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nebrazca78
12-12-2007, 01:48 PM
True. It's hard to believe with as many followers as it has, Sega only produced one commercially successful piece of hardware in the US.

Why is that hard to believe? Most commercially successful stuff is crap. Sega is (or maybe was) to videogames what indie is (or maybe was) to music. Sony is like Britney Spears. M$ is like...The Rolling Stones. They have some excellent songs, but most of it is crap. Nintendo...I don't know...

CosmicMonkey
12-12-2007, 02:03 PM
It could be an "arcade experience" system like the original Dreamcast or the Neo Geo, though there's not much arcade left to experience anymore, but maybe new hardware from Sega could be key in bringing arcades back in some form.

...word is bondage...

If Sega were to create a good stable arcade platform as a basis, there's no reason why they couldn't 'do a NeoGeo'.

It's not like there's many choices in the arcade hardware market at the moment. Capcom no longer have their own board following the CPS3 (wtf is SF4 running on?), Cave are using their own boards, IGS is releasing the PGM2 (wooo!!) and then there's the Taito Type X/X+ which is basically a PC. The Triforce and Chihiro didn't exactly have many games, and there's still games being released on Naomi cartridges.

If Sega were to create a powerful new arcade platform that was cheap and easy to develop for that would entice the major arcade players, then they'd have a decent software base to begin with. Obviously a home version of this system wouldn't be mass market, but nor was the Neo Geo AES. It would mean attempting to get exclusive deals for all these games, so that conversions wouldn't appear on the 'rival' systems. But what a system it could be with all the Capcom fighters and Cave shooters on one system with Sega doing what it does best: arcade games.

Question is, would you be willing to pay for a home version of the arcade hardware? Say, £500 for the system with two arcade sticks and £250 per game? But remember, the games are the same as the arcade system games, just like MVS/AES, using whatever format Sega chose.

otoko
12-12-2007, 02:21 PM
I would be willing to pay for any sega system.

The question is do I have the expendible money...

Answer is.. no

Clownzilla
12-12-2007, 02:23 PM
Sega needs to get together with Namco & Apple to create a home system that would smoke the competition. It could be the only system that tops the innovation of the Wii while creating an outstanding library of first party content. You got arcade experience (Sega + Namco) alongside the innovative ability of all three companies.

Sweater Fish Deluxe
12-12-2007, 02:51 PM
Question is, would you be willing to pay for a home version of the arcade hardware? Say, £500 for the system with two arcade sticks and £250 per game? But remember, the games are the same as the arcade system games, just like MVS/AES, using whatever format Sega chose.
When you put it that way...

But first of all, I think the games could come on disc media of some type instead of cartridge, so they shouldn't cost more than $60. They could load the system with RAM to compensate and make "porting" from the arcade version easier. Second, do you really think the system would have to be that much? The MVS and NAOMI both achieved their success by being very low cost systems for arcade operators. Neither architecture was absolutely bleeding edge at the time of its release, instead they were just economically designed to provide a solid foundation for game developers to build on.


...word is bondage...

Rob2600
12-12-2007, 04:21 PM
Sega needs to get together with Namco & Apple to create a home system that would smoke the competition.

Smoke the competition? If I remember correctly, the graphics in Namco arcade games still lack soft-skinning and anti-aliasing. Am I wrong?

Clownzilla
12-12-2007, 04:32 PM
Smoke the competition? If I remember correctly, the graphics in Namco arcade games still lack soft-skinning and anti-aliasing. Am I wrong?

Soft skinning or not, Namco's arcade games were (and still are) the best in innovation & entertainment. Ultimately, that's what people really want in gaming.

ROTS MKII
12-12-2007, 04:42 PM
they would never get back in hadrware business....

I hope they do a Dreamcast Emulator for the 360

They will they just need the right direction. To hell with the 360 and all of them. The funny thing would be if Juliani came out with a Sega and said "this is the only chioce of gaming"

A Sega style system is probably the best thing right now with Nintendo being forgetfull and not keeping words and Sony attacking small businesses.

Matt-El
12-13-2007, 05:58 AM
No, it'd be the worst thing. There's already 3 systems on the market, with varying price ranges and designs. Not to mention the handheld market also is cornered by their respective companies.


How come no one realizes that the Dreamcast is a copyright, and if you have copyrights, you fucking renew them regardless? Throwing parts of the sega brand to public domain? Surely, you can't be serious!

DeputyMoniker
12-13-2007, 06:26 AM
the innovation of the Wii

I wish someone would choke that sentence to death already. Right along with "exploring new ways to control" and "you can download those games onto the Wii."

Sweater Fish Deluxe
12-13-2007, 12:01 PM
How come no one realizes that the Dreamcast is a copyright, and if you have copyrights, you fucking renew them regardless? Throwing parts of the sega brand to public domain? Surely, you can't be serious!
I think everyone here realizes that, but we're just having fun thinking about "what if..."

Reality is a total bring down, so keep it to yourself from now on, 'kay?


No, it'd be the worst thing. There's already 3 systems on the market, with varying price ranges and designs. Not to mention the handheld market also is cornered by their respective companies.
The handheld market is anything but "cornered" and neither is the console market. There's millions of people in the world who have neither a handheld nor a console and there's millions more who do, but would buy another one if it offered something they wanted. I find that people often have a terminal lack of imagination when it comes to envisioning things laid out differently than they are at the present. There's literally thousands upon thousands of possible ways that another console or handheld could compete and be successful in the present market, some of them require an innovative approach, some of them don't even require that.


...word is bondage...

eday_2010
12-14-2007, 09:54 PM
Not gonna happen. They are doing too well as just a software company to try hardware again. Especially with there already beign three established systems, not to mention the reputation they have with hardware still lingers. If there is ever another video game "crash", then MAYBE they would get back into the pool while everyone else is down. But as it stands, they won't get back into the hardware game. Too much to lose. Sega has said it won't happen. They were probably just renewing their trademarks. Maybe they will be releasing Dreamcast game compilations or Virtual Console DC games.

I'd LOVE for there to be a new console. I'd buy it in the blink of an eye regardless of their past transgressions. But alas, it isn't meant to be.

otoko
12-16-2007, 07:34 PM
If there is ever another video game "crash", then MAYBE they would get back into the pool while everyone else is down.\

Hmm.. who knows, that might be soon.

Sony, Microsoft, not Nintendo: Oh no.. we've all gone out of business due to lack of Monies!!! :(

Public: OH NOES!!! Who's going to help our lust for gaming?!

Sega: I'm to the rescue with... Drenesis.

Public: ....what?

Sega: Silly named consoles always do the best!

(Dreamcast + Genesis = Drenesis)

eday_2010
12-16-2007, 07:41 PM
I think associating the new machine with the Genesis would be a positive thing overall since it was their most successful console, though they were hardly very innovative when they made it. They overall weren't terribly innovative with hardware for the most part, but I still like their old systems :)

otoko
12-16-2007, 07:49 PM
No arguments here..

except any of the add-ons could be "innovative".. that's an extreme "could be" It's just they where not used correctly.

Damaramu
12-16-2007, 10:08 PM
...You got arcade experience (Sega + Namco) alongside the innovative ability of all three companies.

You know, I always wanted to see a collaborative game between Sega and Namco. Maybe a fighter along the lines of Fighters Megamix. I'm sure they could firgure some way to make that work, control wise.

Cryomancer
12-16-2007, 10:57 PM
Yeah, but Nintendo and Namco have been buddies for the past few years.

CosmicMonkey
12-17-2007, 04:38 AM
Well Sega, Nintendo and Namco went into partnership to produce the Triforce arcade board (souped-up Gamecube with a GD-Rom drive, basically) so there's at least some sort of understanding between the 3 companies.

There's no reason why these three companies between them couldn't design a nice new powerful arcade system. I'm sure they'd have the software side of the system covered.....

dsullo
12-17-2007, 01:41 PM
Dreamcast 2 would be sweet for those like us who would appreciate it, but it would die a quick death in the general gaming community