That's it... I'll just be honest. Achievement Points are retarded. [Archive]

agbulls

07-23-2007, 10:26 PM

PapaStu

07-23-2007, 10:28 PM

It honestly keeps me playing the game longer. Id'a dropped Civil War or Crackdown long ago otherwise. Too bad a fair portion of my other games have a heavy online presence, and I don't feel like dealing with the dumbasses online to get those.

I demand a Poll!

agbulls

07-23-2007, 10:30 PM

Nesmaster

07-23-2007, 10:30 PM

It makes me take a look at games I otherwise wouldn't glance twice at, and it makes the truly good games even better. It's an addiction for me, nothing at all to do with e-penis. That term in and of itself is "retarted".

Geometry Wars, a damn fine game, is made better with the addition of achievements. I don't think anyone would dare care to try to survive 1 million if they didn't get a badge showing they did it.

agbulls

07-23-2007, 10:35 PM

It makes me take a look at games I otherwise wouldn't glance twice at, and it makes the truly good games even better. It's an addiction for me, nothing at all to do with e-penis. That term in and of itself is "retarted".

Correct me if I'm wrong, but according to your Gamertag you last played Meet the Robinsons on 360. Cummulative Gamerankings score? 66%, a true finer piece of modern gaming.

Good luck at defending that one Mr. 58,000 points.

Leo_A

07-23-2007, 10:36 PM

I would've agreed with this before buying a Xbox 360, but now I feel completely the opposite. I like the idea of achievement points and it helps me get my moneys worth out of games since I'll try things I never would've before.

Nesmaster

07-23-2007, 10:38 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, but according to your Gamertag you last played Meet the Robinsons on 360. Cummulative Gamerankings score? 66%, a true finer piece of modern gaming.

Good luck at defending that one Mr. 58,000 points.

And I have played worse, and probably will play ones worse in the future. I love achievement points. You don't and that is fine too. But they're sorely missed whenever I play something on another platform. I hope Sony's trophies work in a similar fashion. :)

Fuyukaze

07-23-2007, 10:41 PM

I thought playing the game how ever you wanted was enough to get one's money worth in a game. I still dont see the point in achievement points. Realy, isnt playing the game and enjoying it achievement enough? I'm thankfull Nintendo and Sony hasnt jumped on that wagon.

agbulls

07-23-2007, 10:41 PM

And I have played worse, and probably will play ones worse in the future. I love achievement points. You don't and that is fine too. But they're sorely missed whenever I play something on another platform. I hope Sony's trophies work in a similar fashion. :)

Congrats on having enough free time to play garbage games to their completion. I can't even imagine how many hours a week you must spend on there. And Ratatoulle? Don't you have ANY standards? Also, don't you feel you're missing quality games on other platforms that don't have points?

Leo_A

07-23-2007, 10:49 PM

I wouldn't buy games for the points, but for the games I do buy, I think it adds to the experience.

I did buy Sonic on XBLA knowing I have at least 5 other ways to play the game already, so I suppose I perhaps bought that for the points.

Nesmaster

07-23-2007, 10:52 PM

Congrats on having enough free time to play garbage games to their completion. I can't even imagine how many hours a week you must spend on there. And Ratatoulle? Don't you have ANY standards? Also, don't you feel you're missing quality games on other platforms that don't have points?

Many hours. I'll be honest, I wanted to play Ratatouille, not only for achievements. It wasn't the best, but it wasn't GOTY material either. Right now, the only thing interesting to me on the Wii is a port of a gamecube game (RE4) and on the PS3, I'm in the middle of Motorstorm. Nothing on that front until Heavenly Sword, LittleBigPlanet, and Uncharted: Drake's fortune ship. Likewise on the Wii with SMG and SSBB. Handhelds get no play from me anymore. Nothing of interest on the PS2. I've slowed down in the last few weeks on achievements, not sure if that's a burnout of playing bad games, or just nothing interesting to play (good or bad), but once I finish up Meet the Robinsons it'll probably be nothing until Stranglehold/Two Worlds/Bioshock (yes, finally some good games are coming... :))

PapaStu

07-23-2007, 10:56 PM

Did you actually buy all of these? Rent? Check out from the GS/EB you work at? 50-60 bucks a bad game adds up REAL REAL fast. No way is that worth it for the achievement points

PallarAndersVisa

07-23-2007, 10:58 PM

its already been said, but it makes you play games twice that you normally would turn away from at first glance. I mean, how bad could it be? You'll eventually find a really cool game that you otherwise wouldn't have cared about.

Tell me you've never thought inside your head "wow" when you see a gamertag with 10,000+ achievement points. Its really NOT a big deal, but people notice.

agbulls

07-23-2007, 10:59 PM

Nesmaster

07-23-2007, 11:00 PM

Meet the Robinsons ran me $15, when I'm done with it I'll trade it in for $24 credit, and save that towards a good game. I get all the games I buy cheap enough that I'll make a little bank when I trade them in.

Most of the bad games on my gamercard I rent, I will only buy them if I can get more value for them when I beat them and trade them in.

Kid Ice

07-23-2007, 11:02 PM

I don't understand the question (and if you want to ask if something is "retarded" you should really spell it correctly). Are you asking if the achievements themselves are worthwhile, or just the points?

If you're just asking about achievements, I'd say absolutely yes. They make a good game better, and may possibly add some level of interest to a poor game.

Points, I'd say sort of yes. It's sort of a hobby within the hobby. I don't care about them and I couldn't even guess how many I have, but I can see why one would in order to enjoy the Xbox 360 experience to the fullest.

As for the "don't you have better things to do with your time?" question, I don't think that needs to be asked here. We all have "better" things to do with our time, we just like to do this.

Nesmaster

07-23-2007, 11:02 PM

You're impressed by people wasting that much time? That's what gets that "wow" from me.

I spent 56 hours unlocking all the achievements in Earth Defense Force 2017. Would I have went through the game the game the 5 times required to get the achievements if there were no achievements? Probably not. But not once did I think I was wasting my time, because that was 56 hours well spent. EDF2017 is currently my second favorite game on the 360, behind Crackdown! :D

alxbly

07-23-2007, 11:05 PM

I think Achievement Points are a good bonus, but that's really all they are to me. I've had my 360 since April and since then I've got 605 points, most of which are from Dead Rising. I like the added challenge from attaining achievement points in games that I'm really enjoying, but points aren't enough to convince me to play other games I have little or no interest in.

PallarAndersVisa

07-23-2007, 11:22 PM

You're impressed by people wasting that much time? That's what gets that "wow" from me.

I'm impressed that you have 1,000+ posts here as well. Yes, I get "impressed" when I see people waste so much time

agbulls

07-23-2007, 11:27 PM

I'm impressed that you have 1,000+ posts here as well. Yes, I get "impressed" when I see people waste so much time

Member since 2004, roughly 1.5 posts a day. Doesn't take much time to be a contributing member to the only site on the net with half a brain.

Nesmaster

07-23-2007, 11:28 PM

Kid Ice said it better than I could have... I'd be fine with achievements without the actual point value, but they would have to be more creative that way. For example the EDF achievements would be really good even without a point value, but all of those movie games would be throwaways.

dgdgagdae

07-23-2007, 11:51 PM

Hmm, sort of an insulting tone for asking people why they enjoy playing games the way they play, no? "Retarted"? I'm not sure if you're insulting the mentally retarded, people who enjoy the achievements, or the English language.

The whole achievement system used to make me scratch my head. Microsoft loses money on the console but makes money selling games. And yet, they've designed a system that encourages people to spend more time playing the same game instead of moving on and buying a new one? But put into perspective in a world where games are overwhelmingly multi-platform, and it helps drive those who may otherwise not have a preference of which version to buy. Genius.

To answer the original question (I think): I've had my Xbox 360 since October of '06, and I have 1510 achievement points. I get some here and there accidentally, but it's not what makes playing games fun for me. Admittedly, I smile and have to go back and find the reason I "earned" it, so it adds enjoyment. But I don't pursue them.

Nesmaster

07-24-2007, 12:00 AM

The only bad thing about achievements is, after you hear as many unlock as I have, you start to hear that sound everywhere for no reason. ROFL

I know the sign-in sound is the same thing, but that's besides the point. Sometimes when I"m playing something, someone will sign in at the exact wrong time and I'll immediately think "huh? wtf could I have just unlocked?", only to realize that someone just signed in.

Achievements, like any addiction, has bad side effects. LOL

bangtango

07-24-2007, 12:01 AM

Congrats on having enough free time to play garbage games to their completion. I can't even imagine how many hours a week you must spend on there. And Ratatoulle? Don't you have ANY standards? Also, don't you feel you're missing quality games on other platforms that don't have points?

Garbage games to you and a few others maybe. Yet somebody has to buy (or rent) Meet The Robinsons and Ratatouille. That is why they were released.

I'm not here to debate Achievement Points and I'm not here to defend a couple games I've never played. I just don't understand why you need to critique what a guy is playing. If someone wants to play games that I think are garbage, or a system that I think is garbage, I don't give them a hard time about it. It's their money, their system and their free time. What difference is it to you what games Nesmaster is playing?

boatofcar

07-24-2007, 12:07 AM

People who spend hours on acheivement points are losers. People who spend hours on video game irc chatrooms and video game forums are super cool.

Seriously, get off your high horse.

CYRiX

07-24-2007, 12:07 AM

Sounds like somebody's got a case of the mondays!

Nesmaster

07-24-2007, 12:18 AM

People who spend hours on acheivement points are losers. People who spend hours on video game irc chatrooms and video game forums are super cool.

Seriously, get off your high horse.

Exactly! So long as we enjoy what we're doing with our free time, who is to tell us what is cool and what isn't?

90% of my free time is spent on my 360/PS3, or on here. And I couldn't be happier. :)

TurboGenesis

07-24-2007, 12:19 AM

For honesty, I am care less about Achievement points. I just play the game to play it. I still find more fun in other games on other platforms regardless if they have achievement points or not.

I have alot of fun playing Senko no Ronde but barely have any achievement points but I have 20 hours logged with the ingame timer.

I play a game because it is fun and giving me good times.

here is my gamer card
http://card.mygamercard.net/gelsig/sonic+r+0.png

I guess I suck because I don't have high achievement points.
I guess I suck because I don't post alot in game forum.
I guess my e-dingaling is small >_< -- At least my real dingaling is good enough size ^_~

Joker T

07-24-2007, 12:27 AM

I like gamerscore and achievements. I think of it sort of as a high score across all my games and I do enjoy getting them.

Before achievements would you say that people who played alot of different games and played them to 100 percent completion wasted their time doing so? Achievements are rewards for the dedicated and hardcore gamers.

You don't have to like them but you also don't need to insult people like Nesmaster that enjoy them.

Moo Cow

07-24-2007, 12:29 AM

We've been discussing in #vbender and scooter said it best: "achievements = e-penis length."

I know people who play crap games to get points, or who play one particular section over and over and over to get one specific achievement. Afterwards, I'm always told "man, that totally sucked -- that game blows." Or, "that achievement took me 5 hours to get."

So, I beg the question: Why play something if you aren't enjoying it? Is your e-penis really that small?

What about collecting trophies on Super Smash Bros. Melee? Or trying to accomplish goals in general? Yeah, I'd say if you're not having fun, stop playing it, but as long as you enjoy trying to get the achievement points, what's the problem? I'm not going to argue with the first example: if someone hates the game, they probably shouldn't play it. They also shouldn't buy a shitty game just for points to earn. But what if they enjoy it? When I beat Super C, it took days out of my life. But you know what? I enjoyed them. Sure, there was a lot of sitting around yelling at the Nintendo, but it was all worth it in the end. I like a challenge in my video games. I set goals in games, much like achievements. I don't get points awarded, but I get sense of accomplishment.

Dangerboy

07-24-2007, 12:45 AM

Am I the only who noticed the irony in spelling "retarded" wrong in the topic title?

smork

07-24-2007, 12:54 AM

What's wrong with achievements? I see them as a little motivator. Nesmaster's use of EDF is a good example. I love the game and want to finish everything -- the 500 points waiting for me after I finish the remaining 10 levels I have on Inferno are the pinprick in my ass to do it.

Some achievements i'll never get -- I don't have the motivation to get all 1250 in Crackdown, and while I am loving Blue Dragon I'll never see the achievements for maxing out all characters. But achievements that fit into the flow of the gameplay are fun and do add value.

I certainly wouldn't go out of my way to play shit games to get points (as I don't have enought time to play kiddie games, way too many other games out there for all sorts of systems) but if that's what floats your boat, so what? It's no worse than trying to get a better high score on a shooter, or do all the side quests in a mediocre RPG.

bangtango

07-24-2007, 12:55 AM

Am I the only who noticed the irony in spelling "retarded" wrong in the topic title?

I noticed it as well. Kid Ice made a comment about it earlier. Let this thread hang around long enough and it will generate one or two post of the year candidates.

Icarus Moonsight

07-24-2007, 02:57 AM

Activision Patches > Achievement Points

I probably could have earned the Enduro and Spider Fighter ones but, when you're 6, taking a picture of a TV that you can actually make anything out on is more difficult than passing the bar to get the damn patch. Damn you Polaroid! It's just too easy these days. :p

I don't understand the whole Gamerscore thing. What do you get for a high one? I'd rather the same achievement unlock something in game. Like say, an easter egg, mode or something else that actually matters - outside of the e-penis gauge.

It's really a smart feature though. Get people addicted and they will buy anything to up their gamerscore. Kinda like herbal enhancement for you're e-penis. Don't do a thing, but that doesn't stop people from buying into them time and again.

DigitalSpace

07-24-2007, 03:59 AM

As for the "don't you have better things to do with your time?" question, I don't think that needs to be asked here. We all have "better" things to do with our time, we just like to do this.

Quoted for truth.

I think achievement points are a little overrated, but it was a cool idea and adds to the Xbox experience. And some of them can be pretty interesting (such as the ones that encourage you to mess up somehow).

scooterb23

07-24-2007, 08:21 AM

Wow, I got quoted in the opening post woooo!

I'm a fan of achievement points honestly, I think they help extend a game's life past the point I would normally lose interest. The one thing I don't agree with is changing the game (i.e. sliders in sports games) for the sole reason of getting easy points. I'm thinking specifically about the sports games, which give you a lot of points for scoring X points in a game. Making the game super easy just to grab those points is really cheap, and goes against the whole system... but of course, that's just my opinion.

heybtbm

07-24-2007, 09:25 AM

People who spend hours on acheivement points are losers. People who spend hours on video game irc chatrooms and video game forums are super cool.

Seriously, get off your high horse.

I'll second that.

I love achievements. It extends the time I play a particular game well beyond what I would normally. It's a challenge to get certain achievements just like it was to get the "high score" or "ultimate sword" or whatever in years past.

I actually see this topic differently. When someone has a large amount of achievements for a game, it's apparent that they have the ability to finish what they start. When you see someone who plays a ton of games and still doesn't have the achievement for finishing the game (for instance), it always confuses me. If you pay $60 for a game...why wouldn't you at least finish the damn thing?

Anyway, take it easy. Remember...there is no wrong way to spend your free time. No one is keeping track of what you do. Just keep the important things in perspective and you'll be fine.

TurboGenesis

07-24-2007, 01:22 PM

I actually see this topic differently. When someone has a large amount of achievements for a game, it's apparent that they have the ability to finish what they start. When you see someone who plays a ton of games and still doesn't have the achievement for finishing the game (for instance), it always confuses me. If you pay $60 for a game...why wouldn't you at least finish the damn thing.I guess I am have problems to you? Sorry I have too many games I work up to 60+ hours a week and have wife and kids to juggle inbetween game playing. Thanks mate, shit on me some more

Slate

07-24-2007, 01:48 PM

If I'm playing Guitar hero 2 and I beat jordan on expert, I want proof that I did.

PDorr3

07-24-2007, 04:13 PM

I am another one who enjoys getting achievements, I am at around 34k now I think. Just like everyone else has said it makes me buy or rent games I normaly would not (usualy rent though for ones I am not sure about) and some of them I really end up enjoying alot that I otherwise probably never would have even played.

I dont play sports games to boost my score either, only one I have played is NBA street only because it was actualy a fun arcadey type basketball game. Sure I go out of my way to achieve some points, like when I got my 360 I played ridge racer 6 over 100 hours so that I could get 940 gamercore in it (I can also thank RR6 for getting me into the racing genre, never before had I actualy enjoyed a racing game other than mario kart). I usualy take breaks from achievements, like my last break was like 6 or 7 months where I went back to playing Final fantasy 11, so I estimate my next break will be when the new expansion comes out later this year.

heybtbm

07-24-2007, 05:37 PM

I guess I am have problems to you? Sorry I have too many games I work up to 60+ hours a week and have wife and kids to juggle inbetween game playing. Thanks mate, shit on me some more

Huh? I think something was missed in translation. You totally misunderstood what I was saying.

dave2236

07-24-2007, 05:44 PM

I keep playing Viva Pinata to get the achievment points.

Nintendo Gamer

07-24-2007, 07:21 PM

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agbulls

07-24-2007, 07:22 PM

Wow, talk about some serious backlash. Woah! I wasn't trying to personally attack anyone, although I can see how that could be perceived. I'm just surprised that people have so much free time that they eventually play games like Ratatouille to completion. Being married and having a full time job makes it pretty damn impossible to even conceive of 50,000 points.

The funny thing is that I'm not saying I hate achievements in their totality. I do agree its a good thing for games to have, as they act as virtual trophies. However, with that said, I just don't understand playing games to JUST get the points. That was really my point. Some people seem to agree with me there, and others not so much.

Regardless, this has become a really interesting topic...and I'm happy I sounded angry in the first post, cause it's made things more interesting.

Nesmaster

07-24-2007, 07:32 PM

I didn't view your posts as an attack, but more of a reason why I end up playing some of the stuff I play. I think it has to do with the "wanting more for no reason" mentality. Achievements Points, outside of that contest that earned some people free things for unlocking so many points, really do nothing at all. And yet I somehow feel compelled to increase that number...

Anyways, no hard feelings here. Game on agbulls, achievements or no achievements. :)

heybtbm

07-24-2007, 07:57 PM

Being married and having a full time job makes it pretty damn impossible to even conceive of 50,000 points.

Agreed. But really...how many people have 50,000+ points? Nesmaster has around 58k and is 35th in the Canada. That means only 34 Canadians have more points. That's a pretty small segment of any demographic, let alone gamers.

Still, I've never bought a game only for the achievement points. It seems a little pointless to me. However, at times they've been the only reason I've finished games like King Kong, simulated 30 season in Madden or played umpteen broken multiplayer matches in Prey. What can I say?

Nesmaster

07-24-2007, 08:06 PM

Agreed. But really...how many people have 50,000+ points? Nesmaster has around 58k and is 35th in Canada. That means only 34 Canadians have more points. That's a pretty small segment of any demographic, let alone gamers.

Fixed. :)

Worldwide has me at 569th. 569 is still a small number out of the 1.5 million+ on MGC.

heybtbm

07-24-2007, 08:08 PM

Fixed. :)

Worldwide has me at 569th. 569 is still a small number out of the 1.5 million+ on MGC.

Forgot you're from Canada...not the US. Even so...that's pretty high up there.

Gentlegamer

07-24-2007, 08:10 PM

Are there any Achievements that are worthy of prestige?

NE146

07-24-2007, 08:19 PM

Are there any Achievements that are worthy of prestige?

Sure there are. There are plenty of good ones. Like reaching the 50th(?) wave in Robotron for example. Not everyone can do that :P That being said, there are lots of crap ones. With all of them out there, it's the law of averages.

Anyway, yeah.. I think getting some free stuff for it like during the Old Spice Challenge is a good incentive for people to chase achievements. Heck it made me play through King Kong just to get a free XBLive Contra LOL They need to do that more :)

Nesmaster

07-24-2007, 08:27 PM

Are there any Achievements that are worthy of prestige?

Ones that I have and am damn proud to have achieved:

- Surviving 1 million points in Geometry Wars.
- Both beating SFII on XBLA without losing a match (easier of the two) or a round. (harder of the two... by far)
- I would say Jordan on Expert in GHII, But I didn't do that. Lame I know. :P
- Beating EDF on Inferno.

To a lesser extent:

- HELL mode completed in Bulletwitch.
- Finding all hidden orbs in Crackdown.
- All signature takedowns in Burnout Revenge. (these were damn annoying)
- 100% completion achievements in Bionicle Heroes and Lego Star Wars II.
- Master of Ceremonies in Rainbow 6 Vegas (VERY hard to get 16 people to join your game... I hosted for 3 days straight and never got it. I relied on other people looking to get it from xbox.com to help us all get it. Likewise, this has potential to be the easiest thing ever, but not for me.)
- 10x multiplier in Geometry Wars.
- 7 Stars in SFII

Some achievements I don't have but you should commend anyone with them:

- No Crash Victory in Ridge Racer 6
- Got to Rank #1 in Tony Hawk Project 8
- I would say General in COD3 and Seriously... in Gears of War, but they're too easy to glitch.

and anything on this list here is there for good reason:

http://www.achieve360points.com/list/diff9

http://www.achieve360points.com/list/diff0

That said, FFXI and Chromehounds are probably THE WORST for achievements, followed by Rumble Roses, Bomberman AZ and DOAX2. Tiger Woods 2006 doesn't count, because it has unattainable achievements. That's a different story.

Skelix

07-24-2007, 10:33 PM

Well, I personally love the points. I was off to a slow start as I'm one of those types who never finishes a game. Finally though, I broke my WoW addiction and now work on gamerscore.

Just beat CoD 2 on Veteran, lot of aggravation. But I felt a sense of accomplishment. Working on CoD 3 now, very glitchy game though.

Mostly I've been getting the single player achievments as all the online stuff seems like a scam. Been trying out some of the CoD 3 online (I absolutely suck), and was taught how to get "the scores" for General etc, once you see the glitches like that ruins some of the achievements.

But damn Smash TV beating with no continues.. hmm some are just insane.

GrayFox

07-24-2007, 10:41 PM

I got Fox points. They're worth the same as Achievement Points.

Joker T

07-25-2007, 01:01 AM

Are there any Achievements that are worthy of prestige?

Number one on leaderboard ones, 40,000 points in Call of Duty 3, 10,000 kills in Gears of War. Too many to mention.

PDorr3

07-25-2007, 04:44 AM

Number one on leaderboard ones, 40,000 points in Call of Duty 3, 10,000 kills in Gears of War. Too many to mention.

the thing is though any #1 on leaderboard achievements promotes people to spend 10 hrs a day ranking up to try and get it, in other words cheating to get an achievement they dont deserve. I guess you could commend them for having the patience to sit there killing their buddies all day.

xmagxus

07-25-2007, 11:46 PM

achievements are awesome. It's people like sufoor, and barbieri that dont even play games and just hack / account trade all day long for free points that make achievements bad. Otherwise they are really enjoyable to work towards.

outsider

07-26-2007, 12:30 AM

dgdgagdae

07-26-2007, 12:42 AM

At the end of the day, you've lost a lot of time and basically having nothing to show for it.

But...isn't that what we do? I think the opposite could be argued - that with achievement points, at least there's something to show for the waste of time!

pacmanhat

07-26-2007, 01:08 AM

I really like achievement points, though I understand them for what they are - bragging rights, etc. Some definitely are true achievements (I WILL get the "Jordan" one in GH2 one of these days), but that definitely isn't always the case. I do feel that well-placed achievements can make a great game even better by adding replay value, and developers seem to be getting better at doing this (Crackdown comes to mind, especially...talk about some FUN achievements). It may be a rather trivial number when it comes down to it, but it's something that keeps me playing my 360 (and, if I have a choice between getting a game on 360/PS3/Wii, it pushes things in the 360's favor).

NE146

07-26-2007, 09:16 AM

I think the level 30 and level 100 in Robotron are true achievements you can brag about.. if you can get them :)

And no, I don't have them yet.

s1lence

07-26-2007, 10:14 AM

Being married and having a full time job makes it pretty damn impossible to even conceive of 50,000 points.

How about working 55hrs a week, being married and having two kids and still having 25k in achievement points? Personally I've only played ONE game just for achievement points and that was Madden 06 and only because my brother bought it. I don't rent games so any game that is on my played list I actually own. The fact is, even if worthless, I like getting something for doing something in a game. Especially considering how POOR some endings in games are as of late.

TurboGenesis

07-26-2007, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by agbulls http://www.digitpress.com/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1219448#post1219448)
Being married and having a full time job makes it pretty damn impossible to even conceive of 50,000 points.
How about working 55hrs a week, being married and having two kids and still having 25k in achievement points? Personally I've only played ONE game just for achievement points and that was Madden 06 and only because my brother bought it. I don't rent games so any game that is on my played list I actually own. The fact is, even if worthless, I like getting something for doing something in a game. Especially considering how POOR some endings in games are as of late.

I work 60+ hours a week, married and have 2 children (one at the age of 3 months) and I still fail. I only have 1000 points. Sorry I find more fun playing my old fashion games and the usual shoot them ups. I just fail everywhere. I am just a piece of shit. Thanks everyone. keep shitting on me. Why do I even exist?
http://c1.vse.lv/img/smiles/SmileySuicide.gif

heybtbm

07-26-2007, 11:30 AM

I work 60+ hours a week, married and have 2 children (one at the age of 3 months) and I still fail. I only have 1000 points. Sorry I find more fun playing my old fashion games and the usual shoot them ups. I just fail everywhere. I am just a piece of shit. Thanks everyone. keep shitting on me. Why do I even exist?
http://c1.vse.lv/img/smiles/SmileySuicide.gif

No one is shitting on you. If you're having fun playing games, you "win"...not fail.

s1lence

07-26-2007, 11:54 AM

No one is shitting on you. If you're having fun playing games, you "win"...not fail.

I agree, playing the old games are just as good as playing the new as long as you are having fun. WINNAR!!! in my book.

digitalpress

01-10-2008, 10:05 PM

Ones that I have and am damn proud to have achieved:

- Surviving 1 million points in Geometry Wars.
- Both beating SFII on XBLA without losing a match (easier of the two) or a round. (harder of the two... by far)
- I would say Jordan on Expert in GHII, But I didn't do that. Lame I know. :P
- Beating EDF on Inferno.

To a lesser extent:

- HELL mode completed in Bulletwitch.
- Finding all hidden orbs in Crackdown.
- All signature takedowns in Burnout Revenge. (these were damn annoying)
- 100% completion achievements in Bionicle Heroes and Lego Star Wars II.
- Master of Ceremonies in Rainbow 6 Vegas (VERY hard to get 16 people to join your game... I hosted for 3 days straight and never got it. I relied on other people looking to get it from xbox.com to help us all get it. Likewise, this has potential to be the easiest thing ever, but not for me.)
- 10x multiplier in Geometry Wars.
- 7 Stars in SFII

Some achievements I don't have but you should commend anyone with them:

- No Crash Victory in Ridge Racer 6
- Got to Rank #1 in Tony Hawk Project 8
- I would say General in COD3 and Seriously... in Gears of War, but they're too easy to glitch.

I would REALLY like to see some folks who have loads of achievement points create a NEW thread about the hardest, easiest, most rewarding, and most ridiculous achievement points in 360 games. I find the whole system terribly imbalanced but I agree with many that it also extends the life of so many games. Running a game store I tend to try just about every game that gets traded in and I'm sometimes surprised by what is expected or rewarded in this points system.

Who's gonna start the thread?

PapaStu

01-10-2008, 11:49 PM

I'll mention it to s1lence. He can chime in on that one no problem.

FantasiaWHT

01-11-2008, 08:25 AM

Haven't read the entire thread, so maybe this point has been made, but...

Isn't it basically the equivalent of the old days when you could take a picture of a particularly high score and have it sent in to be published in a magazine? Same sort of harmless fun :)

Daria

01-11-2008, 10:31 AM

Cryomancer

01-13-2008, 03:45 AM

I like acheivements. They give you better excuses to see what you can get away with in games.

Gnome dragging in HL Ep 2 is awesome. Except for the helicopter parts. Fuck helicopters.

Nesmaster

01-13-2008, 06:15 AM

Gnome dragging in HL Ep 2 is awesome. Except for the helicopter parts. Fuck helicopters.

That part sucks. Should have had a Gnome seatbelt. X_X

Cryomancer

01-13-2008, 06:21 AM

I found the best thing was to just throw it with the gravity gun, drive up, repeat. You can kinda get it stuck into the back window but it doesn't stay in well enough for that part.

Nesmaster

01-13-2008, 06:33 AM

I found the best thing was to just throw it with the gravity gun, drive up, repeat. You can kinda get it stuck into the back window but it doesn't stay in well enough for that part.

I lodged him under the steering wheel and drove slowly without taking sharp turns. Worked well enough.

Nature Boy

01-14-2008, 02:59 PM

I think achievements are fantastic. Sure some of them are silly (clear the first level in Asteroids using x shots or fewer), but what's wrong with being a little silly with a game now and again? I love the fact that I have incentive to go back and play games I've 'beaten' but haven't gotten all of the achievements in yet.

When comparing scores with other people I figure it's just a measure of how much time people have to spend playing games. If they wants to get all snobby because they have a higher score than me go nuts. It doesn't bother me a bit.

Icarus Moonsight

01-14-2008, 05:37 PM

I wish everyone had that attitude. Unfortunately, human nature more times demands that the ruler come out, everyone drop trow and then the "big man" is proven. :-/

Frankie_Says_Relax

01-14-2008, 07:49 PM

Personally, I'm pretty ambiguous about Gamerpoints. I don't love them and I don't hate them.

I almost never go after completion of them unless they're tied to a certain achievement will reward with a free downloadbale gamerpic or something.

I also seem to be the ONLY person on all of XBL and the internet that thinks that Microsoft is missing a HUGE and totally OBVIOUS thing in gamerscores:

Why on earth is there NO "TOTAL GAMERSCORE LEADERBOARD"??

If they're made for "bragging rights", and every individual game has it's own leaderboard, why can't we have a rundown of who's got the worlds highest total gamerscores? Wouldn't that be the ultimate bragging right? Knowing your global rank?

Why is this not a totally BASIC feature on XBLA?