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diskoboy
11-04-2007, 10:45 PM
They make a list (in chronological order) of the 13 scariest games ever made.

http://games.ign.com/articles/831/831082p1.html

Resident Evil 4 is not even on the list. 7th Guest, and 2 Fatal Frames are apparantely better than RE4.


Will someone please tell these dumbasses what a "video game" is....

stimmyjimmel
11-04-2007, 11:53 PM
I have to disagree with your statement of angst. You mention that RE4 is a better game, sure I can roll with that that game kicks all kinds of ass. What i cant go along with is the fact that they didnt say anything about how good the games are just how scary they were.

frankly i didnt find RE4 all that scary (but maybe i dont find anything as scary after playing in the dark with no one else around sessions of Silent hill 2... gave me nightmares)

I normally dont go to IGN and wont say anything about the retard factor (cause frankly that guy did seem to be a bit on that end of things) but all the same a site that has a major component related just to video games probalby does at least know what they are.

Borman
11-05-2007, 12:08 AM
I have to disagree with your statement of angst. You mention that RE4 is a better game, sure I can roll with that that game kicks all kinds of ass. What i cant go along with is the fact that they didnt say anything about how good the games are just how scary they were.

frankly i didnt find RE4 all that scary (but maybe i dont find anything as scary after playing in the dark with no one else around sessions of Silent hill 2... gave me nightmares)

I normally dont go to IGN and wont say anything about the retard factor (cause frankly that guy did seem to be a bit on that end of things) but all the same a site that has a major component related just to video games probalby does at least know what they are.

I agree, RE4, while being a good game and all, wasnt scary at all.

diskoboy
11-05-2007, 12:09 AM
I have to disagree with your statement of angst. You mention that RE4 is a better game, sure I can roll with that that game kicks all kinds of ass. What i cant go along with is the fact that they didnt say anything about how good the games are just how scary they were.

frankly i didnt find RE4 all that scary (but maybe i dont find anything as scary after playing in the dark with no one else around sessions of Silent hill 2... gave me nightmares)

I normally dont go to IGN and wont say anything about the retard factor (cause frankly that guy did seem to be a bit on that end of things) but all the same a site that has a major component related just to video games probalby does at least know what they are.

Actually, I think the sequence in the village of RE4 are some of the creepiest, most unsettling moments in a video game - easily topping any of it's predecessors. Once you enter the castle, the games story starts to look a little silly.

I won't even go into why BioShock should also be included on that list, and System Shock 2 was..... I've played through BioShock twice, and am going through it yet again, on hard. The overall ambience mixed with the overall deterioration and stark, foreboding atmosphere of the city itself... There are some genuinely scary moments in that game.

I'm not saying System Shock 2 was a bad game, I'm just saying Bioshock is more or less an homage to System Shock 2 - But BioShock is more polished in every way imaginable. Remember the chill you got when you came up against your first Big Daddy??

Slate
11-05-2007, 12:12 AM
I agree, RE4, while being a good game and all, wasnt scary at all.

The chainsaw guys proved that RE4 IS scary.

roushimsx
11-05-2007, 12:14 AM
Pretty neat list, though I pretty firmly disagree with both Resident Evil and Eternal Darkness. Resident Evil suffered from being more campy than scary while Eternal Darkness just felt like a trashy horror comic book miniseries turned into a half baked game.

Shame Thief didn't make the cut, because even before you make it to the truly scary supernatural stuff, you're putting up with intense, suspenseful sneaking and thieving. Once the supernatural themes start kicking in (and not just with the zombies early on, but with the ghosts and such) then it gets even more intense than System Shock 2. I could finish System Shock 2, but I've yet to be able to bring myself to finish Thief (and it came out a good deal beforehand).

But hey, they included Undying, and that outweighs any other complaints and criticisms I could think of. Undying wasn't just a freaky game, it was also a damn good one that tanked way, way harder than any game deserves to (especially such a good one) :(

stimmyjimmel
11-05-2007, 12:25 AM
I never did play system shock 2 so i can't say anything about it, but yeah i have to agree that Bioshock does indeed have quite the creepy atmoshphere.

Also i will concede that RE4 did have some "Oh SHIT" moments (The first Regenerator for example) but i still dont feel that it was all that creepy as a whole.

WiseSalesman
11-05-2007, 12:38 AM
Out of the list, only Alone in the Dark, Eternal Darkness, Silent Hill, and F.E.A.R actually scared me. Undying? Doom 3? Please.

Also, having just recently completed Bioshock, I have to say I didn't really find it scary. The one part that was a bit unnerving? The audio diaries near the surgeon's room. If you've played it you know what I'm talking about. I haven't played System Shock 2 quite yet (it's in my backlog, so I'll probably get to it sometime in 2010) so I can't really say anything about it one way or the other.

Additionally, I'm going to throw my hat into the ring on RE4 - i'm in the "great game, but not scary game" camp on that one.

exit
11-05-2007, 01:19 AM
I'll have to agree with everyone else, while it was a bad ass game, Resident Evil 4 was hardly scary at all when compared to others in the series. I'm glad to see that Alone in the Dark got mentioned, since it's usually overshadowed by Resident Evil as the original survival horror.

I'm disappointed to see that Half Life didn't make the cut, I remember first playing it not knowing what I got myself into and the game scared the shit out of me.

These kinds of lists are usually halfassed anyway, so it's best to never take them seriously.

Push Upstairs
11-05-2007, 02:19 AM
When I saw the letters I G & N used together and immediately knew the list was invalid.

Promophile
11-05-2007, 04:46 AM
Resident Evil 4 is not even on the list. 7th Guest, and 2 Fatal Frames are apparantely better than RE4.


Will someone please tell these dumbasses what a "video game" is....

I'm going to have to disagree with you here. As others have said we're not rating games on how "good" they are, but how scary they are. In terms or horror Fatal Frame 1-3 are so far above RE4 it's not funny. Psychological horror is so much deeper. You need to feel powerless, and both SH and FF are good at that.

By coincidence I was on Youtube a few minutes ago and watched a few "top X scariest games" clips, one from GameTrailers and one from Gamespy. I'm amazed with how many FPS type games make it onto these lists. The Suffering, for example, has a lot of scary moments, but loses it's scariness halfway through when your mowing down wave after wave of demons with giant chainguns.

jajaja
11-05-2007, 05:03 AM
Good to see Undying on the list, i remember that game being pretty scary :) I'm alittle suprised that they didnt mention Phantasmagoria tho. I havnt played it myself, but its suppose to be really scary.

Wolfrider31
11-05-2007, 11:22 AM
The chainsaw guys proved that RE4 IS scary.

Speaking of Chainsaw guys, remember the dudes from Zombies Ate My Neighbours? The first time a friend of mine and I entered "Chainsaw Hedgemaze Mayhem" we were completely unprepared for them. "Hahaha, oh look at that silly fat man with a chain saw on the other side of the hedge. Ooooh scary." *Chainsaw man slices through the hedge and starts chasing us* "Oh shit! Kill him! Kill him!" "I can't! Gah! He won't die! I'm out of ammo!" "Dammit! Last resort: go little blow up clown doll thingies go!"

And every time you heard the chainsaw rev up? *shudders*

Also, where is ClockTower 3 on that list? That was TENSE.

diskoboy
11-05-2007, 01:21 PM
I'm disappointed to see that Half Life didn't make the cut, I remember first playing it not knowing what I got myself into and the game scared the shit out of me.

THANK YOU!!! Someone else realized Half Life was also left off the list. Half Life 1 was genuinely scary. Half Life 2 seemed a little more dystopian than scary... But it had it's moments.

MegaDrive20XX
11-05-2007, 02:27 PM
As much as I love "The 7th Guest"...I wish he could have mentioned "The 11th Hour". The game still rattles my brain when it comes to sloving insane puzzles.

DOOM 3 however...no...but thank god they mentioned CONDEMNED on 360. Brilliant game by far.

Silent Hill 2? It's not as scary as Silent Hill 1 or 4 imho. Mainly because SH2 had such a depth storyline that I focused on more so than the scary aspects.

Borman
11-05-2007, 02:32 PM
The chainsaw guys proved that RE4 IS scary.

To me, that felt like a cheap halloween thrill, it wasnt scary.

robotriot
11-05-2007, 03:01 PM
Imo, System Shock 2 is still the scariest game for me today. In fact, I was so scared, that I couldn't play it to the end. Bioshock on the other hand didn't scare me at all. Other scary games for me which I remember right now were Doom 3 (yes, maybe I'm lame, but I was startled a couple of times in that game), Eternal Darkness (the bathtub) and Silent Hill 2. I think atmospheric sounds play a major role in making a game scary.

YoshiM
11-05-2007, 03:12 PM
I'm alittle suprised that they didnt mention Phantasmagoria tho. I havnt played it myself, but its suppose to be really scary.

It's not really that scary. Most of the game (if memory serves) is investigation/exploring. Toward the end you get to see how some things happened and have to go through a part that's intense but not really scary. The effects are pretty grisly, like when your character gets offed by having her head crushed/pulled apart.

200609
11-05-2007, 03:47 PM
Being afraid your character will die in a boss fight doesn't constitute "scary". "Scary" is unsettling, it's looking behind you when you play a game or watch a movie, it's not "oh shit oh shit, I ran out of ammo and I can't escape." I'm actually very happy RE4 didn't make the list. I was getting kind of sick of hearing how good it was anyway (I agree that it's good, it's anything but horrific though). When SH first came out, I was 12, and that game freaked the hell out of me. 8 years later, or a month ago to be exact, I played through it, and while it wasn't quite the same (a 12 year old's fear is different from that of a 20 year old's I guess), it was still unsettling.

As with any list, there will always be "should'ves and shouldn't haves." Maybe the whole problem with the list is that we don't all agree on what's "scary". To be honest, Doom 3 wasn't "scary" by my definition (i.e. unsettling, look behind you scary), but it did have me on the edge of my seat throughout most of it.

Ed Oscuro
11-05-2007, 04:58 PM
Shame Thief didn't make the cut, because even before you make it to the truly scary supernatural stuff, you're putting up with intense, suspenseful sneaking and thieving.
Hell yes. Kicking myself now for forgetting Thief.

Resident Evil's REmake was a huge improvement over the original, and manages to be scary (I guess) on a level with RE4 at the least.

Condemned I can agree with. DOOM III...eh. Well, yeah, I guess.

Robotriot: Even in 1999, SS2 was pure comedy for me 99% of the time. The rest of the time was probably the tedium of needing to find the ingredients for toxins. Bioshock I've just played the demo of, but it seems a good deal more intense.

sabre2922
11-06-2007, 08:56 AM
Additionally, I'm going to throw my hat into the ring on RE4 - i'm in the "great game, but not scary game" camp on that one.

agreed

I still play RE4 to this day and its one of my favorite games and RE4 is a GREAT game but RE4 is not scary! Thats not to say that Re4 doesnt have a great suspenseful atmosphere and all.

For the most part the IGN list wasnt bad and I doubt it is too be taken too seriously as it was mostly posted for the Halloween holiday.

The Silent Hill list is all fucked up though as Silent Hill 3 and Silent Hill 1 are the most "SCARY" of the series as of right now.

While I luv SH2 and its excellent storyline its just overrated by gamers that have never played any other Silent Hill games other than Silent Hill 2 and Im sure that includes the majority of the IGN staff.

Silent Hill 3 is truly the most horrific of the SH series and SH1 is close behind it and is a very intense and actual Scary game!

Hell even Silent Hill 4 is more scary than SH2.

The Fatal Frame series is also much more scary than any of the REs although REmake was actually scary at times.

heybtbm
11-06-2007, 09:14 AM
I think a bunch of you have forgotten your first playthrough of RE4. The chanting cult members sneaking up behind you in the castle...that was scary. I remember having to take a break every so often because of how stressful the game was the first time through (low ammo, shitty pea-shooter weapons, not knowing what's behind each corner).

The roar of the chainsaw, the dogs charging you from the other side of the hedge maze, the regenerators breathing around a corner, iron maidens...all that shit was scary. I don't care how tough you guys want to pretend you are...RE4 had it's tense, scary moments.

Promophile
11-06-2007, 10:25 AM
I think a bunch of you have forgotten your first playthrough of RE4. The chanting cult members sneaking up behind you in the castle...that was scary. I remember having to take a break every so often because of how stressful the game was the first time through (low ammo, shitty pea-shooter weapons, not knowing what's behind each corner).

The roar of the chainsaw, the dogs charging you from the other side of the hedge maze, the regenerators breathing around a corner, iron maidens...all that shit was scary. I don't care how tough you guys want to pretend you are...RE4 had it's tense, scary moments.

Yeah, RE4 had tense moments, but Leon is just waaay too much of a bad-ass for me to be scared. The fluid controls or, more specifically, the free-form aiming made battle so much easier than previous RE games, and ammo and healing items were much too plentiful. I breezed through normal and professional mode dying maybe once or twice.

For a game to be "survival horror" for me, I need to feel that my character is in danger all the time. Games like SH or FF do that because I have no clue whats going to happen next. When will I hear that siren and what will happen when the world goes dark?

gepeto
11-06-2007, 02:00 PM
Man that list was very good. The undying man that was on underated scarefest. If you haven't played it you owe it to yourself.

I tried playing silent hill 2 It was a little to quiet for me but every mag list this as one scary game. I have to go back and replay it. The first one had me when thos crawling babies started coming at me.

jajaja
11-13-2007, 07:07 PM
It's not really that scary. Most of the game (if memory serves) is investigation/exploring. Toward the end you get to see how some things happened and have to go through a part that's intense but not really scary. The effects are pretty grisly, like when your character gets offed by having her head crushed/pulled apart.

Ah ok. I havnt played it myself so i dunno, but from what i've seen some of the enviorment looks really creepy.

rkotm
11-13-2007, 08:42 PM
The RE4 chainsaw women were freaky. It was more suspenseful and yeah at some point in the castle after they try to take ashley away it got...silly. RE3 had one scary and suspenseful part(s):Nemesis. Here i am walking around, and boom. Out of nowhere. Comdened screwed with me. Some parts were laughable, but the empty department store. wow. On Doom for PSX the first Cyberdemon level. The music..id fought him before, but the symbolism of the goats and wide environment..then the footsteps.

Also Doom 64, the level Cat and Mouse, with the (I believe) 3 cyberdemons, while i hid, i never wanted to come out of my hiding area.