KNURDZ to sell entire OlderGames.com division...

[rwbivins]

Hello,

Thanks to everyone for all their support over the years. We will continue
business as KNURDZ Entertainment Group. After careful and lengthy
consideration we have decided it is best to focus on our largescale
projects. In doing so we have been considering the idea of selling
OlderGames in it's entirety. This will not affect pre-orders of our
new releases or pending sales of our products. All pre-orders for
our new Frog Feast editions will be shipping today.

It is with a heavy heart that myself, my colleagues, and our
company take our final bow today and move on to bigger things.
We look forward to our future with KNURDZ. And will always remember
the good times. If we find another company to purchase the
OG assets you can expect great things. There were, and are many
pending projects in our portfolio and with a strong focus and new
leadership, OlderGames will become stronger than ever.

For more information visit:
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=577726

Thank you for the years of memories,

RW BIVINS
CO-FOUNDER OF OLDERGAMES.COM

[InsaneDavid]

Singin' go on, take the money and run...

[rwbivins]

Singin' go on, take the money and run...

I'm not sure if you are trying to insult me or not. Keep in mind we have
a large portfolio and many publishing deals in place not to mention many thousands
of dollars in assets. We are not "cashing in" we are "cashing out" and will only sell
the division off to a serious buyer who is intent on devoting time, and effort that
we simply can not manage to do anymore.

It's better for the company, better for the community, and better for us.

[udisi]

If I'm reading this right, you're looking to sell off the retro game publishing wing of your company. I've read about this KNURDZ, but don't know what exactly KNURDZ is suppose to be. Is it a blog....or just information website. If you're selling the publishing company, what is KNURDZ going to do?

[rwbivins]

If I'm reading this right, you're looking to sell off the retro game publishing wing of your company. I've read about this KNURDZ, but don't know what exactly KNURDZ is suppose to be. Is it a blog....or just information website. If you're selling the publishing company, what is KNURDZ going to do?

KNURDZ will have several key projects such as it's gaming infobase which we
are trying to launch before the end of the year. It also has key technologies
such as enigma, pathquest, k3 / nexis etc... for development which were internally
developed. We plan to expand into licensing middleware and developing current-gen
IP's as a development focused organization.

[Sweater Fish Deluxe]

Did you take some sort of class in this empty hand-waving business-speak or do you just write this way naturally?


...word is bondage...

[rwbivins]

Did you take some sort of class in this empty hand-waving business-speak or do you just write this way naturally?


...word is bondage...

LOL! :)

[YoshiM]

So how does this affect the Video Games Media Archive? That one of the things being sold with Oldergames or is KNURDZ going to continue this?

[rwbivins]

So how does this affect the Video Games Media Archive? That one of the things being sold with Oldergames or is KNURDZ going to continue this?

At this time we are open to negotiate any of the KNURDZ / OG co-branded products.
Honestly we saw the archive as a release to co-promote the knurdz.com infobase
but I have no problem letting it go either.

[Moo Cow]

I'm not sure if you are trying to insult me or not. Keep in mind we have
a large portfolio and many publishing deals in place not to mention many thousands
of dollars in assets. We are not "cashing in" we are "cashing out" and will only sell
the division off to a serious buyer who is intent on devoting time, and effort that
we simply can not manage to do anymore.

It's better for the company, better for the community, and better for us.

It's a quote from the song Take the Money and Run by The Steve Miller Band.
But, good luck with everything.

[YoshiM]

At this time we are open to negotiate any of the KNURDZ / OG co-branded products.
Honestly we saw the archive as a release to co-promote the knurdz.com infobase
but I have no problem letting it go either.

So pretty much no chance of a quality re-release of Volume 1, eh?

[portnoyd]

That's a KSHAME.

[InsaneDavid]

Man, you would have made a killing during the dotcom boom, with all your tactics of selling thin air.

[Vectorman0]

The reason you are getting flack is due to what I would summarize as "shady business practice" I have (seemingly along with others) come to associate you/OlderGames.com with here on the forums. I can't speak for other people, but it is certainly how I see it.

The first thing that comes to mind would be your "CGE exclusives" that you decided to make not exclusive at all. (I would make a link referencing to where this happened, however the CGE forum is currently hibernating and is inaccessible)

The second, and worst thing that comes to mind is the bootleg of Three Dirty Dwarves you decided to lie about and call an "early development stage" (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=105821).

And as previously mentioned, whatever happened to making the Video Game Media Archive "right"? You mentioned being set on doing so and standing by it: here (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1226706&postcount=3) and here (http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1226728&postcount=6).

Looking at the above, InsaneDavid's first post in the thread seems quite fitting.

[digitalpress]

I noticed it in my myspace.com bulletins and followed the links to this forum thread:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=577726

Seems as though this established (and in my humble opinion, diligent) retro-game publisher is moving on to other things.

If I had any kind of "real" money I'd pony up and make an offer on the business license and its unfulfilled projects. Hopefully someone (or ones) with an eye for this niche customer base and a fair deal of pocket change will step up.

Curious to hear your thoughts.

[YoshiM]

While I don't have the pocket change, I'd LIKE to redo the Video Archive personally. I'm no Phosphor Dot Fossils but I've got the software and video editing experience to at least do a pretty decent job. I LOVE the concept of having these views of pop culture be preserved but at rwbivins stated in a thread from August (after I reviewed it) it just didn't come out that way.

I wouldn't want to be paid, I'd just get the video out to those who bought the DVD somehow. Make it right.

[udisi]

Rwbivins actually posted here a few days ago

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109642

seems like most of the feedback has been kinda negative.

[Kitsune Sniper]

Kinda? I'm surprised that topic hasn't been locked yet.

Joe, your forum link isn't working for me for some reason.

[PapaStu]

Kinda? I'm surprised that topic hasn't been locked yet.

Joe, your forum link isn't working for me for some reason.

I tried earlier and from the message I got when I clicked on it, the forum itself loaded but the forum was in some kind of temporary limbo. Now the whole forum is down.

I had been looking for the thread, thanks udusi for posting the link.

and with that go go merge power!

[kedawa]

Frog Feast LOL

[MachineGex]

I have a few questions for you all...
What is something like this worth? How would you continue to find/release future titles? Would it be worth a few members buying it? My guess is you would have to fix the above mentioned problems first.

[Bojay1997]

The real issue here is that in my opinion, the business has no value. Despite what this guy has claimed over the past few years, I have never seen any evidence that he has legitimate licensing deals with anyone with the exception of the guy who developed Frog Feast. Simply obtaining prototypes and then deciding to repackage them in poorly made photoshopped cases and then charging for them is little more than piracy. His own financial breakdowns on his site makes it clear that he's not paying any licensing fees to anyone for his releases. I hope nobody actually makes a serious offer for this "business".

[Raven1280]

Does this mean games are nolonger for sale? I still needed 2 more of the 3do games!

[rwbivins]

The real issue here is that in my opinion, the business has no value. Despite what this guy has claimed over the past few years, I have never seen any evidence that he has legitimate licensing deals with anyone with the exception of the guy who developed Frog Feast.

That's because you are a moron and spend too much time jumping to conclusions.
What kind of idiot would post private contracts between two companies publicly?

The records on the site are also incomplete and very outdated.

I told you this... what... two months ago?... If I remember correctly it went
something along the lines of "even though you are nobody and have no ties to
my company... if you are SO INCLINED sign an NDA and I'll shove it in your
face so you can shut up." Of course you shut up, and declined my offer because
as I have known for years, you are a whiny little douchebag who knows everything
about nothing.

Seriously... fuck off already.

Thats it... I'm done. It's not about the money. I simply don't care anymore
and I have better things to invest my cash and time in. Goodbye Retrogaming.

GOOD BYE

[Playcosm]

Something tells me this is not the way to sell your business. Did you expect people to react different? As long as you don't answer questions seriously, I can understand why people react like this. Your way of working is definately not clear as water...

[Blitzwing256]

Seriously... fuck off already.

Thats it... I'm done. It's not about the money. I simply don't care anymore
and I have better things to invest my cash and time in. Goodbye Retrogaming.

GOOD BYE


Awww! he took his ball and went home :-(

[Sniderman]

Well, this thread is pretty much over.

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