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Starwander
09-24-2007, 04:31 PM
Voided

RevQuixo
09-24-2007, 04:37 PM
I find the idea of this to be antithetical to game collecting. I would not want to pay an inflated price for a game with a reproduction label...and would consider it to be a fraud. I would, however, think that having a label that designated said label as a reproduction as being okay.

XxHennersXx
09-24-2007, 04:45 PM
I have been considering the idea of making and selling replacement game labels for NES games for some time and have finally started down the road to do it. I was wondering as a whole what the collecting community thinks about such an idea. Basically the replacement labels would be identical to the original labels on the games themselves. They would be of the same quality as well, as they would be indistinguishable to the originals. All you would have to do is simply remove the old label and stick on the new one and basically you have a new, minty looking game. I was thinking of charging about $1.50-$2.00 for a replacement label. Overall I like the idea of being able to take those old games with damaged labels and being able to restore them to new condition, though I wanted to know what other people thought about the idea and if this is something you might buy. I would only be starting with NES, but could do other games down the road if it working out.

it's a good idea, reprolabels.com does reproduction labels for transformer toys...

neogamer
09-24-2007, 04:56 PM
Keep in mind that if video game collecting ever goes mainstream (which I believe it will within 5-10 years) and third party grading companies enter the picture, using any type of replacement label, etc. will be considered a form of restoration!

A lot of comic book collectors found this out the hard way when CGC (Comics Guaranty Corp.) entered the picture back in 2000 and started grading comic books. Everyone laughed when they started to encapsulate comic books in plastic. I however can tell you I was happy when I sold my comic book collection for $50,000 because the value of near mint unrestored CGC comics went through the roof. Restoration kills value. So if you are a collector of anything, you do it at your own risk.

I know that some of you reading this are laughing and thinking that the idea of grading video games is stupid, but a lot of collectors said that about toys, action figures (both loose and carded), sports cards, comic books, and coins.

This is just a word of caution. By all means if you just want the game for your own use pursue it.

The more I look at CD games, the more experience I have in seeing whether or not they were "buffed" or "resurfaced". The ones that were, I tend to look at like a red headed step child. I hate to say that, but to me it has to be MINT and NATURAL.

Just my opinion...keep that in mind!

Gentlegamer
09-24-2007, 05:04 PM
I would be interested in this, and not just for NES games. I'm a gamer-collector, meaning I collect to play, not just for collecting itself, so replica labels doesn't bother me. That said, perhaps you should consider putting a small "watermark" that IDs your labels as replicas so hardcore collectors will be accepting.

Kitsune Sniper
09-24-2007, 05:19 PM
There's already replacement shells for console systems. Why not go a step further? I'd like replacement labels if they were marked as such. You should see the condition of a Tecmo Super Bowl I sold recently...

Frankie_Says_Relax
09-24-2007, 05:33 PM
Replacement labels would be nice ... however, being able to completely and totally cleanly remove an official label from an NES cartridge is quite the task.

If you're going to make replacement labels, you should come up with a guaranteed technique and product (something like goo-gone, which is pretty hit-or miss if you ask me) to get the cartridge casing down to the smooth gray plastic (no sticker glue residue/label chunklets) ... or else a replacement label will be practically useless.

kentuckyfried
09-24-2007, 05:47 PM
The Kentuckyfried Process:

Lighter fluid is the key to removing stickers from plastic, you can thank me when you discover the brilliance for yourself ;)

cheshire191
09-24-2007, 05:48 PM
not to through a wrench in, but how would you get the licensing to repo the label??

rbudrick
09-24-2007, 05:56 PM
I say only make them for R10 games.

Kidding, just stirring trouble here.

But seriously, I do think that a repro label does reduce value. To make them indistinguishable would be tough. Ask any pirater out there. ;) However, if you did indeed make them indistinguishable, I'm scared for collectors in a way. At the same time, I feel for the people with messed up labels. My thoughts? Only make them for commons...no wait, that kind of defeats the purpose, since they can always buy another common, and who wants to restore a common? I dunno, mixed feelings, I guess. It seems folks would only wanna do this for rare games with messed up labels.

However, if you made the labels more like collectors cards instead, those would be a very cool collectible if you wrote some data about the game on back and maybe put DP ratings on them (with DP permission, of course).

-Rob

Nescollector
09-24-2007, 05:59 PM
I think it's an amazing Idea. I've always wished someone (like Nintendo) would offer new boxes, and manuals for every Nes games made. I think they would sell pretty good.

I agree, they would have to be perfect reproductions of the originals.

savageone
09-24-2007, 06:12 PM
I do like the idea. However like others have said the quality of the label needs to be REALLY good and there should be some kind of symbol in a corner of the labels front artwork so a repro label could easily be spotted in auction pictures and what not.

Little Samson
09-24-2007, 06:42 PM
I do like the idea. However like others have said the quality of the label needs to be REALLY good and there should be some kind of symbol in a corner of the labels front artwork so a repro label could easily be spotted in auction pictures and what not.

I agree 100%.

Blitzwing256
09-24-2007, 09:01 PM
Anything to keep the values of games low I'm all for, but honestly? I think it would be fun to make NEW labels for classic games, as we all know alot of games had questionalbe box art (yeah megaman..i'm fucking looking at you..what the hell?) just think of all the creative ideas people could come up with for replacement labels? everything from just resizing the japanese art to coming up with totally new ideas. That i'd lay some cash down for, team that up with the clear tinted game cases another site is selling, would add some fun back to the hobby for those of us who have everything we want.

neogamer
09-24-2007, 09:04 PM
I doubt you could find a way to make them to the point where you could not tell the difference between originals and fakes...

Gentlegamer
09-24-2007, 09:23 PM
Anything to keep the values of games low I'm all for, but honestly? I think it would be fun to make NEW labels for classic games, as we all know alot of games had questionalbe box art (yeah megaman..i'm fucking looking at you..what the hell?) just think of all the creative ideas people could come up with for replacement labels? everything from just resizing the japanese art to coming up with totally new ideas. That i'd lay some cash down for, team that up with the clear tinted game cases another site is selling, would add some fun back to the hobby for those of us who have everything we want.
This is a great idea, too! This is the kind of thing they like over at www.thecoverproject.net (custom covers, etc.).

snes_collector
09-24-2007, 10:25 PM
You defanatly need to mark them in a way so you can tell it's not the original label

zektor
09-24-2007, 11:44 PM
The Kentuckyfried Process:

Lighter fluid is the key to removing stickers from plastic, you can thank me when you discover the brilliance for yourself ;)

Been doing that for years. I actually learned this technique from removing shelf labels at Rite Aid (one of my first retail jobs)...hah!

DeputyMoniker
09-24-2007, 11:56 PM
perhaps you should consider putting a small "watermark" that IDs your labels as replicas so hardcore collectors will be accepting.

Agreed. Don't be "one of those guys."
There has to be something on the cart that identifies it as a repro. That being said, make sure it's something someone who isn't really into collecting wouldn't notice. Fibbing to a friend should be possible. "I have one of those mint. Follow me, I'll show you."

MarioMania
09-25-2007, 12:52 AM
Can you do SNES Labels, I have some with Bad or No Labels

Blitzwing256
09-25-2007, 01:07 AM
yeah ,I have a bunch of these wierd carts with stupid typed labels that say "property of nintendo please return" and like these holes with chips sticking out, i'd love to get some new labels for those.

Icarus Moonsight
09-25-2007, 03:24 AM
yeah ,I have a bunch of these wierd carts with stupid typed labels that say "property of nintendo please return" and like these holes with chips sticking out, i'd love to get some new labels for those.

LMAO thanks blitz... I needed that! :)

As long as you repro label everything Bio Force Ape with a big red-rubber-stamp "PROTOTYPE" over the rest of the label everything should be hunky dory. ;)

*poppin in an eBay "find" that just arrived* Wow guys, look! Bio Force Ape is just a SMB/DH clone. They didn't hack it or anything. Lazy bastards.

Seriously, I'd omit the Nintendo Seal of Quality at the least. The crap label art on some games (Mega Man comes to mind) could be changed too. If you're going to re-label it, might as well do it right or at least better.

Oobgarm
09-25-2007, 08:31 AM
I'm all for it. But i think that if you go ahead with the project, in addition to a small asterisk or otherwise noticable difference, there should be a 'checkpoint' of sorts.

If a person wants a copy of a label for a high-profile cart, like Stadium Events or another sought-after game, they need to request the label, and you need to provide them with some kind of unique identifier. Open the dictionary and pick a random word. The buyer would then have to write that word on a piece of paper, and take a photo of it with the cart they want to replace the label on. That would cut down on the number of assholes trying to profit off your service, not to mention trying to rip off unsuspecting people.

You could also limit each person to one label per title, and track it in a database or spreadsheet.

I'd really like to see this come to fruitition.

Vectorman0
09-25-2007, 10:35 AM
I'm not trying to be an asshole, but I think it's a terrible idea that shouldn't come to be. I don't mind people that do it for themselves and keep track of what is original and what isn't. But anything more than for yourself I have a problem with.

First off, you would be doing this service and making some (even if nominal) profit off of Nintendo's property. I'm pretty sure that's illegal. Regardless, the main problem I have is that it is really just trash you are pasting on your cartridge, tainting the cart with something that shouldn't be there. (RevQuixo said it best in his post). I see it the same as someone losing their Halo game disc and replacing it with a DVD-R backup.

The last thing I want is to have to watch out for and worry about buying games with reproduction labels.

Something I wouldn't mind however, would be completely original labels using new art that didn't resemble the original label, with "reproduction label" in decent sized letters on the label.

TheRedEye
09-25-2007, 11:29 AM
I have been considering the idea of making and selling replacement game labels for NES games for some time and have finally started down the road to do it. I was wondering as a whole what the collecting community thinks about such an idea. Basically the replacement labels would be identical to the original labels on the games themselves. They would be of the same quality as well, as they would be indistinguishable to the originals. All you would have to do is simply remove the old label and stick on the new one and basically you have a new, minty looking game. I was thinking of charging about $1.50-$2.00 for a replacement label. Overall I like the idea of being able to take those old games with damaged labels and being able to restore them to new condition, though I wanted to know what other people thought about the idea and if this is something you might buy. I would only be starting with NES, but could do other games down the road if it working out.

I have my doubts, have you done even one test run yet? Are you using a professional printing facility or your home printer? Are you able to accurately cut the rounded corners? How are you applying the plastic "film" over the labels themselves?

neogamer
09-25-2007, 12:51 PM
I'm not trying to be an asshole, but I think it's a terrible idea that shouldn't come to be. I don't mind people that do it for themselves and keep track of what is original and what isn't. But anything more than for yourself I have a problem with.

First off, you would be doing this service and making some (even if nominal) profit off of Nintendo's property. I'm pretty sure that's illegal. Regardless, the main problem I have is that it is really just trash you are pasting on your cartridge, tainting the cart with something that shouldn't be there. (RevQuixo said it best in his post). I see it the same as someone losing their Halo game disc and replacing it with a DVD-R backup.

The last thing I want is to have to watch out for and worry about buying games with reproduction labels.

Something I wouldn't mind however, would be completely original labels using new art that didn't resemble the original label, with "reproduction label" in decent sized letters on the label.

Again, I doubt he would be able to make a label that would be exactly identical to the original. Any collector would probably be able to tell the difference.

Collectors have been making "reproduced" Intellivision and Jaguar overlays for years. I consider those to be a form of restoration as well. I have never seen one, so I don't know if they are marked as reproductions or not...?

Anyone know?

Starwander
09-25-2007, 01:03 PM
It seems as though the gaming community as a whole is pretty split over this issue. Though there seems to be some core issues that I should address

I have my doubts, have you done even one test run yet? Are you using a professional printing facility or your home printer? Are you able to accurately cut the rounded corners? How are you applying the plastic "film" over the labels themselves?
To the best of my ability they will be the same, this being said I am having the label artwork professionally digitized and set up for printing. The labels are being custom cut be a professional company down to the mm and yes they have the rounded edges. Plus I plan on using a 4800dpi professional label printer, which companies use to print labels for store products. Although I don’t have a sample, it should look the same, but I can’t say for sure yet.

I'm all for it. But i think that if you go ahead with the project, in addition to a small asterisk or otherwise noticeable difference, there should be a 'checkpoint' of sorts.
If a person wants a copy of a label for a high-profile cart, like Stadium Events or another sought-after game, they need to request the label, and you need to provide them with some kind of unique identifier. Open the dictionary and pick a random word. The buyer would then have to write that word on a piece of paper, and take a photo of it with the cart they want to replace the label on. That would cut down on the number of assholes trying to profit off your service, not to mention trying to rip off unsuspecting people.
You could also limit each person to one label per title, and track it in a database or spreadsheet.
I'd really like to see this come to fruitation.
It seems that most people are against this idea because of this issue. I wouldn’t be making any reproduction labels for any high valued games. At most I would be targeting games like SMB3 and such, which have both enough value to justify the expensive of a new label, though wouldn’t really damage the market as a whole since they are not high value items.

LMAO thanks blitz... I needed that! :)
As long as you repro label everything Bio Force Ape with a big red-rubber-stamp "PROTOTYPE" over the rest of the label everything should be hunky dory. ;)
*poppin in an eBay "find" that just arrived* Wow guys, look! Bio Force Ape is just a SMB/DH clone. They didn't hack it or anything. Lazy bastards.
Seriously, I'd omit the Nintendo Seal of Quality at the least. The crap label art on some games (Mega Man comes to mind) could be changed too. If you're going to re-label it, might as well do it right or at least better.
I absolutely would not make any type of labels that misrepresented a product such as a prototype label.

Can you do SNES Labels, I have some with Bad or No Labels
Yes this is possible in the future.

So this leaves a couple of unanswered questions and positions. I am hesitant to put any type of mention of reproduction on the labels since, although this would be in line with the hard core collectors. The majority of people who play and collect games might be put off by this. I do like the idea of admitting certain features like the Nintendo Seal or what not as a way of identifying these labels.

I also like the idea of custom artwork and would be happy to work with anyone with this. I am neither an artist nor a professional designer so this is outside of my league, but if somebody would like to collaborate with me on making custom labels I would be happy to work with them. I think it would be outstanding to give collectors an opportunity to come up with some original artwork for NES games.

I think to start off and to avoid this whole reproduction issue my first label will be far different than the original label. It will be for SMB3. This being said perhaps I can work out a system that can work towards both sides of the argument.

Little Samson
09-25-2007, 02:12 PM
I think to start off and to avoid this whole reproduction issue my first label will be far different than the original label. It will be for SMB3. This being said perhaps I can work out a system that can work towards both sides of the argument.

If so, I might suggest putting Tanooki Mario on the label instead of Racoon Mario. It'd still be an iconic graphic for the game, but it would be easily distinguishable. Besides, Tanooki Mario's the best suit! (not counting Kuribo's shoe)

Promophile
09-25-2007, 02:39 PM
You may want to look into the legality of what you're doing. Nintendo still owns the copyrights for most NES/SNES games, as well as the trademark of the "Official Nintendo Seal".

Nescollector
09-25-2007, 06:08 PM
I have my doubts, have you done even one test run yet? Are you using a professional printing facility or your home printer? Are you able to accurately cut the rounded corners? How are you applying the plastic "film" over the labels themselves?

Good questions. The ultimate would be to have the (original printing company, or have access to original die's?, or whatever means that they used to make them in the first place)

TheDomesticInstitution
09-25-2007, 09:47 PM
I have a few games that I plan on keeping, which have bad labels that I would love to replace. I personally don't like getting rid of games because they have bad labels. Well, I'm in for at least 3 or so if you ever get this off the ground. Good Luck.

PingvinBlueJeans
09-25-2007, 10:56 PM
I think it's an amazing Idea. I've always wished someone (like Nintendo) would offer new boxes, and manuals for every Nes games made. I think they would sell pretty good.

I agree, they would have to be perfect reproductions of the originals.
That is not feasible or desirable...and it would pretty much kill NES collecting as a hobby. There's a reason people pay money for CIB games.

Nintendo did offer new replacement NES manuals for years until their supply ran out...just like R.O.B. parts and everything else. They ran out and that's it.


It seems as though the gaming community as a whole is pretty split over this issue.Yeah...anybody who has any decent amount of money invested in their collection is going to be against it, and anyone who doesn't will likely be for it.



Good questions. The ultimate would be to have the (original printing company, or have access to original die's?, or whatever means that they used to make them in the first place)
Right...if you could even manage to find out who printed the labels in the first place, do you really think the printing company wouldn't alert Nintendo to what you were doing?

In any event, whether collectors are against this or not, I really can't see any way that printing high quality repro labels would be cost-effective...if you need one so bad, just buy a better cart.

zikuta
09-26-2007, 05:09 AM
NOOOOOO!!!
NOOOOOO!!!
NOOOOOO!!!

Are you crazy or what!!! Say NO to repro labels, box or instruction booklets!!!

WE ARE COLLECTORS. I don't love the label I LOVE ORIGINAL LABELS from 90s.

Icarus Moonsight
09-26-2007, 06:26 AM
:duh: Not really, but you get the point. :p

GarrettCRW
09-26-2007, 07:24 AM
Restoration kills value.

If you collect anything-stamps, baseball cards, even video games-solely for the monetary value, you are an asshat.

Speaking as someone who has a small stable of animation cels (all from He-Man and She-Ra, mind you, but it's a start), I consider restorations to be valuable when performed by a knowledgeable individual. The animation art and general art communities see restoration as a positive thing, as does the film community.

For video games, restoration applies largely to the media itself, since the data has been largely (and notoriously) preserved for all time on the Internet. Labels, contacts, the surfaces of discs....these all should be preserved first, and restored second in the event that they've been damaged. If you're more concerned about the value of your damn collection than preserving the games themselves, then I pity you.

neogamer
09-26-2007, 09:08 AM
If you collect anything-stamps, baseball cards, even video games-solely for the monetary value, you are an asshat.

Speaking as someone who has a small stable of animation cels (all from He-Man and She-Ra, mind you, but it's a start), I consider restorations to be valuable when performed by a knowledgeable individual. The animation art and general art communities see restoration as a positive thing, as does the film community.

For video games, restoration applies largely to the media itself, since the data has been largely (and notoriously) preserved for all time on the Internet. Labels, contacts, the surfaces of discs....these all should be preserved first, and restored second in the event that they've been damaged. If you're more concerned about the value of your damn collection than preserving the games themselves, then I pity you.

You might want to research how the comic book community views restoration, as that was my original example, not any other form of "art". Comic book collectors have been "burned" by collecting "restored" books by uncanny dealers selling them as "unrestored". The value is lower for restored books, as is demand.

As for value, yes, as a collector, I care about the value of my collection! I don't know how you collect(?) If you buy games just to be able to play them, than you are less likely to equate value to your collection. However, when I pay $100+ for Radiant Silvergun, I do expect it to keep some (not always all) of its value. I would also expect that a lot of the people on these forums feel the same way, so you must have a lot of pity ready to go around!

You are aware you are on a site that sells collectors guides for video games. Value and condition have been hotbeds for debate on this subject matter and I do understand that. The same thing happend with stamps, toys, coins, and yes, comic books!

Any thoughts? Does anyone else care about the value of what they collect? If you don't let me know. If this "thread" goes into another direction, I will gladly start a new "thread" on the subject!

Oobgarm
09-26-2007, 10:52 AM
It seems that most people are against this idea because of this issue. I wouldn’t be making any reproduction labels for any high valued games. At most I would be targeting games like SMB3 and such, which have both enough value to justify the expensive of a new label, though wouldn’t really damage the market as a whole since they are not high value items.

Then, honestly, you're wasting your time. People, especially those who are very concerned about the condition of their items, are (more often than not) able to secure another copy for close to what you'd be asking for a new label.

Besides, you could take out the Nintendo seal of quality and replace it with something, a dead giveaway for a repro.

Also, would you be running 4-color process on these labels? Without it, they're not going to look all that great(coming from someone who works with printing every day).

Japan-Games.com
09-26-2007, 11:34 AM
Well I think the market is telling you that it's not a good idea. If people will only accept it with a watermark or some kind of distinguishing characteristic then you've defeated the purpose of the new label. What they're saying is that yes they wouldn't mind a new label, but no you can't make it exactly like the original. Then you're stuck making labels that are similar to the original and I think that's where some people might lose interest in an impulse purchase.

BUT....you could do good business with retro game shops, maybe. Just something to throw on average titles to make them look better. Or maybe people will buy the stickers to collect.

neogamer
09-26-2007, 11:47 AM
Then, honestly, you're wasting your time. People, especially those who are very concerned about the condition of their items, are (more often than not) able to secure another copy for close to what you'd be asking for a new label.

Besides, you could take out the Nintendo seal of quality and replace it with something, a dead giveaway for a repro.

Also, would you be running 4-color process on these labels? Without it, they're not going to look all that great(coming from someone who works with printing every day).

Again, I have to ask:

Would he even be able to make labels that exactly resemble the originals? I highly doubt this is possible. Maybe you can answer this question, please?

If I find a game with a "reproduced" label on it, I know I would not even consider buying it. That's just my opinion...keep in mind I am fully active and aware of how third party grading and resto practices started in other areas and it started out a lot like this...

In coins it was cleaning: "Hey, I can clean this and get a lot more for it!"

In comics it was "pressing" and "restoration" that any trained eye can see (except for pressing, which can be hard to detect - thank you CGC)

Both these things effect value, when that happens, debates start...

I'm sorry, but part of collecting anthing has to do with money, like it or not. I think this (replacement labels of any kind) is a bad idea on all fronts and will pave the way for "connies" and the like to attempt to sell MINT copies of rare games on ebay...that is assuming you can make the labels (and would want to) exactly like the original!

Gentlegamer
09-26-2007, 12:30 PM
I'd be fine with exact reproductions because I'm a gaming collector (collect to play), but I'm not so selfish as to disregard the view of other more "hardcore" collectors, so some kind of small distinguishing mark would also be fine to me.

Starwander
09-26-2007, 01:40 PM
I think I would like to table this discussion, since most hard core collectors seem to have agreed that the labels are a bad idea. Thank you everybody for your input it was appreciated.

Gentlegamer
09-26-2007, 01:43 PM
Get in touch with the folks over at www.thecoverproject.net . . . they would be interested in helping, I bet.

cheshire191
09-26-2007, 09:20 PM
once again I'll ask .. how do you plan on getting the licensing for the repo labels?

epeciallly if you plan on getting them to look good, you'll have to get the artwork from somewhere.

Icarus Moonsight
09-27-2007, 02:20 AM
Amateur restoration kills value. Professional restoration on the other hand, does not. Otherwise, why would museums even have a restoration/preservation department? It maybe apples/oranges to some, but for others it's a fine idea. Think about it and turn down the sensitivity a notch folks.

I have a dead Actraiser cart with a perfect label. I consider it junk compared to a working game with a peeled-of-by-a-screwdriver label. It's all perspective.

neogamer
09-27-2007, 08:50 AM
Amateur restoration kills value. Professional restoration on the other hand, does not. Otherwise, why would museums even have a restoration/preservation department? It maybe apples/oranges to some, but for others it's a fine idea. Think about it and turn down the sensitivity a notch folks.

I have a dead Actraiser cart with a perfect label. I consider it junk compared to a working game with a peeled-of-by-a-screwdriver label. It's all perspective.


Wrong again! You are not applying your findings to collectibles! If you would take a look at the comic book collectibles market for one second you would see what I mean!

Same is true in toys and action figures.

Do some research please...okay?

Then post! Google is your friend!

Museums are a little different. Those are one of a kind works of art, a.k.a. antiquities=more than 1,000 years old! Not apllicable to what we are discussing.

FantasiaWHT
09-27-2007, 10:48 AM
Starwander, are hardcore gamers your target market? If not, you shouldn't care if they won't buy your product.

I would think your target market would be a) resellers, who can get a better price for a shiny new label than one with scribblings all over it in permanent ink, and b) gamer-collectors, who also would be willing to pay a little bit of money to have a nicer-looking label.

Oobgarm
09-27-2007, 11:14 AM
Again, I have to ask:

Would he even be able to make labels that exactly resemble the originals? I highly doubt this is possible. Maybe you can answer this question, please?

Not unless he has original artwork for them, either electronic files or printing plates, broken down into the CMYK standard used when printing in full-color on an actual printing press. We're talking four individual images combined to create one full-color.

I work for a company that, given the correct label printing stock(plus extra gloss coating) and artwork, would have the ability to produce these labels, complete with rounded edges that could pass as 99% original. That kind of stuff is out of our particular scope, though.

It would be cost-prohibitive, however, thanks to the cost of the stock itself, time involved with setup and labor, not to mention minimum quantities of at least 50k per label. Granted, we are more set-up for large orders of forms, but I think that even a short-run printer would be WAY over any kind of feasible cost.

Then you're back to the amateur level, which is alright for personal use but not for wider distribution.

neogamer
09-27-2007, 12:37 PM
Not unless he has original artwork for them, either electronic files or printing plates, broken down into the CMYK standard used when printing in full-color on an actual printing press. We're talking four individual images combined to create one full-color.

I work for a company that, given the correct label printing stock(plus extra gloss coating) and artwork, would have the ability to produce these labels, complete with rounded edges that could pass as 99% original. That kind of stuff is out of our particular scope, though.

It would be cost-prohibitive, however, thanks to the cost of the stock itself, time involved with setup and labor, not to mention minimum quantities of at least 50k per label. Granted, we are more set-up for large orders of forms, but I think that even a short-run printer would be WAY over any kind of feasible cost.

Then you're back to the amateur level, which is alright for personal use but not for wider distribution.

Thank you! This was the answer I was originally looking for! I greatly appreciate the response from a knowledgable source.

Hopefully, the legal end of this issue will prevent this from happening (i.e. fake lables). I know Disney is over-protective of anyone reprinting any of their copyrights. Hopefully Nintendo has the same stance, as most companies do.


If it would only pass as 99% authentic, then a trained eye could spot it, that's what I am looking for!

"Restoration" in the collectibles market kills value...

and to answer the other question...I'm a hardcore collector, not a hardcore gamer! I don't have the time to be a hardcore gamer...LOL, I wish I did!

aaron7
09-27-2007, 12:44 PM
No. It ruins the authenticity of it. Would you buy new covers for your old comic books? New non-OEM sheetmetal for your vintage car?

That's my personal opinion.

Starwander
09-27-2007, 01:00 PM
Well just to restate I already understand this is a bad idea, so if you want to keep discussing it please go ahead, but any comments directed at me won’t be responded to. Since people have made their point very clear. I have deleted my original post.

neogamer
09-27-2007, 02:30 PM
Well just to restate I already understand this is a bad idea, so if you want to keep discussing it please go ahead, but any comments directed at me won’t be responded to. Since people have made their point very clear. I have deleted my original post.

Fair enough. Please understand I did not mean to offend you, but in other collecting fields, what you are trying or wanting to do is looked down upon and strongly discouraged.

In some cases, legal action has been taken to prevent it! Not only by individual copyright holders, but also collectors themselves. Some thoughts to consider, but thank you for asking for our opinions, as I am sure we all appreciate it.