View Full Version : OMG: NesterDC Special Edition....
zektor
07-24-2007, 05:15 PM
If anybody here is interested in emulation on the Dreamcast, you *must* grab the SE version of NesterDC floating around on Usenet right now. It's like a NES museum on a CD...honestly. It not only contains every game, but thousands of manuals, box shots, cart shots...all viewable from within the emulator on the DC. It has a game genie incorporated, a note taker (saves notes to VMU) and a bunch more I am just not remembering at the moment. And of course the emulation is perfect.
Really glad I downloaded this one :)
NE146
07-24-2007, 06:14 PM
How about an NZB, or at least a filename, or even a group to look in manually...
mills
07-24-2007, 06:24 PM
8/10 needs moar info
DefaultGen
07-24-2007, 06:27 PM
.....
Cloud121
07-24-2007, 06:32 PM
I've had NesterDC SE since release (December 8, 2005), but it will mess up your Dreamcast. Will the constant seeking in order to display the box art, cart scan, etc. it will cause your Dreamcast's laser to get misaligned. It happened to mine, so I just went back to an older version of Nester.
InsaneDavid
07-24-2007, 07:13 PM
OMG it's dependant on it's own unique file libraries it has to download.
OMG it'll only run games that are part of the official database.
OMG it doesn't have lightgun support.
OMG... I think I'll stick with the 7.1 and 7.1b+ flavors.
I've had NesterDC SE since release (December 8, 2005), but it will mess up your Dreamcast. Will the constant seeking in order to display the box art, cart scan, etc. it will cause your Dreamcast's laser to get misaligned. It happened to mine, so I just went back to an older version of Nester.
It won't wear your Dreamcast any more than a read-intensive commercial Dreamcast game would but yes, it's nowhere near as gentle on the system as NESterDC v7.1 which loads all the graphics and critical stuff at startup (tiny files) and only spins up the disc during initial menu loading after exiting a game and when a game is actually being loaded into memory. The disc actually stops spinning when navigating the game list or managing VMU save data.
Pretty much everything is covered here (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100900).
zektor
07-24-2007, 07:34 PM
I have created 6.0 and 7.1b compilations, but the addition of boxart, cart pics, manuals, NSF player and game genie just blows my older compilations away. So, yeah, OMG.
Anyway, as for finding it....I did say Usenet. There are only two regularly active Dreamcast groups there, and it has been uploaded to both:
alt.binaries.dreamcast
alt.binaries.cd.image.dreamcast
Oh, another tidbit on the 7.1 version, one thing that I *hated* about it was that one of my favorite games (Rygar) is broken in that version. It worked fine in 6.0 tho. There were a few other games that broke in 7.1 as well. But, NesterDC SE fixed em all to work again. So, it has basically the best game compatibility of any previous version. Only missing thing is the lightgun support...oh well.
NE146
07-24-2007, 08:15 PM
Forget it.. I'll do it. The file is "oll_verified_nesterdsse".
nzb for it here http://binsearch.info/?q=oll_verified_nesterdsse&max=25&adv_age=50&server=2
Personally I haven't dicked around with DC NES emulation for like near 5 years or something and abandoned it pretty much once the Xbox was launched. It was pretty darn good even then.. but I suppose I'll see how it's progressed LOL
zektor
07-24-2007, 08:43 PM
Forget it.. I'll do it. The file is "oll_verified_nesterdsse".
nzb for it here http://binsearch.info/?q=oll_verified_nesterdsse&max=25&adv_age=50&server=2
Personally I haven't dicked around with DC NES emulation for like near 5 years or something and abandoned it pretty much once the Xbox was launched. It was pretty darn good even then.. but I suppose I'll see how it's progressed LOL
Why would you even need a NZB? Just use grabit man, go to the group, and download the rars/pars, done. Or, if you ever need to just find something on usenet, grabit has a great search function.
NE146
07-24-2007, 09:40 PM
Why would you even need a NZB? Just use grabit man, go to the group, and download the rars/pars, done. Or, if you ever need to just find something on usenet, grabit has a great search function.
You don't ever need an NZB. and often I prefer perusing groups manually to find stuff not easily searchable (e.g. msg4599-csi.nfo... whatever that may be LOL)
That being said, of course it's easier when available. Now the DC groups aren't exactly large, but if these files were on a huge group like a.b.boneless or something, then yeah I'd much prefer an NZB than downloading all the headers and doing a manual text search. Also as far as searching goes, Newsleecher has supersearch, grabit has it's search, etc. But it's all same as the text web searches at sites like http://binsearch.info. Same same. Zero difference.
You pick and choose what you need at any given time. :) And here we are now on a forum, so I put the link. Now someone can just click once, click twice. Bam. In 2 seconds it's queued up and downloading.
zektor
07-24-2007, 09:49 PM
Thats cool, and I'm sure many will appreciate it man. I would have done that earlier, but I was honestly kind of worried to post any kind of link or directions to it...because of the "illegal factor" yah know :)
BTW: Someone also decided to upload SMS Plus for the DC in the same groups a week or so ago. Last check the files were still there. I downloaded this about a week ago and it is really great. See, I stopped with the DC emulation a few years ago, and the last emulator for the SMS I got was "Smeg". This is far superior, with VMU saving, screenshots and more. Yet another near perfect emulation experience on the DC. I love it.
InsaneDavid
07-25-2007, 01:28 AM
The thing is Scherzo is a brilliant developer that has done some amazing things for the Dreamcast homebrew community. But why he decided to go about creating NESterDC SE the way he did is beyond me. Reworking v7.1 to reinclude the games from v6.0 that had support broken was what many of us were looking forward to. (well that and adding the analog stick for control or just removing it for frameskip all together) A slick frontend may have come with SE but along with it came a rather closed architecture that omitted playing some of the coolest homebrews and translations on a normal TV set. That and it' system requirements because of its compiler were simply uncalled for. There had been leaps and bounds in making selfbooting Dreamcast discs in the years since NESterDC first came into existence - simple, small, plain files were all that I and many others wanted.
Also instead of downloading large, precomplied images you should get the files from the source (http://www.sch3rz0.com/nesterdcse/) and build the disc yourself.
I spent about three years (not all at once mind you) weeding through different dumps before creating my personal NES history lesson on a disc. (By the way, we are STILL without a good dump of the US release of Super Sprint) Came out to 1,313 titles - NES, Famicom and FDS (as well as 161 hacks / pirates in their own hidden directory) games. FDS games work fine in NESterDC v7.1 - if I remember correctly Famicom Disk System support was lost in the SE release.
Cloud121
07-25-2007, 02:02 AM
SMS Plus isn't quite perfect either. The latest version won't save your system settings to your VMU. It will save SRAM, Save States, etc. no problem, but the actual system settings don't get saved. Older versions would "save" but still had to realign the screen settings every time on boot up.
As for NesterDC SE and why it harms the Dreamcast. I read about it, then I realized that's why my DC wasn't reading my commercial games. I realigned the laser, and everything worked fine again. Went back to NesterDC 6.0, and haven't had any problems since. Though, NesterDC SE is good for playing NSF files via my Stereo system. Mega Man 2 anyone? :)
SMS Plus isn't quite perfect either. The latest version won't save your system settings to your VMU. It will save SRAM, Save States, etc. no problem, but the actual system settings don't get saved. Older versions would "save" but still had to realign the screen settings every time on boot up.
The latest version was supposed to fix that, but something went wrong. The documentation has all been updated, but the actual emulator is still the previous version.
InsaneDavid
07-25-2007, 04:20 AM
The latest version was supposed to fix that, but something went wrong. The documentation has all been updated, but the actual emulator is still the previous version.
It was something about the wrong version being uploaded. I think it was supposed to be v0.2DDD and ended up being v0.2b or vice versa. Either way it was never corrected sadly, even though I remember reading a news post somewhere that the creator was aware of the mix up.