Rumor: Call of Duty 5 to be set during World War II [Joystiq]

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Treyarch, the development team behind Spider-Man 3 and Call of Duty 3, recently put up a job listing for a Call of Duty level designer, presumably for the fifth game in the series (which Treyarch is reportedly working on (http://news.filefront.com/infinity-ward-not-making-call-of-duty-5/)). However, a bit of text in the listing may reveal the direction which Treyarch is taking Call of Duty 5 (http://www.joystiq.com/tag/CallofDuty5/) -- and from the looks of things, that direction is backwards.

The listing says that applicants would be well-served by being "a fan of World War II shooters," causing some to believe (http://www.gamer.tm/news.php?id=1848) that the game will take place during the WWII era. We've seen less logical rumors come through the mill, but we still can't help but scoff at this gossip. Who would want to play a game based on WWII? What's a war game without AC-130 gunships and guided anti-tank missiles? We'll tell you - it's boring. We'll take futuristic weaponry over rich cultural heritage any day of the week.

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[PapaStu]

Reading that Treyarch is doing this does make me a little sad. I liked CoD3, but it really had some issues with the story mode (invisible walls, pointless and unusable jumping ability) much like the issues i'm running into with CoD4 and its difficulty factor have kind of turned me a little sour to another Treyarch game more so than the fact it would be another WW2 game.

There have been 2 or 3 screen shots that I saw (right as the whole Blizzard, Activision merger was coming thru) that showed a character carrying a sniper rifle in a snow level. It made me think not of WW2, but of the Korean War. I doubt they'd make a war game on it due to its content, but one never knows.

[monkeysuit]

Did Treyarch do Call of Duty 4?

This rumor is a little disappointing. I think they did the right thing by moving the fourth installment away from the already saturated WWII genre.

[Ze_ro]

Did Treyarch do Call of Duty 4?
Nope. Infinity Ward did CoD4 (and CoD2). Treyarch did CoD3 though. Rumor has it that Infinity Ward wanted 2 years to work on another CoD game, but Activision wants a sequel earlier than that, so they're getting Treyarch to fill in. Can't have such a profitable franchise miss a year, don'tcha know.

Basically, skip this crap and wait for CoD6, when (presumably) Infinity Ward will be back in the driver's seat.

--Zero

[monkeysuit]

Nope. Infinity Ward did CoD4 (and CoD2). Treyarch did CoD3 though. Rumor has it that Infinity Ward wanted 2 years to work on another CoD game, but Activision wants a sequel earlier than that, so they're getting Treyarch to fill in. Can't have such a profitable franchise miss a year, don'tcha know.

Basically, skip this crap and wait for CoD6, when (presumably) Infinity Ward will be back in the driver's seat.

--Zero

Ugh, that's what I was afraid of. CoD3, to me, was absolutely terrible. I couldn't even finish the story mode it was so dull. CoD4 on the other hand is phenomenal. Here's hoping the rumors prove to be false.

[heybtbm]

It looks like the Call of Duty franchise is mirroring the Star Trek movie franchise. The "odds" suck, the "evens" are awesome. In fairness, CoD3 wasn't bad...it was just more of the same.

Seriously...who is interested in another WWII FPS shooting Germans in a crumbling Europe? There are a few scenarios that they could do...but won't. Since game developers are crushed by self imposed political correctness (where the only acceptable enemies can be Nazi's), we'll never see the South Pacific theatre side of things in a mainstream title.

[Leo_A]

I was sad CoD4 left WWII behind, so I'm happy.

[Snapple]

The world doesn't need anymore WW2 shooters. They should go do the revolutionary war now or something.

[Rob2600]

The world doesn't need anymore WW2 shooters. They should go do the revolutionary war now or something.

Yes, a first-person shooter of the American Revolutionary War. The only weapon would be a musket and the reload time between each bullet would be two minutes. :)

[Ponyone]

Yes, a first-person shooter of the American Revolutionary War. The only weapon would be a musket and the reload time between each bullet would be two minutes. :)

Hey, they made a civil war game! (which I would like to try)

I wonder if you can be the drummer boy and bash people with your drumstick

[MonoTekETeA]

There is a Mod for Half-Life called Battlegrounds which is very good and takes like 8-10 seconds to reload the musket.

I haven't tried the History Channel Civil War however.

-Jeremy

[monkeysuit]

If they really must go back in time with CoD5, Treyarch should at least take a shot at a different war. Maybe we could have a little 'Nam action? If they stick with all of the cool little features 4 brought to the series, that might just work out. You know, pull some inspiration from Full Metal Jacket and give us a Vietnam game worth playing.

I'd still much rather stick with modern warfare though.

[PapaStu]

Did Treyarch do Call of Duty 4?

Infinity Ward did CoD,CoD2 and CoD4. I just saw a thing on the making of CoD4 yesterday on X-Play and actually when Infinity Ward split from EA where they had been doing the Medal Of Honor games their initial plan was to do a modern shooter ala Rainbow Six, but they modified it to what they had been doing well already which was a WW2 shooter. They kept developing what became CoD4 the entire time as they completed CoD1 and CoD2


Seriously...who is interested in another WWII FPS shooting Germans in a crumbling Europe? There are a few scenarios that they could do...but won't. Since game developers are crushed by self imposed political correctness (where the only acceptable enemies can be Nazi's), we'll never see the South Pacific theatre side of things in a mainstream title.
We've already had a South Pacific game.... Medal Of Honor: Rising Sun. Unfortunately it was a not so great game, as the MoH series had started to hit the been there done that, a game prior to that (MoH: Frontline).


I was sad CoD4 left WWII behind, so I'm happy.
Then you've not played CoD4. Its one of the best shooters (minus respawning issues in Mulitplayer) and best looking games out there bar none.

[PapaStu]

Hey, they made a civil war game! (which I would like to try)

I wonder if you can be the drummer boy and bash people with your drumstick
No you can't play as a drummer boy and bash people with the stick. You've got Civil War era weapons that have been sped up in reloading animations to make it even semi-feasable to try and play. All the weapons have the same power and all have super range. I can kill a person with a pistol at 300 yards just as easy as I can with either the musket (which gets replaced very quickly in every level by a repeating type rifle). However I can head shot a person 3 feet away from me and they don't drop. The character models are bad and the game is just broken, with their bullets hitting you through pretty much anything and everything.


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I haven't tried the History Channel Civil War however.

-Jeremy
And your not missing out. The game is really bad. I got it because I'm a big history and Civil War person and I really had a hard time with it. Read the above for more on its craptacularness.

[E Nice]

How about one set during WW1? Jumping the trenches across no-man's land, bayonets in hand-to-hand, poison gas attacks. The early cloth covered aircraft of various unique designs. But I'd actually be curious to see those original tanks in action, with guns on both sides of it and having to put those giant curler looking things in order to cross trenches.

[Nesmaster]

Treyarch + WWII = PASS!

I mght play it later on, but I'll wait for the real IW developed COD5 in 2009.

[boatofcar]

How about one set during WW1? Jumping the trenches across no-man's land, bayonets in hand-to-hand, poison gas attacks. The early cloth covered aircraft of various unique designs. But I'd actually be curious to see those original tanks in action, with guns on both sides of it and having to put those giant curler looking things in order to cross trenches.

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Seriously though, I think WWI is a better choice than Vietnam or another WWII game.

[Sothy]

I would like a game where you are a modern special forces soldier sent through time to change the outcomes of battles.

Imagine setting up a sniper position at Marathon or calling in an airstrike at the Alamo. Also you could cut peoples faces off and save the skins and then sell them to upgrade your magic spells, that would be cool.

[Alucard79]

I would like a game where you are a modern special forces soldier sent through time to change the outcomes of battles.

Imagine setting up a sniper position at Marathon or calling in an airstrike at the Alamo. Also you could cut peoples faces off and save the skins and then sell them to upgrade your magic spells, that would be cool.

I think I would actually love to play that game. Can you imagine the airstrike at the Alamo? God that would be funny.

[FAMOUS]

Lets move forward, not back were we already have been many of times... Come on IW...

[roushimsx]

We've already had a South Pacific game.... Medal Of Honor: Rising Sun. Unfortunately it was a not so great game, as the MoH series had started to hit the been there done that, a game prior to that (MoH: Frontline).

There's also Medal of Honor: Pacific Assault, which totally did not suck (unlike Rising Sun...but at least Rising Sun had a neat first level).

Also, Treyarch did Call of Duty 2: The Big Red One before they did Call of Duty 3, so who knows...maybe the third time is the charm. Their output hasn't been too bad, though it hasn't been nearly up to the standards that they had set for themselves years ago. I think the last original game they did that I really, really liked was Minority Report.

I'm more of a Treyarch fan than an Infinity Ward fan, though. While I haven't played Call of Duty 4 yet, I absolutely did not enjoy Call of Duty or Call of Duty 2. There was some nice scripting here and there, but overall they were remarkably generic and unimaginative. Disappointing, considering I really enjoyed the output that a lot of the guys there had while they were with 2015. Haven't checked out any of 2015's stuff since the split (which I guess is just Men of Valor), but I'm tempted to give it a look-see after the freight train of disappointment that is the Call of Duty series.

Spark Unlimited's Call of Duty: Finest Hour is perhaps the biggest disappointment, though. There's a game that was helmed by people responsible for Medal of Honor, Medal of Honor Underground, and Medal of Honor: Frontline. Somehow they went from doing those three games to churning out something that made Medal of Honor: Spearhead look like Grade A+ quality material.

tl;dr - I enjoy playing WW2 games despite so many of them being completely uninspired train wrecks that take a bulk of their inspiration from movies.

But hey, it looks like Call of Duty 5 will be taking place in the Pacific, so I'm pretty jazzed about that! Come on Treyarch, don't let me down! Don't Spiderman 3 it!

edit - ....and I'm reminded that I need to play the Brothers in Arms games, still. Fuck. Too many games, not enough time.

[Zap!]

How come there are little to no WWI, Korean, and Vietnam war games? Why is it always modern war or WWII?

[Rob2600]

How come there are little to no WWI, Korean, and Vietnam war games? Why is it always modern war or WWII?

Because, for some reason, it's socially acceptable to injure, torture, and kill German people in video games, but not Korean or Vietnamese people.

[Zap!]

Because it's socially acceptable to injure, torture, and kill German people, but not Korean or Vietnamese people.

Good point. I never thought of that, and I'm the conservative. :)

I just wanna kill some commies in some game, I don't care if they're Russian, Viets, North Koreans, or Cubans. :)

[NE146]

Good point. I never thought of that, and I'm the conservative. :)

I just wanna kill some commies in some game, I don't care if they're Russian, Viets, North Koreans, or Cubans. :)

'Course it's a videogame. So it can be apes, walking carrots, or midgets for all it matters at the end of the day.

[roushimsx]

How come there are little to no WWI, Korean, and Vietnam war games? Why is it always modern war or WWII?

Probably because:
a) Vietnam videogames were all the rage about 2-3 years ago and companies very quickly realized that making a solid Vietnam game (like Vietcong) is a lot harder than they thought.

b) The Korean war/conflict/whatever you want to call it isn't as popular as World War 2 or Vietnam.

c) World War I presents too many design challenges to most developers when it comes to building a FPS. Most people still remember WWI as simply trench and artillery-based and forget completely about everything else (including the amphibious assaults!). At least it did well in the flight sims and strategy games, but yea...I'd love to see a good FPS around the time frame of WWI.

Killzone (PS2) did a pretty good job of having levels based on various wars throughout the 20th century but with a sci fi twist. Korea, WWI trench based warfare, WWII amphibious assault defense, vietnam jungle warfare, etc.

Personally, I love cold war era stuff, such as Operation Flashpoint. That shit is the bee's knees. Fucking Reds.

[heybtbm]

Confirmed...

COD5 will take place in the Pacific Theater during WWII.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6192277.html

[Emuaust]

I hated cod 3 single player but loved the multiplayer, maybeeven more so then cod4.

But to be honest id skip all games toplay sothy's vision of a new cod.

[heybtbm]

So much for milking the franchise...Call of Duty 5 is now called, "Call of Duty: World at War". Maybe they're leaving "Call of Duty 5" free for Infinity Ward in 2009.

[robotriot]

I'm also interested in more historic war games, seen enough of WWII already. There's a WW1 FPS in development currently called "To End All Wars", let's see how that turns out.