PS3 price drop NOT permanent?

[sabre2922]

from http://kotaku.com/gaming/say-what%3F/60gb-ps3-being-taken-out-to-pasture-278039.php


According to SCEE (http://kotaku.com/gaming/scee/) president David Reeves (http://kotaku.com/gaming/david-reeves/), the now-cheaper 60GB PS3 (http://kotaku.com/gaming/ps3/) will be sold out in the US by the end of the month. Once they're gone? No more. Ever.
All they're doing is taking their stock in trade that they've got at the moment of the 60GB model, marking the price down and it will all be gone by the end of July.Once that happens, he says, there'll be just the 80GB models. Which cost $599. So if you want in on some of that PS3 price-cut action, you'd best get cracking. :frustrated::bullshit::frustrated:

[smork]

Yah, I saw that. What a bunch of doofs. I thought with the new software supposedly coming out at the end of the year I'd prolly buy one but with all the dicking around on price/specs/packages, who knows when's the best time to buy?

Guess I'll stick to what I got until they straighten their act out.

[AMG]

This is one of the most ridiculous moves I've ever seen. Instant momentum killer.

[jajaja]

They are probly going to sell out all the 60GB versions, then drop the 80GB version to $499. I wonder why they do this. Do they regret that they made 2 SKUs?

[Pico956]

I honestly think that a company would not be this dumb. Come on guys. Do you really believe this crap?

[jajaja]

I honestly think that a company would not be this dumb. Come on guys. Do you really believe this crap?

Kaz confirmed it in an interview, so its true. They dropped the price on the 60GB model to clean out the stocks so they can get space for the 80GB model. They stopped producing 60GB models.

[Oobgarm]

Hasn't this guy said things that were just baseless rumor before?

If it is in fact true, and the 80GB bundle doesn't drop and sells for $600, they might as well lay down their hand and fold. This 'price drop' is going to disillusion a lot of people since they weren't upfront with their plans. I understand why they weren't, but still.

Unbelievable. One rumor like this and everything positive from E3 is gone, like it never happened.

:confused:

[studvicious]

Sony is proving once again that they have no idea what they're doing with the PS3. And I'm sure Microsoft is breathing a sigh of relief that they didn't do any price cuts for the 360.

[geneshifter]

haha, wow, this is a backhanded move, eh? From what I saw this week from Sony, I want a PS3 again sometime next year but this kind of stuff is what makes me second guess that decision.

[KeyserSoze61]

Wow, Sony is showing how quickly you can go from industry leader to floormat. Forcefeed unnecessary upgrades, maintain poor business planning (how many have gotten the axe over there?), and continue to sell your system for a loss. Keep it up. Unlike Sega, I would not miss seeing this console giant disappear from the market.

[jajaja]

Forcefeed unnecessary upgrades

Forcefeed upgrades? I dont own a PS3, but if i did, what am i forced to upgrade that is unnecessary?


Unlike Sega, I would not miss seeing this console giant disappear from the market.

Who would you like to see instead? Sony is a huge competitor to the other console makers. Remove Sony and you have less competition, which is worse for us customers. So who do you think shall fill Sony's gap if they stop making consoles?

[le geek]

I'm going to call "lost in translation" on this one. While the current 60 gig model (or the 60 gig model all together) may be being phased out, I predict there will still be a $499 model afterwards.

Cheers,
Ben

[PapaStu]

If thats the case Sony won't mind because they are seeing solid sales numbers for the first time since its November debut. That and their 'strong' showing at the new E3 (that no one really showed all that well at) and they've percieved themselves back in a solid and promising position in the market.

Once those systems are sold then they figure that the people that bought them will keep them because of the cost(even if they don't buy much) and they will sell more games, more accessories, and more Blu-Ray discs.

[segagamer4life]

kind of a crappy move... where is the break for the long term.... crappy move indeed.

[7th lutz]

If this true, sony really screwed up their e3 to a point.

First they announced the ps 3 will not get a price drop in Europe or a ps3 system with a 80 GB Hard Disk Drive. I found it out on http://www.joystiq.com/2007/07/12/sony-not-cutting-price-in-europe-ouch/

Stop producing the 60 GB ps 3 is a dumb move with a reduced price at this time. I don't see people buy the new ps 3 with a 80 Hard Drive and Motor higher at $600.00 then the ps 3 with the 60 GB Ps 3 did at that price.

If the consumers are smart, do not purchase the 60 GB Ps 3 at $499.99. Wait till the end of the year or beginning of 2008 to buy one when the stores will be forced to reduce the price even more.

[Flack]

I don't see people buy the new ps 3 with a 80 Hard Drive and Motor higher at $600.00 then the ps 3 with the 60 GB Ps 3 did at that price.

If I read right the 80 gig comes with a rumble controller (which will run around $50) and MotorStorm ($60 value), so those could be selling points.

The part that I don't understand is, is the additional hard drive space really necessary? What can you use it for? I realize I'm not the most intense PS3 owner in the world but I've downloaded quite a few demos and I think I'm using around 5 gig of space. Lots of those are one level demos that I never play and would gladly delete if space became an issue. Is anyone with a 60 gig model running out of space?

[diskoboy]

If you all could see me now, you'd see how hard I'm laughing. Talk about taking it up the ass, with no vaseline!?

This is percicely why I don't buy anything from Sony.

[psychic1]

But doesn't the 80gb model not have a fucking emotion engine? Who gives a shit about an extra 20gb hd space and one PS3 game when THOUSANDS OF GAMES ARE NOW UNPLAYABLE FOR THE SAME PRICE AS BEFORE!

I swear on my mother I was intending to buy a PS3 when they had their first price cut and sold their 20gb model at $400. Then the ditched the 20gb model, now they ditched the 60gb model and to top it off they also dumped the main reason I wanted a PS3 over a 360 to begin with.

Sony could come out with a $500 price drop tomorrow and I swear to god I would not buy it! I am not being sarcastic either, the PS3 isn't even worth $100 to me anymore. Seriously.

[8-bitNesMan]

Has anyone considered that this could be intentional viral marketing to try and make people run out and buy the 60 GB model?

[NeoVenom]

LOL Sony ftl... Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fanboy of any console but damn...wtf Sony??

[jajaja]

But doesn't the 80gb model not have a fucking emotion engine? Who gives a shit about an extra 20gb hd space and one PS3 game when THOUSANDS OF GAMES ARE NOW UNPLAYABLE FOR THE SAME PRICE AS BEFORE!

I swear on my mother I was intending to buy a PS3 when they had their first price cut and sold their 20gb model at $400. Then the ditched the 20gb model, now they ditched the 60gb model and to top it off they also dumped the main reason I wanted a PS3 over a 360 to begin with.

Sony could come out with a $500 price drop tomorrow and I swear to god I would not buy it! I am not being sarcastic either, the PS3 isn't even worth $100 to me anymore. Seriously.

Altho that no EE chip sux, its dont see why its necessary to make bigger problems for yourself than what it actually is. If the main reason why you want a PS3 is because of the EE, buy one now. If you dont want use $500 you can always buy a used one in some time, i'm sure you'll be able to find one that costs around $400. The solutions are simple :) How many of these 1000s of unplayable games do you own?

[koster]

Seriously, what is Sony thinking? I'd rather they release an 'install a hard drive yourself' PS3 at the lower price point. If you shop around, you can find a 160gb notebook hard drive for that $100 price difference.

[psychic1]

Altho that no EE chip sux, its not necessary to make bigger problems for yourself than what it actually is. If the main reason why you want a PS3 is because of the EE, buy one now. If you dont want use $500 you can always buy a used one in some time, i'm sure you'll be able to find one that costs around $400. How many of these 1000s of unplayable games do you own?

There's no way to know what games will and will not be B/C via emulation. Microsofts 360 is B/C with about 30% or 300 of the thousand or so games in the Xbox library with emulation which is a good 700 unplayable Xbox games. And they've been working on that list for years now.
There is thousands of games in PS1 library and thousands more in the PS2 library. Thus the PS3 not having good backwards compatibility is WAY WORSE than Microsoft not having it because we're talking three to four times more games.

Further the reason that EE was a big selling point to me is because PS1 and PS2 games would be upscaled on the PS3...meaning better graphics for the hundreds of games I already have and the hundreds more older playstation games that I still want to buy and play.
Moreover, the fact that the PS3 doesn't have any games on its own is even more of a reason why backwards compatibility was really important in me wanting to own a PS3.

Can I buy a used one? Yeah, that's my only option now and it doesn't help Sony one bit. They won't ever be getting my money now, no matter what.

[AMG]

Check this out:

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6427&Itemid=2

Damage control?

[heybtbm]

Check this out:

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6427&Itemid=2

Damage control?

Well, I think that settles it for now. The 60 gig price drop is permanent.

I still say people need to get those 60 gig PS3's now before they drop the EE chip. Get a damn Best Buy credit card if you have to.

[jajaja]

There's no way to know what games will and will not be B/C via emulation. Microsofts 360 is B/C with about 30% or 300 of the thousand or so games in the Xbox library with emulation which is a good 700 unplayable Xbox games. And they've been working on that list for years now.
There is thousands of games in PS1 library and thousands more in the PS2 library. Thus the PS3 not having good backwards compatibility is WAY WORSE than Microsoft not having it because we're talking three to four times more games.

True, its not pre-announced which games that will be compatible, but you can check a list online and see if your current games are compatible. According to Sony, about 90% of the PS1 and PS2 games are compatible through software emulation. That is pretty good in my opinion. That means you have about 10% chance that a game wont work on your PS3. I'm also under the impression that backward compability got a much higher priority over at Sony compared to over at MS. The compability list is being frequently updated for PS3.

But ye, the backward compability is better with the EE chip included. But i just wanted to underline that if this is a big selling point to you, which i'm sure is to alot of others too, the solution is simple, buy a PS3 now. If you dont want to spend $499 its understandable, then buying a used one is another option. I dont think theres going to be any problem finding a used one with the EE chip in the future.

True, Sony doesnt directly get your money if you buy it used (if the seller regrets the sale he/she might go out and buy another PS3 so it becomes a "double" sale if you know what i mean :)), but dont you buy the console mainly because you want to enjoy it? ;) And to be able to buy one used someone must have bought it too, so this way you're technically supporting Sony.

[7th lutz]

If I read right the 80 gig comes with a rumble controller (which will run around $50) and MotorStorm ($60 value), so those could be selling points.

The part that I don't understand is, is the additional hard drive space really necessary? What can you use it for? I realize I'm not the most intense PS3 owner in the world but I've downloaded quite a few demos and I think I'm using around 5 gig of space. Lots of those are one level demos that I never play and would gladly delete if space became an issue. Is anyone with a 60 gig model running out of space?

There is no rumble controller with the 80GB. I thought I read a couple months ago that there will be a rumble controller out, but it is not by Sony.

The only thing I can think of sony has the additional hard drive space is for having an excuse why the new package of a ps 3 gets a $600.00 tag without the EE chip. Otherwise, I am thinking the ps3 would've been around $550-$560 price range without the extra memory.

I don't understand having extra memory either for the Hard Disk drive for the ps 3 unlike the 360's 120 GB Hard Disk Drive along with the wii needing a storage device for memory besides using the sd memory cards if keeping the $600.00 is not the reason.

[Nintendo Gamer]

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[Anthony1]

Do they regret that they made 2 SKUs?


Yes apparently, here are some quotes from Kaz Hirai (from gamespot):


"Following a flurry of confusion, the matter was apparently settled by none other than Sony Computer Entertainment's president and CEO. Speaking to Norwegian game-news outlet VGTV, Kaz Hirai said in no uncertain terms that the 60GB version is being phased out.

"From a hardware perspective, the $499 price adjustment we did for the 60GB version for the American market, we're no longer in production for that product," he said in an on-camera interview. "Once that product is gone from the retailer shelves, then we're back to a $599 SKU only, so it's not like we have a two-price strategy in the US market. We found out very early on how consumers react to having just one SKU as opposed to two."

[Anthony1]

There is no rumble controller with the 80GB. I thought I read a couple months ago that there will be a rumble controller out, but it is not by Sony.




Word is that third party Sixaxis controllers with rumble will be arriving sometime in September. The offical Sony version of the Sixaxis with rumble will follow not too long after that, and is supposedly to include a new type of rumble technology called "touchsense".

[agbulls]

Yes apparently, here are some quotes from Kaz Hirai (from gamespot):


"Following a flurry of confusion, the matter was apparently settled by none other than Sony Computer Entertainment's president and CEO. Speaking to Norwegian game-news outlet VGTV, Kaz Hirai said in no uncertain terms that the 60GB version is being phased out.

"From a hardware perspective, the $499 price adjustment we did for the 60GB version for the American market, we're no longer in production for that product," he said in an on-camera interview. "Once that product is gone from the retailer shelves, then we're back to a $599 SKU only, so it's not like we have a two-price strategy in the US market. We found out very early on how consumers react to having just one SKU as opposed to two."

I don't think any amount of spin can change the facts stated here. They're willing to lower the price to $499 to test the waters essentially. If it sells like hotcakes, things might change. Otherwise, expect $599 to be the going rate.

I usually define this as corporate suicide. :rockets:

[Clownzilla]

Who would you like to see instead? Sony is a huge competitor to the other console makers. Remove Sony and you have less competition, which is worse for us customers. So who do you think shall fill Sony's gap if they stop making consoles?

I believe Samsung would be a GREAT replacement for Sony. They will be a new and competent entry in the profitable game market, and they will have the fresh innovation and affordability that Sony had with the PS1 (their first major game system).

[jajaja]

Yes apparently, here are some quotes from Kaz Hirai (from gamespot):


"Following a flurry of confusion, the matter was apparently settled by none other than Sony Computer Entertainment's president and CEO. Speaking to Norwegian game-news outlet VGTV, Kaz Hirai said in no uncertain terms that the 60GB version is being phased out.

Ye, i saw that interview earlier today. I wonder if they really will stick to 1 SKU tho. We'll see.



I believe Samsung would be a GREAT replacement for Sony. They will be a new and competent entry in the profitable game market, and they will have the fresh innovation and affordability that Sony had with the PS1 (their first major game system).

That would actually be pretty cool :) Its damn expencive to develope a new console tho, but Samsung seems to be doing fine. Maybe it will hapend, who knows.

[Overbite]

I think sony is trying to kill the PS3 off as early as possible so they can make the PS4 or whatever and when ps4 comes out everyone will be like OMG I love that game

[Nintendo Gamer]

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[MarioMania]

Check this out:

http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6427&Itemid=2

Damage control?

I don't see it..

[PapaStu]

It's confirmed. Bai Bai 60Gig PS3. Once supplies are gone, they're gone. Get yer Emotion Engine PS3's while you can.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/clustered-fucks/kaz-confirms-60gb-ps3-discontinuation-278414.php

[Hwj_Chim]

Seriously, what is Sony thinking? I'd rather they release an 'install a hard drive yourself' PS3 at the lower price point. If you shop around, you can find a 160gb notebook hard drive for that $100 price difference.

here is how to replace the hard drive http://www.gamersreports.com/article/43/

[Damaramu]

Ooh man, that does look pretty easy to do. Hmm....

[Anthony1]

You know... what the fuh is Sony doing? I honestly can't understand the theory behind this. They must have some master plan, but at this point, it just doesn't make any sense. It's going to be interesting to see Michael Pachter and the rest of the bean counters take on this.

[Tron 2.0]

Sony takes a step forward then they take a step back.

Well if this blunder make them loose more money it will be there, fault and they can't blame the consumer for it either.

I was tempted to get the "60GB model when i could save up for one... since the price cut.

Still i don't time to do that maybe i'll get a, 360 by the fall instead.

Realy they must think there fan base in the U.S are, flithy rich or some thing :p

The PS2 may be the last console i own by sony.

[segagamer4life]

sadly, they will and have moved a ton of units since this crap hit earlier this week, so initially its a smart move by sony, However, I hope this move this, crappy move, ends up bitting them in the ass.

[boatofcar]

So just to clarify, for my small brain--the Emotion Engine is what makes the PS3 backwards compatible?

If that's the case, has Sony made any formal announcement specifically saying that the new PS3's will not be backwards compatible?

[swlovinist]

As said before, the New PS3s will be 90% backwards compatable with softare EMU for PS2 games. Not as good, but pretty good. This move is just stupid. I sometimes have a hard time understanding how a company can go make and promote a system so well to the masses(PS2), and screw up so bad with a sequel(PS3)

[psychic1]

As said before, the New PS3s will be 90% backwards compatable with softare EMU for PS2 games. Not as good, but pretty good.

I was under the impression that the euro systems that have never had the emotion engine are only around 75% backwards compatible and there aren't as many PAL games as NTSC games.
Wouldn't that suggest even less compatibility and not more?

[unwinddesign]

I think the "Emotion Engine" issue is a little bit overblown; supposedly PS1 games look/run better [mostly] on the emu, as do PS2 games. Although one has to wonder whether a $600 80 GB PS3 w/ Motorstorm is a better deal than a $500 60 GB PS3. Afterall, you can replace the hard drives yourself...

[Rob2600]

I believe Samsung would be a GREAT replacement for Sony. They will be a new and competent entry in the profitable game market, and they will have the fresh innovation and affordability that Sony had with the PS1 (their first major game system).

The last thing the video game industry needs is another electronics giant that views games strictly as profit and not as art. Besides, we all remember how successful Philips, Panasonic, and Nokia were.

[psychic1]

The last thing the video game industry needs is another electronics giant that views games strictly as profit and not as art. Besides, we all remember how successful Philips, Panasonic, and Nokia were.

O_O

You forgot RCA and NEC. You don't think electronic companies have been good for the gaming industry and gamers?

The first home video game console was made by an electronics giant. Magnavox.
We also wouldn't have the Playstation or TurboGrafx16. Also I'm of the opinion that even a failed system or shitty system is better than no system at all.
I think the industry would be a pretty sad and pathetic place without electronics companies. And who wants every single video game to be like Katamari and Okami? That would fucking suck and I wouldn't even be a gamer at all.
Samsung trying out the video game industry actually makes a lot of sense.
They're pretty much the only electronics giant that hasn't tested the gaming waters and they've gained a lot of momentum and support from consumers recently because of their quality products at a reasonable price.
I don't think now would be a good time but I wouldn't be surprised at all if Samsung does make an appearance at E3 sometime in the future.
And you know what, competition is healthy and I'd like to see it.

[Rob2600]

I think the industry would be a pretty sad and pathetic place without electronics companies. And who wants every single video game to be like Katamari and Okami? That would fucking suck and I wouldn't even be a gamer at all.

I guess you're one of those people who doesn't mind paying $50 for rehashed sports games and rehashed army first-person shooters.

[sabre2922]

I guess you're one of those people who doesn't mind paying $50 for rehashed sports games and rehashed army first-person shooters.

ohhhh u got to it first lol:wink 2:

I do have to say that without the PS2 we MIGHT not have had an Okami ICO or Shadow of the Colossus.

No electronics company is in the biz to simply create "art" or cater to us hardcore gamers so that we can shout to the rooftops I LOVE insert any current game company here they make games for the real gamers.

Even the mighty Nintendo is in this for the buku $$$ if they werent they would not have went after the "casual" crowd and decided that they would make games that only the hardcore or the Nintendo elite crowd wanted even if it meant going bankrupt.

I guess my point is the same as someone else already pointed out. That any electronics company conglomerate or not that decides to throw in their bid in the video game biz with a new console or whatever is at the worst putting more variety out there for US the gamers and as far as Im concerned THATS ALL GOOD.:-D

[kainemaxwell]

Once you think Sony's started to smarten up regarding the PS3, they pull a stunt like this. As stated before it's really a momentum killer and another instance where they're shooting themselves in the other foot now.

[smokehouse]

I have to sit back, laugh to myself and enjoy the hell out of all of this stupidity. Although I’ve loved the previous Playstation systems, this current round is nothing short of a monkey screwing a football.

Sony’s arrogance in releasing a $499/599 Blu Ray based system in the first place was comical. They then drop the 20Gb which was a joke right from the start and now after a short lived, much wanted price drop, they’re canceling the only thing that would have helped them move units in favor of another system that’s once again $599. Have they learned nothing?

It's the damn price point that's killing this system!!! NOT the pack-in's…quit adding crap no one wants and keeping the price so high.

Does anyone here actually feel that a pack-in game and an extra 20Gb is really worth $100? That’s absurd. Now you’re going to be forced to buy a game that many won’t want and the measly 20Gb of space is a real smack in the mouth as well.





What a joke. This will be Sony’s N64. Just like Nintendo fell in the late 90’s with their blunders, Sony will fall from #1 in the late 00’s and we’re watching it happen right now.

[segagamer4life]

LMFAO...."monkey screwing a football", just the image alone, HILARIOUS..... thnx for the laughs......


also, sony is being dumb, although, now they are saying, that the 499, will be the permanent price for the 80 gigs.... hmmm, then why buy the 60 gig system... fuck me running..

http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/677639/Pachter_Says_499_PS3_Is_Here_To_Stay.html#readmore


to me, this is kinda screwing the customer right now.... at least thats how I see it, I could be wrong..

[heybtbm]

I think just about all of the people posting in this thread are being purposely dense.

The average person (99.99% of consumers) has absolutely no idea that the PS3 will only be $499 until the 60 gig PS3 stock is depleted. They don't know and don't care. That's why Sony did this. It may look bad to the tiny minority who notice or care about such things (us), but all the average Joe sees is that the PS3 is $100 cheaper than it was last week. When the 60 gig is gone, the PS3 with a bigger hard drive and game(s) is there to take it's place. It wouldn't even surprise me if that was lowered to $499 by Christmas.

Sony played their hand perfectly and wins the round.

[smokehouse]

I think just about all of the people posting in this thread are being purposely dense.

The average person (99.99% of consumers) has absolutely no idea that the PS3 will only be $499 until the 60 gig PS3 stock is depleted. They don't know and don't care. That's why Sony did this. It may look bad to the tiny minority who notice or care about such things (us), but all the average Joe sees is that the PS3 is $100 cheaper than it was last week. When the 60 gig is gone, the PS3 with a bigger hard drive and game(s) is there to take it's place. It wouldn't even surprise me if that was lowered to $499 by Christmas.

Sony played their hand perfectly and wins the round.

I’m not trying to pick a fight but are you kidding me?

Sure, average Joe consumer has no idea of the temp price reduction but when they notice the price go back up again and the only changes being a crummy game and 20Gb…they will complain. This would be no big deal if the 60Gb remained available but the price going back up and with no other alternative is sheer stupidity. Customers will notice the “PS3…$599…no wait, $499…….Ok, it’s $599 again but this time we included $50 worth of unneeded/unwanted crap.”

Sony does not win the round…circle gets the square.

[bangtango]

I don't usually comment in PS3 threads because I don't own one and won't have one for at least two or three years. Just reporting on something that is no big surprise.

My local Walmart was loaded with 60 gig PS3's up until the $100 price drop. A day or two later, they were completely gone. At least from plain view (I don't know what they have out back). Yet Sony wants to do away with this model?

Once again, no surprise but the $100 drop seems to have helped in my neck of the woods.

[heybtbm]

First off I want to clarify that I'm not a Sony, MS, or Nintendo fan-boy. I realize that not being a fan-boy is somewhat of a foreign concept here on Digital Press, so let me be more specific. I wish success (and great games) for each company. Competition only benefits gamers.


Sure, average Joe consumer has no idea of the temp price reduction but when they notice the price go back up again and the only changes being a crummy game and 20Gb…they will complain.

I'm not so sure Sony is going to keep the 80 gig w/game PS3 at $599 this Christmas...especially for the fact that you mentioned. People will get annoyed if they suddenly have to pay $100 more for a piece of electronics. Everyone knows electronics go down in price over time...not up. Sony isn't stupid (yeah, I said it) and knows this.

The reason I say Sony played it's hand perfectly is this...the remaining 60 gig PS3's out there are (most likely) in the millions. Sony probably has tons sitting in Hong Kong as well. If they just sell the remaining 60 gig PS3's they could easily get close to (not pass) MS and Nintendo's install base. Easily.

That's what I think Sony is thinking (wishing). Who knows?

[neuropolitique]

First off I want to clarify that I'm not a Sony, MS, or Nintendo fan-boy. I realize that not being a fan-boy is somewhat of a foreign concept here on Digital Press, so let me be more specific. I wish success (and great games) for each company. Competition only benefits gamers.

Maybe not a fan-boy, but still an asshole.

[sabre2922]

First off I want to clarify that I'm not a Sony, MS, or Nintendo fan-boy. I realize that not being a fan-boy is somewhat of a foreign concept here on Digital Press, so let me be more specific.

DUDE you had my attention until u made this comment.

The fact is that we here at the DP forums are most likely the most open minded and NONfanboyish gamers on the net.

Sure we each have our personal favorites but if we do argue or more often debate then its usually out of respect and interest in others opinions than anything else.

DP usually weeds out trolls and crazy or obsessed fanboys pretty quickly.

Although we do have a few favorite wacky members that keep things interesting like Anthony 1:wink 2:

[heybtbm]

Maybe not a fan-boy, but still an asshole.

Probably...but it's not my intention.


The fact is that we here at the DP forums are most likely the most open minded and NONfanboyish gamers on the net.

Sure we each have our personal favorites but if we do argue or more often debate then its usually out of respect and interest in others opinions than anything else.

DP usually weeds out trolls and crazy or obsessed fanboys pretty quickly.


I agree with just about everything you said up there. Besides open minded, I would add DP seems to have the most informed and intelligent gamers too. However...if anyone denies the rampant pro-Nintendo slant of a majority of the DP forum posters have, they are blind. Since these "Nintendo Apologists" always go on the attack in any and all Sony or PS3 posts, I thought I'd nip it in the bud and immediately clarify my neutral position in the matter at hand.