PETA is using Nintendo characters to fight KFC without permission

[7th lutz]

http://www.kentuckyfriedcruelty.com/superchicksisters/index.asp
That link is for the site to play to game.

Peta have made a Super Mario clone in which you play as a chick who has to stop Colonel Sanders and KFC, it features Mario, Toad, Yoshi, ect. And at the end Yoshi tells Mario that he doesn't have to let Mario ride him as PETA are his new friends and Mario is all beaten up with his arm in a sling.

Nintendo gonna sue Peta's asses for sure. If you would like to report them to Nintendo for copyright infringement then you can do so here

http://www.nintendo.com/contact

[FantasiaWHT]

Boy I'd love for somebody to sue PETA into oblivion. I wonder if that really is PETA that made that though, it could be anybody using their name. Then PETA could sue them, hehe.

[Ed Oscuro]

Dunno if the site falls under trademark infringement as opposed to a parody, but it's definitely a PETA website.

[Cornelius]

heh, kinda cute, but the controls suck.

[MegaDrive20XX]

Same font, similar characters, Yeah they could easily sue.

I still can't get over the fact how funny this is. PETA against a place that serves fried chicken....Abusing the chickens sucks ass...but I'm no rocket scientist..but I'm pretty sure these chicken are gonna die soon so we can put him in a bucket, next to some potatoes...

This is like suing the gas company for hurting Dinosaurs...their dead ass turned into petroleum already...it's a bit too late to sue now..

[Ed Oscuro]

Same font, similar characters, Yeah they could easily sue.
Not really.

Similar characters means nothing - again, parody is constitutionally protected here (and I imagine in Germany as well). The font is a stretch; it could be public domain. Hardly the sort of slam-dunk suit that'd bring the organization down, and besides Nintendo doesn't need any sort of special resentment from PETA.

[gum_drops]

This is like suing the gas company for hurting Dinosaurs...their dead ass turned into petroleum already...it's a bit too late to sue now..

No, it would be like if the gas company found they could breed a certain kind of animal in mass for the purpose of killing and turning them into fuel. Sounds weird, but thats the best I could do to fix your analogy.

[Guru of Time and Space]

I still can't get over the fact how funny this is. PETA against a place that serves fried chicken....Abusing the chickens sucks ass...but I'm no rocket scientist..but I'm pretty sure these chicken are gonna die soon so we can put him in a bucket, next to some potatoes...


FACEPALM dude.
Broiler chickens lead the shittiest lives ever.
Read up on it. KFC refuses to change their disgusting practices of getting a chicken from the slaughterhouse to your plate.
Saying "they're already dead so let's eat them" is completely missing the point.

Anyway, you don't have to be pro-PETA to be against this horrible mistreatment of animals. I'm a vegan and I (usually) can't stand PETA. I really don't think pulling the most outrageous stunts ever is good for garnering the RIGHT kind of attention the animal rights movement needs...

-GoTaS

[Niku-Sama]

i am no vegitarian but say it dead already and eating it, wouldnt that be something like road kill or something some other animal left behind or something of the sort?

for some reason this reminds me of futurama where the taught a lion to live off of tofu.

[noname11]

i like the game.

and since it seems like most people on this board like fan translations/parodies/hombrew, why shouldn't PETA be able to make the same contributions to the gaming world?

or do you all think that some people should be silenced just because you personally disagree with their voice?

[ i know im ignoring some trademark issues, but still, there should be more games like this, from every segment of the political spectrum]

[YoshiM]

I don't know what they do to the chickens, but it's delicious.

[Ryaan1234]

This reminds me, a couple of months ago, I saw a bunch of anorexic-looking chicks... err... babes in bikinis protesting outside a KFC with these giant signs proclaiming "KFC Tortures Chickens" and "go to www.KentuckyFriedCruelty.com". I'm not kidding. I did think it was funny that no one was at the Church's Chicken across the street. I thought they may have been actually attracting KFC customers.

[ubersaurus]

I'll tell you what.

Chickens are dumb. Chickens are also used to cramped conditions, as they've been living in them since we domesticated the fuckers. Ever see a hen house?

This is why chickens are food. I don't feel bad for food. I feel bad for animals hunted for shits and giggles and overhunting for food that is exorbitant, like shark fin, but chickens? Hell no.

[MegaDrive20XX]

Not really.

Similar characters means nothing - again, parody is constitutionally protected here (and I imagine in Germany as well). The font is a stretch; it could be public domain. Hardly the sort of slam-dunk suit that'd bring the organization down, and besides Nintendo doesn't need any sort of special resentment from PETA.

After stopping people in Mexico for Bootleg Nintendo games. I'd say they are in a rampage to stop someone else.

[MegaDrive20XX]

FACEPALM dude.
Broiler chickens lead the shittiest lives ever.
Read up on it. KFC refuses to change their disgusting practices of getting a chicken from the slaughterhouse to your plate.
Saying "they're already dead so let's eat them" is completely missing the point.

Anyway, you don't have to be pro-PETA to be against this horrible mistreatment of animals. I'm a vegan and I (usually) can't stand PETA. I really don't think pulling the most outrageous stunts ever is good for garnering the RIGHT kind of attention the animal rights movement needs...

-GoTaS


Facepalm? that's a new one. What does that mean? Is that a man with a hand for a face? or a Hand with a talking face like in Vampire Hunter D?

P.S. They're dead, who cares. I already said that abusing the chickens is wrong, so read up on it. Oh wait, you did.

[MegaDrive20XX]

No, it would be like if the gas company found they could breed a certain kind of animal in mass for the purpose of killing and turning them into fuel. Sounds weird, but thats the best I could do to fix your analogy.

Your analogy is still broke and makes no sense. Now what?

Just like every moron believes that McDonald's and Wendy's is cutting down the rain forest to raise cattle for beef in South America. If you believe that, then why do most commerical say "100% Pure American Beef?" Oops, you're gonna fix that too huh? Oh goodness, looks like I've been burned or "Facepalmed"....jesus that sounds like a porn...

[Daria]

Your analogy is still broke and makes no sense. Now what?

Just like every moron believes that McDonald's and Wendy's is cutting down the rain forest to raise cattle for beef in South America. If you believe that, then why do most commerical say "100% Pure American Beef?" Oops, you're gonna fix that too huh? Oh goodness, looks like I've been burned or "Facepalmed"....jesus that sounds like a porn...

... Why did you go off on that guy? All he did was reword your own analogy.

[MegaDrive20XX]

... Why did you go off on that guy? All he did was reword your own analogy.

Because he came off rude?

[exit]

I'll tell you what.

Chickens are dumb. Chickens are also used to cramped conditions, as they've been living in them since we domesticated the fuckers. Ever see a hen house?

This is why chickens are food. I don't feel bad for food. I feel bad for animals hunted for shits and giggles and overhunting for food that is exorbitant, like shark fin, but chickens? Hell no.

I don't know about you, but there's something about eating a chicken who had it's legs/wings broken and beak torn off that makes eating them very unsettling. It is kind of asinine to bitch about something that's going to get murdered anyway, but I'd rather not know about how much torture they ensued before hand.

Back on topic tho, I found the game very annoying after about 1 minute.

[gum_drops]

Your analogy is still broke and makes no sense. Now what?

Sorry, thats what happens where you attempt to compare oil production of fossil fuels to raising chickens. You are the one with the broken analogy, there was only so much I could do to fix it. Uh now what?


Just like every moron believes that McDonald's and Wendy's is cutting down the rain forest to raise cattle for beef in South America. If you believe that, then why do most commerical say "100% Pure American Beef?"Oops, you're gonna fix that too huh?

I have not looked into McDonalds beef supplies. I made no statement regarding beef production or land use in South America, you seem to be having an argument with yourself at this point. I assume you have done adequate research on the subject beyond watching McDonalds ads so I wont attempt to argue with you on a subject you are more familiar with.


Oh goodness, looks like I've been burned or "Facepalmed"....jesus that sounds like a porn...

Once again, I didn't use that term, seems to be something you and the guru of time are into using.

[dubiouscubanx]

I don't know what they do to the chickens, but it's delicious.

I'll tell ya what they don't do; use trans fat!!! Yum yum yum!

[MegaDrive20XX]

I wont attempt to argue with you on a subject you are more familiar with.

Apparently, you did argue with me if you took the time out to write this reply and tell me something that obviously insulted me first.

[intvsama]

KFC sure is delicious tho'.

[xmagxus]

PETA is run by a bunch of psychos.

I'd compare the average psychological behavior of a high up in PETA to that of a mass murderer.

[samael64]

it's not really a question of parody though...Due to parody laws, peta has the right to use the trademarks and copyrights belonging to KFC in order to show them in a different light so to speak, to use their own logos and mascots against them. That right stops short of trampling on Nintendo's intellectual property. As the Nintendo characters are the means through which the parody is communicated, though they themselves are not apart of said parody, Nintendo has every right to, and indeed should, sue to protect their intellectual property. Ask the Penny Arcade guys about fair use and parody in relation to Strawberry Shortcake.

[FantasiaWHT]

Good summation there, samael64, that's how I understand it, too- you can make a trademarked character the SUBJECT of a parody, but you cannot use that character in parody of something else.

[tom]

Peta is great, they do an excellent job (which most common people don't understand, sadly).

Seriously, you guys eat chickens who have to live and sleep in their own piss and poo?

[Nintendork]

I am not sure if this is a sueable offense or not, but I informed Nintendo of the website, just in case they haven't already received a thousand e-mails about it, and it's up to their legal department from there.

It's pretty lame of PETA though to throw Mario and Luigi in there with Wiitis. I'm sure Nintendo doesn't want people thinking that playing too much Wii could be harmful to the player!

[FantasiaWHT]

Peta is great, they do an excellent job (which most common people don't understand, sadly).


PETA is great?

PETA is a terrorist organization.



"If we really believe that animals have the same right to be free from pain and suffering at our hands, then of course we're going to be blowing things up and smashing windows," PETA's vegan outreach director said recently. "I think it's a great way to bring animal liberation, considering the level of suffering, the atrocities. I think it would be great if all of the fast-food outlets, slaughterhouses, these laboratories and banks that fund them, exploded tomorrow."

For example, PETA gave $7,500 to Fran Trutt, who was convicted of attempted murder after he planted a radio-controlled nail bomb to kill the president of a U.S. medical company that used animals to research the use of staples in human operations. No one was hurt.
PETA also gave $20,000 to Rodney Coronado, convicted of burning a research lab at Michigan State University, and $5,000 to Josh Harper, who was convicted of assaulting police. PETA has also donated money to ELF-sponsored acts. PETA funding of such violent acts has even caused critics of the group to push for an end to its tax-exempt, non-profit status.

PETA thinks milking a cow is animal abuse, and wants people to stop drinking milk.

PETA animal shelters euthanize animals at a significantly higher rate than most other shelters. Before that information was made public, they claimed their shelters were "no-kill"


According to statistics kept by state regulators, PETA euthanized 1,325 of the 2,103 animals it took in during 1999.

PETA thinks that using an animal in a "living nativity" scene is animal cruelty.

PETA would rather have humans die from pharmaceutical testing than animals.

(all quotes and information taken from news articles found at http://www.rickross.com/groups/animal.html)

[jcalder8]

I don't feel bad for animals that are breed to be food. Just like I don't feel bad about killing cows or cutting down trees that were planted to be forested. Now hunting just to kill something or dolphins that get caught in fishing nets, killed and chucked back in the ocean those I feel sorry for.

[tom]

>>>>PETA would rather have humans die from pharmaceutical testing than animals.<<<<

sounds fair to me.

[7th lutz]

Peta is great, they do an excellent job (which most common people don't understand, sadly).

Seriously, you guys eat chickens who have to live and sleep in their own piss and poo?

They went overboard with animals what is cruel and what is not.

When is it a good thing not wanting cows to be milked when it cause the cows to die? Cows not being milked will cause them some major problems and that includes death.

There people like myself that are limited in what they can eat. I am limited what fruits and vegs. I can eat. Some of that fruit and vegtables makes me go the bathroom every 10 min. . I also have to be careful of how much dairy prudcts I can eat in a day. I can't handle spicy food either. I am not pickey eater, but a person who a person who has stomach that is limited in what foods it can handle.

I eat different types of meat. I eat it because it something my stomach can handle unlike some foods.

What do you expect out of me for eating? I can so much with food the way it is due to my digestive system.

Giving up meat will hurt what I can handle for what I can eat.

[Rob2600]

PETA thinks milking a cow is animal abuse, and wants people to stop drinking milk.

Now that I think about it, how come humans drink other animals' milk? Do cows drink dog milk? Do wolves drink pig milk? Do adult animals even drink milk at all?

By the way, according to wikipedia.org:

Milk contains varying levels of white blood cells, depending upon the health of the source animals. Controversy surrounds whether these are somatic cells or pus. In the U.S., one to seven drops of these cells are in every eight ounce glass of milk, varying by state, according to guidelines set up by the Food and Drug Administration. Seventeen states produce milk that would be illegal to sell based on somatic cell limits in Europe.


PETA would rather have humans die from pharmaceutical testing than animals.

If the pharmaceutical companies would stop creating pointless prescription drugs and marketing them to insecure people, there'd be fewer drugs to test.

[dendawg]

IMHO, Nintendo suing PETA would accomplish nothing other than giving PETA free publicity.

[noname11]

I don't know what they do to the chickens, but it's delicious.

only the skin is delicious. The actual chicken meat inside doesnt taste so well.


Cant they just sell us the skin? Made from stem cells of course! [Yeah, i'm opening that can of worms too]

[Guru of Time and Space]

PETA is great?

PETA is a terrorist organization.

As is the ALF, and I support everything they do.


PETA thinks milking a cow is animal abuse, and wants people to stop drinking milk.

In many cases, their is plenty of abuse involved with milking dairy cows.
Overcrowding, living in filth, being force fed disgusting food laced with antibiotics and hormones, being artificially inseminated in order to produce milk while their baby is ripped out of them and usually taken to another factory to be used as veal (this involved tying the calf up in a small, dark box where it has no room at all to move, to even turn around, so that the meat on it's bones stays tender. It's horrible.)
You should stop drinking milk for health reasons anyway. It's just no good for the human body as it is completely un-natural.


PETA thinks that using an animal in a "living nativity" scene is animal cruelty.

It's just more objectification of life.


PETA would rather have humans die from pharmaceutical testing than animals.

(Example) Testing drugs intended for humans on mice is not going to prove anything. How the hell is a mouse's body similiar to mine at all?
If you're going to take the drug, test it on yourself... or develope better laboratory practices; a way we can study drug effects without the use of any type of "lab rat", cruelty-free. Animal testing does nothing.

-GoTaS

[Richter Belmount]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pYKdsIHE3is

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Vu17ZbAIcQc

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_DkjM1B5kpI

off topic post but i couldnt help posting this

[Moo Cow]

As is the ALF, and I support everything they do.



In many cases, their is plenty of abuse involved with milking dairy cows.
Overcrowding, living in filth, being force fed disgusting food laced with antibiotics and hormones, being artificially inseminated in order to produce milk while their baby is ripped out of them and usually taken to another factory to be used as veal (this involved tying the calf up in a small, dark box where it has no room at all to move, to even turn around, so that the meat on it's bones stays tender. It's horrible.)
You should stop drinking milk for health reasons anyway. It's just no good for the human body as it is completely un-natural.



It's just more objectification of life.



(Example) Testing drugs intended for humans on mice is not going to prove anything. How the hell is a mouse's body similiar to mine at all?
If you're going to take the drug, test it on yourself... or develope better laboratory practices; a way we can study drug effects without the use of any type of "lab rat", cruelty-free. Animal testing does nothing.

-GoTaS

Milk IS good for the body, despite being unnatural. Vaccines are unnatural. And, a mouse is similiar to you because it has a heart, a brain, bones, etc. There are tons of similarities in humans and animals, especially as to how something will effect you. If you give a rat something, and it dies, are you going to drink it because you're not a rat?

[Aaron]

Question, does PETA care about human rights? Is it just me or am I the only one who really wants KFC badly now? All that flash game did for me was make crave KFC even more. :/

[PsychedelicShaman]

FACEPALM dude.
Broiler chickens lead the shittiest lives ever.
Read up on it. KFC refuses to change their disgusting practices of getting a chicken from the slaughterhouse to your plate.
Saying "they're already dead so let's eat them" is completely missing the point.

Anyway, you don't have to be pro-PETA to be against this horrible mistreatment of animals. I'm a vegan and I (usually) can't stand PETA. I really don't think pulling the most outrageous stunts ever is good for garnering the RIGHT kind of attention the animal rights movement needs...

-GoTaS

Surprisingly I agree with this man completely, but disagree with everyone else. Going veg is a personal choice that shouldn't be shoved in anyone's face by any organization.

There's way too many thing's wrong with this thread; I'll just leave it as I feel a strong disgust towards megadrive at this point.

[XYXZYZ]

I lost my patience at Lv 4 and threw the game. Only did 38,600... I doubt I'll be sending that tape to Twin Galaxies.


Play this instead, it's a Pac Man clone wherein you play Ted Nugent, chomping hamburgers and eating liberal celebrities' heads when he powers up with a delicious steak.


http://peta-sucks.com/tedman.html

[Promophile]

Testing drugs intended for humans on mice is not going to prove anything. How the hell is a mouse's body similiar to mine at all?
If you're going to take the drug, test it on yourself... or develope better laboratory practices; a way we can study drug effects without the use of any type of "lab rat", cruelty-free. Animal testing does nothing.

-GoTaS

I wasn't going to get involved in this topic, but there is just sooo much wrong with this statement. The human body is very similar to that of a mouse. They have a brain, lungs, kidneys, a circulatory system, ect. The reason we test on them is because they're very similar to humans, we share many genes. It turns out that drugs often effect our bodies in the same way.

A countless number of human lives have been saved because of animal testing. How are we supposed to test the effects of a drug without TESTING the drug? If we didn't test on animals we'd still be suffering from polio, small pox, and many other diseases.

[Apollo]

Simply put,
I support the fact that PETA cares about animals to try and reform the way they are slaughtered.
I do not support their methods of doing so.

[Apollo]

Sorry about the double post, but...


This is like suing the gas company for hurting Dinosaurs...

Congratulations, you just got sig'd. That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard in a while. You win one internets.

[Chaz From Phantasy Star 2]

... Why did you go off on that guy? All he did was reword your own analogy.

*shakes head*

I just don't know about you sometimes..........................

[Richter Belmount]

I lost my patience at Lv 4 and threw the game. Only did 38,600... I doubt I'll be sending that tape to Twin Galaxies.


Play this instead, it's a Pac Man clone wherein you play Ted Nugent, chomping hamburgers and eating liberal celebrities' heads when he powers up with a delicious steak.


http://peta-sucks.com/tedman.html
>_< XD that post made my day

[Ed Oscuro]

After stopping people in Mexico for Bootleg Nintendo games. I'd say they are in a rampage to stop someone else.
Q: What do this and bootlegging have in common?

A: Not much. Bootlegging is a crime, and - believe it or not - there actually are copyright laws in Mexico.

[Bluteg]

PETA kills more animals than they save. Those hippies should go back up the the tree they climbed down from. Probably 75% of my daily intake of food is consisted of meat, milk, cheese and eggs. I don't think I've ever ate a salad with out cheese and some type of meat. I don't give a fuck it tastes good. I know a few people who actually work at a slaughtering houses and they have BBQs every weekend.

http://www.petakillsanimals.com/

*Bluteg eats a bucket of chicken and stomps puppies and a few babies for good messure*

[DigitalSpace]

This thread makes me want some KFC.

[Nirvana]

Popeyes is way better.

[Kitsune Sniper]

Q: What do this and bootlegging have in common?

A: Not much. Bootlegging is a crime, and - believe it or not - there actually are copyright laws in Mexico.

THERE ARE?!

*quickly hides the hundreds of bootleg CDs he owns*

[Niku-Sama]

no ones legs are made of boots guys, your funny

[DigitalSpace]

Popeyes is way better.

Popeye's Chicken is the shiznit!

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/7607/popeyeslnzl0.jpg

[Push Upstairs]

All this talk makes me want some of that yummy KFC gravy.

[Wolfrider31]

Just a quick note, attempting to lessen the discomfort of factory animals being raised as food isn't as ridiculous as it sounds. First, there's the simple humane argument that says we should lessen the suffering of any living thing because it's a virtue in its own. Not a terribly bad argument, nor is it one that only tree-huggin' soy eating vegans can subscribe to. I'm not vegetarian and I find KFC practices pretty vile. And there's significant differences in the behaviour of free range chickens and chickens that are kep in "hen houses".

Also, there's legitimate cost concerns in terms of business. I don't know how it applies to chickens, but beef farmers have recently been employing more humane methods of slaughtering cattle. One is a curved track that cows walk along before entering a meat grinder, so the cows actually can't see what they're walking into. It sounds silly but a) animals can feel emotion (its documented - look it up) and b) there's a tendency among cows using conventional slaughtering techniques to panic and try to escape. And you can imagine what a dozen or so cows all falling over each other will do. Not only is pretty messy, but can cost farmers significantly in losses.

I imagine that mistreatment of poultry results in a similar loss ratio that can be reduced by upgrading their techniques. It's a perfectly legitimate argument.

[Richter Belmount]

All this talk makes me want some of that yummy KFC gravy.

Certainly , you dont get that at popeyes.

[Push Upstairs]

That and there isn't a Popeye's in this town.

Popeye's does have some great biscuits plus the best chicken strips I've ever had.

[OatBob]

I don't know if any of you have family that grew up outside the cities, but not three generations ago my great-grandma was the one doing the killing of the chickens.

If you wanted chicken for dinner for your family, here's what you had to go through:

Catch the SoB, wring its neck around your wrist.
Chop of the head, hang it by its legs from a line to drain it.
Boil it and pluck the feathers. BTW, this process smells awful.

Then, you may proceed with your regular cooking preparations. Maybe now you can appreciate the former roles housewives had to perform.

Chickens live pretty poor lives, and I hate to say it, but we're doing them a big favor.

Equally hunting could be more active here in southern Minnesota. The DNR has to whack hundreds of deer every year due to overpopulation. I see one almost every night on the way home from work, and I live in town. A few more hunters would help, provided they're not some yahoos that just shoot it and leave it there to rot.

[Xizer]

I really don't like PETA. They end up hurting the cause for preventing the abuse of animals with their lunacy. :(

[Sothy]

If god didnt want you to eat chicken he wouldnt have made them so delicious.

[Jimmy Yakapucci]

Chickens live pretty poor lives, and I hate to say it, but we're doing them a big favor.

But, these chickens have been hatched and raised specifically for this purpose so nobody is 'doing them a favor' since if it weren't for someone's desire for food, they never would have been born. These aren't some kind of wild animal that is being hunted.

JY

[crazyjackcsa]

Just a quick note, attempting to lessen the discomfort of factory animals being raised as food isn't as ridiculous as it sounds. First, there's the simple humane argument that says we should lessen the suffering of any living thing because it's a virtue in its own. Not a terribly bad argument, nor is it one that only tree-huggin' soy eating vegans can subscribe to. I'm not vegetarian and I find KFC practices pretty vile. And there's significant differences in the behaviour of free range chickens and chickens that are kep in "hen houses".

Also, there's legitimate cost concerns in terms of business. I don't know how it applies to chickens, but beef farmers have recently been employing more humane methods of slaughtering cattle. One is a curved track that cows walk along before entering a meat grinder, so the cows actually can't see what they're walking into. It sounds silly but a) animals can feel emotion (its documented - look it up) and b) there's a tendency among cows using conventional slaughtering techniques to panic and try to escape. And you can imagine what a dozen or so cows all falling over each other will do. Not only is pretty messy, but can cost farmers significantly in losses.

I imagine that mistreatment of poultry results in a similar loss ratio that can be reduced by upgrading their techniques. It's a perfectly legitimate argument.

You're Trying to tell me that cows walk right in the grinder? Right.... Sure they do. Straight into the grinder. Bones and eyeballs and all.

[shoes23]

As is the ALF, and I support everything they do.

All these groups (ALF, ELF, PETA) are nothing but petty vandals engaging in economic terrorism. Many of their actions are purely counterproductive. ALF raiding animal testing facilities to rescue animals, so the lab will simply have to replace them with more new animals. PETA activists spraying colored dye on customers who bought new fur coats eventually were arrested and forced to pay restitution for yet another fur coat. Check out petakillsanimals.com for some disturbing info on the PETA animal cruelty case that just ended yesterday.

PETA's views on animal cruelty are just plain insane. Back in 2005 PETA launched a nationwide "awareness" program to stop recreational fishing, claiming that fishing was equivilent to putting a hook through a dogs mouth and dragging him down the street in your car. I got a good laugh from Govenor Tim Palenty's response to their letter (MN):

"PETA should stay out of Minnesota's proud fishing lifestyle. Because of their letter, I'm going out for a walleye dinner tonight."



In many cases, their is plenty of abuse involved with milking dairy cows.
Overcrowding, living in filth, being force fed disgusting food laced with antibiotics and hormones, being artificially inseminated in order to produce milk while their baby is ripped out of them and usually taken to another factory to be used as veal (this involved tying the calf up in a small, dark box where it has no room at all to move, to even turn around, so that the meat on it's bones stays tender. It's horrible.)
You should stop drinking milk for health reasons anyway. It's just no good for the human body as it is completely un-natural.

1) They graze in wide open, well vegitated pastures. As well as grazing on wild alfalfa and praire grass, they are also fed corn silage and hay. Don't know what is so cramped about their living quarters, or disgusting about their diets.

2) As far as veal goes, about 60% of ALL veal produced in the US is produced on Hutterite and Amish farms (the same farm systems that many animal rights activists say they support as opposed to large "factory" farms.) Nearly all large veals farms have switched from the century old crate method, to group pens.

3) Besides the calcium and vitamin D you ingest from drinking milk, scientific studies have proven that regular milk drinkers have lower heart disease death rates than non-milk drinkers. Milk also contains vitamins and minerals vital to our health such as Protein, Vitamin A, Potassium, Phosphorus, Niacin, and Riboflavin.

Simple fact: there are two sides to every story. Don't believe all the propoganda (and believe me it is) being put out by all these animal activist groups. If you truely don't want to eat meat or any animal product, fine by me, but don't try to shove your lifestyle on me or anyone else. Nothing annoys me more than going to a ballgame, ordering a hotdog, and having some kid with his head shaved, his nose pierced, and wearing a wardrobe straight from the worlds scummiest thrift shop let out a huge digusting grunt and ask me if I want to know what is in that hotdog, or how they treat the cattle. Keep it to yourself unless asked for.




(Example) Testing drugs intended for humans on mice is not going to prove anything. How the hell is a mouse's body similiar to mine at all?
If you're going to take the drug, test it on yourself... or develope better laboratory practices; a way we can study drug effects without the use of any type of "lab rat", cruelty-free. Animal testing does nothing.

Another thing that I will never understand about animal rights activists is their apparent position that a human life is less than that of an animal.

I really hope that PETA and all its supports really get what is coming to them, and people will realize just how wacked out some of these people are. As far as the game goes, a cheap piece of propaganda once again targeted at America's youth.

[shoes23]

Just a quick note, attempting to lessen the discomfort of factory animals being raised as food isn't as ridiculous as it sounds. First, there's the simple humane argument that says we should lessen the suffering of any living thing because it's a virtue in its own. Not a terribly bad argument, nor is it one that only tree-huggin' soy eating vegans can subscribe to. I'm not vegetarian and I find KFC practices pretty vile. And there's significant differences in the behaviour of free range chickens and chickens that are kep in "hen houses".

Also, there's legitimate cost concerns in terms of business. I don't know how it applies to chickens, but beef farmers have recently been employing more humane methods of slaughtering cattle. One is a curved track that cows walk along before entering a meat grinder, so the cows actually can't see what they're walking into. It sounds silly but a) animals can feel emotion (its documented - look it up) and b) there's a tendency among cows using conventional slaughtering techniques to panic and try to escape. And you can imagine what a dozen or so cows all falling over each other will do. Not only is pretty messy, but can cost farmers significantly in losses.

I imagine that mistreatment of poultry results in a similar loss ratio that can be reduced by upgrading their techniques. It's a perfectly legitimate argument.


You're Trying to tell me that cows walk right in the grinder? Right.... Sure they do. Straight into the grinder. Bones and eyeballs and all.

The real method they use is much more humane. They line them up in a cattle chute, which happens to be just wide enough for a cow to fit in yet not allow them to turn around. They then bring them one by one out on the kill floor, where they proceed to shoot a thin metal rod through their skull into their brain killing them instantly. Sounds kinda fun, maybe someone should make a game about cow slaughtering, I mean any game that has a zone called the kill floor, and involves such weapons as giant meat grinders and electrical prods usually already has my preorder money.

[briskbc]

I'll tell you what.

Chickens are dumb. Chickens are also used to cramped conditions, as they've been living in them since we domesticated the fuckers. Ever see a hen house?


After reading this I automatically tried to imagine a time when chickens were wild. Roaming the plains of North America, darting through the jungles of Africa or burrowing in the deserts of Asia. Either way a chicken would have been the pretty close to the bottom of the food chain and probably the land based equivalent of plankton to every predator in a given region.

I can't argue that chickens have a crappy life though. Sucks to be a chicken.

[Aswald]

FACEPALM dude.
Broiler chickens lead the shittiest lives ever.
Read up on it. KFC refuses to change their disgusting practices of getting a chicken from the slaughterhouse to your plate.
Saying "they're already dead so let's eat them" is completely missing the point.

Anyway, you don't have to be pro-PETA to be against this horrible mistreatment of animals. I'm a vegan and I (usually) can't stand PETA. I really don't think pulling the most outrageous stunts ever is good for garnering the RIGHT kind of attention the animal rights movement needs...

-GoTaS


You'd think after the dangerous health problems caused by modern factory farming, people would be against it for their own sakes, even if they don't give a damn about the miserable conditions of the animals in question. It was only a matter of time before it would come back to haunt the human population, and it is happening now. Look at the e.coli breakouts, and mad cow, caused by feeding cows animal protein. Just because it's cheaper.

[FantasiaWHT]

Yeeeep, people would rather eat cheap than eat healthy. There's a shocker.

[captain nintendo]

Holy crap this thread is funny.

[MachineGex]

You would think with all the time and money KFC is saving, they would have come up with a way to make the chicken taste good. But nooooooo, they serve undersized overdrowned grease. Nothing like a meal where the grease ways more than the actual food....yummy!

[Jorpho]

All this talk makes me want some of that yummy KFC gravy.

While we're on the subject, what do you do with leftover KFC gravy? I never actually use it on the chicken, and there's way too much for the fries alone. I'm scared about what might happen if I leave it in the fridge for too long.

(Clearly, Greenpeace needs to be alerted to this copious waste.)

[Cryomancer]

So has anyone actually send this info in to nintendo/kfc? there could be great laughs to be had if it went to court.

[PentiumMMX]

So has anyone actually send this info in to nintendo/kfc? there could be great laughs to be had if it went to court.

Not sure...

Anyway, this topic makes me want to eat some chicken for lunch later...

[Sanriostar]

After reading this I automatically tried to imagine a time when chickens were wild. Roaming the plains of North America, darting through the jungles of Africa or burrowing in the deserts of Asia. Either way a chicken would have been the pretty close to the bottom of the food chain and probably the land based equivalent of plankton to every predator in a given region.

I can't argue that chickens have a crappy life though. Sucks to be a chicken.

Chickens were first domesticated around 200 BC in the southern area of China, next to Vietnam and Thailand.

As for the intelligence of the bird, I've helped slaughter Chickens once, and they do some incredibly dumb things; same with Turkeys. I don't feel any guilt chewing down on these birds.

[Wolfrider31]

You're Trying to tell me that cows walk right in the grinder? Right.... Sure they do. Straight into the grinder. Bones and eyeballs and all.

No. No, I wasn't.