View Full Version : any new consoles on the horizon?
wii, 360, ps3 are all old hat now, anyone know if there are any new consoles coming soon, maybe from some outsider?
otaku
10-06-2007, 07:19 PM
not likely and if they do they'll most likely suck and fail also this generation I think is set to be one of the longest if not the longest (which is fine with me) I'd like to see it go to 2012 or a bit further so I don't have to buy more hardware for awhile
7th lutz
10-06-2007, 07:56 PM
The 3 systems are not old in video game system years yet.
There will not be another home game console till 2010 or 2011 from the big 3.
From an outsider standpoint, It wouldn't make any sense at this time to release another system.
The 3 systems are established already some degree. There is not much of a difference in graphics and sound. I think there not much left to do for improving the graphics of a game console at this point.
I don't see a new Game console coming in from an outsider till 2009 at the earliest. The only non game console company that I can think of that might be willing to enter the game console market would be Apple, but I don't know if they have the money to yet. Apple has done wonders from a money stand point compare to 10 years ago when they were struggling.
Barbarianoutkast85
10-06-2007, 09:26 PM
Maybe Sega will make a come back... I miss you Sega...
Flack
10-06-2007, 09:32 PM
Tom's just pulling your leg, guys. He knows that videogame consoles in the past have run on five-year cycles, and that Sony and probably Microsoft plan on stretching consoles even further this time, probably out to somewhere between seven and nine years.
GhostDog
10-06-2007, 10:50 PM
Maybe Sega will make a come back... I miss you Sega...
They made a comeback from the grave. There's no way in hell they'll risk death again.
theoakwoody
10-07-2007, 01:06 AM
Great topic, I think someone else will enter the console market before this generation is over. No one could have predicted sony or microsoft would have jumped into the mix when they did so I wouldn't be surprised if we see some more new players.
Apple is the obvious company that has already been mentioned but they have never been a big gaming company. They never even went out of their way to get third parties to make their games compatible with their OS.
I'll go out on a limb and say that Dell will eventually try to go the way of an xbox and consolize a PC. It's a no brainer being able to easily port PC games over to your "console" that would give your system a ton of exclusives. I think that the xbox was a great idea but didn't take advantage of some of the better PC games that they could have ported over.
Sega and Atari will never come back and I hope they don't. I honestly don't see why anyone needs to make their own consoles except for Nintendo. I don't understand why Microsoft and Sony don't have the quality first party software that Nintendo does, especially now that Bungie is gone. Good luck having Fable 3 as the exclusive that carries your system.
spoon
10-07-2007, 01:12 AM
Phantom.....Believe!
I think the other's (Phantom and Apex system) got canceled?
j_factor
10-07-2007, 03:21 AM
It is interesting that, in the past, new consoles came out left and right, but now, we have a concept of very normalized "generations".
I don't think any new players will arrive anytime soon. Any company that might possibly expand into the game console business has probably decided not to bother, after looking at Sony's and Microsoft's fiscal reports. On the other hand, I think a new handheld contender is a distinct possibility, once DS and PSP start getting old.
DeputyMoniker
10-07-2007, 04:01 AM
wii, 360, ps3 are all old hat now, anyone know if there are any new consoles coming soon, maybe from some outsider?
I'm foaming at the mouth for some next-gen news. I guess this is as good a time as any to get that term going again. It's never too early.
Is anybody else excited to hear that Nintendo is planning to release their next gen console? They haven't announced a date yet but experts say it is, in fact, coming some day. Any next gen franchises you're looking forward to?
BydoEmpire
10-07-2007, 07:15 AM
Tom's just pulling your leg, guys. He knows that videogame consoles in the past have run on five-year cycles, and that Sony and probably Microsoft plan on stretching consoles even further this time, probably out to somewhere between seven and nine years.I wish that would be true, but I think in another 4-5 years or so we're going to see the new round of consoles.
I don't understand why Microsoft and Sony don't have the quality first party software that Nintendo does, especially now that Bungie is goneBecause they don't have 30 years of experience making great games.
vegi-saurus
10-07-2007, 10:14 AM
Maybe Sega will make a come back... I miss you Sega...
Of course...with the Dreamcast 2!
Steve W
10-07-2007, 05:55 PM
I just don't see an 'outsider' entering such a fiercely competitive market. Think about all the companies in the past few years trying to break into the handheld market, like the Zodiac, Gizmondo, or N-Gage. It's a much smaller segment of the overall industry and none of them could make a dent. The only companies that could possibly crack into the videogame business should have an absolute mountainload of cash to burn through, with the nightmarishly high budgets modern games are developed under. I can't see anyone attempting it.
whoisKeel
10-09-2007, 12:34 AM
The Google Console is going to rock!
zektor
10-09-2007, 12:52 AM
Maybe NEC will come out with a Super-Duper Grafx!
Anthony1
10-09-2007, 01:49 AM
The next major home console will likely be the High Def Wii 2, which will probably release in Xmas 2009 or 2010. I'm guessing that it's visuals will be just a tiny bit below what the 360 is capable of now, and it will be very low cost. I think the Wii will sell very well this year, and next year, but towards the end of 2008, I think the fad will die, and die hard. It will be like falling off a cliff. All of a sudden, people won't care anymore. I'm sure Nintendo is planning for this, and will be fully prepared when this happens. It's no big deal to them, cause they are making money by the boatload, while the fun lasts. When the party stops, then they come out with Wii HD. Xmas 2009 or Xmas 2010.
Microsoft will have their follow up to the 360 released in November 2011, in all likelyhood. Maybe Fall 2010, if they want to get a big head start again.
Sony will likely wait till at least 2012. That's the one advantage they have. It's hurting them in the short term, but their console is pretty damn future proof, and could survive for quite some time. Only way they hit the scenes prior to 2012, is if the PS3 burns in flames and dies out in a few years.
As for new competitors?
Well, here are a few possibilities:
Comcast
DirectTV
Samsung
Intel in collaboration with somebody else
Samsung is an interesting one, because they have this new 3D TV technology that they are working on. They could easily have a system designed specifically for that. I wouldn't consider it anykind of major threat to the other guys, it would just be kinda like a side thing. Like the Phillips CD-I was back in the days.
Emuaust
10-09-2007, 02:46 AM
The Google Console is going to rock!
LOL, well why not? It would be rather interesting.
YoshiM
10-09-2007, 03:10 PM
It is interesting that, in the past, new consoles came out left and right, but now, we have a concept of very normalized "generations".
I don't think any new players will arrive anytime soon. Any company that might possibly expand into the game console business has probably decided not to bother, after looking at Sony's and Microsoft's fiscal reports. On the other hand, I think a new handheld contender is a distinct possibility, once DS and PSP start getting old.
There's also the fact that retailers still have a decent supply of Xbox (okay, maybe not so much but they're out there), Gamecube, PS2 and GBA games/systems/accessories still on the shelves. If something new came out that didn't look like it'd be a smash hit, I don't think the big chains would get it.
PapaStu
10-09-2007, 03:49 PM
The Google Console is going to rock!
It'll never get out of the Beta form. :p
spoon
10-10-2007, 05:19 AM
Whatever happened to the rumored Microsoft hand held?
Slate
10-10-2007, 02:37 PM
Whatever happened to the rumored Microsoft hand held?
Whatever happened to that thing called the phantom?
PapaStu
10-10-2007, 04:19 PM
Whatever happened to the rumored Microsoft hand held?
It ended up being the Zune. All the rumors that were floating about at the time, was noise created by the impending iPod killer that has yet to really kill much of anything.
Whatever happened to that thing called the phantom?
It died, however the Keyboard/Mouse combo to be used in conjunction with the Phantom was suppose to be released sometime last year. That has yet to arrive either.
Flack
10-10-2007, 10:18 PM
The nice thing about a Google console would be its ability to tell you where all your games are at any given moment.
Not that anyone would use the feature, mind you.
bones11
10-11-2007, 05:44 PM
The nice thing about a Google console would be its ability to tell you where all your games are at any given moment.
Not that anyone would use the feature, mind you.
ROFL
Now to set the Google console loose in my game room...time to clean up!
Sweater Fish Deluxe
10-11-2007, 08:57 PM
I don't really have any desire to see another console from some major enternatinment or electronics corporation competing in the same market as the existing systems. Hell, I don't even care about the existing systems themselves.
What I'd absolutely love to see, though, is a new console system from a small company that aims itself at an entirely different market. I think there's a number of potential markets that could be interesting, but what I'd like to see most is something aimed at the homebrew market, similar to what the GP32 and GP2X have done--somewhat successfully--in the handheld market. A home console that's cheap and easy to develop and flexible at a hardware level, with good free open source dev tools would be a wonder to see. I think it would be better if it wasn't x86 based, since that would most likely lead to the sort of porting glut that the Xbox had, which I think tended to stifle original development.
Preferably this open development system would be coupled with very solid online capablities so that not only could games be played online in multiplayer and with leaderboards and such, but new games and apps would also be downloaded directly to the machine itself and who knows what other possibilites homebrew developers would see to exploit. I don't see any reason to have a CD drive in the system at all, in fact; just a hard drive and maybe an SD card slot or something. Maybe an external IDE connection for hardware hackers to play with. Bluetooth as well as wifi for compatibility with all those interesting devices, including the Wii controllers. I could go on, but you get the idea: a homebrewer's and hacker's wet dream.
I think something like this could be very successful within its niche. Not sure if it will ever happen, though.
...word is bondage...
RetroYoungen
10-11-2007, 10:21 PM
I just don't see an 'outsider' entering such a fiercely competitive market. Think about all the companies in the past few years trying to break into the handheld market, like the Zodiac, Gizmondo, or N-Gage. It's a much smaller segment of the overall industry and none of them could make a dent. The only companies that could possibly crack into the videogame business should have an absolute mountainload of cash to burn through, with the nightmarishly high budgets modern games are developed under. I can't see anyone attempting it.
That was the point I was ready to deliver. It just takes way too much capital to get that kind of project off the ground, and from an unknown company... there'd have to be a helluva round of games, exclusives, impressive newcomers and third-party companies bringing things to the table. Some companies could do SOMEthing if they had the drive though, like potentially Apple (good thing no one but a group like us would remember something like the Pippin), maybe Dell (from a hardware standpoint), maybe even a company like EA or Activision (from their software reputations, instant level of credibility).
I can't see any newcomers in the near future, though... at this point, I honestly can't see a significant enough improvement in graphics (which is, in my mind, the "step-forward" in a next-gen platform) to really even warrant a run at a home console. Hand-help platform... could be done. With the PSP and the DS running together (no matter who's leading, they're both still very much alive), and the rise of cell phone games, I could see a smaller company trying their hand at the portable market.
But maybe that's wishful thinking... I lovez me hand-held units. ^_^
I wish that would be true, but I think in another 4-5 years or so we're going to see the new round of consoles.
Because they don't have 30 years of experience making great games.
Bingo. I firmly believe only companies with 25+ years in gaming should release systems. Konami or CapCom entering the market would be nice. Sadly, they lack the funds, so we're more likely to see a Samsung (largest electronics manufacturer on Earth) or Apple system.
Rob2600
10-12-2007, 02:15 PM
I'm foaming at the mouth for some next-gen news. ... It's never too early.
Really? The Wii and PlayStation 3 were released less than a year ago. It's too early for me to start thinking about what consoles will be like five years from now.
Is anybody else excited to hear that Nintendo is planning to release their next gen console? They haven't announced a date yet but experts say it is, in fact, coming some day.
Of course a new Nintendo console is coming. Nintendo is always working on its next console. We don't need "experts" to tell us that.
cyberfluxor
10-12-2007, 06:20 PM
We should come up with the über-nxtgn DigitalPress console that'll blow everything away. How many hardware and software engineers are on here? How many are journalist, lawyers and accountants? I'm sure we have enough backing in the community where if a true effort were made we could make the ultimate. ;)
Iron Draggon
10-14-2007, 11:26 PM
what a trip... I just made a post in another thread that in part put my money on the possibility of a new console from Toshiba coming out sometime in the near future, despite their previous reluctance to enter the console market...
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107419&page=3
of course I don't think it's very likely to arrive anytime soon, but theoretically it could be released in time to be a fighter in the next generation of console battles, if Toshiba suddenly had a change of heart and decided to go for it...
what a trip... I just made a post in another thread that in part put my money on the possibility of a new console from Toshiba coming out sometime in the near future, despite their previous reluctance to enter the console market...
http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107419&page=3
of course I don't think it's very likely to arrive anytime soon, but theoretically it could be released in time to be a fighter in the next generation of console battles, if Toshiba suddenly had a change of heart and decided to go for it...
I dunno, they seem to be devoting all their money toward HD-DVD right now. The real question, will the next Nintendo (it won't be called "Wii 2", we come up with unique names unlike Sony) have HD-DVD? I think it would be smart. Had the Wii had it, the format war would already be over.