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zektor
04-07-2003, 12:14 AM
Before all the NES fanatics chew my head off, let me explain. I love NES games. I grew up with the system and I do believe some of the very best games ever came out for this system. But I think the two choices any NES collector has of playing the games just stinks. Either you have to open your toaster NES and replace the pins to have a non blinking system (in most cases) or buy an expensive top loader and deal with crappy RF-out and incompatibility with some games. I can't really speak for the third option...the SNES to NES adaptor....because I never really had tyhe opportunity to try it. My rant has ended.

Kroogah
04-07-2003, 12:30 AM
I'd rename the topic to "Why I think the NES hardware sucks" but maybe that's just me. ^^;

cheesystick
04-07-2003, 12:58 AM
I am not mad, but i warn you my friend, you are playing with fire.
:devilish: :devilish: :devilish:
:onfire:
-crispy

zektor
04-07-2003, 01:47 AM
Well is the SNES to NES adaptor a viable solution?

Quintracker
04-07-2003, 01:54 AM
I was almost to the point of breaking down and paying for a new connector when I ran across a last ditch effort to save my nes. Basically besides the usually cleaning I took the nes apart and barely bent the connectors on the nes up a little bit. It was kinda time consuming, but I have much more time than money. LOL Ever since then I've yet to have another problem.

NE146
04-07-2003, 03:05 AM
Store your NES in the closet and go play it emu'd on the Dreamcast or the Xbox.. yeah it's a pity the originals flake out so frequently, but that's just even more reason to avoid more wear and tear on the hardware!

Anyway, Xbox/DC emus are pretty much perfect for the most part. With the only major exception being you're holding a Dreamcast or Xbox pad in your hand rather than the NES ones. :P

Works great for that occasional Adventures of LoLo fix :D

Epicenter
04-07-2003, 04:17 AM
It's no big deal to repair a NES. My friend got a NES and some games for under $20, but it had some serious trouble loading carts. So, we took it apart, cleaned everything (even every inch of the motherboard) with rubbing alcohol, replaced the 72-pin connector with one we got off of ebay (for $10, including shipping.) Now, it runs nearly every game first try. Worst-case scenario: You blow in the cart and then it works. ;) Hardly a sacrifice. :D

Personally, I like the Famicom-- but the NES was a complete and utter mess. It makes me wonder what Nintendo of America was thinking in producing this thing, when the Famicom loaded carts perfectly .. Sega had it right from day one.. :roll:

kainemaxwell
04-07-2003, 07:28 AM
All my games I've gottenr ecently do work...they just refuse to work in my NES for some reason (and it's the newer working one Achika sent me too) :(

Mr-E_MaN
04-07-2003, 07:55 AM
I just repaired my NES:
http://www.classicgaming.com/features/articles/nesrepair/

Now I rarely have trouble getting a game to work.

GENESISNES
04-07-2003, 08:04 AM
I tried that thing on classicgaming.com on one of my NES's, and it didnt work, so im stuck with a broken NES. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! When trying to put the pin connector on the motherboard, i scratched the hell out of the motherboard trying to force it on too much.

Scoots
04-07-2003, 08:51 AM
Gimme a break, replacing the 72-pin costs about 7 dollars and takes all of 10 minutes. The "bending the pins up" deal didn't work for me or another friend of mine who tried it. Replace the connector and keep your games clean, it's that simple.

YoshiM
04-07-2003, 09:08 AM
Actually, that's one of the great things about the toaster NES: you CAN replace the pins. If I'm not mistaken, the pin connectors on many systems are hard wired onto the motherboard making it very difficult to replace. The NES pins are held on with screws. Too easy. Once you have it replaced, then you just have to make sure the carts are clean and then clean the pins every once in a while.

It was well over ten years of regular use when I had to try and refurbish my deck and then finally I just replaced the pins. Not bad for a flakey system.

Eternal Champion
04-07-2003, 12:51 PM
But I think the two choices any NES collector has of playing the games just stinks. Either you have to open your toaster NES and replace the pins to have a non blinking system (in most cases) or buy an expensive top loader and deal with crappy RF-out and incompatibility with some games.

Toaster-style NES units are becoming hard to come by in good shape. The NES 2 is rare (especially with dogbone controller) but has a bullet-proof connector. I bought a refurbished NES with a new 72-pin connector (with all accessories) off of Ebay for 50 bucks, because I didn't want to do it myself. If the seller is reliable, go for it.

There are several how-to webpages out there, and the connectors themselves are CHEAP--online shops like MCM Electronics carry them. The metal used in these connectors is WAY better than the original. In fact, you can get it with GOLD connectors, making it the best possible, and it's still not expensive:
http://www.globalsemi.com/cat99/computervideo88.html

My point is, I don't think the options stink. I bought that NES and my old fave dozen games in the last 6 months off of Ebay, I didn't have to spend much money (er, well, 25 bucks each for Zelda I and II complete, but still not bad), and the NES works even better than my original back in the day.

Mr-E_MaN
04-07-2003, 01:52 PM
I think the $6 plus shipping for a pin connector isn't bad but I would always try to repair a nes first. I can get NESes for about 3 bucks each around here and don't like to spend more getting something working then what I paid for it. I still have the nes I bought 2 years ago at a garage sale for 3 bucks an repaired to connector. It will works every time. Since then I have bought about 4 more NESes and repaired them and they work just as good as the one I use now (I test each system for about a week).

Repairing does work if done right most of the time. It just takes a while to do. But if you do not want to go through all of the touble of repairing a new connector it is a nice choice (and easy to install).
I'm just cheap so I stick to the repairing.

TheRedEye
04-07-2003, 03:35 PM
It makes me wonder what Nintendo of America was thinking in producing this thing, when the Famicom loaded carts perfectly .. Sega had it right from day one.. :roll:

Well, more or less, Nintendo was trying to differentiate the NES from all those "video game" thingies that couldn't be given away at the time. The Nintendo was an ENTERTAINMENT SYSTEM, not a video game. And because all those nasty, dirty "video game" systems had carts go in on the top, Nintendo decided they'd be different and have you slide it in like a VCR.

And that is why we have a shoddily-designed system. I have to admit, though, that it seemed to work.

Arqueologia_Digital
04-07-2003, 07:18 PM
I'd rename the topic to "Why I think the NES hardware sucks" but maybe that's just me. ^^;
I think the same man...
OH!, AND I SAW THE ADAPTOR HERE IN ARGENTINA, but really sucks, itīs a pirate bad stuff :/

kainemaxwell
04-08-2003, 08:36 AM
Here's a question:

When did the slang term "Toaster NES" come about?