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AcePuppy
12-06-2007, 12:33 PM
Sega filed a new application to protect the trademark of Dreamcast. Let the hype begin. Proud to be a DC fanboy!

News link: http://www.destructoid.com/rumortoid-dreamcast-2-on-the-way--57926.phtml
Application Screenshot: http://www.destructoid.com/elephant/photo-m.phtml?post_key=57926&photo_key=24366

mailman187666
12-06-2007, 01:03 PM
I thought this happened at one point last year or something similar. I would love to see Sega do something new don't get me wrong, but with Sony, MS, and Nintendo all with systems already on the market, Sega would have to find a way to make something better than all of those systems. If anything since the mention flash cards I could maybe see some form of portable or something but who knows. Even if they did make a new Dreamcast, who is to say it will have the same appeal as the original.

EX-Soldier
12-06-2007, 01:21 PM
it'll never happen, just look at there track record, they couldn't make it work when they had credibility so how can they hope to succeed now that microsoft is a player, a player with significantly deeper pockets and the marketing muscle to keep the ship afloat??? sony is making headway and is in prime position for that number 2 spot next year and dont even get me started with nintendo....not to mention...none of these companies are run by pussies who abandon their systems after 2 years...fuckin pansies...


and yes, i'll be 1st in line to buy me a dreamcast 2 =(

cyberfluxor
12-06-2007, 01:26 PM
They wouldn't name a new system after the Dreamcast, it'd be suicide. Maybe there are plans for something else.

Slate
12-06-2007, 01:45 PM
They wouldn't name a new system after the Dreamcast, it'd be suicide. Maybe there are plans for something else.

So true, Also your avatar is awesome! :D

AcePuppy
12-06-2007, 02:02 PM
Any console by Sega I will fully invest in, even if it's not a Dreamcast 2. What more could go wrong. The PS3 is turning laughable in sales and by game standards, Sega can't do anymore worse. They've shown they are a great software developer for the big boys maybe they are trying to make a comeback, slowly but surely. Who knows, either way I'll welcome them back with open arms.

diskoboy
12-06-2007, 02:02 PM
I remember hearing a rumor like this before the 360 was released. I also remember the rumor was they would be using Holographic Versatile Discs as the medium they'll put the games on.

As much as I'd like to see a new Sega console, it's just not gonna happen. Sega is just in pretty bad shape, as a company.

RCM
12-06-2007, 02:06 PM
Not happening. The 360 is DC 2 as far as I'm concerned.

MrSparkle
12-06-2007, 02:08 PM
they should name it titanic 2! really though sega will NEVER get back into the console game their doing well as a software developer.

Poofta!
12-06-2007, 02:14 PM
ugh...



wont happen. they wouldnt call it a dc anyway! its probably for some kind of Dreamcast Anthology/Compilation disk or something. besides, who wants to lose trademark of their [even dead] consoles? asian pirates would jump all over that.

um... sega kinda blows as a software publisher too, they really havent made anything worth a damn for a while now. the last of their 'decent' software died with the dreamcast. the new gba sonic games, while amazing, arent even sega... and the real sega developed stuff blows.

noname11
12-06-2007, 02:15 PM
More than likely they probably will be using that trademark for some sort of digital distribution of their dreamcast games on already established systems.


However, I wouldnt mind a Dreamcast re-release, even if it was just old stock. Maybe even something as "trivial" as a shenmue 2 release with US voices. Id buy that!

otoko
12-06-2007, 02:15 PM
If I remember correctly This type of thing happened after they abandoned the Saturn.. then POP Dreamcast.

My favorite system of all time.. I wore out my original one recently.

MrSparkle
12-06-2007, 03:04 PM
blow though it might it still sells pretty well personally i think they started to decline before the dc was even dead sonic adventure 2 was kinda crappy loved the first one though but in the second i just felt like i had very little control over alot of the fast sequences in the game.

otoko
12-06-2007, 03:22 PM
blow though it might it still sells pretty well personally i think they started to decline before the dc was even dead sonic adventure 2 was kinda crappy loved the first one though but in the second i just felt like i had very little control over alot of the fast sequences in the game.

I agree with that.. I didn't like the second one much at all either..

megamaniaman
12-06-2007, 03:33 PM
No way this is happening. A new Colecovision, Intellivision, or Atari system would have more credibility than a new Dreamcast system at this point.

Superman
12-06-2007, 04:17 PM
No way this is happening. A new Colecovision, Intellivision, or Atari system would have more credibility than a new Dreamcast system at this point.

This is true megamaniaman, but not having credibility hasn't seemed to stop them before, so...who knows?

segagamer
12-06-2007, 04:24 PM
I also agree that a new Sega console will never happen. This is nothing more than a rumor from some hopeful fanboy.

AcePuppy
12-06-2007, 04:43 PM
I also agree that a new Sega console will never happen. This is nothing more than a rumor from some hopeful fanboy.

I love how I always see you in threads making posts agreeing with the so called majority but not even contributing to anything, just like you did in my other Dreamcast thread. If you have nothing to contribute just keep out of it. Obviously you are no "Sega gamer" otherwise you wouldn't mind seeing Sega develop a new console.

Zebbe
12-06-2007, 04:53 PM
dont even get me started with nintendo....not to mention...none of these companies are run by pussies who abandon their systems after 2 years...fuckin pansies...

Remember Virtual Boy?

Push Upstairs
12-06-2007, 05:06 PM
Most try not to.

InsaneDavid
12-06-2007, 05:08 PM
*sniff sniff* hmmm..... I smell a canned pork product here, one that just celebrated its 70th anniversary.

Ed Oscuro
12-06-2007, 05:11 PM
Sega stopped thinking about dreams when they released Shadow. Besides, who cares about dreams, which are inherently lo-fi and blurry, when you could be living REALITY

REALITYSTRIKE (with optional pro fishing controller!)

Wolfrider31
12-06-2007, 06:44 PM
Any console by Sega I will fully invest in, even if it's not a Dreamcast 2. What more could go wrong. The PS3 is turning laughable in sales and by game standards, Sega can't do anymore worse. They've shown they are a great software developer for the big boys maybe they are trying to make a comeback, slowly but surely. Who knows, either way I'll welcome them back with open arms.

I really wish people would stop saying that about the PS3. I don't even own one, but it still irks me. The PS3 has moved just as many units in its first year as the 360 did. That's not laughable by any means. What's throwing the data off is the Wii exceeding expectations and not matching the "expected" first year performance of a console.

Anyway, I highly doubt the Dreamcast 2 is going to happen. If it does happen, then clearly Sega execs are spending more time doing furious amounts of blow than actually taking care of their business. There are three competitors on the market, all firmly entrenched in gamers minds. Not to mention the growing resistance to multiple consoles among industry execs and gamers alike. It costs money to do ports and developers are not going to even look at system by a company that isn't even a big player anymore especially when porting is going to cost more money and split teams - both in development and in learning the architecture. Not to mention, Sega has no ability (apart from dwindling nostalgia) to court gamers. They are no longer synonymous with good design (quite the opposite in fact) and first party titles would be the only thing they'd have going in.

However, maybe they're considering doing something with the Dreamcast brand. Some sort of online service for their properties? A budget portable console or perhaps something like the Plug and Play systems?

cyberfluxor
12-06-2007, 06:52 PM
How about a new developers/gamers system. A basic console built from PC parts with a customized gaming OS that costs $200-400 retail and uses USB ports with programmable controls so you can have any input device. Could go on but it's possible to cheaply create a new "console," just takes the know-how and the ability to get it out there.

grolt
12-06-2007, 07:05 PM
If Sega would want any chance at a successful return to the console wars, now would probably be their last chance, say to announce a system for 2009. Even if their in-house games aren't near the quality of what they once were (although they still put out quality product), they are certainly benefitting from the retroactive goodwill garnered by their last two consoles. There's no question that the Dreamcast, and especially the Saturn, are much more appreciated today than they ever were when they were active. With all the interest in those consoles, Sega could make a killing alone from starting up their own virtual console on a new system. Imagine the impact releasing Panzer Dragoon Saga, NiGHTS or Shining Force III would have on prospective buyers (and on eBay's profits :D).

I have no faith whatsoever that a new console from the white and blue will ever surface, but hey, it's nice to dream.

chrisbid
12-06-2007, 07:14 PM
i hope not, i couldnt take yet another round of heartbreak

boatofcar
12-06-2007, 10:49 PM
So if this actually happened, here's how the general public would receive it.

Sega:
We're back in the hardware biz!

GP:
With what?

Sega:
The Dreamcast 2! Remember the Dreamcast?

GP: You mean the system that flopped?

Sega:
Yes! But this time it's different?

GP:
How?

Sega:
We've got better graphics! A faster processor! Color LCD VMU's!

GP:
But I already have a 360 and a PS3. Why do I need a Dreamcast 2?

Sega:
Because Sega is...we have some great...um...Color VMUs!

EX-Soldier
12-06-2007, 11:26 PM
Remember Virtual Boy?

touche' :embarrassed:

DukeLuckyLuke
12-06-2007, 11:43 PM
I think most casual gamers still remember the "failure" of Saturn/Dreamcast. I do not think any hardware Sega related would have a fair start on a market right now. Dreamcast was a great system killed by negative reputation from Saturn days.... and this is likely to happen again. If Sega wants to develop hardware, they should wait at least a decade or so. People need to forget about all the "bad" systems. My 2 cents.

Personally, I love my DC and I would buy the next Sega product. However, I don't think many would do the same.

Push Upstairs
12-07-2007, 12:36 AM
I love my Genesis and Saturn...DC not as much (but I'll always love Power Stone 2).

There just weren't a lot of games on the DC I was interested in or that caught my eye.

grolt
12-07-2007, 12:54 AM
Dreamcast was a great system killed by negative reputation from Saturn days....
Just like the Saturn was a great system killed by negative reputation from the 32X/Sega CD/CDX/Nomad days. ;)

boatofcar
12-07-2007, 01:01 AM
Just like the Saturn was a great system killed by negative reputation from the 32X/Sega CD/CDX/Nomad days. ;)

True. It's hard to believe with as many followers as it has, Sega only produced one commercially successful piece of hardware in the US.

grolt
12-07-2007, 01:15 AM
True. It's hard to believe with as many followers as it has, Sega only produced one commercially successful piece of hardware in the US.
Yeah, but Sega always had the arcade, too. Nintendo had, um, Donkey Kong.

sidnotcrazy
12-07-2007, 08:21 AM
Geeze, this rumor just won't die. Just like everyone before me has said Sega is just protecting its copyrights. Maybe they will release a collection, or set them up for digital download.

Griking
12-07-2007, 09:23 AM
ugh...



wont happen. they wouldnt call it a dc anyway! its probably for some kind of Dreamcast Anthology/Compilation disk or something. besides, who wants to lose trademark of their [even dead] consoles? asian pirates would jump all over that.

um... sega kinda blows as a software publisher too, they really havent made anything worth a damn for a while now. the last of their 'decent' software died with the dreamcast. the new gba sonic games, while amazing, arent even sega... and the real sega developed stuff blows.

Yes, ok we get it, you hate Sega. You've made this perfectly clear lately in various threads. Can we please move on about it :roll:now?

Griking
12-07-2007, 09:27 AM
So if this actually happened, here's how the general public would receive it.

Sega:
We're back in the hardware biz!

GP:
With what?

Sega:
The Dreamcast 2! Remember the Dreamcast?

GP: You mean the system that flopped?

Sega:
Yes! But this time it's different?

GP:
How?

Sega:
We've got better graphics! A faster processor! Color LCD VMU's!

GP:
But I already have a 360 and a PS3. Why do I need a Dreamcast 2?

Sega:
Because Sega is...we have some great...um...Color VMUs!

LOL substitute Color VMU for Blu Ray and that's pretty much how I feel about the PS3

kainemaxwell
12-07-2007, 09:47 AM
Must as many of us want this to happen, I doubt it will. Sega's better off in the software market nowadays rather then hardware and software.

PentiumMMX
12-07-2007, 09:54 AM
That'd be awesome. I'd want a DC2 if it ever came out (Probably won't happen, but it's still a cool though). Hopefully there will be a way to import your PSO characters to it.

Cryomancer
12-07-2007, 11:50 AM
I for one am pretty dissapointed that the xbox didn't have color VMUs. Or the 360 for that matter. VMUs added great dimension to gameplay that has not been matched. The only things that are comparable are pocketstation and GCN-GBA connectivity, and those weren't nearly as integrated into the overall system. Although, GBA connectivity was sorely under-utilized in my opinon as well. Pacman VS and Four Swords are GREAT games, and the link function in Command Mission was very VMU-esque.

Hell, sports games ALONE have very obvious and major benefits from VMUs, as do RPGs. Not to mention all the portable minigame goodness.

Chuplayer
12-07-2007, 11:56 AM
Maybe they're finally going to do something with the Dreamcast-on-a-chip they developed at the end of the DC's active life. I still don't know why Nintendo didn't license it for use in the DS. It would've been sweet!

Wolfrider31
12-07-2007, 12:52 PM
I for one am pretty dissapointed that the xbox didn't have color VMUs. Or the 360 for that matter. VMUs added great dimension to gameplay that has not been matched. The only things that are comparable are pocketstation and GCN-GBA connectivity, and those weren't nearly as integrated into the overall system. Although, GBA connectivity was sorely under-utilized in my opinon as well. Pacman VS and Four Swords are GREAT games, and the link function in Command Mission was very VMU-esque.

Hell, sports games ALONE have very obvious and major benefits from VMUs, as do RPGs. Not to mention all the portable minigame goodness.

Have to agree there. I liked the VMU's. Battery life was a problem sure, but that can be fixed, and there was a lot of really cool things that could be done. Even just a separate screen integrated into the controller would have been a smart idea. (Since memory cards are practically non existent now - thank god.)

zemmix
12-07-2007, 01:24 PM
Man I loved the VMU's too. I was thinking with todays technology maybe someone like MS should bring back the VMUs for the next system. They could have color screens, and be a money maker too by doubling as MP3 players with music you could buy and download over Live. Then you could also download replays from your games onto the VMU so that you can show people on the go. Also with some decent controls you could be able to buy and play mini games from Live as well. Or double as your Live ID tag so that when you go over to a friends house to play some sports on their system you could still get acheivements even though you are playing on someone else's system.

Melf
12-07-2007, 03:43 PM
Geeze, this rumor just won't die. Just like everyone before me has said Sega is just protecting its copyrights. Maybe they will release a collection, or set them up for digital download.

Exactly. All this means is that Sega is protecting the name, nothing more. It has nothing to do with hardware. And given how in love Sammy is with Pachinko, I doubt it would get its head out of its ass long enough to consider new hardware.

The Sega of old is dead. The sooner you accept it and move on, the better off you'll be.

AcePuppy
12-07-2007, 03:51 PM
Sega squashed the rumor in an interview to Gamedaily today.

segagamer
12-07-2007, 06:10 PM
I love how I always see you in threads making posts agreeing with the so called majority but not even contributing to anything, just like you did in my other Dreamcast thread. If you have nothing to contribute just keep out of it. Obviously you are no "Sega gamer" otherwise you wouldn't mind seeing Sega develop a new console.

Actually, I used to be a Sega fanboy myself but grew out of it several years ago, and now enjoy other consoles and their games. I actually have all the Sega systems released in the US and have collected many many games for each system (both domestic and import).

I guess what I am really trying to say is that I am being realistic about the console market these days (very competitive and costly), and I just do not see any chance of Sega ever going back to develop another console.

Sorry if I had offended anyone here.

Damaramu
12-07-2007, 06:27 PM
Guess you guys missed this?

From Game Daily (http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/updated-dreamcast-trademark-sparks-dreamcast-2-rumor/18767/?biz=)



Sega's Dreamcast to this day remains one of the most beloved consoles among hardcore gamers. Its untimely death back in 2001 when Sega decided to leave the hardware business and become an agnostic third-party software publisher has left many wondering if a time would ever come that a new Sega console might turn into a reality.
While the chances of that happening are still quite remote, gamers across the Internet have spotted a recently updated trademark for the Dreamcast (http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=77253368). Although Sega's old Dreamcast trademark (http://tarr.uspto.gov/servlet/tarr?regser=serial&entry=75528322) is still available, the new one (filed in August of this year) describes "home video game machines; player-operated electronic controllers for electronic video game machines; video game interactive controller, namely, hand held pads, and floor pads or mats; joysticks for video games; computer cursor control devices, namely, computer mouse; flash memory cards; video game software, computer game programs."
While some hopeful gamers have taken this to mean that a "Dreamcast 2" is in the planning stages, a more likely scenario is that Sega is looking to protect is trademark, possibly before making its games available on digital distribution services like Xbox Live Arcade or PlayStation Network. Emulation of Dreamcast games has been going on for years now, and tweaking some of the classics for a digital download service is probably not a very challenging task for the publisher.
GameDaily BIZ has pinged Sega for the official word. We'll let you know what we hear.


[UPDATE] Sega of America PR Director Charlie Scibetta is currently looking into the trademark issue and why it was updated. In the meantime he told us that Sega "has no plans to get back into the console business," adding, "We're very happy being a platform agnostic company and have moved up the ranks the past three years from #11, to #9, and now stand at #6 in terms of our market share by units among third-party publishers. We like our current strategy and have no plans to change in the middle of this outstanding growth."

s1lence
12-07-2007, 06:32 PM
*sniff sniff* hmmm..... I smell a canned pork product here, one that just celebrated its 70th anniversary.

Which is 62 years older then a dreamcast as well.

diskoboy
12-07-2007, 06:42 PM
Maybe they want to liscense the hardware out to other companies. [/speculation].

That could work...

And if they want to renew the DC's trademark, I wonder if they're gonna renew the GD-ROM trademark?

Sweater Fish Deluxe
12-07-2007, 07:11 PM
Guess you guys missed this?

From Game Daily (http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/news/updated-dreamcast-trademark-sparks-dreamcast-2-rumor/18767/?biz=)

[UPDATE] Sega of America PR Director Charlie Scibetta is currently looking into the trademark issue and why it was updated. In the meantime he told us that Sega "has no plans to get back into the console business," adding, "We're very happy being a platform agnostic company and have moved up the ranks the past three years from #11, to #9, and now stand at #6 in terms of our market share by units among third-party publishers. We like our current strategy and have no plans to change in the middle of this outstanding growth."
Allow me to paraphrase:

"Sega of America PR Flunky Charlie Scibetta has no idea what is actually happening at Sega but he'll try to ask someone in the hall next time anyone makes eye contact with him. In the meantime, he gave us some management-approved media relation quotes out of his talking points notebook and then went back to crying on his desk after we hung up."


...word is bondage...

MarioMania
12-07-2007, 08:51 PM
they would never get back in hadrware business....

I hope they do a Dreamcast Emulator for the 360

ssjlance
12-07-2007, 10:02 PM
I much as I would love to say that the DC2 is coming, I just don't see it happening. It's plausible, but improbable.

Melf
12-07-2007, 10:18 PM
I hope they stay the hell out of hardware from now on. I wouldn't want to buy another Sega console only to see it discontinued out of the blue. Sega LOVES to pull the plug on its hardware without any warning, and the DC was the last straw for me.

calgon
12-07-2007, 11:38 PM
The original Dreamcast was a pretty innovative (at the time) piece of hardware. I have confidence that Sega could possibly make a decent next-gen console. If I were them though, I'd wait a year or two before entering the picture, if anything, just to see what their up against, and if the medium for games changes (from DVD to flash/download, etc)

kedawa
12-08-2007, 03:49 AM
Maybe they're just getting greedy and are preparing to go after the Treamcast guys?

AMG
12-08-2007, 03:58 AM
I would buy a new SEGA console in a heartbeat.

exit
12-08-2007, 06:43 AM
I wouldn't mind seeing another Sega console, but it wouldn't be a bright idea at the moment. Right now theres the extremely successful Wii, ever popular Xbox 360 and the uprising of the PS3. It would be best if they sat a generation or two out, just so they can pick a game plan and run with it.

RegSNES
12-08-2007, 01:22 PM
I think Sega is doing just fine as a software developer. The last thing they need to do is get back into the hardware business. How much money were they losing exactly?

Greg2600
12-08-2007, 01:50 PM
The biggest hurdle is the console production cost itself. At the end of the day, the companies make very little profit from sales of the systems themselves, especially when you throw in more expensive components like hard drives and Blu Ray players. They make their money on the licensing fees. SEGA lost its market when they went from the Genesis to the string of successors including the SEGA CD, 32X, and Saturn. They're never getting that back, and the people who know "SEGA" are way too old now to propel it.

Oobgarm
12-08-2007, 03:21 PM
I much as I would love to say that the DC2 is coming, I just don't see it happening. It's plausible, but improbable.


Someone give this guy a cookie. He deserves it for having a level head.

Rob2600
12-08-2007, 03:26 PM
The original Dreamcast was a pretty innovative (at the time) piece of hardware.

The Dreamcast was powerful, but other than featuring a built-in modem, how was it innovative?

xfrumx
12-08-2007, 05:33 PM
The Dreamcast was powerful, but other than featuring a built-in modem, how was it innovative?

VMU's for sure. I don't know about much more maybe the mic w/ Seaman and Alien Front Online? we had never seen that kind of stuff before.

ssjlance
12-08-2007, 09:47 PM
Someone give this guy a cookie. He deserves it for having a level head.

I can has cookie? Yay. Better yet, i'll just go play Dreamcast and wish to myself :)

Cryomancer
12-08-2007, 10:25 PM
VMU's for sure. I don't know about much more maybe the mic w/ Seaman and Alien Front Online? we had never seen that kind of stuff before.

Maracas, fishing controller, camera (that gave video chat even), VMUs, online play of course, two memory units/accessories in the controller so you could have a VMU and a rumble pack at the same time, VGA support, Neo Geo Pocket Color linkup ability, mouse and keyboard support, so on. There were also karaoke addons and things like that, but those have been seen before. The mic has been done far back as the famicom but the DC really had games for it.

And a few canceled items: zip drive support, mp3 playing VMUs, DVD player-dreamcast hybrids, and whatever the hell the thing in the lower right is, best guess is a tambourine controller addon:
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/448/vmspart2ny3.png

That's ripped right out of the browser part of Illbleed's JPN release, by the way.

Rob2600
12-08-2007, 11:38 PM
Maracas, fishing controller, camera (that gave video chat even), VMUs, online play of course, two memory units/accessories in the controller so you could have a VMU and a rumble pack at the same time, VGA support, Neo Geo Pocket Color linkup ability, mouse and keyboard support, so on. There were also karaoke addons and things like that, but those have been seen before. The mic has been done far back as the famicom but the DC really had games for it.

I thought we were discussing the Dreamcast console itself. I didn't know accessories were included in the discussion.

Anyway, like you wrote, microphones had been released for consoles before. Keyboards, too. VGA output was a nice feature though, despite that fact that the adapter had to be purchased separately.

swlovinist
12-09-2007, 02:17 AM
I think that the only way Sega could release a new console would be as a novelity item. It would have to be

1. Rock Bottom Priced
2. Supported with lots of software
3. Not a dam other Jakks joystick

I think that a retro console could make it(like the Atari Flashback), but who knows if we will ever see it.

Cryomancer
12-09-2007, 03:31 AM
I thought we were discussing the Dreamcast console itself. I didn't know accessories were included in the discussion.

Anyway, like you wrote, microphones had been released for consoles before. Keyboards, too. VGA output was a nice feature though, despite that fact that the adapter had to be purchased separately.

Well, that still leaves VGA, NGPC linkup, the online play, and VMUs, if you are willing to count the memory as part of the console. Everything I mentioned is first party, at least.

edit: well actually yes online play had been done before too, but the DC still had the little game homepages and the ability to download stuff for your game, etc.

Ze_ro
12-09-2007, 03:44 AM
The Dreamcast was powerful, but other than featuring a built-in modem, how was it innovative?
I think the most innovative thing about it was the software rather than the hardware. Sega brought out a lot of games for the Dreamcast that previously would have a hard time getting out of Japan. I mean Christ, Typing of the Dead? Do you really think Sony would have released something like that? Add to that the pure style of games like Jet Grind Radio, Chu Chu Rocket, Space Channel 5, Shenmue, Samba de Amigo and Crazy Taxi, and you had something quite different on your hands.

--Zero

ssjlance
12-09-2007, 12:46 PM
Jet Grind Radio by itself is enough to claim the console was innovative. Pioneered cel shaded graphics. Whether you love or hate the style, it made an impact.

CosmicMonkey
12-09-2007, 02:47 PM
whatever the hell the thing in the lower right is, best guess is a tambourine controller addon:
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/448/vmspart2ny3.png


Nope, that's the Swatch Beat accessory. Swatch decided to reinvent time: the day would be divided into 100 'Beats' and this time would be universal the world over, no time zones. There's more info on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatch_Beat). So basically you could arrange on-line gaming with people in different countries and your Swatch watch would synch with your DC using the UFO shaped VMU accessory to tell you when you should be gaming.

Yet another pretty innovative Dreamcast feature that died the day Propeller Arena was canned, as this was to be a main feature of the online side of the game (afaik).

I'm always disappointed that the MP3 VMUs were never released. I've seen pictures of mock-ups and they look pretty damn cool. You'd probably still be able to use them now too. There's always a way.....

Flack
12-09-2007, 09:02 PM
What would be the point of a Sega console?

Sweater Fish Deluxe
12-10-2007, 12:40 PM
What would be the point of a Sega console?
Well since everything here is speculation, we don't really know what the point would be if there was indeed another Sega console. I think there's lots possible points, some of which have been suggested in this thread already.

It could be an "arcade experience" system like the original Dreamcast or the Neo Geo, though there's not much arcade left to experience anymore, but maybe new hardware from Sega could be key in bringing arcades back in some form.

Or maybe it could be a system that focused on homebrew or independent development with 100% downloaded content and lots of opportunities for expandability in terms of accessories.

Those are two things I'd like to see, but there's plenty of other possible points as well.


...word is bondage...

Cryomancer
12-10-2007, 01:55 PM
Nope, that's the Swatch Beat accessory. Swatch decided to reinvent time: the day would be divided into 100 'Beats' and this time would be universal the world over, no time zones. There's more info on Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swatch_Beat). So basically you could arrange on-line gaming with people in different countries and your Swatch watch would synch with your DC using the UFO shaped VMU accessory to tell you when you should be gaming.

Yet another pretty innovative Dreamcast feature that died the day Propeller Arena was canned, as this was to be a main feature of the online side of the game (afaik).

I'm always disappointed that the MP3 VMUs were never released. I've seen pictures of mock-ups and they look pretty damn cool. You'd probably still be able to use them now too. There's always a way.....

Wait, do you have any info on the accessory itself? I know all about Beat time, I play PSO. But I've never heard about a UFO-shaped Beat timer.

boatofcar
12-12-2007, 01:57 AM
From Gizmodo:

Apparently a second coming of the Dreamcast was a little too much for Sega to handle, but getting into the mind-controlled toy business is right up their alley. According to a recent announcement, Sega will be teaming up with NeuroSky —a company that specializes in bio-sensor and signal processing systems, to develop toys that "take play to the next level" by allowing players to use brainwaves and other bio-signals as a means of control.

Unfortunately, neither company was in the mood to elaborate on the subject, so the exact nature of the device(s) are unknown. In the end, this tatic may backfire given the fact that the final product will most likely fall well short of what our imaginations can conjure up. Feel free to speculate...wildly.


Article Link (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/mind-control/sega-and-neurosky-working-together-on-mind+controlled-toys-332740.php)

Rob2600
12-12-2007, 10:20 AM
It could be an "arcade experience" system like the original Dreamcast or the Neo Geo

Yeah, because those two consoles were so popular and successful. :)

Sweater Fish Deluxe
12-12-2007, 12:36 PM
Yeah, because those two consoles were so popular and successful. :)
Popular with me and successful at making me happy!


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