, that I wish was compatible with the 360, is "Dead Man's Hands"...then I can be set for life on all the original Xbox games for my 360.

[Chuplayer]

Is anybody getting sound issues in PGR2? It gets garbled during races sometimes. It doesn't do it in the sound test or in other menus, but it does get garbly when you're driving. I didn't notice it at first, but it's just getting worse as I get further into the game.

[CYRiX]

concerning the midway arcade treasures, if u have a wii aren't those also gamecube games? That would probably be a better solution.

[briskbc]

Does the classic Doom content in Doom 3: ROE work with the BC? I heard that you couldn't access the old games in Ninja Gaiden or Doom 3 (I forget which). I'm probably being overly optimistic but I really hope so. I will track this game down today if it does play them. I would appreciate confirmation. Thanks

[MegaDrive20XX]

Does the classic Doom content in Doom 3: ROE work with the BC? I heard that you couldn't access the old games in Ninja Gaiden or Doom 3 (I forget which). I'm probably being overly optimistic but I really hope so. I will track this game down today if it does play them. I would appreciate confirmation. Thanks

All three (Ultimate DOOM, DOOM II, and Master Levels DOOM 2) but it has some odd sound issues when you pick up an item. Other than that, it's pretty smooth.

[briskbc]

:cool: I'm all over this. I haven't played Doom since its release back on the PC. I have intentionally avoided console ports of the game but I've been jonesin' since last year. Thanks for the info.

:rockets:


All three (Ultimate DOOM, DOOM II, and Master Levels DOOM 2) but it has some odd sound issues when you pick up an item. Other than that, it's pretty smooth.

[chicnstu]

I like that the 360 can play Xbox games but are they supposed to have lots of slow-down?

I bought Morrowind GOTY at GTZ as soon as this topic was posted. I've been wanting to play that game for a long time.

[GM80]

Xbox games ... are they supposed to have lots of slow-down? I bought Morrowind GOTY ...

Most compatible games play at full (or better) speed. Morrowind was rather choppy and "chuggy" on the original Xbox, anyway, and I imagine you're seeing the result of the actual game's programming (not the 360's emulator) causing the slowdown.

[chicnstu]

Most compatible games play at full (or better) speed. Morrowind was rather choppy and "chuggy" on the original Xbox, anyway, and I imagine you're seeing the result of the actual game's programming (not the 360's emulator) causing the slowdown.


I should have added more information. I was actually talking about the slowdown in Fable: The Lost Chapters. I haven't gotten Morrowind yet, it should be in my mailbox by Friday.

About Morrowind though, is the slowdown so bad that it makes it less fun to play?

[heybtbm]

About Morrowind though, is the slowdown so bad that it makes it less fun to play?

Not in my opinion. The slowdown is there, but it's really not that big of a deal once you're a few hours in. You will stop noticing it after a while. Oblivion for the 360 was the same way.

[MarioMania]

Do you know when is the next update list for the BC list for the 360...what's the e-mail address to e-mail then about some games to add