Nintendo Vs. Famicom

[Richter Belmount]

Which of these classic gaming collections has the better variety and exclusives?
Or better quality titles?
Or better advantages?

[XxHennersXx]

Which of these classic gaming collections has the better variety and exclusives?
Or better quality titles?
Or better advantages?

famicom

[DefaultGen]

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[Ed Oscuro]

NES had Power Strike 1 & 2, a better version of Jackal, and...well, I forgot what else. Simply put, it is not entirely blown away by the FC; I think there's enough reasons to keep a NES around.

Also, detachable controllers as standard!

I think you'd be good either way. For FC I mostly just pick up games that I can't get on NES or which have something so different about them (i.e. much better packaging) that it's worth an import.


I wish I knew more about the Famicom. Right now when I think Fami I think pirate multicarts full of Battle City, SMB, and Donkey Kong hacks.
Nah, think of Crisis Force and Recca (cool vertical shooters), Getsu Fuuma Den (predecessor to Castlevania II, really), Splatterhouse Naughty Kids Version; there's all sorts of good stuff. The unlicensed scene churned out some cool things, too.

[Tron 2.0]

Famicom beside you get games that didn't have a u.s release.Your also getting games that are uncut and, special effects that were left out of the u.s release.

Such as the case with, CV3 nes version weak famicom version perfect.

Only time i can think of where the "nes version out do the famicom ones is Jackal and CVII.

Still i perfer the famicom more for it's library of games.. then compare to the nes ones.

Not to mention i find the nes carts caseing to be a waste of space.While the famicom carts are 'small and more compact.

Btw the controll issue isn't a big deal to me... since i use a famicom av.

[Player-2]

decide which language you can read best....consider your power supply...then pick that machine. Dragon warrior is a bitch in japanese! Both have plenty of games, and a $10 convertor will let you play them all...no matter which console you choose.

[InsaneDavid]

NES. See my favorite NES game, StarTropics, never had a Japanese release. :) As much as I love the Famicom, that right there puts it in second place.

[MrRoboto19XX]

I must confess, I'm totally split on this one.

Whereas the collector in me loves the idea of the Famicom, as well as the idea of the myriad of unrealeased games, The OCD in me loves the NES.

See, when lined on a shelf, the NES library would have their end titles facing outward in a very nice manner. This is not the case with the Famicom.

So I guess it's the NES for me....for now.

[XxHennersXx]

decide which language you can read best....consider your power supply...then pick that machine. Dragon warrior is a bitch in japanese! Both have plenty of games, and a $10 convertor will let you play them all...no matter which console you choose.

a converter will not let you play all japanese games on a us console. as for detachable controllers, the AV famicom uses american controllers.

[Aussie2B]

Maybe not ALL but darn near close. As for variety and titles, the Famicom wins because it's got nearly all the great games that the US got (but no StarTropics 1 & 2 is definitely a sad thing) and it's got so much more on top of that. But if you ask me what I want to PLAY, then NES wins out. Detachable controllers and A/V output is a must. Of course, I must admit that out of convenience, I tend to use my top-loader, and then I'm stuck with RF so the A/V Famicom does have it beat.

[Juskin]

Famicom due to games, but I think I like how the NES looks better....well atleast how the controller looks better.

[Gandhara]

Well both have their ups and downs. Unless you can read both English and Japanese you won't want to play all the international titles on a Famicom.

I like the Famicom best for the japanese imports that never came to U.S. or Europe and the disk system games for even more extra (like SMB2J and original Castlevania with built in saving feature). Some Famicom games are also superior to their NES counterpart. Examples: Castlevania 3 has enhanced graphics and sound. Ninja Gaiden 3 has better save features and a NORMAL difficulty level.

I like the NES best for the international releases that came out and that everyone plays. As long as they're the same versions I'll play my NES.

[ccovell]

NES had Power Strike 1 & 2

Power Strike??? Uhh... that was the Sega Master System.

Anyway, of course the Famicom wins. We all know some games were changed, degraded or censored when brought to the U.S. (Although a few were improved upon.) However one thing that always bugged me about many NES games was the lame instruction manual that usually contained crude drawings, everything in black & white only. Most Famicom manuals were full-colour, with great drawings of enemies, characters, or just some bonus stuff. It's worth it for the collector.

As far as getting the best playing experience, get an AV Famicom, a 60-72-pin adaptor for the NES games, and you get the best of both worlds.

[Ed Oscuro]

Power Strike??? Uhh... that was the Sega Master System.
*slaps forehead*

Right, I mean Power Blade 1 & 2. Power Blade 1 is a modified version of Power Blazer (JP-only title).

[Gandhara]

The powerblades were only NES games? Didn't know that. I have powerblazer on the Famicom I can see how theyre related.

[ccovell]

However, Power Blade 2 was released in Japan, just under a different name. (Captain Saver)

The Famicom still got most of the good stuff, and almost none of the awful US-developed dreck that's on the NES. (Japan already had enough crap what with Bandai releasing all their licensed games.)

[Kamisama]

famicom of course

[Tron 2.0]

Power Strike??? Uhh... that was the Sega Master System.
As far as getting the best playing experience, get an AV Famicom, a 60-72-pin adaptor for the NES games, and you get the best of both worlds.
Agreed that's my setup.. any time i wanna play a nes cart on my famicom av i use the 60-72 pin adaptor.

Wich has helped me any time i wanna play a game in english.

Or if the jpn version is too expensive i can get it cheap, with the nes version.

Best of both worlds for the most part.

[Niku-Sama]

if you going to be all technical and such i would say technicaly the famicom would have more variety and such

lots more games, most are the same as us game but some were never released in japan (small %) add ons, FDS 3D glasses, funky pachinko controllers, ways to be able to check yuor bank account if you had a data line in 1985, all sorts of add ons and a seperate system like the Twin Famicom.

but the NES have games you can read!

[Fuyukaze]

the famicom hands down out does the nes. it has the games, it has the accesories, and it has the advantages. if language was all that mattered, then the nes would win hands down. problem is language isnt an accesorie, it's not a liabrary of games, and it's not an advantage. it's just what it says it is. a language. look at all the exclusives japan got that we didnt. sure we got some games they didnt get, but the vast majority of games we got, they did. look at the accesories they got that we didnt. the varaity in system colors and models, the controlers, the genres of gaming. they got sweet home for cryin out loud. if you could read it, and even if you couldnt getting a famicom to enjoy the stuff we didnt get is worth it. there's a reason the famicom is still the king in japan.

[XxHennersXx]

Well both have their ups and downs. Unless you can read both English and Japanese you won't want to play all the international titles on a Famicom.

I like the Famicom best for the japanese imports that never came to U.S. or Europe and the disk system games for even more extra (like SMB2J and original Castlevania with built in saving feature). Some Famicom games are also superior to their NES counterpart. Examples: Castlevania 3 has enhanced graphics and sound. Ninja Gaiden 3 has better save features and a NORMAL difficulty level.

I like the NES best for the international releases that came out and that everyone plays. As long as they're the same versions I'll play my NES.

Castlevania 3 does not have enhanced graphics. Just sound.

Anyway, an AV Famicom with a 10 dollar converter wins. The AV Famicom will play any NES game with a converter, the nes will not play every famicom game. the AV Famicom has no lockout chip, which is partially why nes's have the blinking screen. And it has composite output, which the Top loading nes does not. The AV Famicom can use any NES controller as it has the same detachable controllers and also the Famicom expansion port which allows use of several japanese only add ons. Thus, the AV Famicom with a converter is the best choice.

[ccovell]

Castlevania 3 does not have enhanced graphics. Just sound.

It does have enhanced graphics, both on the Famicom and NES. You just have to know what to look for.

In normal NES/FC games, the background tiles can only have up to 4 colours in every 16x16-pixel area. That's a limitation of the NES hardware. The mappers in Castlevania III (MMC5) and Akumajou Densetsu (VRCVI) both have circuitry that allows the background tiles to have up to 4 colours in each 8x8-pixel area, enhancing the colour detail.

[Jorpho]

the AV Famicom has no lockout chip, which is partially why nes's have the blinking screen.

That's a new one on me. Doesn't that mean you can reduce the occurrences of the blinking screen by snipping the lockout chip's connection?

[XxHennersXx]

That's a new one on me. Doesn't that mean you can reduce the occurrences of the blinking screen by snipping the lockout chip's connection?

yes. To disable it you clip pin 4 on the lockout chip.

[Artman40]

Well, some famiclones beat both Famicom and NES due to a very high library of games and turbo controllers. (although some famiclones still suck)

[otoko]

Well, some famiclones beat both Famicom and NES due to a very high library of games and turbo controllers. (although some famiclones still suck)

I can't help but agree. I really don't like the ones like the ones smaller than the cart.