Yobo VS original nes

[Nero 99]

I have a yobo and an original nes they both work fine and dont ask me why i have both . all i want to know is should i use the yobo fc game console or the original NES
thanks to all who reply!:wink 2:

[retroman]

the yobo makes some games sound funny. Audio wise i mean. Try Super TecmoBowl and see for yourself. It does it on a lot of other games too.

[wallydawg]

My Yobo is pretty lax on compatibility. I'm not expecting it to play every single game, but there is a lot of games that just dont work that work on yobo consoles that others own, like roadblasters, gyromite, street fighter 2010, Maniac Mansion...

[DigitalSpace]

I have a yobo and an original nes they both work fine and dont ask me why i have both .

Hey, I know someone who has several original NES consoles, a Yobo, and a Generation NEX. I think he has a top loader too, though I don't remember. And it's safe to say that there's a good number of people here who have at least a couple of those if not all of them. So don't feel weird about it.

Anyways, an original NES is worth keeping around for those games that just don't play right (or at all) on the Yobo.

[swlovinist]

A yobo is good if you are on a budget, but nothing beats a good ol toaster with a gold 72 pin. I agree with keeping the toaster og version around for the games that dont play. Audio can be wonky on the NEX and yobo with some games, and certain games(castlevania III) I do believe dont play on the yobo.

[StakeRaiser]

A yobo is good if you are on a budget, but nothing beats a good ol toaster with a gold 72 pin. I agree with keeping the toaster og version around for the games that dont play. Audio can be wonky on the NEX and yobo with some games, and certain games(castlevania III) I do believe dont play on the yobo.

Right, if you're a Castlevania 3 or Gauntlet fan, don't buy a yobo, you won't be able to play either

Original top loaders made by Nintendo have come down on price a lot on ebay, if you want the true compatibility, you can get one below 70 dollars if you're patient

[bangtango]

Well, if you are looking to have a good condition NES around for collecting or display purposes, then play as many games as you can on the Yobo. Sure, the graphics and sound ain't great on some games but I say it is better to wear out a $20 product than an original NES. Actually, that is one reason why I do own a Yobo. Sooner or later, the 72-pin connector on your NES will wear out if you're using it too often. So you might as well put that same wear and tear on a cheapie version.

[MF_Luder]

I'm not personally familiar with the Yobos. The only complaint I've heard is with sound issues, as others have mentioned here. I personally own a NEX, which is a clone like the Yobo but more expensive and better quality. And I prefer the NEX over the NES. I own 4 toaster NESes, but as beloved as the NES is, we all know that it also ranks up as one of the most frustrating consoles ever. None of my 4 systems works as well as I'd like. Blowing in games and taking 15 minutes just to get a game to finally work is a pain in the ass-- even worse is when the game starts messing up right while you're in the middle of playing it. Countless times I've had to restart an NES game just because the console screwed up a couple hours in. Sure, I guess installing a new 72 pin connector might take care of this completely, but I'm completely satisfied with the NEX. I personally haven't noticed any sound issues yet, and it plays the games perfect without going through all the blowing and blinking. I'd assume that the Yobo alleviates this problem as well, and that's basically the only benefit of using it over the original NES.

I guess purists will say that you have to play on the original system or nothing at all, and this may be a valid point. But if you're just interested in enjoying the games and avoiding all the hassles that come with the NES, then nothing wrong with using the Yobo and similar systems.

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Sure, I guess installing a new 72 pin connector might take care of this completely, but I'm completely satisfied with the NEX. I personally haven't noticed any sound issues yet, and it plays the games perfect without going through all the blowing and blinking.

$4 72 pin connector > $60 NOAC

You could always get a Top Loader, it's better than getting a Nintenclone and you won't have to worry about compatibility problems. The prices for them have seemed to go down on E-Bay, so you'll be able to find one for the same price (or lower) as the NEX.

[MF_Luder]

$4 72 pin connector > $60 NOAC

LOL, I know, but I'm lazy and don't feel like installing one and probably ruining my NES in the process. I got my NEX for $30 on eBay (before shipping) and it included a bunch of NES games and accessories as well. A 72 pin connector would be more than $4 for me... I do not have any places locally to buy one so I would buy it on eBay, where they go for like $10 or so shipped. So I get what you're saying, and you're probably right, but I'm still satisfied. Plus, the NEX also plays Famicom games, so it has allowed me to collect a few of those, which I would have never done otherwise.




You could always get a Top Loader, it's better than getting a Nintenclone and you won't have to worry about compatibility problems. The prices for them have seemed to go down on E-Bay, so you'll be able to find one for the same price (or lower) as the NEX.

Again, I agree with what you're saying here-- using an original NES system is always better than owning a clone. And the top-loader is superior to even the NEX because it eliminates the problem the connector in the "toaster" had, while still being an original Nintendo system. However, in terms of pricing, a used top-loader on eBay still goes for a bit more than a used NEX on eBay... close to twice as much sometimes. But I agree, of any NES system original or clone, the top-loader is the superior choice if you're willing to spend for it.

[bangtango]

LOL, I know, but I'm lazy and don't feel like installing one and probably ruining my NES in the process.

I guess I am the same way. I flat out refuse to open a system every few years, for the rest of my natural life, just because Nintendo didn't get it right the first time. I don't like Castlevania III and Gauntlet that much, so I'll use a clone/NOAC product. I haven't had to crack open an Atari 2600, Sega Genesis or Super Nintendo yet, so why should I feel obligated to do the same with an NES?

The other problem? When it comes to "fixing" stuff, I am a tremendous klutz. I'm just bad with tools. Real bad. Think Tim Allen's character (Tim Taylor) in Home Improvement. I already tried the "bending the pins back into place" method with disastrous results. Furthermore, I'm damned if I am paying insane prices for an NES system with a newly installed connector that will eventually need yet another one anyway. Who will put in the next connector? Not me.

As for the top-loader, I am just too cheap to hunt down the Game Genie adapter and I don't trust my ability at modding the system for it to fit. Why do I need the Game Genie to begin with? I'll admit it. I'm just not good enough at some games to see their ending without the device. Plus I like making some games I can beat handily a little bit harder :)

[scooterb23]

Dude, I even did the pin connector swap on my NES and I am a technical reject.

[ApolloBoy]

Dude, I even did the pin connector swap on my NES and I am a technical reject.

And there's not that big of a possibility of messing up your NES, either. All you have to do is disassemble the NES, carefully remove the cart connector, insert the new one, reassemble, and you're done.

[exit]

Dude, I even did the pin connector swap on my NES and I am a technical reject.

I did heavy duty surgery to my NES back when I was 14. I had two NES systems, one with a damaged case (worked great), another with a good case (barely worked at all) and I swapped the internals without a problem. Mind you that I was barely able to turn a screw at that age, let alone tell a between a Philips and Flathead.

So if a technical retard could do a system swap, then anyone can replace/bend the pins back in place.

So the above people are either A) advertisers for Messiah or B) hopeless.

[Scream And Fly]

Here's how I see it...

The original NES consoles are almost everywhere and can be bought so cheap. Cleaning the original pin connector or installing a new one will be an easy, quick process. Once, complete, you have a system that works with ALL games, as it should. Why settle for a clone that has less than perfect compatibility?

[cyberfluxor]

I got tired of my toaster so I purchased a top loader. Every now and then I have to blow the connectors for it to work due to playing newly bought, used, dirty ass carts that should've be cleaned before shoving them in. Oh well. The only thing that really pisses me off is I bought the console on eBay for $60 shipped and there ended up being a crack on the front that wasn't listed and the picture didn't do it justice. I plan on eventually gutting it and building a new shell that'd make it look unique, detailed and freaking sweet.

[Nostalgicblight]

Anyways, an original NES is worth keeping around for those games that just don't play right (or at all) on the Yobo.

Indeed. I would use the Yobo (if I had one) for most games, and then use the NES for those that just don't seem to play right. I'm just considering the age of an NES compared to the Yobo, and the rarety of its originality (given that most have replacement parts.)

[Nostalgicblight]

Then again, you could use an emulator. (How many people quivered with fear when I said that?) In reality, you could use the ROMs based on the cartridges you already have without having any sort of legal concern. The Yobo has had mixed reviews, and the NES continues deteriorating as we speak, so why not play both systems when you are on a nostalgia kick, and leave the everyday gameplay to an emulator? That is what I am left to, anyway, for my systems are unfortunately packed in boxes as of right now.

[MF_Luder]

The Yobo has had mixed reviews, and the NES continues deteriorating as we speak, so why not play both systems when you are on a nostalgia kick, and leave the everyday gameplay to an emulator?

I would be surprised if an emulator could provide a better gameplay experience than even a Yobo, sound issues and all. But I will admit that I've never used an emulator, so I'm just assuming that. Personally I hope it stays that way for me-- most of the fun for me is in using the old original hardware. Let's face it, for all the "classics", there's an even larger portion of older games that weren't good to begin with... and they certainly aren't getting better with age. So sometimes it's knowing that you're using stuff that's 20 years old that makes up for the fact that the game you're playing isn't all that great.

And now in addition to emulators we have things like the Wii Virtual Console, XBL Arcade, and GameTap. I'm still split on how I feel on this. In some ways it's great because it opens up classic gaming to a wider audience. In other ways it feels like it cheapens the efforts we have made through the years to amass a solid collection.

[MF_Luder]

I did heavy duty surgery to my NES back when I was 14. I had two NES systems, one with a damaged case (worked great), another with a good case (barely worked at all) and I swapped the internals without a problem. Mind you that I was barely able to turn a screw at that age, let alone tell a between a Philips and Flathead.

So if a technical retard could do a system swap, then anyone can replace/bend the pins back in place.

So the above people are either A) advertisers for Messiah or B) hopeless.


I think "A" would also imply "B" if I was trolling Digital Press boards to sell a product. Sorry that I like the NEX. I paid $30 for it. It comes with a handy pocket NES pricing guide from Digital Press, and it plays Famicom games without me having to buy a separate unit. A new NES connector would have cost me $10 shipped... so I spent an extra $20 and you're saying that that was a bad investment? I saw that Joe sells those for $60 (i think) in his store, and I didn't see any of the cheap knock-offs (like Yobo) in his store anywhere (although I may have just missed it if they are there). So A) people must buy it and B) it must say something if he's willing to carry the NEX but not any knock-off clones.

I am not trying to claim at all that the NEX provides a superior experience to a Nintendo-made console. I am simply saying that it was well worth my $30 investment. And if you are so insistent on people being cheap and replacing the 72-pin connectors than I don't understand how you can recommend the Nintendo top-loader at $70+ per system.?? At that price, you might as well pay half and get a used NEX. And if someone doesn't want to spend the price for a NEX, there's nothing wrong with getting a Yobo either. What about for people that don't own an NES yet? A toaster NES goes for about $30 on eBay, plus $10 for the new connector. You can easily get a Yobo for half that, so I see nothing wrong with people doing that. If you're a hardcore NES fan than go for an original system, but if you just want to casually play the games than a clone is more than adequate.

[mr.soul]

Well, if you are looking to have a good condition NES around for collecting or display purposes, then play as many games as you can on the Yobo. Sure, the graphics and sound ain't great on some games but I say it is better to wear out a $20 product than an original NES. Actually, that is one reason why I do own a Yobo. Sooner or later, the 72-pin connector on your NES will wear out if you're using it too often. So you might as well put that same wear and tear on a cheapie version.

But the NES is a $20 product! ROFL

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And if you are so insistent on people being cheap and replacing the 72-pin connectors than I don't understand how you can recommend the Nintendo top-loader at $70+ per system.?? At that price, you might as well pay half and get a used NEX.

I don't know about anyone else, but I was able to get a Top Loader for a pretty decent price. If you wait a little bit and gradually search on E-bay, you can get anything for a great price. I got mind for around $55, shipping included. It came with a Dogbone, a game and all of the original connections, I guess everyone else just lucked out.

I never once said that anybody was cheap, I just simply said that installing the 72 pin is soo easy, even a Caveman could do it. In fact I might do that for one of my friends and give his girl a NES for her birthday, since they've asked me a few times in the past to borrow mine.

I'm sorry if my opinion offends you, but it really does sound like blatant advertising, not that theres anything wrong with that. Just as long as you don't start advertising crummy CW shows, we've had enough of that here for a lifetime.

[bangtango]

I did heavy duty surgery to my NES back when I was 14. I had two NES systems, one with a damaged case (worked great), another with a good case (barely worked at all) and I swapped the internals without a problem. Mind you that I was barely able to turn a screw at that age, let alone tell a between a Philips and Flathead.

So if a technical retard could do a system swap, then anyone can replace/bend the pins back in place.

So the above people are either A) advertisers for Messiah or B) hopeless.

If I were A, why would I be advertising a product which is going to be two years old pretty soon? I'd have been doing that when it first came out and I would have been in all of those Generation NEX threads that got locked. Yeah, admitting to actually liking a maligned consumer product means I'm getting a kickback from somebody. Come on.

Some people must have misunderstood me. I said I am not good enough with tools to bend the pins on an existing connector back into place, which is what some people choose to do.

Swapping connectors?

Yes, I'm sure I could swap connectors easily enough. I simply choose not to. As I've said in half a dozen threads around here, I'm not going to be a slave to opening up a toaster NES and changing the 72-pin connector every time it wears out for the rest of my life. Not to mention paying for each connector, even if they are really inexpensive. I don't have to pay what amounts to maintenace fees for any other cartridge system I own, nor do I have to open any of them up on a regular basis just to get them to play a lousy 30 minutes of my favorite games. Hell with that, I'm putting my damn foot down.

[MF_Luder]

I don't know about anyone else, but I was able to get a Top Loader for a pretty decent price. If you wait a little bit and gradually search on E-bay, you can get anything for a great price. I got mind for around $55, shipping included. It came with a Dogbone, a game and all of the original connections, I guess everyone else just lucked out.

I never once said that anybody was cheap, I just simply said that installing the 72 pin is soo easy, even a Caveman could do it. In fact I might do that for one of my friends and give his girl a NES for her birthday, since they've asked me a few times in the past to borrow mine.

I'm sorry if my opinion offends you, but it really does sound like blatant advertising, not that theres anything wrong with that. Just as long as you don't start advertising crummy CW shows, we've had enough of that here for a lifetime.


I guess if you wait around long enough and snipe multiple auctions, you could eventually score a cheap one, but that applies to everything on eBay (I once got Alien vs Predator [Jaguar] on eBay for under $10 and was sure everyone else on eBay had died for the day).

But overall, you'll pay more for a top-loader than you will for an NES or clone. It might sound like advertising because it's a current product on the market.... but look at it more objectively.... I don't think it comes off as any more of an advertisement than someone saying "Man, God of War 2 is an awesome game, you gotta buy it!" It's not like those people work for Sony . Now, hey, if someone buys a NEX as a result of mine and Bangtango's recommendations, than I'm certainly happy for them. But I bought my NEX used and I recommend to anyone else that they try to find it used as well, if possible. I love mine, but wouldn't have spent $60 on it. EDIT: Crap, now Messiah is going to fire me for recommending used systems instead of new ones.

[bangtango]

But the NES is a $20 product! ROFL

At a yard sale, some flea markets, this forum or a few pawn shops, it might be.

In most Ebay auctions or online stores, no. Go to a .com store that sells video game products, looking to buy a "Original NES with NEW 72-pin connector" and expect it for $20 shipped then see how far you get. Same with Ebay auctions, unless you snipe about 50 of them. The only way I consistently get "steals" is to bid on auctions with a seller that has questionable feedback or a seller who lists an item as "untested because I don't have the hook-ups" or "untested because I don't have the games needed to test the system (or the system needed to test these games)........"

I have a hard time classifying an original NES as a $20 product when 50% of the places that sell them (just a guess) have them higher than $20 before shipping.

Fact is, I've already made up my mind about toaster NES systems. I love using top-loaders but every time I find them for $5 at a lawn sale or thrift store, I can't resist the opportunity to turn around and sell it for a half decent profit online. I've owned four of them but I've never paid "full" price for one, that's for sure. All four have been $6 or less.

[mr.soul]

I definitely get what you're saying about buying stuff online, bangtango. It's only a $20 product for me because I do absolutely none of my shopping online. In my experiences they're all over the place for cheap if you know where to look. These days I wouldn't dream of finding a NES under $20 on eBay.

[Nero 99]

thanks for the replys every one! I think im gonna play yobo most of the time unless i wanna play a game like gaunlet or am wanting to feel some nostalgia. but heres another question, should i use the original nes controoller or the yobo one? sometimes the nes controllerfeels like it works better and other times yobo one feels best. What do you think?

[bangtango]

I definitely get what you're saying about buying stuff online, bangtango. It's only a $20 product for me because I do absolutely none of my shopping online. In my experiences they're all over the place for cheap if you know where to look. These days I wouldn't dream of finding a NES under $20 on eBay.

Yeah, I find about 3-4 toasters a year offline for $10 or less. Since I'm not a fan of toasters, though, I'd sooner spend that $5-10 on a Genesis, Nintendo 64, Super NES, etc. for the same price, something that has a better chance of working problem-free. The problem with the NES systems you find offline for $20 or less is that you have to assume the connector is shot or on the way out. Well, once I got lucky and ended up with a $12 system that fired games up as if it were brand new. I'd never seen such great performance from a toaster since I was a kid. Naturally, I gave it to my nephew for a birthday present. I know a store in my area that sells NES systems with new 72-pin connectors installed, which they do in the store. Naturally, they are well above $20.

I know what I should do. One of these days, I need to hold onto a top-loader I find inside of a thrift store for $5 instead of flipping it on Ebay for $50-60. I just hate the lack of Game Genie support unless you buy the adapter or do a little surgery on your system.


thanks for the replys every one! I think im gonna play yobo most of the time unless i wanna play a game like gaunlet or am wanting to feel some nostalgia. but heres another question, should i use the original nes controoller or the yobo one? sometimes the nes controllerfeels like it works better and other times yobo one feels best. What do you think?

The NES controller is going to work the best, especially if you are playing a game like Bionic Commando. Safe to say it also feels the best, since it is a decent size and not too flimsy.

[RJ]

I got my Yobo last year(?) after trading in old games- purchase price was $30 at this place, I've seen it for more. I never owned an original NES but have played enough NES to know I'm satisfied w/ my Yobo.

I havent had any compatibility probs. w/ any game I have (including Gyromite) but I dont have CV III or Gauntlet (but already have 4 vers. of THAT game!)

My games:
SMB/Duck Hunt
Gyromite
Rad Racer
Popeye
Wrecking Crew
Mario Bros.
Gyruss
Gumshoe
RC Pro-Am
Golf
Hogans Alley
Blades of Steel
BaseWars
Track & Field

I also had Gradius & Archon but not anymore.

[bangtango]

I got my Yobo last year(?) after trading in old games- purchase price was $30 at this place, I've seen it for more. I never owned an original NES but have played enough NES to know I'm satisfied w/ my Yobo.

I havent had any compatibility probs. w/ any game I have (including Gyromite) but I dont have CV III or Gauntlet (but already have 4 vers. of THAT game!)

My games:
SMB/Duck Hunt
Gyromite
Rad Racer
Popeye
Wrecking Crew
Mario Bros.
Gyruss
Gumshoe
RC Pro-Am
Golf
Hogans Alley
Blades of Steel
BaseWars
Track & Field

I also had Gradius & Archon but not anymore.

Zelda doesn't look perfect on the Yobo, since the overworld map gets scrambled. That isn't a problem until you are in a dungeon and trying to decipher where you are from that jumbled mess. Since I know the game fairly well, it isn't an issue for me but I still bomb walls that are WAAAAAY over to the left/right of the map or in areas of the dungeon where there would never be a hidden room. Pity to waste those things, the bombs.

[Nero 99]

hey BangTango i thought you had a a generation nex? Did somthin happen to it a or did you get a yobo just for the hell of it?

[bangtango]

hey BangTango i thought you had a a generation nex? Did somthin happen to it a or did you get a yobo just for the hell of it?

I own both of them and yeah, I got the Yobo for the heck of it. $20 is all it was.