Is the 360 RROD Situation Improving?

[cityside75]

Lately, I haven't noticed nearly as many people talking about RROD on any of the game forums that I frequent. I've also noticed that it's less common to read about it on news sites like Joystiq.

Do you think MS has finally gotten a handle on the problem, and the repairs/refurbs are working more reliably now? I got my 360 back a couple months ago and it's been working great, and I've noticed it runs cooler and the disks aren't so hot when I take them out after a few hours of use like they were on my old unit.

[Superman]

You're right, cityside, it seems that a large number of them went out over a few months during the spring/summer. That is when we heard all the complaints.

I guess those have been fixed and are working and now there aren't as many newer units with the problems.

[sickdrummer420]

Lately, I haven't noticed nearly as many people talking about RROD on any of the game forums that I frequent. I've also noticed that it's less common to read about it on news sites like Joystiq.

Do you think MS has finally gotten a handle on the problem, and the repairs/refurbs are working more reliably now? I got my 360 back a couple months ago and it's been working great, and I've noticed it runs cooler and the disks aren't so hot when I take them out after a few hours of use like they were on my old unit.

yes mine was also fixed recently and it runs awesome at the moment. it also does run way cooler than before and my disc arent burning hot after hours of use.

[Mianrtcv]

Has Microsoft changed the basic components/architecture? I heard they were going to.

In the interim gave away my 360. Now I'm considering getting one again.

[RyanMurf]

I think that it is still happening. I think that no one talks about it anymore because it is now a boring topic. It is something that a xbox 360 owner adapts to. If it happens to them I dont think that they would be so surprised.

[dgdgagdae]

Funny, I just got my first RROD the other day. I bought mine last October, and it was just a bit over one year old. I bought the Circuit City extended warranty, because MS only offered a 90 day warranty at the time. Debated whether I was going to get it serviced through MS or CC, as once I use the CC warranty, it's over. But they'll send a gift card, and I can get a brand new one in store. The new one will come with a 1 year MS warranty, which will last just a bit longer than what I had remaining on the 2 year CC warranty.

It's like I get to stick it to the man! And be without a 360 for awhile.

[ianoid]

I just got my RROD from Halo 3. And I never game more than 2 hours, mostly short bits. I am a huge 360 supporter, and I'm not surprised about my RROD. BUT, I just wish they could make hardware as well as Sony. Clearly Sony is the more experience manu, but the 360 is a better game machine at this point. Grrr. I just got GH3 in the mail too. So they're sending out my coffin.

Anyone have any update or links about when to buy another 360 that won't break all the time? I have heard that 65nm isn't the answer. I'd have two 360s if I knew that I wasn't going to buy another Lemon.

[xplics]

I dunno where the issue is going overall aspect of it all, but as in my personal situation it ain't going to good. I think my freakin 360 is starting to act funny and sure hope is not going to go out on me but knowing it is a earlier 360 seems like a thing that will happen.....

[boatofcar]

I think that it is still happening. I think that no one talks about it anymore because it is now a boring topic. It is something that a xbox 360 owner adapts to. If it happens to them I dont think that they would be so surprised.

As much as I hate to admit it, I think that's the case too.

[swlovinist]

I hear more now than I have ever heard. I think the reason why is that there are a ton of excellent games on the system, and everyone is PLAYING thier system alot. I feel for the people that it has happened to. I have been lucky so far.

[ianoid]

Does anyone know anything about planned revisions of the hardware that will alleviate the RROD/poor design of the original 360? I actually believe that all of the 1st gen units will RROD eventually. That you might as well cook your 360 before the end of the 3 yrs is up just to be sure you get a new unit, if you bought in the first year (which I did).

I know that some of the units have new heat sinks, and supposedly the Halo editions have 65nm cpus, but then I've heard that is no final solution to the overheating. I'm guessing I'll be out a 360 for about a month (grrr!) and I'd probably consider buying another 360 if I knew it was somehow altered in design. Links appreciated.

[ianoid]

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2007/10/xbox_360_secrets_after_falcon_comes_jasper.html

Here is a useful update as to the future of 360 motherboards. There is hope that future redesigns will increase the reliability of the unit. I don't know if I'll wait until next holiday season to get a second unit, so now I have to do some research to confirm which consoles are Falcon and which are Zephyr. Anyone? Clearly I should get a Falcon, and I'd actually prefer to get an Elite or a Halo edition- actually prefer an elite for the hard disk.

I think my biggest complaint about the 360 is that I have d/l content on one I can't access on a second 360- I would have to buy the content twice, eh?

At least my gamerscore is portable for achievements. I just think it's lame that I can only play Galaga on one of my 360s. It's as restrictive as any DRA.

[icbrkr]

Friend of mine bought a new Halo 360 - dead after 2 days so I'm not sure how revised the motherboard is (his was manufactured July 2007). Instead of exchanging, he called up Microsoft so at least the one coming in might be fixed.

[PapaStu]

My system is still fine (not overheating) however its now killing its second disc. My Legendary copy of Halo 3 will now no longer load level #9. Can't wait for it to stop scratching my discs up and for it to die.

[Lerxstnj]

My system is still fine (not overheating) however its now killing its second disc. My Legendary copy of Halo 3 will now no longer load level #9. Can't wait for it to stop scratching my discs up and for it to die.


Why isn't M$ fixing the disk-drive problem also? I know a few people going thru that issue now. Sometimes having to smack the 360 to get it to read. Sounds like the drive is mis-alligned and scratching disks.

Only over-heating issues get fixed???? That sux!

There are quite a lot of good 360 games now, but I'm still waiting until all the bugs are out. Got plenty of last-gen games to keep me busy in the meantime...

[cityside75]

Well as soon as I ask the question I get the answer - with a bunch of new RROD related threads popping up along with the responses in this thread I'm thinking the picture still isn't quite as rosy as I was hoping.

Here's hoping my current box continues to perform well!

[cityside75]

Why isn't M$ fixing the disk-drive problem also? I know a few people going thru that issue now. Sometimes having to smack the 360 to get it to read. Sounds like the drive is mis-alligned and scratching disks.

Only over-heating issues get fixed???? That sux!

There are quite a lot of good 360 games now, but I'm still waiting until all the bugs are out. Got plenty of last-gen games to keep me busy in the meantime...

I mentioned this in another thread, but my old 360 didn't have a RROD problem, was beyond 1 year old (at least by manufacture date), and I didn't have any original paperwork because I bought it used. When my disk drive stopped reading disks, they sent me a coffin no questions asked.

[diskoboy]

I've had mine since Feb. 06. - I realized a few months back, this this thing is now just a ticking time bomb.

And I believe it's now about to go off.

My DVD drive reads games as DVD videos, and I get the white screen, in about 50 different languages, telling me to insert the game into an Xbox 360 console. And if I manage to get past that, I get a disc read error. I'm lucky if a game boots up at all. But I'm not having problems watching DVD ot HD-DVD videos. No heat problems. No problems with demos or XBLA games. No game discs being scratched. Just the DVD drive giving me grief.

Next payday, I think I'm gonna splurge, and get an Elite before this thing craps out completely. I got me a 223 day streak on my 360voice blog, and I wanna see how long I can keep it going ;)

[eggwolio]

I bought my 360 used off a guy and it has the read problem. I was unaware that MS would even be willing to do anything at all for me since it's out of warranty. Is there a specific way to approach it to get it replaced?

[digitalpress]

I think that it is still happening. I think that no one talks about it anymore because it is now a boring topic. It is something that a xbox 360 owner adapts to. If it happens to them I dont think that they would be so surprised.

Remember when we cracked open those first few 360's? You could literally SEE that these machines had problems. Thermal putty flaking off, solder soft to the touch... remember when we agreed that ALL of those original 360's were eventually going to fail?

My next prediction is that we'll look back at threads like this and say "oh yeah, those early models had some real problems" but in the long run, we'll remember the 360 as a solid game system with some quirks in its early days.

[fuchikoma]

Just had the video die on mine. Was playing ace combat 6 when I started getting weird graphical glitches. Restarted the 360 and didn't get any video. Switched over to a VGA cable and had it up for about 10 minutes before the same thing happened.

Called MS, and since this wasn't RROD-specific, it's not covered.

Bad month to lose my 360. :(

[boatofcar]

Is there a consensus on what is the better position to put your 360 in? I lay mine flat and put it on a hardwood floor makes it run a lot cooler than stuffing it into an entertainment center shelf.

[cityside75]

Well I received the definitive answer to my original question last night, when a friend and I attempted to load up a game on the 360 and I was greeted with the RROD :(

Sadly, I've been so busy lately that I probably have put less than 30 hours on this 360 since it was sent to me.

So I guess the situation hasn't improved as much as I'd hoped....

[Juganawt]

I've had mine since Feb. 06. - I realized a few months back, this this thing is now just a ticking time bomb.

And I believe it's now about to go off.

My DVD drive reads games as DVD videos, and I get the white screen, in about 50 different languages, telling me to insert the game into an Xbox 360 console. And if I manage to get past that, I get a disc read error. I'm lucky if a game boots up at all. But I'm not having problems watching DVD ot HD-DVD videos. No heat problems. No problems with demos or XBLA games. No game discs being scratched. Just the DVD drive giving me grief.

Next payday, I think I'm gonna splurge, and get an Elite before this thing craps out completely. I got me a 223 day streak on my 360voice blog, and I wanna see how long I can keep it going ;)

It's a nightmare, lemme tell ya. my first 360 had unplayable disc, and now my 2nd 360 is doing the same thing. Only 3 games work regularly - VF5, Bladestorm, and Guitar Hero III.. The others I have to load and eject and reload several times, and games like THPG and Mass Effect won't work at all.

It's gonna be a lonely christmas without my 360 while it's sat in the repair station.

[diskoboy]

Well..... Mine just red ringed.

There goes may 260-plus day playing streak.

[YoshiM]

Is there a consensus on what is the better position to put your 360 in? I lay mine flat and put it on a hardwood floor makes it run a lot cooler than stuffing it into an entertainment center shelf.

I put higher "feet" (the rubber sticky kind) on the bottom of my 360 so there's more airflow. Seemed to help as the deck doesn't feel as warm after playing a graphically intense game.

[cityside75]

Well I just got off the phone with customer support, and apparently they are doing things a little differently now than even a few months ago. They are going to have me send back the power supply with the console this time so that the techs can test each console with its own supply.

Also, he made a point of telling me that my replacement console would include "new, fixed parts inside of it" because they've figured out the problem and have new better working parts now. I'm hopeful that he may be referring to the newer chipset, but I don't know.

He also gave me a pretty firm timeline, saying that the replacement console would be shipped out 12 days after receiving my console. We'll see if it's that quick.

[koster]

Well I just got off the phone with customer support, and apparently they are doing things a little differently now than even a few months ago. They are going to have me send back the power supply with the console this time so that the techs can test each console with its own supply.

Also, he made a point of telling me that my replacement console would include "new, fixed parts inside of it" because they've figured out the problem and have new better working parts now. I'm hopeful that he may be referring to the newer chipset, but I don't know.

He also gave me a pretty firm timeline, saying that the replacement console would be shipped out 12 days after receiving my console. We'll see if it's that quick.
Calendar days or business days?

Hopefully, Microsoft's customer support will remember to include the power supply in the return shipment, but you never know... :)

[diskoboy]

Well I just got off the phone with customer support, and apparently they are doing things a little differently now than even a few months ago. They are going to have me send back the power supply with the console this time so that the techs can test each console with its own supply.

Also, he made a point of telling me that my replacement console would include "new, fixed parts inside of it" because they've figured out the problem and have new better working parts now. I'm hopeful that he may be referring to the newer chipset, but I don't know.

He also gave me a pretty firm timeline, saying that the replacement console would be shipped out 12 days after receiving my console. We'll see if it's that quick.


They told you to send the power supply? The guy I talked to didn't mention anything about including the power supply.

I'm wondering if I should throw mine in...

And this repair will be a one time thing. If I have to send it off again, I'm getting an Elite with the new mobo (and hopefully the 65nm chips) and when I get the original back, sell it for $$$

EDIT - I just tried turning on my 360. It booted up.

No 'towel fix'. Just pressed the button, and presto. Weird shit, considering I tried turning it on 7 different times, and got the red rings every time........

[boatofcar]

and when I get the original back, sell it for $$$

Unfortunately, it will probably be $ instead of $$$. The market for used 360's is suffering because of the RRoD too...

[ianoid]

So I got RROD on my first xbox, a relatively early one bought Jan of 2006. The phone calls were pretty easy, maybe 20 min each with a call back for their 'system' troubles.

Got the coffin, sent it in, less than two weeks and got a system with a new serial number. Haven't tested it yet or tried to figure out the state of the hardware or if it's a new motherboard and my old case.

I couldn't wait to play 360 so I actually bought an Arcade with a serial number supposedly containing the 65nm processor. My conclusion was that even these can be bricked and that the real improvement in the future is supposed to be the 65nm gpu and 65nm cpu setup coming in about a year.

I can say that MS's lack of experience as a hardware manu is showing. I'm guessing that every 360 is a ticking timebomb. I'm just glad mine didn't crap out at 3 years 1 day.

I think it's pretty pathetic that they admit the problem with a warranty extension but there hasn't really been any explanation as to why we have to deal with this crap.

I got a 120mb drive for the arcade, but now I'm wondering what DRM I have to contend with and if I can play my arcade titles on both consoles or if I'm supposed to be rebuying them. Do I need to get a cable to transfer everything to the big drive?

The download only model is awful. No resale. No flexibility. You may pay $5 for a game, but you'd have to pay $12.50 for the same game to have some flexibility.

OT complaints.

[cityside75]

They told you to send the power supply? The guy I talked to didn't mention anything about including the power supply.

I'm wondering if I should throw mine in...

And this repair will be a one time thing. If I have to send it off again, I'm getting an Elite with the new mobo (and hopefully the 65nm chips) and when I get the original back, sell it for $$$

EDIT - I just tried turning on my 360. It booted up.

No 'towel fix'. Just pressed the button, and presto. Weird shit, considering I tried turning it on 7 different times, and got the red rings every time........

Well he told me they'd be sending me a bigger box specifically to hold the power supply along with the console. If you get one of the smaller boxes that don't specify it I wouldn't throw it in, since they clearly say anything that isn't supposed to be in the box won't be returned (faceplates, games, etc).

[heybtbm]

And this repair will be a one time thing. If I have to send it off again, I'm getting an Elite with the new mobo (and hopefully the 65nm chips) and when I get the original back, sell it for $$$

You're going to need that extra 360 as an alternate. That way you can use one while the other is on vacation in Texas. By the time it returns, your other 360 will have the RRoD and the cycle repeats...and repeats...and repeats.

[diskoboy]

Update - of course we all knew I was gonna be back saying it red ringed again.

Well here I am...

I was gonna send it to MS, anyway, even if it was working properly before I boxed it up.

[gum_drops]

Maybe they should start throwing in a free t-shirt with the returned systems

http://xs321.xs.to/xs321/07484/rrod.jpg

[Ryu3324]

I got my 360 at launch and I got the RROD the week prior to Halo 3 coming out. Luckily my cousin's projection tv blew so he let me borrow his 360. I got mine back after 3 weeks. His gave him the RROD last week and when I gave it to him it worked.

[Icarus Moonsight]

Maybe they should start throwing in a free t-shirt with the returned systems

http://xs321.xs.to/xs321/07484/rrod.jpg

Nice find. :) I have to get me one of those. LOL

[dairugger]

well mines gone to texas for rehab! ups just took her away.

my view is that since i shelled out 400.00 for this thing it should be waiting for me, not the other way around. i dont care if it has a 3 year extended warranty to cover the shoddy workmanship, and ive hardly played the thing! and i do take very good care of my systems, even vacuming out the vents every week.

[diskoboy]

How long does it usually take for the boxes to arrive?

It's been 4 days now, and mine still hasn't arrived.

[Merlins Beard]

Mine came six from the day I called..

[diskoboy]

Mine came six from the day I called..

Well.... So much for getting it back before Christmas.

God damn, these next few weeks are gonna seem like an eternity. I still have my Wii, but the games don't hold my attenion for more than half an hour. And I've almost got 100% on Mario Galaxy. Just a few comets I have to go back and get.

[Slate]

Well I guess i'm just lucky.

I've had my system since August 15th 2006 (It was manufactured in march 2006) And I NEVER Had the three red rings. I do get one red ring now and then, And most of the time I have to start it up multiple times before I get a video signal but maybe that is because the power is unplugged when it isn't on.

Also the DVD Drive sticks sometimes.

[diskoboy]

Update - the box came. At about 6:30pm. Got it packed and ready to go.

Gotta take it to the UPS store at lunch, tomorrow.

Godspeed, little 360... ;)

[boatofcar]

Maybe they should start throwing in a free t-shirt with the returned systems

http://xs321.xs.to/xs321/07484/rrod.jpg

Haha, awesome.

Honestly, I have no idea what I'd do should my 360 die. I wonder if MS would send a coffin to Korea since I bought the 360 in the US...

[diskoboy]

Just got my 360 back from Texas. Damn, that was fast!

Actually, according to the letter in the box, I got a replacement console from MS. When did they start doing this?

Regardless, I'm just glad it's back. The Wii just wasn't cutting it.

[heybtbm]

Just got my 360 back from Texas. Damn, that was fast!

Actually, according to the letter in the box, I got a replacement console from MS. When did they start doing this?

Regardless, I'm just glad it's back. The Wii just wasn't cutting it.

Welcome back to the fold.

As far as replacements, they've been sending refurb units exclusively since July of this year. They all have a bullshit manufacture date too. It's actually the date the unit was refurbished.


The Wii just wasn't cutting it.

Understatement of the year.

[dairugger]

I just recieved mine back last wednesday and its my old 360 ( i checked the serial,etc). i wonder if they added anything?..

[Daft Punk]

Well my 360 shit the bed again with the RROD . This will be the 3rd time WTF......Box is on it's way to send it in.

[geneshifter]

Looking at some of these old posts about MS fixing the problem make me LOL

[rbudrick]

My next prediction is that we'll look back at threads like this and say "oh yeah, those early models had some real problems" but in the long run, we'll remember the 360 as a solid game system with some quirks in its early days.

Yes, we will look back and say how the first 3-4 YEARS were quirky...not quite just the early years, Joe! ;) That's a significant chunk of its life cycle. In many consoles that's by far the majority of a life cycle.

-Rob

[carlcarlson]

Well I guess it was bound to happen some time... I red-lighted today. Thing is, I only got ONE red light. It seems to have something to do with video as I only get it when the AV cable is plugged in (and yes I tried multiple cables). I just sent in my repair request. I got super lucky, my warranty runs out on the 28th!

[ianoid]

Unfortunately I'm beginning to think that Nintendo has the best attitude about cycling hardware. Sony (PSP needs two analog sticks) and Microsoft (Xbox 360 needs to last longer and sound less vacuum cleanerly). It's unfortunate.

The PS3 is a much slicker piece of kit, to get all Brit on you all. Not that I play it more than the 360, but it's quieter and more reliable.

[gepeto]

Well Msn had an article today about the rrod still going on but I think it is just a bogus sorta rerelease story since there was a dvd drive lawsuit story yesterday.

Maybe I am wrong but I could have sworn the rrod died substantially. That is what my gut tells me. I guess ibecause to me the outcry has died down. Has it died down?

[swlovinist]

Of the 20 or so game stores that are in my area, the answer to your question is "yes and no".

The 360 has fewer RROD happeining....now the systems are doing other things that are going wrong. Glitchy white spots on screen is the one I hear about alot. The 360 will be remembered as a system with great games, and horrible failure rates. It has to be one of the most unreliable systems to be mainstrem and popular. I really wish they would do a serious redesign

[alxbly]

Glitchy white spots on screen is the one I hear about alot.

I'd been getting that today with the Xbox 360 Elite that I bought in October. Now it crashes whenever it gets to the dashboard. Back to the store it goes... luckily I have another 360 so I'm not screwed. Still, a console that's just over two months old and it's unplayable, that's just totally unacceptable. It's not like I mistreat the thing either; there's plenty of space around it for it to breath and it never gets moved from it's position.

I'm gutted. I bought this one to compliment my two year old premium system (a 360 in the bedroom and the lounge, lol). I wasn't expecting the Elite to die first.

It's manufacter date is May 2008 and it's a Falcon (plastic power connector, benq disc drive).

:(

[eugenek]

You know, honestly, I think that RRoD talk HAS died down, if for no other reason than how common it has become. I feel like people are at a stage where they get an RRoD and just kind of shrug because they are almost expecting it.

With that said, for Falcon, I think they did improve the hardware slightly, and rumor is, the defect rates are much lower. Though of course, it's still too soon to tell whether those consoles will be alive 5+ years.

Here's hoping Jasper does the trick. I just picked one up...

[Kevin Listwan]

hmm, yeah I am sitting here with no system due to RRoD right when I have some time off from work.

Now I am on system number three once I get it back...

[wufners]

I've waffled for two years on a 360 because of my fears of a breakdown. This year, I finally relented and asked for and received one for Christmas.

I plugged the sucker in, spent about 5 minutes choosing some settings, and then, as I reached to put in a game for the first time, it died. Or at least it over heated (two red rings on the left.) After 5 minutes. Brand fucking new. With nary a game played.

I let it sit for 15 minutes, booted it back up and was able to enjoy 5 minutes of Burnout Paradise (my 3 year old likes racing games) before it overheated again.

The thing was nearly alone in the middle of a table--plenty of ventilation.

This time I waited about 2 hours. It didn't matter. For the third time in its young, disabled life, I turned my Xbox on, and for the third time it overheated and crashed.

I emailed Microsoft who got back to me quickly with a response from the very polite "Ana" who "understood it was frustrating" and ever so helpfully regurgitated the information in the manual on the website. If those obvious steps, most of which I had already done, did not work, then I was going to have to send it back to Microsoft. This is as ticked as I've ever been with a gaming system. $350+ bucks and the first thing I was going to get to do with it was send it to Microsoft for what could be a refurbished unit? So lame.

I gave it one last shot with Ana's website quoted advice to let it cool for "several hours." The next morning, I switched it on and walked away. When I came back 15 minutes later . . .two flashing red lights.

The happy part of this story is that my wife bought the system for me at Costco. Even though I had thrown away the packaging for the second controller and the recharge kit, they took it back without even an eye bat and paid me back in cash. God love ya, Costco.

Since this was a gift and I had already opened the 4 games I had been given, I picked up another 360. The piece of junk I had just returned had come from Costco's old stock, before the Indy/Panda bundle. My hope was that I was buying the new Jasper chip and everything would run a little more . . . coolly.

No luck. I got another Falcon (my wife wanted me to return that one too.) Still, I plugged it in and it survived passed the 5 minute barrier it's predecessor could not. In fact, I spent a good hour crashing cars in Burnout (it's all I know how to do because that map is too damn small for me to read.) When I turned everything off, the 360 wasn't even warm to the touch, which the other one most definitely was.

So all and all, a happy ending. A big thank you to Costco for their easy return policy (it was bought online, so I even came out $15 ahead since they refunded the shipping costs as well.) I'm looking forward to Bioshock. And since I'm pretty easy on my systems--I rarely have more than a couple hours of week to play--I'll hopefully get a good life out of this thing. Or it will die the day after the warranty is up.

It's kind of funny (now, not at the time) that I put off getting this thing for a couple of years out of fears of a breakdown, and when I finally went for it, it was DOA.

[Fuyukaze]

From my experience, most people I know personaly who have one have had to send their ystem in for repair atleast 2-3 already. A few have had to send it in as much as 6 times, a couple are still on their first. I dont have one yet as I dont have nearly half a grand to flush down a toilet or toss in a grease fire.

[ProgrammingAce]

FYI, not that it really matters but 2 lights is a bad GPU not overheating. Running that system out of your freezer wouldn't have done you any good, it was borked out of the factory.

[Sabz5150]

http://www.faniq.com/images/blog/Ford%20Pinto.jpg

They need to completely scrap the 360 and build a new version from the ground up. They're treating this like they do their PC market which goes a long way to explaining the current situation.

Just one more service pack... just one more service pack... just one more...

[wufners]

FYI, not that it really matters but 2 lights is a bad GPU not overheating. Running that system out of your freezer wouldn't have done you any good, it was borked out of the factory.

I got the overheating meaning from Microsoft's website and the 360's manual. That's probably their polite, marketing friendly way of saying bad GPU. It leaves just enough wriggle room to imply the possibility of user error, rather than having to take full fault right off the bat.

If I had to have one break on me, annoying though it was, I'm glad it was right out of the box rather than in 3 months. I'd much rather return a busted item than send it in for repair. Which I suppose all indications are that one day I'll have to do anyway.

[Aussie2B]

Dang, I'm a 360 "newbie" so I don't keep up with this stuff much, but it appears that I just barely missed out on getting the Jasper revision. I bought mine in October, and it was manufactured on September 25th. I guess if I had only bought it a couple weeks later, I might have gotten a better model. :/ Oh well, I just hope it doesn't crap out on me.

[Daft Punk]

I just got mine back and they sent me a refurb unit. Seems a little quieter and it's got the white drive face instead of the chrome.

They have another 360 of mine right now that was RROD we will see what they give me.

[skaar]

This thread inspired me to fire up the launch unit again. It died after years of service and we transplanted it to an aftermarket Lian-Li case. That got it another few months of service then it died again... sat on a shelf for 6 months and decided to fire it up. Can't get any video out of it at all but it is making all the noises it should - I hear it fire up, my profile (old one I guess) log in and it runs Orange Box... just all with no video.

Some fun, hey Bambi?

360s are so freaking cheap nowadays it doesn't bother me so much - I've got the Pro I bought to replace it and an Arcade I picked up after the price drop happened while I was travelling in the US - Worked out to be something like 180 CDN since the dollar was kicking so much ass at the time and you guys don't have anywhere NEAR the sales taxes.

The Arcade is currently on loan to a friend who's pro model died after a year and a half, poor bastard.

[Daft Punk]

This thread inspired me to fire up the launch unit again. It died after years of service and we transplanted it to an aftermarket Lian-Li case. That got it another few months of service then it died again... sat on a shelf for 6 months and decided to fire it up. Can't get any video out of it at all but it is making all the noises it should - I hear it fire up, my profile (old one I guess) log in and it runs Orange Box... just all with no video.



I have a 3rd unit that does that . From what I have found out it's also due to overheating. It's said that the xclamp RROD fix will also work on that problem.