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tmc
12-04-2007, 01:54 PM
What videogame magazine could be considered to be the worldwide most respected by the industry and public alike?

Coming from England i'd say that we're often being led to believe that it is EDGE magazine, however, whilst i do think this is probably the case in terms of the magazines i've read i have very little knowledge of international magazines, or indeed what is the thoughts of those inside the industry itself.

Is their an American publication or any other for that reason that could make that claim? (ok so EDGE dosn't make this claim itself but i think it likes to think it is the most respected magazine).

I've recently started to listen to a lot of the 1up podcasts and i'm taken aback by the level of professionalism, maturity and seriousness of the contributors. Maybe it's my own predjudice but i never thought mainstream videogame journalism in America managed to get out on that level or had a market for that sort of tone.

just a few thoughts, any of your own?

Nebagram
12-04-2007, 02:19 PM
Much as I like Edge, I've got to believe that up until 2000, CVG was the absolute Big Daddy of videogames mags. Any mag that can run a Street Fighter Alpha 2 moves list... twice... is the proverbial mutt's.

Poofta!
12-04-2007, 02:21 PM
im not really sure... id like to believe that EGM is that sort of magazine, but a lot of people (many on these forums as well) believe that the magazine has dropped in quality significantly in the last 10 or so years. personally i like EGM.

i believe GameInformer is probably the last worthwhile magazine in the states.

also to me, PCGamer is the absolute best but its pc only obviously, and i think the quality definately dropped after Rob Smith left (i loved gary whitta too, and of course greg vederman) however i know the UK version is just as great (if not arguably better?)

16-bit
12-04-2007, 02:37 PM
What videogame magazine could be considered to be the worldwide most respected by the industry and public alike?

Coming from England i'd say that we're often being led to believe that it is EDGE magazine, however, whilst i do think this is probably the case in terms of the magazines i've read i have very little knowledge of international magazines, or indeed what is the thoughts of those inside the industry itself.

Is their an American publication or any other for that reason that could make that claim? (ok so EDGE dosn't make this claim itself but i think it likes to think it is the most respected magazine).

I've recently started to listen to a lot of the 1up podcasts and i'm taken aback by the level of professionalism, maturity and seriousness of the contributors. Maybe it's my own predjudice but i never thought mainstream videogame journalism in America managed to get out on that level or had a market for that sort of tone.

just a few thoughts, any of your own?

I would agree with your assement. The only magazines I subscribe to are UK based ones: Economist, Elle Decoration UK (my wife), and Retro Gamer (actually I don't subscribe, but I buy every issue).

MrSparkle
12-04-2007, 02:48 PM
back in the day i was all about gamepro, nintendo power, and egm these days i dont even bother picking up gaming mags as they really lost some of their magic since the early days.

Poofta!
12-04-2007, 02:54 PM
gamepro and nintendo power have got to be the most childish and biased crap out there. especially gamepro, i wouldnt even take a free subscription of it when offered a while back.

monkeysuit
12-04-2007, 03:51 PM
Personally I don't even bother with most of the magazines that are available today. I feel that online content has far surpassed anything that you could get out of a magazine these days. When I want reviews, news, previews, etc. I just pull up Joystiq, Kotaku, or 1up.

I really do wish that there was a magazine out there that truly "got it" how the old EGM did.

diskoboy
12-04-2007, 06:41 PM
No magazine will EVER be better than the original Electronic Games.

Trebuken
12-04-2007, 08:08 PM
Computer Gaming World, espeacially the older issues was always my favorite. Today I like Game Informer, but it's obviously being twisted by Gamestop. I also like Play though I seem to be in the minority there. Hardcore Gamer is fun, but usually late to the table.

I subscribe to a bunch, but most come off as the same thing...

Half Japanese
12-04-2007, 10:38 PM
I like Play too, and here's why: Play is an enthusiast magazine. It's very clear that everyone who works for the mag eats, sleeps, shits and breathes games. On the downside, they really need an editor who's worth a shit. Rampant spelling mistakes, bad grammar, missing author credits, etc. abound. They also aren't afraid to go balls-out doing a huge feature and interview on a game that probably won't light up the charts. Some people read this as being up for sale to the highest bidder, but with some of the cover stories they've had, it'd be hard to argue that the publishers had the funds to pony up for a cover story. If you give me a choice between the slick, corporate mag versus the sloppy-but-genuine enthusiast mag, I'll take the underdog any day of the week, it's in my DNA somewhere.

I also agree that Game Informer is pretty good. I just started getting it again as a result of the evil Gamestop card, and it's probably the best of the rags with a decent circulation. The only thing I hate about it, and it's a nitpick more than anything, are the stupid-ass nicknames the editors give themselves: "The Original Gamer," "The Game Katana," etc. Blech.

There was a time in the late 90s and early 00s when I thought EGM was pretty decent, back before they felt like they had to be smartasses about everything and hire Seanbaby to write the same tired shit about the same crap games month after month.

I didn't pick up Tips & Tricks on a regular basis, but I already sort of miss it. T&T felt like Play, more like an enthusiast magazine than one put out by the empire that twat built (Larry Flynt Publishing). The regular articles devoted to collecting, game-related comics and figures were awesome. I think if they would have dropped the codes section in this age of few to no codes and started reviewing and previewing more, they might have survived.

Sorry to be so long-winded, I used to pick up game mags almost religiously in the 90s and early 00s.

j_factor
12-04-2007, 10:51 PM
Back in the day, Next Generation totally fit that description. They were the best magazine in terms of writing real informative stuff, and they had an air about them that they were that one step above everything else. They had the most "real" content, rather than EGM and GamePro's "this game sucks! this game rules!" nonsense.

Strictly for the industry, there is a magazine called Game Developer that has a good reputation. But it's not very widely available, and way too technical for the average gamer.

kazuo
12-04-2007, 10:58 PM
None, they're all shills, whoring themselves out.

Push Upstairs
12-04-2007, 11:48 PM
gamepro and nintendo power have got to be the most childish and biased crap out there. especially gamepro, i wouldnt even take a free subscription of it when offered a while back.

I can't speak for today, but the early 90's Gamepro and their puns....ugh.

G-Boobie
12-05-2007, 02:28 AM
I have a soft spot for EGM for sure. I also think that Games For Windows is pretty well done.

Game Informer is shit as far as reviews and 'objective journalism' go, but because they're owned and operated by Gamestop, they have the absolute best previews outside of the internet.

All of course in my opinion.

spoon
12-05-2007, 03:11 AM
I like Play too, and here's why: Play is an enthusiast magazine. It's very clear that everyone who works for the mag eats, sleeps, shits and breathes games. On the downside, they really need an editor who's worth a shit. Rampant spelling mistakes, bad grammar, missing author credits, etc. abound. They also aren't afraid to go balls-out doing a huge feature and interview on a game that probably won't light up the charts. Some people read this as being up for sale to the highest bidder, but with some of the cover stories they've had, it'd be hard to argue that the publishers had the funds to pony up for a cover story. If you give me a choice between the slick, corporate mag versus the sloppy-but-genuine enthusiast mag, I'll take the underdog any day of the week, it's in my DNA somewhere.

I also agree that Game Informer is pretty good. I just started getting it again as a result of the evil Gamestop card, and it's probably the best of the rags with a decent circulation. The only thing I hate about it, and it's a nitpick more than anything, are the stupid-ass nicknames the editors give themselves: "The Original Gamer," "The Game Katana," etc. Blech.

There was a time in the late 90s and early 00s when I thought EGM was pretty decent, back before they felt like they had to be smartasses about everything and hire Seanbaby to write the same tired shit about the same crap games month after month.

I didn't pick up Tips & Tricks on a regular basis, but I already sort of miss it. T&T felt like Play, more like an enthusiast magazine than one put out by the empire that twat built (Larry Flynt Publishing). The regular articles devoted to collecting, game-related comics and figures were awesome. I think if they would have dropped the codes section in this age of few to no codes and started reviewing and previewing more, they might have survived.

Sorry to be so long-winded, I used to pick up game mags almost religiously in the 90s and early 00s.

I absolutely agree here.

I really feel that people mistake the fact that each writer assigned to a game in Play actually likes/understands the genre the game falls under. I hate when other mags seem to hand some guy who plays nothing but Madden a copy of a game like Killer 7 and says "Review". Also, it is a breath of fresh air to see a mag to a story/give coverage to something other than the same old shit in every other mag. I just really enjoy the fact that a lot of their reviews seem to reflect the same way I feel about a game and address what I want to know. The mag truly does have that enthusiasts feel. sadly, as stated it has some enthusiasts production values/mistakes.

GI is also pretty damn good considering the fact that it is pretty much given away if you spend enough or buy discount card at GS/EB. There is some crap and a lot of ads. They do cover some games that other mags don't.

T&T was turning into something awesome when the plug was pulled. I still can't believe how much was being crammed in there each month. It was gonna be awesome.I could feel it.

EGM is awful. I remember when it was a pretty cool mag. I can't believe I have a paid sub until '09. I really dislike the staff. Shoe is an idiot.

I also can't stand the "Adverttorials" mags were running for awhile that look like articles but are actually ads. Bullshit.

FantasiaWHT
12-05-2007, 07:57 AM
Of all time, older EGMs. Nowadays? Game Informer. I can't stand Play... I used to realize it until I realized that they gave glowing reviews to every underdog game, no matter how much it sucked. I remember buying Magna Carta wholly on their attention to it. Man was it a pile.

fcw3
12-05-2007, 08:36 AM
I've recently started to listen to a lot of the 1up podcasts and i'm taken aback by the level of professionalism, maturity and seriousness of the contributors.

1UP is EGM.

I've recently dropped my subscription to EGM for just the reasons listed above. And I had been a subscriber since issue #3.

I thought EGM really started its descent when, what was that guys name ?, John Davison ? took over editorial (and I use that term loosely) duties. He and the current staff, seem to think we're are more interested in them than we are about games. The "personality" of the staff really comes through and it seems these people are about 12.

In going for more of an "adult" market, why did they feel the need to act less mature ? The language and comments had me restrict access to the magazine from my video game loving, pre-teen son.

The last straw for me was a picture of one of the staff members with a gun pointed to his head in his little bio section before the reviews. I knew I only had an issue or two left on my subscription and promptly threw away each request to re-subscribe.

I wonder what the original editor (Ed Semrad?) thinks of the current incarnation ?

FRED

zemmix
12-05-2007, 10:24 AM
For games I like EGM, GI, games for windows and pc gamer. Thats about it thats out now in the US at least. I used to love Next-Gen. I still have all of my old Next-Gen issues in storage somewhere.

I still like reading the mags because I often find out about games/stuff that I wouldn't have known about otherwise. Like the game Saboteur that Pandemic is working on.

Icarus Moonsight
12-06-2007, 10:56 AM
GI I'd say is most improved overall. It's a pretty good mag these days. Actually one of the best... scary.

My favorite of all time was Gamers Republic. I still miss it. *tear*

Emuaust
12-06-2007, 01:38 PM
The only mags I read are retro gamer and an Aussie mag Called Hyper, I also buy PC Powerplay another Aussie mag.

Hyper and PC Powerplay are the only mags I read for the simple fact they tend to be the least bias reviewers.

mailman187666
12-06-2007, 01:48 PM
I've always bought the Playstation mag and the XBOX mag just to see what was comming soon and for the demo disks inside. I haven't bought either of those mags in a very long time. I don't even know if they have a Playstation mag anymore.

spoon
12-06-2007, 01:49 PM
Of all time, older EGMs. Nowadays? Game Informer. I can't stand Play... I used to realize it until I realized that they gave glowing reviews to every underdog game, no matter how much it sucked. I remember buying Magna Carta wholly on their attention to it. Man was it a pile.

I was actually going to mention this game as play did a big cover on it and the game ended up blowing. What I was going to mention was how in a later issue they actually addressed why this game ended up sucking.

It was nice to see a VG mag explain why they did a cover on a game and also explain why the game ended up not being as good as they had thought it would.

FlufflePuff
12-06-2007, 02:15 PM
My vote would be to Game Informer. I have a subscription to EGM, but I hardly read it anymore. GI does seem to be a bit biased from time to time, but for what's out there it is the best read IMO.

Snapple
12-06-2007, 02:48 PM
I think magazines in general are way worse than they used to be. First of all, now we can get preview and review content quicker on the internet. Back in the day, magazines were the end-all, be-all, and I respected that. I loved my Nintendo Power for like the first 100 issues (except for the reviews, but they weren't the focus of the magazine). I had Game Pro and EGM subscriptions, too. And I have to say, Game Pro has fallen harder than anyone. They are just complete garbage now. I used to really, really like their reviews around the mid-90s. And some of those issues were freaking huge, like 150 pages. You got your money's worth. Now, it's just a flimsy little magazine with little content between all the ads.

EGM is still decent, and I also have a subscription to Game Informer. Neither are particularly important to me anymore, but they're toilet material. I think GI's strength is still what it has been for the last decade plus, which is previews. They are unmatched in preview content. I think EGM kind of wins for reviews, but only by default.

The thing that bugs me about EGM reviews, and other magazines who do this, is when they get multiple reviewers for the same game, but everyone gives roughly the same score. What's the point of giving a different perspective, if everyone has the same perspective? Nobody in the real world agrees on every single game, but you look at EGM, and every game has both scores within 0.5 of each other.

MonoTekETeA
12-06-2007, 03:25 PM
I enjoy Hardcore Gamer and Computer Games Magazine. I don't know if Computer Games is still around, but there is something about that magazine that just clicked with me. As for Hardcore, the group that does it is cool, and I like Double Jump publications.

Ed Oscuro
12-06-2007, 04:07 PM
DP! (I assume we mean "integrity" by respect; I swear by the online guide's rarity sections, although I usually mentally adjust the prices given a bit)

sirhansirhan
12-06-2007, 06:42 PM
I agree with those who said that GI's previews are good, but the rest of the magazine is embarrassingly stupid, bad, generic, and just about everything else you can say that is bad about a video game magazine. The 11/07 issue was particularly offensive in its stupidity and closed-mindedness.

My favorite video game magazine (for now, at least) is Hardcore Gamer, by a long shot.

cyberfluxor
12-06-2007, 07:12 PM
Strictly for the industry, there is a magazine called Game Developer that has a good reputation. But it's not very widely available, and way too technical for the average gamer.
I've been tempted to subscribe to their prints for over a year now but still have no true idea of how their magazine flows. How in depth are their reviews, information about the software or interviews with coders? I really wish there'd be a retailer around here with a few issues.

Nick Goracke
12-07-2007, 12:32 AM
I wonder what the original editor (Ed Semrad?) thinks of the current incarnation ?


Here's a good quote from a former EGM staffer:

"During the time I worked at EGM, I never saw Ed Semrad pick up a controller, hold a joystick, or play a game. Not once."

http://homepage.mac.com/chris_johnston/C1662594604/index.html

I think it's safe to say he couldn't care less what direction it went after he cashed out. ;)

Fanboy
12-07-2007, 02:19 PM
While I saw mention of Edge, why is there no love for the award winning Games™? It's my pick for best current games magazine. It is nearly devoid of game advertisements (although they seem to make up the slack with phone sex ads every now and then), so they sidestep the whole advertising content vs. editorial independence morass that seems to tar all North American magazines.

Not afraid to look at the gaming scene in North America and Japan, interviews with people within the industry and multi-page looks at some of the issues within the industry, it's the clearest successor to Next Generation that I've found. And, yes, I know that NextGen was the NA version of Edge, I just find Games™ more NextGen-like than Edge.

In the past, Next Generation (obviously) and Electronic Games (the second incarnation) would be my favourites to look back upon.

Jimmy Yakapucci
12-07-2007, 03:09 PM
One magazine that I used to read and enjoy, while not entirely a gaming magazine, was PC Accelerator. That was one magazine that was not afraid to call a turd a turd. Unlike some magazines that have their token "bad" game each month. With them it was like, "we review whatever we get, good or bad." The complaint that some people had about the magazine was about their more "adult" content. In response to that, they ran an article comparing themselves to some "women's" magazines as far as the number of "butt", "cleavage", and "nipple" pictures. They came in last behind Cosmo, Vogue, and some other "women's" magazines.

JY

tmc
12-07-2007, 03:14 PM
Just remembered Uk magazine 'ARCADE'anyone remember that one. It finished a few years ago now but it was a great publication.

ROTS MKII
12-07-2007, 03:37 PM
Play Magazine.



Everybody else seems to be sapped out

BydoEmpire
12-07-2007, 05:12 PM
1UP is EGM.

I've recently dropped my subscription to EGM for just the reasons listed above. And I had been a subscriber since issue #3.

I thought EGM really started its descent when, what was that guys name ?, John Davison ? took over editorial (and I use that term loosely) duties. He and the current staff, seem to think we're are more interested in them than we are about games. The "personality" of the staff really comes through and it seems these people are about 12.

In going for more of an "adult" market, why did they feel the need to act less mature ?Wow, you took the words right out of my mouth. I wasn't a subscriber back in the day, but I did buy it pretty regularly (I still have the '89 and '90 Buyer's guide). I started subscribing in the mid 90s, and finally cancelled my subscription for pretty much the same reasons this year. And they (i.e. the gaming print punditry) wonder why games aren't taken seriously as a medium.

Nintendo Power is the only gaming mag I still get. They revamped it a few years ago, and it's a quality, fun read. Obviously I take any 1st party publication's reviews with a grain of salt, but I enjoy the style and writing of the magazine as a whole.


I've been tempted to subscribe to their prints for over a year now but still have no true idea of how their magazine flows. How in depth are their reviews, information about the software or interviews with coders? I really wish there'd be a retailer around here with a few issues.They don't do reviews of games. They do have occasionally interesting post-mortems, editorials about various topics, and technical articles for programming, art and audio development. PM me and I'll send you a few back issues.

diskoboy
12-07-2007, 05:50 PM
Wow.. No love for Electronic Games??

I think I'm gonna sit in the corner and cry for a while. Please excuse me....

:*(

This whole topic makes me feel old (no offense to the OP and to all who have replied..)

DreamTR
12-07-2007, 05:55 PM
spoon wrote:
" T&T was turning into something awesome when the plug was pulled. I still can't believe how much was being crammed in there each month. It was gonna be awesome. I could feel it. "

I have to disagree with you about this one, it lost its identity a long time ago when they started going all scatterbrained in the last 6-8 months or so. The magazine never decided what it wanted to become: a niche magazine for kids under 16 with codes, previews, strategies, and other goodies, or geared towards the "Mature" gamer.

There was a way to do both, but advertisers are going to run screaming if they feel that you are indeed a kids' magazine, hence part of the changes in the first place.

Codes were what sold the magazine, plain and simple. You could stick 50 pages of toilet paper in there, and just 20 pages of codes, and it would still sell the same, which is exactly the Tips & Tricks Codebook is still published 6 times a year.

The internet really has changed the way everyone gets their news. There really is no point to game magazines these days because of the long leadtimes unless there is some sort of exclusive to print, which is rare in this day and age.

I still peruse Game Informer, EGM, Gamepro, and Nintendo Power randomly, but I don't really get excited about any of them. All the layouts are way to the extreme, and Play Magazine may be for gamers, it's still got too much stuff I don't want see/read about (anime), but I would rather take old Game Player's Magazines any days of the week (and Nintendo Power) over anything current.

RCM
12-07-2007, 08:44 PM
I don't really like any publications/prosites. I read em just for the news. I do like N'Gai Croal's blog, probably the best game journo around right now. I got to speak with him a few weeks ago and have a few mutual friends, highly recommended.

HYB
12-08-2007, 04:40 AM
I don't know that much about international mags but one mag that has always, since the early days of videogaming, been good here is pelit (games). I read some issues a while back from the 80's when it was still a small publication and I enjoyed those as much as I do the new ones, the quality has stayed the same ever since in my opinion. Too bad I don't have a subscription anymore. I think there was one mag called power play in the old days that was pretty good, and of course nintendo power. I used to subscribe to pelimestari (game master) before it was abruptly cancelled and it was mediocore. The other game mag thingamajings are just plain stupid here.

Oh, and I remember a mag in the N64 days. It was the official nintendo one I think and I ocassionally bought it (bejeebus it was expensive). It was good.

DeputyMoniker
12-08-2007, 05:27 AM
Well, I can't speak for anyone but myself but I'm really into Game Informer these days. They seem to have a pretty independent opinion. That's the only one I really look forward to reading. I haven't been reading the others lately so I can't give much of an opinion on them.

j_factor
12-08-2007, 02:27 PM
Has GI changed or something? I see all this praise for it, but... I remember it being the most biased mag out there. I haven't read it in years, but I always thought it was dumb. They would always talk about how PS2 was the already the greatest thing ever devised before the system was even out. I still have the PS2 launch issue somewhere. It smelled of semen from the writers creaming themselves about how much they loved PS2 and how amazing its launch lineup was (lol).

RegSNES
12-08-2007, 03:23 PM
I haven't bought or subscribed to a gaming mag in a long time so I honestly wouldn't know which one would be the most respected these days.

I've only picked up a few issues of Tips & Tricks, but they really seemed to have a handle on things.

Nintendo Power was the first gaming mag I ever touched but they were super biased to Nintendo published games back in the day. Are they still like this?

EGM was my go-to mag back in 1998-2003. 2003 was when they jumped the shark. It all started with that horrible redesign. From there things just continued to decline. Honestly, are they really "The World's #1 Video Game Mag" or whatever it is they put at the top?

Game Informer is a mag I still like, even though I don't always agree with their reviews. They actually write some of the best reviews for bad games I've ever seen. When these guys trash a game, they do it with such style.

tom
12-08-2007, 04:01 PM
Good mags:

Electronic Games (USA)
CGW (USA, best ever)
C&VG (UK)
Antic (USA)
Page 6 (UK)
ZZap!64 (UK)
TeleMatch (German)
ASM (German)
GBX (UK, the only magazine worldwide to give away a free Game Boy cart with 2 games on it)
Ultimate (UK)
Computer Games Magazine Strategy Plus (UK/USA)
The Games machine (UK)
games TM (UK)
Total (UK)
Ace (UK)
Mean Machines (UK, excellent)
Retro Gamer (UK, yes, full of mistakes, but we love it anyway).

Look here for a good selection of console/computer mags:
http://videogamecollectors.com/gallery/album116?page=1


Edge is to far up it's own bottom usually, and those Edge Retro specials are full of mistakes.
Arcade was great, even with the butchered 'Game Over' book give-away.

Mayhem
12-08-2007, 04:12 PM
Yeah I think Arcade was an under appreciated magazine at the time, and definitely was quite good. I'd say best here in the UK during the 80s was Zzap!64 and during the 90s was Superplay. This decade? Not sure...

tom
12-08-2007, 06:22 PM
Yeah I think Arcade was an under appreciated magazine at the time, and definitely was quite good. I'd say best here in the UK during the 80s was Zzap!64 and during the 90s was Superplay. This decade? Not sure...

UK had the best gaming/console/computer magazines IMO. Gosh, I remember when I almost spend GBP 200 ($400) A MONTH just on those magazines (Cheap they weren't, but quality). I think at one stage I purchased 9 different monthly Amiga magazines, plus everything Sega, Nintendo, Atari, C64, Multi, Computer etc....related.
USA mags were good in the 80s, but I think they lost it when EGM turned into a SF II magazine.

tmc
12-08-2007, 07:01 PM
£200 a month! bloody hell!

the arcade david sheff 'Game over' book was honestly one of the best magazine give aways i ever remember - beating the PSX Wipeout soundtrack CD given away by who i can't remember.

I still have that game over book upstairs now, and well read it is too. But butchered you say? by much? i love that book, is it worth buying a full price retail version for the added non-butchered bits?

tom
12-08-2007, 07:15 PM
£200 a month! bloody hell!

the arcade david sheff 'Game over' book was honestly one of the best magazine give aways i ever remember - beating the PSX Wipeout soundtrack CD given away by who i can't remember.

I still have that game over book upstairs now, and well read it is too. But butchered you say? by much? i love that book, is it worth buying a full price retail version for the added non-butchered bits?

It's approx 90 pages missing (1st edition has 445 pages), mostly from the main chapter 'Game Over', and a bit at the end if I remember right. Yes, you have to buy the unbutchered book, as it's one of the most important stories what's missing with the Arcade give-away (btw, it says in the Arcade issue that the book is not the full book). I think later they even tried to flog it off with a sub to N64 magazine.

And it's best to buy the last version of the book (green cover) as it has new chapters by Andy Eddy.

8bitgamer
12-08-2007, 07:29 PM
Anyone else miss the Greatest Game of All Time feature in Game Informer? Granted, it wasn't always well written, but it was usually fun to read about what games people were fawning over.

Griking
12-09-2007, 12:10 AM
My favorite has always been Computer Gaming World. Now that it's been changed to Games For Windows it still seems pretty much the same inside but I feel as if its lost its soul.

swlovinist
12-09-2007, 02:08 AM
I posted in another topic on some of the same things, but here is my short winded rant:

1. I was a subscriber to EGM since issue 9. It saddens me to see what a shell of mag it has turned into. I dont know what is thinner...a hollywood star with a crack habbit or the current issue of EGM

2. Official Xbox Magazine had 28 pages of adverstisements and reviews for dam cell phone games. If I was subscribing to to that mag, I would be very pissed off.

3. Gamepro and Nintendo Power have done a better job as of late. I actually have renewed my subscription with Gamepro due to their inproved articles. Their ratings still suck though.

4. Game Informer is the new EGM as in the one to get the best info on current stuff. It is not perfect, but they have done a great job at balancing the mag with info, interviews, ratings, and other stuff. Definately worth a subscription/discount card.

For me, the current status of game mags is mixed. The stiff competition of the internet is I think going to have a good impact on game mags. Either they become better or they will perish.

Mangar
12-10-2007, 08:30 AM
Computer Gaming World.

Period. It remains the best gaming publication ever, and if any new magazine were released that attacked videogames and the videogame industry in general with the same sort of professional journalistic fervor - I'd buy it.

Zzap (A UK Magazine) is my #2 Fav or most respected.

Zap!
12-10-2007, 01:06 PM
back in the day i was all about gamepro, nintendo power, and egm these days i dont even bother picking up gaming mags as they really lost some of their magic since the early days.

If you didn't read Video Games & Computer Entertainment during that time, you missed out.

J2games
12-11-2007, 10:40 AM
Our vote would be for the original Electronic Games magazine from the 80's. Before marketing and advertising budgets starting ruling how content and ratings are given.

I'm personally suspicious of ANY magazine that takes ad dollars from within the industry. It leaves them suspect to situations much like what just unfolded with Jeff Gerstmann and GameSpot (http://j2games.com/new/forum/index.php?topic=1095.0)

GameInformer, PSMag, Xbox Mag are purely advertising channels for the products being released. Even the demo's released are much like movie trailers now, they show only the good stuff in hopes of getting you to buy in on it.

Each of these magazines do have their charms though and you can sometimes find great op-ed pieces, historical pieces, etc.

if you happen to collect the old mags, we stock 1000's of them here: http://www.j2games.com/new/index.php look on the bottom left under magazines.

Kevincal
12-11-2007, 11:11 AM
Gamefan and Next Generation were truly awesome in the mid 90's. EGM and Gamepro weren't too shabby in the mid 90's either. Even Game Players was decent. Nintendo Power is ok. But as far as American mags, Gamefan and Next Generation were the best ever. :) PLAY is ok, but not near as good as Gamefan was.

I don't read any of the new videogame mags. What's the point when you are already paying for the internet!? ;)

JPeeples
12-12-2007, 09:18 PM
VG&CE was one of my favorite mags back in the mid '90s, despite only buying a few issues due to its high cost (about $8 at Borders if memory serves). I loved Next Gen, but felt that it focused too much on the business side and not enough on the games, but one upside to that is the mag stood out, as every other mag was mainly covering the games.

Gamefan remains my favorite all-time mag since it gave extensive coverage to games like Welcome House, Fire Pro Wrestling S: 6-Man Scramble, and Toukon Retsuden: New Japan Pro Wrestling, which no other mag at the time would do.

Kevincal
12-12-2007, 09:44 PM
I'm actually dumbfounded that I was the first one in this entire thread to mention Gamefan. :o

boatofcar
12-12-2007, 09:56 PM
1UP is EGM.



1UP may be EGM-owned, but the audio podcast that bears its name only contains one or two people (depending on the week) employed by EGM.


I've been tempted to subscribe to their prints for over a year now but still have no true idea of how their magazine flows. How in depth are their reviews, information about the software or interviews with coders? I really wish there'd be a retailer around here with a few issues.

Game Developer is only about a 20 page magazine, and it's mostly interviews with (you guessed it) game developers, mixed in with a bunch of ads for game developing schools. I had a 6 month free subscription. Nothing special IMO.

wizkid007
12-13-2007, 03:08 PM
Gamefan was great.

Play is a decent mag

Game informer is great

Next generation was good, once.

There was this british mag that I always bought back when the saturn was out. Best mag I ever owned.

BillKunkel
12-26-2007, 01:46 PM
I appreciate the props for the original EG, VG&CE and the last year of T&T. Though I absolutely believe that the 90s incarnation of EG was much better written -- it was just laid out like crap.

The problem with the T&T was that Larry should have sold it to someone who was willing to go the distance and remake it into a website, with the ultimate walkthoughs, top code dbase and niche content (game-related action figures, music, movies, etc.) that would have made it a truly unique site. When they first called me in I suggested that LFP sell it, but Larry thought it could somehow be salvaged. The reason the codebooks make enough money to survive is that they cost almost nothing to produce and sell enough copies to pre-or non-computer literate gamers that they make a few bucks. LFP is just another victim of the overall magazine crash (from 20-something magazines to about four in something like ten years). Alas, just as that transition was being made to take T&T online, Larry gave up and had the prelim site taken down and now he can sell 45,000 copies of the codebooks and not lose money and still imagine that he's in the game magazine business (which he entered in the late 80s with VG&CE).

I think game magazines are basically all headed for the shredder. If EGM can't make it and must dump its content online and GI is working on the old Life magazine model where they give away most of their subs in order to attract advertising, I can't imagine any game magazine thriving. Plus they're locked into Gamestop, of course.

My favorite magazines that I wasn't involved in are Next Gen and PC Gamer. I look at something like Play, which clearly costs more to produce that it will ever make, as yet another example of its editor's ability to work VCs. As a journalist, I have absolutely no respect whatsoever for Dave, but he's still in the business so god bless him, I guess.

bangtango
12-26-2007, 02:17 PM
Bill, how well do you remember these articles from the 1990's version of Electronic Games? These three in particular were great stuff and I loved that series of issues.

1. An article detailing the creation of the first Mortal Kombat arcade game.

2. An article comparing all of the 8-bit and 16-bit pro wrestling games from that era, including the old releases, to see which one was truly the best (EG said Pro Wrestling and Super Wrestlemania).

3. An article comparing Street Fighter 2 to Mortal Kombat 1 to see which one was truly the best (EG suggested SFII was).


There were several more I could think of but I read each of these ones, especially the wrestling piece, dozens of times until I wore out the issues.

tom
12-26-2007, 02:59 PM
Bill, how well do you remember these articles from the 1990's version of Electronic Games? These three in particular were great stuff and I loved that series of issues.

1. An article detailing the creation of the first Mortal Kombat arcade game.

2. An article comparing all of the 8-bit and 16-bit pro wrestling games from that era, including the old releases, to see which one was truly the best (EG said Pro Wrestling and Super Wrestlemania).

3. An article comparing Street Fighter 2 to Mortal Kombat 1 to see which one was truly the best (EG suggested SFII was).


There were several more I could think of but I read each of these ones, especially the wrestling piece, dozens of times until I wore out the issues.


And don't forget, our own Joe Santulli featured in the 90s version of EG.

sirhansirhan
12-27-2007, 02:06 AM
I subscribe to Hardcore Gamer, and just got a letter from them on Christmas Eve informing me that they are going to a quarterly format. I am officially bummed out.

For the record, I much prefer magazines to websites. I also prefer strategy guides to GameFAQs. You know.

j_factor
12-28-2007, 12:07 AM
I think game magazines are basically all headed for the shredder. If EGM can't make it and must dump its content online and GI is working on the old Life magazine model where they give away most of their subs in order to attract advertising, I can't imagine any game magazine thriving.

What's your opinion on Hardcore Gamer Magazine? They launched just a couple years ago.