Anybody else think Assassin's Creed is going to be a huge dud?

[Poofta!]

On what system did it sell the most the PS3 or the xbox360, even know the PS3 has a Limited Edition Version

huh? the 360 has a LE too...

[MarioMania]

Really..well I'm not that in to new stuff

[Nesmaster]

"Joe, what are you doing in my house and why are you wearing a white hooded...AAARGH!"

Nah, it's murder if you see him do it. He'll have to sit on a bench or dive into a bale of hay until you turn your back. THEN he can assassinate you. :)

[Wolfrider31]

Okay, so I've spent a little more time with the game and I'm starting to warm up to it a bit. I've become used to the controls and now they're pretty much second nature (but honestly, a good control set up shouldn't have a learning curve in the first place) and now that I've figured out what was going wrong with the Damascus mission (turns out those viewpoints are needed to get the location of the bureau up on your map) so everything is running much more smoothly.

I'm actually having a blast with it, but I'm not prepared to agree with those over-hyped 9/10 scores. There are serious problems with repetition (mission types not only repeat themselves constantly, but lines of dialogue are repeated over and over again - and it gets old. FAST.)

Another thing that's bothering me is the fact that all the submissions you do have no relevance to the difficulty of them game. The vigilantes and hell even the stealth aspects just aren't needed. Which is fine, but it does make all the missions feel similar. I definitely agree with the reviews that said the game feels like your playing the same level over and over again. Granted, it's a damn fine level but variety is really what this game is lacking.

That isn't to say its bad, it's just kind of shallow. And definitely not a system seller. People who are really into action games and stealth games and who love the GTA sandbox style will probably like this (though the missions in GTA are far better). But I see just as many people getting frustrated the repetitive nature of the quests. I'll have to side with the 7/10s here. The game is solid, and does some things incredibly well, but it's only a buy if you've snagged everything else on your Christmas list.

[heybtbm]

I've put about 5 hours in so far. The haters need to let this one go. Assassin's Creed is excellent. A-list, 5-star, instant classic excellent. A must have for all open-world sandbox fans. This is another perfect example of what "next-gen" gaming was supposed to be about. It's a shame that a few people are going to be passing this one up. It's a rare occurrence to get a sandbox game this polished with stunning visuals.

The criticisms that I've read the past week are completely off base. I've never put that much credence into what game reviewers have to say, but it's obvious that several of them missed the mark with this one. I'd rate it 9.5 out of 10 easily.

[Sothy]

This game suffers from that Super Metroid BS where you get to see what your ultra powerfull character is like then early in the story you LOSE all your cool shit and have to earn it back.

This irks me.

But it is still great and once you get the counter attacks combat is really sweet and people walking by will stop and stand there watching you surrounded by 5 guards and just whup all their asses.

[Wolfrider31]

What are you all thinking about the bug issue? The White Screen of death on the PS3 and the framerate/lock up issues for both versions? I've actually had the framerate glitch happen to me a couple of times (I'm on a 360) and had to actually power down my console and restart it before it would go away. I've had a couple of lock ups too.

I've been reading around the forums and UbiSoft's stance is that none of these issues came up during beta testing. Bullshit. It seems to be happening with alarming frequency and even if the bugs weren't reproducible SOMEONE in their testing office found it, and they decided to ship it anyway. There's no way an entire team of testers would have missed an issue that seems to be happening to a solid third of customers.

And heybtbm, I really wish you'd stop assuming that people who disagree with you are "haters". There are legitimate reasons not to enjoy this game. I happen to like it (apparently not as much as you) but exercise a little more maturity/restraint than that.

[geneshifter]

What are you all thinking about the bug issue? The White Screen of death on the PS3 and the framerate/lock up issues for both versions? I've actually had the framerate glitch happen to me a couple of times (I'm on a 360) and had to actually power down my console and restart it before it would go away. I've had a couple of lock ups too.

I've been reading around the forums and UbiSoft's stance is that none of these issues came up during beta testing. Bullshit. It seems to be happening with alarming frequency and even if the bugs weren't reproducible SOMEONE in their testing office found it, and they decided to ship it anyway. There's no way an entire team of testers would have missed an issue that seems to be happening to a solid third of customers.

And heybtbm, I really wish you'd stop assuming that people who disagree with you are "haters". There are legitimate reasons not to enjoy this game. I happen to like it (apparently not as much as you) but exercise a little more maturity/restraint than that.

Wow, never had this problem. How far into the game were you when this happened?

[Wolfrider31]

I was in Jeruselum the first time I experienced the framerate glitch. Everything got really choppy. At first I just thought it was the 360 having trouble animating a bunch of characters at once so I moved into the Assassin's bureau hoping that would clear things up but it didn't. Even when I was the only thing on screen. When I walked in and the scene in the bureau started up it took forever for certain things to happen; like when he hands you the cloth, it took a solid 30 seconds for that bit of animation to load. So I had to turn off the 360 and it was fine after that.

I've had a couple of lock ups/disc read errors mostly in the field area between the cities. But I'm not sure if that has anything to do with the game or my 360. I checked the disc and it was clean. So *shrugs*

[j_factor]

When did 7.something become a "bad review"?

[Wolfrider31]

When did 7.something become a "bad review"?

I think it started when people began bitching at that one EGM reviewer that dared to give Chrono Cross ONLY a 9.5.

[geneshifter]

I was in Jeruselum the first time I experienced the framerate glitch. Everything got really choppy. At first I just thought it was the 360 having trouble animating a bunch of characters at once so I moved into the Assassin's bureau hoping that would clear things up but it didn't. Even when I was the only thing on screen. When I walked in and the scene in the bureau started up it took forever for certain things to happen; like when he hands you the cloth, it took a solid 30 seconds for that bit of animation to load. So I had to turn off the 360 and it was fine after that.

I've had a couple of lock ups/disc read errors mostly in the field area between the cities. But I'm not sure if that has anything to do with the game or my 360. I checked the disc and it was clean. So *shrugs*

You may want to try clearing your disk cache. I've been all over Jerusalem and I'm on my way to Damascus and I have never had this problem.

[SaturnFan]

and the question remains again....which version do I buy PS3 or 360?

[geneshifter]

and the question remains again....which version do I buy PS3 or 360?

I have it for 360 and love it. I have not had any problems with this game. Runs smooth. I have heard on forums that the PS3 version has a slightly better framerate but that's about the end of the differences. This is one of those rare games that plays about the same on both platforms so it's up to you.

[digitalpress]

and the question remains again....which version do I buy PS3 or 360?

It's like Call of Duty 4 (when comparing between systems). It seems that everything was built from scratch to be optimized on that particular system, as opposed to ported over from one or the other. That's the way it should be. As such, you may see slight differences in graphics but nothing that would affect the gameplay, seemingly identical in both versions.

Bottom line: get whichever one is cheaper < used < available.

[Anthony1]

I haven't had the chance to play this game yet, I plan on renting it next week, but I just have one question about it that I was hoping somebody could answer. Earlier in this thead I said this:



I'm also hoping against hope that the combat isn't all going to be a "Fight this guy cause he's highlighted, now fight this guy cause he's highlighted, now fight that guy cause he's highlighted. Fuck that. If they do that, they can kiss my ass. Like in real battle when you're fighting 7 guys, 6 of them are going to stand around and watch, and they are all going to take turns, and you only get to fight the one that looks like they have some Matrix like computer highlighting around them. I pray that what I saw at the e3 demo was a very, very, small and insignificant part of the combat. If the whole combat is based on that, then this will clearly be a dud in my book, no matter how good the rest of the game is. Once you have a broken (or maybe not broken, just dumb) combat play mechanic, then the rest of the game can't really save it.


For those that have played the game, was my initial concern real or unfounded? Any insight you can give without revealing any spoilers would be great. I'm still going to rent this game regardless, just cause it's one of those games you gotta try regardless of everything else.

[heybtbm]

For those that have played the game, was my initial concern real or unfounded? Any insight you can give without revealing any spoilers would be great. I'm still going to rent this game regardless, just cause it's one of those games you gotta try regardless of everything else.

When you find yourself in a multiple enemy standoff, you can fight whatever enemy you choose. The "matrix" highlights (as you called it) are highlighted around whatever enemy you're locked on to. You can switch between the locked on enemies and fight them by moving the left thumb stick in their direction before you attack.

The "fight one enemy, while the rest stand there" is done in a way where it's realistic. The enemies surround you and take turns seeing whose "brave" enough to take a shot at you. Since you can counter (and immediately kill) anyone that swings their sword, it's a bit like the old mexican standoff. Each side bluffing and lunging toward each other. Completely believable and fun. The combat is excellent once you get your powers back and learn how to combo and counter. Just another reason I love this game.

[geneshifter]

I take it back. BUY IT FOR THE 360. AVOID THE PS3 VERSION!!!

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/5191065806/p/1

[UniHamachi]

When did 7.something become a "bad review"?
Regardless of what description IGN or whatever site gives to it's scores, 7.X is considered medicore, 8.X is good, and 9.X is worth buying. I think the fact that games are $50-$60 means that a lot of people don't even consider buying a game unless it's a high 8 or in the 9's. 7 means rental at best.

Personally, if I even rent a game, I want to be blown away. I'd only try out a 7 game if there was an element that I really liked.

[heybtbm]

I'd only try out a 7 game if there was an element that I really liked.

Then you must miss out on alot of great games.

[FAMOUS]

Just purchased this game yesterday, played a good hour, still getting use to everything.. Great graphics, hopefully it will all become a little easier when i play tonight,so far so good!

[UniHamachi]

Then you must miss out on alot of great games.
I might be missing out on a lot of games you thought were great, but I go by the reviews and not necessarily the score awarded, and I don't think I'm missing much.

[digdug]

Then you must miss out on alot of great games.

TOTALLY agree there. A review is just someones opinion on a game. Its no different then asking your friend what they thought of a game. There has been at least 10 games this year that have gotten a 7 or less in a review that I thought were INCREDIBLE games. This game is definately one of them.

[Nesmaster]

Personally, if I even rent a game, I want to be blown away. I'd only try out a 7 game if there was an element that I really liked.

Then you are indeed missing out on a lot of good games. Besides, a quick check of metacritic and Assassin's Creed is sitting at 82 currently:

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/assassinscreed

Which means you're not playing a game that you yourself would classify as "good" (8.0+). Not that you'd be able to tell the difference between something someone else rated 7.7 and 8.2 anyways, as it all comes down to opinion. Going ONLY by what IGN has to say is pretty much a form of tunnel vision, in my opinion. The thinking some people have sometimes really makes me shake my head. :rollseyes:

[UniHamachi]

Then you are indeed missing out on a lot of good games. Besides, a quick check of metacritic and Assassin's Creed is sitting at 82 currently:

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/xbox360/assassinscreed

Which means you're not playing a game that you yourself would classify as "good" (8.0+). Not that you'd be able to tell the difference between something someone else rated 7.7 and 8.2 anyways, as it all comes down to opinion. Going ONLY by what IGN has to say is pretty much a form of tunnel vision, in my opinion. The thinking some people have sometimes really makes me shake my head. :rollseyes:
It's my fault for going off topic, but I actually never said anything about Assassin's Creed if you bothered to read what I wrote.

So X_x right back at ya.

[Nesmaster]

It's my fault for going off topic, but I actually never said anything about Assassin's Creed if you bothered to read what I wrote.

So X_x right back at ya.

Ok, touché there. Guess I didn't read that right. :)

But if you're that turned off by something that scores in the 7s, I'd hope you would at least consider renting the title if you were interested in it, even mildly. I'd hate for you to pass on a game with a 7.9 average because of this, and certainly hope you wouldn't. :P

[Anthony1]

I might be missing out on a lot of games you thought were great, but I go by the reviews and not necessarily the score awarded, and I don't think I'm missing much.


I think with this strategy, you are probably playing alot of the best games, but I think you are definitey missing out a few gems here and there that might have been underestimated in their original reviews. Take a game like Crackdown for the Xbox 360. I personally think that Crackdown is one of the 10 best games of 2007, easily. Of course, it will get somewhat forgotten in the avalaunche of games this holiday season, but Crackdown was my game of the year choice before I played BioShock. Right now, I have BioShock ahead of Crackdown and I haven't really had the time to play alot of the games released in the last 60 days or so, so I can't comment on those yet, but the reason I bring Crackdown up, is because if somebody saw Crackdowns review score in OXM, or if they read the review, they would think it was a merely average or below average game, when in fact it's an absolutely outstanding game, and I think a must experience game for any 360 owner that is a fan of action type games.

Crackdown is merely one example of this type of thing. But it happens all the time with alot of other games.

[Anthony1]

Wow, have you guys seen this? It's talked about in another thread, but it's specific to Assassin's Creed, and I think it's kinda relevent to this thread. Now, first, let me say that I still have not played Assassin's Creed yet, so I can't comment one way or the other, I definitely want to play it, I just haven't gotten around to it yet. Anywho, if 1up is to be believed, it seems my initial gut instincts about this game was dead on, in terms of it being somewhat of a big letdown. Check it out:



Assassin's Creed


What was the Hype?

Contrary to popular belief, Ubisoft was not selling hottie Producer Jade Raymond to gamers, but actually an ambitious open-world title so awesome it pretended to be a PS3 exclusive. Well, at least until Ubisoft realized it was a wee bit ironic that a game about a badass assassin wouldn't do so hot on a system that wasn't exactly making a killing at retail. Jokes aside, this was the next, natural evolution to the Prince of Persia series, now complete with next-gen graphics, and presumably game design. On the menu, huge, detailed worlds that capture and contain the chaos and clatter of Altair's Middle Eastern habitat.


How did it Fail?

It forgot it was a, uh, game. Yeah, Assassin's Creed sports some slick graphics, but the actual gameplay consists of doing one thing: killing a bunch of old dudes. Sure, you can collect random flags, but it's obvious that Ubisoft spent way too much time building a cool playground without a second thought of what do actually do inside of it. It's a sandbox game, sure, but there aren't any toys in that sandbox. Similar to having 200 channels with nothing to watch on TV, Assassin's Creed offers huge cities with nothing to do in them, kind of like San Francisco. Not that you can't have loads of fun with Assassin's Creed, but beyond the occasional slapfest, mission objectives are boring and repetitive, the mission tips are dumb ("Here is what I can say: you must use cunning. That is all I can say to help you"), and the combat straight-up sucks. Press X to win, basically. If any modern game failed to live up to the savior-like praise it received pre-release, Assassin's Creed is the poster boy. Woe to those who bought this drastically unfinished game.

Turkey Time Moment:

Every mission objective in every city asks you to do the Same Exact Thing: Save citizens, climb towers to reveal more of your map (and find objectives), pick pocket, interrogate, eavesdrop. A recipe of inspired gameplay? No! A recipe for lazy, digital disaster!



OUCH!

[Drexel923]

Wow, have you guys seen this? It's talked about in another thread, but it's specific to Assassin's Creed, and I think it's kinda relevent to this thread. Now, first, let me say that I still have not played Assassin's Creed yet, so I can't comment one way or the other, I definitely want to play it, I just haven't gotten around to it yet. Anywho, if 1up is to be believed, it seems my initial gut instincts about this game was dead on, in terms of it being somewhat of a big letdown. Check it out:



Assassin's Creed


What was the Hype?

Contrary to popular belief, Ubisoft was not selling hottie Producer Jade Raymond to gamers, but actually an ambitious open-world title so awesome it pretended to be a PS3 exclusive. Well, at least until Ubisoft realized it was a wee bit ironic that a game about a badass assassin wouldn't do so hot on a system that wasn't exactly making a killing at retail. Jokes aside, this was the next, natural evolution to the Prince of Persia series, now complete with next-gen graphics, and presumably game design. On the menu, huge, detailed worlds that capture and contain the chaos and clatter of Altair's Middle Eastern habitat.


How did it Fail?

It forgot it was a, uh, game. Yeah, Assassin's Creed sports some slick graphics, but the actual gameplay consists of doing one thing: killing a bunch of old dudes. Sure, you can collect random flags, but it's obvious that Ubisoft spent way too much time building a cool playground without a second thought of what do actually do inside of it. It's a sandbox game, sure, but there aren't any toys in that sandbox. Similar to having 200 channels with nothing to watch on TV, Assassin's Creed offers huge cities with nothing to do in them, kind of like San Francisco. Not that you can't have loads of fun with Assassin's Creed, but beyond the occasional slapfest, mission objectives are boring and repetitive, the mission tips are dumb ("Here is what I can say: you must use cunning. That is all I can say to help you"), and the combat straight-up sucks. Press X to win, basically. If any modern game failed to live up to the savior-like praise it received pre-release, Assassin's Creed is the poster boy. Woe to those who bought this drastically unfinished game.

Turkey Time Moment:

Every mission objective in every city asks you to do the Same Exact Thing: Save citizens, climb towers to reveal more of your map (and find objectives), pick pocket, interrogate, eavesdrop. A recipe of inspired gameplay? No! A recipe for lazy, digital disaster!



OUCH!

I finally played the game for the first time last night and I agree 100% with this. The game is ass IMO. Not only are the the above points valid, the story is horrible with a million things that don't make sense...(they make sense if you looked at it as a player of the game, but not in the context of the story or time period of the memories).

Oh, and lets not forget the shitty AI.

A huge letdown all around and not worth more than $10 IMO.

[youruglyclone]

I finally played the game for the first time last night and I agree 100% with this. The game is ass IMO. Not only are the the above points valid, the story is horrible with a million things that don't make sense...(they make sense if you looked at it as a player of the game, but not in the context of the story or time period of the memories).

Oh, and lets not forget the shitty AI.

A huge letdown all around and not worth more than $10 IMO.

Funny thing is I had to decide between playing this or mario galaxy (don't worry galaxy won...120 stars in 10 hours). I felt the story moved too slowly, combat was annoying (justifiably so since you should be picking people off discretely) and the fact you couldn't skip cutscenes was annoying, but once you kill the first man (and get counter kills), the game started to be more enjoyable. Then again this is the same person who paid money for Crackdown DLC. It's an ok game, wish they could've done it without the "twist".

I can't see this being a "trilogy" as jade has hinted at

[heybtbm]

I'm almost finished with Assassin's Creed. I could finish it up in an hour or so, but I'm plugging along trying to get the hidden flags. Anyway, my overall opinion of this game is that it's almost as good as Crackdown, yet not quite. Finding flags is not as fun as finding the orbs in Crackdown. The missions are simple and there's really not as much to do in the areas/cities except climb around (which still is a lot of fun).

In short: Not as good as Crackdown, but still a fun game worth playing. It's also the best looking and glitch-free sandbox game made so far. It's just too bad there's not that much to do. The quote above, "A sandbox game without that many toys in the sandbox" is an apt analogy IMO.

[SaturnFan]

I take it back. BUY IT FOR THE 360. AVOID THE PS3 VERSION!!!

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5251069024/m/5191065806/p/1

what?

[PapaStu]

Click the link, read the topic (ERRRR well when that topic was still there, they seemed to have nuked it). Basically there was a big issue with the most recent PS3 firmaware and it killing Assassins Creed. It was making the game crash and or be unplayable because of an option that kept the PS3 connected online for news updates or something to that nature. Turning the function off seemed to fix the issue.

[Nature Boy]

What was the Hype?

Good marketing on the part of Ubisoft. Of course failing to live up to expectations rends it all useless in the end. So good on Ubisoft for getting everybody hyped. Bad on them for not *quite* delivering from what it sounds like.

(It sounds decent to me. The only thing I read that turned me off were excessive cut scenes. I hate those. Yes, I'm looking at you MGS2!)

[Anthony1]

I finally got around to spending some time with this game. First off, I just want to say, that although this game definitely has some serious problems, I find myself wanting to put this game in my 360 tray, more than any other game. Sometimes I think about firing up the PS3 and playing Uncharted or Ratchet and Clank, but then I think... "I should play some more Assassin's Creed". Again, the game definitely has problems, but anytime you keep putting in a game and wanting to play a particular game, that's a good sign. So I think my initial concerns with this game didn't really pan out. Definitely overhyped, definitely not a game of the year canidate, but still a very good video game experience for somebody looking for something with alot of atmosphere and next-gen flavor. Here are some quotes from some other guys in this post that I'd like to comment on:


it looks great and it's fun in short bursts.

I can't disagree with this at all. It looks damn good, although one minor irritation with the graphics is that it seems to go from super bright and sunny, to really overcast, in a matter of seconds, and that just seems kind of weird to me... but I digress... Anywho, yeah, it does look damn good. Also, it's definitely fun in short bursts. That's always nice.



Another thing that's bothering me is the fact that all the submissions you do have no relevance to the difficulty of them game. The vigilantes and hell even the stealth aspects just aren't needed. Which is fine, but it does make all the missions feel similar. I definitely agree with the reviews that said the game feels like your playing the same level over and over again. Granted, it's a damn fine level but variety is really what this game is lacking.

Yeah, I'm pretty early in the game, but I understand what you're trying to say on this. It seems alot of the submissions are just going thru the motions type things, and filler. Alot of missed opportunities to create a game of the year if you ask me.


Every mission objective in every city asks you to do the Same Exact Thing: Save citizens, climb towers to reveal more of your map (and find objectives), pick pocket, interrogate, eavesdrop. A recipe of inspired gameplay? No! A recipe for lazy, digital disaster!

Yeah, this is definitely the worst aspect of the game. I'm very early in the game, but I can already see this repeating pattern. If this really continues exactly like this throughout the whole game, then I might come back to this thread with a much more sour taste in my mouth.


and the combat straight-up sucks. Press X to win, basically.

I was describing this game to a friend of mine, and I said that one thing that kinda sucks about the game, is the fact that it's one of those games that kinda play's itself, if you know what I mean. It doesn't feel like you are in total control of your guy. That always kinda bothers me. I know they do it, cause the only way you can get a truly cinematic view of things, is to take the control away from the player for brief periods of time, while you dramatically alter the camera angle and presentation. It makes the action seem more movie like, but you also end up with much less effect on what is actually happening. The same thing with the jumping around the rooftops thing. It's fun, but you really don't have all that much control over it. I think somebody else described it as being on rails or something, and that's not completely off base.



Ok, ultimately if you read this, you'll see that I've mentioned alot of negative things about this game, but I still think everyone with a PS3 or 360 should at least give this game a rent and check it out. It can't be a complete and total dud if I'm saying that. I think the graphics and audio are very good, the presentation is really good, the story is pretty cool, and it's got alot of atmosphere. It's definitely got a number of issues, but overall, I think it's a pretty compelling title, and everybody should spend at least a little time with it. Game of the Year canidate? Absolutely not. One of the top 5 games of the year? Top 10? Probably not. One of the top 20? On atmosphere and next-gen ambition.... Hell YES.

[Nesmaster]

Yeah, this is definitely the worst aspect of the game. I'm very early in the game, but I can already see this repeating pattern. If this really continues exactly like this throughout the whole game, then I might come back to this thread with a much more sour taste in my mouth.

It does, the game is basically do X, X, X, assassinate target, then do it again 8 more times. I had fun with the game and although very repetitive in nature didn't seem to bother me like I thought it would... I'm collecting the flags right now which is quite a different experience from the story...

[TheDomesticInstitution]

So, like almost a year later is anyone still playing this game? I got this a few weeks ago and started playing it. I just got to Jerusalem, so I'm pretty early in the game. It's pretty cool, although I wish there was a little more variety in weapons and characters. The graphics are pretty cool though. Anyone here still love this game? Any cool shit to look forward to? Is Anthony1 still an asshole?

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

So, like almost a year later is anyone still playing this game? I got this a few weeks ago and started playing it. I just got to Jerusalem, so I'm pretty early in the game. It's pretty cool, although I wish there was a little more variety in weapons and characters. The graphics are pretty cool though. Anyone here still love this game? Any cool shit to look forward to? Is Anthony1 still an asshole?

This game has gone down as one of the most polarizing releases in recent years.

You'll find people all over the map on it.

I loved it and I'll say that it's worth playing through the main story (the optional side-missions pass the time, but don't really reward with any unlocakbles) for the story itself. And there are plenty of very cool weapons and combat moves that you'll learn as you play along that are worth getting to just so you can turn the 5-on-1 battles into a ballet of death with you at the center doing all of the death-strokes.

I think it's a towering technical achievement and a wonderfully crafted universe that UbiSoft will most certainly re-visit and expand on.

BUT you'll certainly find people that loathe the game from start to finish for various reasons. Now that you've bumped this topic I'm sure that some of them will make their way in and bash the game a bit.

It's not perfect by any means, but I personally think it's worth finishing what you've started.

[titanzguard]

I bought the game around Christmas last year and beat it early this year, round March I think. It is a good game but a lot of repetition. The graphics and gameplay are pretty fun. The story is very good as well. After beating it I have picked it up and played it only a handful of times. Once you beat it, it does not have much replay value. I wont ruin anything for you but make sure to not read any threads with spoilers or it will ruin the end for you.

[Sudo]

I adored the game, it was probably in my top three of last year. I can't wait for the sequel, thanks to that damn cliffhanger ending.

[Bojay1997]

I own it and I played it for a few hours, but ultimately, it wasn't that innovative and frankly it was pretty derivative of other games in the genre. I think that five years from now, nobody will list it as one of the great games of this generation.

[Poofta!]

having posted in this topic earlier, before the game's release. i have gotten the game, and i played it, and i liked it. a lot. its a great and beautiful game. i thought the story was interesting... and while it is linear, i think it was an awesome game and it is a proud piece of my collection.


i miss anthony1.... =[

[G-Boobie]

I didn't much care for it.

Frankie is right: for some reason, this is either a game you love or hate. Everyone I know either thought it was a game of the year contender, or that it was a terrible disappointment. I haven't met many people who were indifferent.

I said in another thread that Assassins Creed was the best sixty dollar tech demo/proof of concept I ever returned to the store the next day, and after attempting to play it again on PC I stand by that statement. There's a ton of great ideas in there, but not really a whole lot of game. You do the same six things over and over, and in the end, it wasn't worth sinking my time into.

For everything it does right, there's something that infuriates me, right down to character design. The cities and NPC's are brilliant and nearly period-perfect... While the secret society of assassins wears a fucking Rob Liefeld-designed super-hero outfit.

I expect the inevitable sequel will be far more developed, and I look forward to playing it. The original though...

[j_factor]

i miss anthony1.... =[

Call me crazy, but me too. He had a lot of weird, unsupported ideas, but he was great at provoking real discussion.

[carlcarlson]

I got it in a lot of games that also included Call of Duty 4. I played it the first night for a few hours and enjoyed it. I thought the graphics were great and the play mechanics were interesting. Unfortunately I made the mistake of playing CoD 4 the next day and haven't looked back since.

And yeah, we need another Anthony1.

[alxbly]

The poor-to-average reviews really put me off buying Assassin's Creed. However, when I seen it in a sale a few months ago I bought it and, to my surprise, I thought it was an excellent game.

Okay, maybe I should rephrase that. I found it to be a very engrossing game, but it has obvious flaws. Surprisingly, none of them put me off playing Assassin's Creed and I finished the game pretty quickly. Usually I jump between games but this one held my attention all the way through.

I hope the recently announced sequel builds upon the good things in the first game (graphics, story, controls, atmosphere) and corrects the flaws. Having such a limited amount of side quests and hearing the same lines spoken over and over was a disappointment but I still came away from the game with a feeling that I had finished playing something really good.

[Graham Mitchell]

i miss anthony1.... =[

I had a policy of not contributing to his muckraking threads. But I read through almost every single one of them because it was so much fun to see all the mud-slinging.

And I don't think he provoked "real discussion". He was just a sensationalist jerk who had no capacity for acknowledging any faults in his argument. His threads were just him saying shit that was elitist and biased (or just blatantly false) and everybody just provided mountains of evidence attesting to why he was wrong. Then he'd chime in every 10 posts with something similar to "neener neener neener you can't catch my wiener".

That said, it was kinda funny.

Ok, back to Assassin's Creed. I just got it not too long ago myself, and haven't played it very much. I promised Frankie et. al that I would claw my way through it to see the ending and I still intend to. I just have to finish my damn work and stop procrastinating on DP so I can go do it.

[j_factor]

And I don't think he provoked "real discussion". He was just a sensationalist jerk who had no capacity for acknowledging any faults in his argument. His threads were just him saying shit that was elitist and biased (or just blatantly false) and everybody just provided mountains of evidence attesting to why he was wrong. Then he'd chime in every 10 posts with something similar to "neener neener neener you can't catch my wiener".

I'm not saying that he contributed real discussion, just that he sometimes got other people to do so.

[Graham Mitchell]

I'm not saying that he contributed real discussion, just that he sometimes got other people to do so.

That's true.

[jonnyutah]

I still haven't played this game and i'm a huge HUGE stealth fan!! should I pick up a copy?

I loved Thief: dealdy shadows. I just love hiding in the shadows and watching the enemies talk,stroll about. Is AC anything like thief? Are there nighttime levels in assassins creed? the game looks like it's in all daytime settiings. I guess you don't need have to worry about hiding in AC huh? it's more about blending in the middle of the day right?

as far as repeditive gameplay..... I'm a huge Tenchu fan so that's not an issue with me :)

[G-Boobie]

I still haven't played this game and i'm a huge HUGE stealth fan!! should I pick up a copy?

Now that it's twenty bucks, sure.


I loved Thief: dealdy shadows. I just love hiding in the shadows and watching the enemies talk,stroll about. Is AC anything like thief?

Nope!


Are there nighttime levels in assassins creed? the game looks like it's in all daytime settiings.

Nope! It's all daylight.


I guess you don't need have to worry about hiding in AC huh? it's more about blending in the middle of the day right?

You 'hide' by walking very slowly and pretending to pray. A section that SHOULD take you ten seconds to traverse can sometimes take up to a full minute. A very boring minute, at that. That's probably the greatest sin the game commits, actually. Of course, you CAN go balls out and just cut your way through guardsmen and such, but that smacked of poor game design to me: not 'emergent game play'.

This is, without a doubt, the single most divisive game this generation: I think everyone should at least try it, if only to figure out on which side of the line they fall.


as far as repeditive gameplay..... I'm a huge Tenchu fan so that's not an issue with me :)

Tenchu is more fun for me, but as with everything, mileage varies. I have some hope for the sequel now that they can focus on level design and perfecting the mechanics instead of building the engine, but the first one was a dud for me.

[garagesaleking!!]

How did this Anthony1 Get banned? 4300 posts is a lot and he was around for a while,

I would have to say though assasins creed was not a dud, while extremely repetitive, i still could not put it down for some reason. The viewpoints were one of my favorite parts of the game.

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

I would have to say though assasins creed was not a dud, while extremely repetitive...

UbiSoft claims to have taken all criticisms into account and claims that the sequel will be free of the repetitious "missions" like pick-pocketing, flag running and the like.

While I didn't mind those, I certainly won't gripe about them being gone if they come up with more varied things to do in Venice!

[8-bitNesMan]

How did this Anthony1 Get banned? 4300 posts is a lot and he was around for a while,

Anthony1, a.k.a Mr. RGB, left of his own accord if I recall correctly. He made a "goodbye" post and *POOF* he was gone...

[Poofta!]

Anthony1, a.k.a Mr. RGB, left of his own accord if I recall correctly. He made a "goodbye" post and *POOF* he was gone...

yes, i miss him, too.

[garagesaleking!!]

how did he end up banned if he just left, just because of inactivity for a certain amount of time?

[carlcarlson]

how did he end up banned if he just left, just because of inactivity for a certain amount of time?

It is in the forum rules that if you make a "goodbye post" you will be banned. I believe it's to keep people from feigning a goodbye just to get attention.

Why Anthony felt the need to leave is a whole other story, one that I don't really know entirely. My take is that he was a very opinionated guy that liked to write very long, drawn-out posts, oftentimes about stuff that people just didn't care about. Personally I kind of liked the guy. We didn't always agree but I thought he was a good contributor to the community. I think he just rubbed too many of the long-timers the wrong way.

Anyway, how about them assassin's creeds?

[Zthun]

I would have to say though assasins creed was not a dud, while extremely repetitive, i still could not put it down for some reason. The viewpoints were one of my favorite parts of the game.

The story and plot was really engrossing. That's what kept me playing personally.

Fact of the matter is, AC sucked as far as a game went. Every single city had absolutely NOTHING to do. Just move from point to point, doing the same things over and over and over again. It was like spider man games where certain crimes pop up around the city. Somehow, no criminal has any creativity and they just keep doing the same crimes. AC really needed some side quests with special rewards, or something similar. Powerups, new costumes, weapons, ANYTHING.

The other problem is it's supposed to be a 'stealth' game, yet Altair is so powerful, he can take out waves and waves of guards without having to actually be stealthy. The moment you get counter, you can just run through the entire game like a mad man, and you receive no penalty for it.

I don't have high hopes for AC2. I believe a lot of people will take a look at it and, like most games of this genre, will go 'oh, nice, shiny graphics.' They'll buy it and tell you how great it is because of how nice it looks. Sigh...the sad part is...I'll probably end up getting it in the end....even though I know better. :frustrated:

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

It's Amusing that Assassin's Creed continues to be a polarizing game debate.

The title of this thread has already been answered if you view success by units sold.

Even if you check a meta-rating score, it managed to maintain a B-level/above average ranking over the course of the past few years.

Whether or not anybody thought the game "sucked" it was one of the top 10 selling games of 07/08, and one of the few that was a uniquely new franchise.

Instances of personally disappointed gamers aside, I can't see how that would equate to a title being considered a "dud".

I think more recently we've seen legit (or more appropriate examples of) high-profile "duds" in the marketplace in the form of Bionic Commando and GTA Chinatown Wars.

Regardless of how any gameplay/writing/play mechanics "flaws" were perceived by gamers, it made massive massive cash at brick and mortar, it did manage to make its way onto some GOTY lists, and Ubisoft has invested a massive development team in its sequel.

Love it or hate it, Assassin's Creed is a franchise that's here to stay for the immediate future.

[Kid Ice]

how did he end up banned if he just left, just because of inactivity for a certain amount of time?

He threatened to beat someone up.

And he was a nuisance for about four years. Take this thread for instance, where the ever-clairvoyant Anthony avers that Assassin's Creed is going to be a dud. And lo and behold, almost instantly every gaming site is blogging about the games dev issues. Weird, huh?

However, I gotta admit, people posted like hell in his threads. He should probably have his own forum.

[heybtbm]

Loved Assassin's Creed. I'll be picking up the sequel on day one. I'm even ready for more masochistic flag hunts.

[8-bitNesMan]

I bet Anthony1 really liked Assassin's Creed, but only if it was in true RGB (Old timers around here will get that one) :D

[jonnyutah]

think i'll pick up assassins creed. I'll try to find the LE case if any are still around. as a tenchu fan i'm sure i'll like it. nothing gets quite as repetitive as tenchu games LOL

[Kid Ice]

I bet Anthony1 really liked Assassin's Creed, but only if it was in true RGB (Old timers around here will get that one) :D

Old timers? Dude try Robsterman or Blake Stone.

[Mr Mort]

I played and beat it, but it took me over a year. It took me that long because I admittedly got bored of playing essentially the same missions over and over. I played half of it, put the game on the shelf and then picked it back up and beat it several months later. Despite that, I really did enjoy it.

The plot is really what kept me coming back, but I did genuinely enjoy the gameplay and mechanics, there simply wasn't enough variety.

I'm confident the sequel will be much better, and I'm excited to play it. I have no doubt Ubisoft know about people's gripes with the first game, and have addressed them this time around.

[Trumpman]

Sorry for bumping this thread, but I'm late to the Assassin's Creed party.

I'm really enjoying the game; the fact that Altair is so insanely good doesn't really bother me, because it's fun to be an absolute badass. The only thing that's annoying are the endless investigations and, because I'm masochistic, the flag hunts. But the story is cool and the free running is just awesome. I can't wait to play Creed 2 once I finish this one!

[Frankie_Says_Relax]

Sorry for bumping this thread, but I'm late to the Assassin's Creed party.

I'm really enjoying the game; the fact that Altair is so insanely good doesn't really bother me, because it's fun to be an absolute badass. The only thing that's annoying are the endless investigations and, because I'm masochistic, the flag hunts. But the story is cool and the free running is just awesome. I can't wait to play Creed 2 once I finish this one!

Part 2 does a better job of delivering "stuff to do" ... yet, IMO it still winds up feeling a bit repetitive. However, if you don't mind the repetition in the 1st title, you probably won't feel it at all in the 2nd.

I haven't played Brotherhood yet, but the online beta was very fun.

[LaughingMAN.S9]

the only reason i even made it thru assassins creed 2 was cuz of a hooked up ipod i had connected to my xbox while i played that boring ass game, the game is essentially the same as 1 with a less intriguing story imo but slighty more variety in what you can do in game, overall i find the series overrated, i quit after 2, brotherhood might be the greatest game ever created but i'll never find out cuz i dont hate myself enough to suffer through another one lol