how much longer till GC, XBOX1, and PS2 go under classic?

[mailman187666]

I just was wondering when we will be speaking of these systems in the classic gaming forums. I could see PS2 still being modern because they are making games for it still. Isn't the xbox and GC considered dead now though? or do the systems have to be out for x amount of years till we start calling them classic systems.

[Wolfrider31]

I don't know what the cut off point is but I always consider two generations behind to be "classic".

[Rob2600]

I'd say probably another four or five years.

On a related note, I feel weird referring to consoles like the Nintendo 64 and the Dreamcast as classic. It seems as though they were just released yesterday. :(

[DigitalSpace]

Beyond a very small number of games, I don't even consider the PSX, N64, or Dreamcast to be "classic."

It's going to be a while.

[Vectorman0]

Regarding moving some post PS2 consoles back to the Classic Gaming Forum, I don't see that happening anytime soon, only because of the work it would involve sifting through topics. I could see a future generation down the road going into another forum to become the next Modern Gaming forum, with the current two forums being merged into one classic gaming forum. We will deal with that when the time comes.

And it doesn't have to be old to be classic! ;)

[cyberfluxor]

Classic isn't modern and modern is in current development. In my opinion Xbox and GameCube are leaning into the dead sector and slowly on their way to Classic. PS2 on the other hand is still going strong in retail and being produced for.

[Trebuken]

I think a third category is needed. Many members seem to think classic is synonymous with Atari 2600 and older it seems.

I think the PS2 has life in it still, but clearly the Xbox and Gamecube have moved on. The modern forum seems to be a place for discussing current, up and coming, and recently released titles, not library Xbox games - though it really does not seem to be a big deal.

Anywho I don't think they are old enough to hit classic so must remain in modern; there are not enough posts to warrant another forum.

[wufners]

Assuming classic is being used in the sense that it's from a bygone era, as opposed to classic in a timelss sense, I'd say it goes:

Current>Last generation>Old>Forgotten by the Mainstream>Classic

For me, the 16-bit era is the current cutoff for a classic system. And it's weird for me to think that the likes of the SNES and Genesis are in the same category as the Atari and Intellivision. The Nintendo64 and original Playstation currently reside in the old category, or at least are in the process of moving into that category. And anything Dreamcast through X-box I'd call last generation. It's all a subjective, of course and exceptions and "yeah but"s abound. But if it ain't 10+ years old and its graphics aren't tied to an era long past, then it probably ain't classic yet.

Of course, the original question is referring to where to draw the line in regards to which forum on Digital press is the appropriate place for discussion, not overall categorization. Which makes my post pointless, uncalled for, and quite lame.

So in that regard, I'd say the Dreamcast is the cutoff for the classic forum.

[SkiDragon]

I think the definition of what goes in the classic forum is different than what is actually "classic". I thought the classic forum was arbitrarily determined to be anything not "current" (For me, I barely even consider SNES as classic). I know at least Madden 08 recently came out for Gamecube, and maybe Xbox, but in another year or so they should probably go in the classic forum. Maybe a bit longer for PS2.

[diskoboy]

I usually give a system 2 generations before I call it a classic. For example - when MS comes out with the Xbox 3 (or whatever they wanna call it), The first Xbox will be considered a classic. Example: Xbox 3 (or 720) = next gen; Xbox 360 = current gen; Xbox = classic.

Unless the system was a flop. (Saturn and Dreamcast) For some reason, I classified those as classics the day they died.

[mailman187666]

yeah I guess that all makes sense. I was thinking of classic systems as not being sold retail and officially dead. I wasn't really thinking of years it has been out. I guess I can see all the points made here. Personally I probably would go with the notion that after "xbox 3" comes out, then xbox1 would be considered classic. I think in this case where xbox 360s games have very similar gameplay to original xbox games, it can kinda still be considered modern. If you were to compare xbox gameplay to NES gameplay, you could see where you would consider the NES to be classic.

[Knoxximus]

I usually give a system 2 generations before I call it a classic. For example - when MS comes out with the Xbox 3 (or whatever they wanna call it), The first Xbox will be considered a classic. Example: Xbox 3 (or 720) = next gen; Xbox 360 = current gen; Xbox = classic.

Unless the system was a flop. (Saturn and Dreamcast) For some reason, I classified those as classics the day they died.

Well, then I hope you've already got a spot ready for the PS3...LOL!

[TheDomesticInstitution]

By doing some very complex equations, I've been able to determine the following:

GC- 1 year, 9 months, and 12.56 Days
XBOX- 2 years, 1 month, and 3 days exactly
PS2- 4 days, 3 seconds, and 6 months.

[sabre2922]

I tend to think of a "classic" or near-classic console/game system as anything BEFORE the Sega Dreamcast.

Ive havent been a gamer quite as long as many others here as I started out with the Atari2600 as my first game console but I think that the introduction of the Sega Dreamcast really brought in a complete new era for home consoles in many ways: form the online elements to the far superior graphical and A.I jump when compared to the generation before it the 32-bit/64-bit gen.

I agree with others that pointed out that maybe the Xbox 1 and the Gamecube could be considered "neo-classic" or whatever after the current gen Wii/360/PS3 gen is over.

I also agree with the ones that stated that the Xbox1 and Gamecube belong in the -modern gaming section-but then again like someone else posted a "last gen" section might work great for the Xbox1 GC and PS2.

The same goes for the PS2 as its still the same gen as the XBox1 and the Gamecube its just had a longer lifespan and many more years of support from game developers/publishers and Im sure Sony will still be selling PS2s for at least the next couple years even after all the "shovelware" has lost steam.

Even though the PS2 is one of my top 3 favorite game systems after the SNES and Dreamcast the Playstation2 is on its last legs right now as far as the MAINSTREAM success its been able to maintain thus far as high profile devs and publishers like CAPCOM have announced that they no longer plan on supporting the PS2 at all. Very soon it will only be EA and a few other multiplatform 3rd party publishers supporting the PS2 and then comes the REAL shovelware of course like many consoles before it there will be the few gems released here and there but the PS2s true "shelf life" will be over by this time next year- probably.

[slapdash]

I know at least Madden 08 recently came out for Gamecube, and maybe Xbox [...]

I JUST saw Madden 08 for Gamecube, and I was surprised. Did it just come out, or has it really been out since Oct? Guess maybe I haven't been paying attention. Has anything else come out for Gamecube since that and Ratatouille?

And XBox... I don't think I've seen anything new in half a year, maybe more. Have there been any recent releases?

[Rogmeister]

I think Madden 08 for GameCube has been out as long as all the other versions. I think as long as stores like Wal-Mart are still selling games for a specific system, it can't be considered officially dead or classic. And I agree with many that just because a system may no longer be getting new games, it doesn't automatically move it into a "classic" status.

[DigitalSpace]

The Gamecube version of Madden 08 was released on August 14th with the other versions. TMK, there have been no other Gamecube releases since then.

[xmagxus]

Hardware wise i feel any SYSTEM prior to the dreamcast is technically a "classic" now (n64, ps one, saturn, etc)

On the other hand SOFTWARE wise I feel it is any GAME tha came out BEFORE the psone/n64/saturn era.

So from a personal perspective i view software and hardware differently in terms of what "classic" is

[8bitgamer]

As soon as Game Stop stops carrying it, it becomes a classic. :bigmac:

[Garry Silljo]

I was always told that something needs to be over 20 years old to be considered classic.