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Garry Silljo
12-19-2007, 08:41 PM
I just picked up the new Nights game on the Wii. So far I'm pleased. I was a little dissapointed at first at all the cinema being thrown at me, but once I got to the real gameplay I was a happy boy again. The chase stages and boss battles were just like the Saturn game I love so much. There were a few small tweaks, but overall it's just what I wanted when I plunked down my $50 almost 5 months ago.

There are some new level variations too and the jury is out in my mind on those. One I played was sort of like an enemy-less game of defender, where nightopians are sucked up in a vortex and you must save all you can by looping around them until time runs out. I liked it for a little bit but by the end I was waiting for it to be over. There was also a rafting stage that I don't think really belongs in the game at all. It's good that they are trying to grow the gameplay, but this just doesn't fit.

Overall I'm very pleased and so far I have to say Sega did good on this one. However I was wondering what some other peoples impressions were. Some of you may have played further in than me and can give better insight. For those on the fence, I'd say definately give it a try.

diskoboy
12-19-2007, 08:46 PM
Oh shit, I forgot it came out today!!!

**Runs to Best Buy**

ZackyH
12-19-2007, 09:31 PM
Wasn't the release date originally on the 18th? I went yesterday to get it and they said it comes out today. I had plans today so I'll probably pick it up on Friday. Hopefully it's worth it. If not I may move all of my money over to Smash Bros.

Garry Silljo
12-19-2007, 09:58 PM
Wasn't the release date originally on the 18th? I went yesterday to get it and they said it comes out today. I had plans today so I'll probably pick it up on Friday. Hopefully it's worth it. If not I may move all of my money over to Smash Bros.

I did the same thing. They told me that was the "ship" date, and not the release date. Sounded fishy, but it's easy to drop by on my way home from work so I just shrugged it off. I need to start setting aside the dough for Smash Bros. Thanks for reminding me. I think it's definately worth it. I've barely scratched the surface and am already replaying stages trying to up my grades. Once you get past all the intro stuff and hit meat of the game, it's what it should be. High replay, just like the original.

Habeeb Hamusta
12-19-2007, 11:31 PM
So how is the weather feature working out....is it accurate...does it do it in real time as well?

walrusmonger
12-20-2007, 12:03 AM
Almost 100% of the time the instore day is 1 day after the release date. Only "mega-titles" like Guitar Hero/Madden/Halo are sold on their release date, and from time to time lesser known titles that tie into movie releases. This of course is not set in stone, but it's how things work out most of the time.

I picked my my reserved copy today- I have yet to open Nights, Resident Evil or Ghost Squad for the Wii since I'm still working on Mario Galaxy. I will probably try Nights out next week along with the others, since I will have finished finals and be free from school forever.

From the impressions I've read, it seems like pretty good game. As long as it's colorful, plays well and has good music (which is what I'm hearing) I'll be very happy :)

j_factor
12-20-2007, 12:15 AM
I preordered it online (I'm not sure why I decided to go that route), so I should have it in a couple days. I've been waiting 11 years for this game.

Does it still have the A-Life feature? None of the previews I read seemed to mention it. That was one of the best (and most impressive, interesting, unique, etc.) features of the original IMO; NiGHTS is one of the most replayable games of all time and that feature is partly why.

animesuperj
12-20-2007, 12:19 AM
I picked it up, but had to go to work right away once I got home. Now that I'm back from work, I have to go to bed early because I have my last exam for the semester tomorrow. Which is good! However, sucks cause I can't play Nights. I've been looking forward to this game coming out for a while, hopefully it's a good play.

Cloud121
12-20-2007, 12:42 AM
I've read it supports the GameCube controller. This true?

segagamer4life
12-20-2007, 11:04 AM
I've read it supports the GameCube controller. This true?

this is true, you can use the wiimote/nunchuck the classic controller, which I like, and the gamecube controller, take your pick


I only managed to get through the breif tutorial last night, but so far the controls are nice, and I can't wait to dig into this more tonight!!

RCM
12-20-2007, 12:12 PM
I'm picking it up today, can't wait. I bought a Wii for this title, there's no way I'm going to miss it.

Slate
12-20-2007, 02:41 PM
I'm going to send halo 3 back to gamefly to rent this. I'll post my opinions on it when I get it, But I haven't played the original.

Garry Silljo
12-20-2007, 04:41 PM
Does it still have the A-Life feature? None of the previews I read seemed to mention it. That was one of the best (and most impressive, interesting, unique, etc.) features of the original IMO; NiGHTS is one of the most replayable games of all time and that feature is partly why.

Yes, A-lifes are in this game too. There is something new called a "My Dream" that is sort of like a garden you can send A-lifes to. Then you interact with them and shift and shape the garden to your pleasure. Weather in this area is dtermined by the Wii-Weather channel's most recent findings. I haven't fiddled too much this part yet. Right now I'm much interested in the main levels. I will be getting deeper into this game later tonight.

videogameking26
12-22-2007, 02:39 PM
I bought it but haven't opened it up yet...will once I finish a few more of my backlog list up first.

grolt
12-22-2007, 02:52 PM
I've been waiting years to play it, and finally bought it, but it will have to wait until Christmas until it gets unwrapped. I enjoyed reading everyone's impressions - I can't wait to see more. So the weather only changes in the My Dream section, or can the official levels be affected too? So do the A-Life creatures work like Mii's - can they flock to other consoles and such? I'm sure there are a lot of goodies that will only reveal themselves upon replay after replay, just like the original game.

Juganawt
12-22-2007, 05:30 PM
I've been playing the japanese one for a few weeks, and it's awesome. Not Original-Nights awesome, but still pretty damn great. I love it. Not a patch on the original, but still WELL worth buying.

diskoboy
12-22-2007, 07:25 PM
I wonder if the game will change to Christmas NiGHTS on Tuesday???

Garry Silljo
12-22-2007, 07:35 PM
I wonder if the game will change to Christmas NiGHTS on Tuesday???

I'm certainly going to check. If not in the regular levels, maybe there will be a xmas tree in the "my dream" area, or a special present where the treasure chest usually appears.

I've gotten a little deeper into the title and am liking it even more now. Some of those different levels have started to grow on me, and I'm looking high and low for all the drops for the fountain. The chameleon boss is somewhat of an ass bite though. I tried him three times in a row and never even found him once before time ran out, and then on my fourth try I got in like 5 seconds? It's more of a luck boss than a skill one, like the balloon guy you have to shoot to the top of the screen like a pinball game.

Cafeman
12-23-2007, 02:01 AM
After reading a few extremely disappointing and negative reviews, I held off buying and simply rented the game. I am not too far yet but from what I've experienced, those doom-doom negative reports greatly exaggerated the game's minor faults. I'm having fun and I must admit to feeling significant nostalgia and even excitement as I saw the new interpretation! Love the look and the music. Only squeeled like a little girl once or twice though.

I'll have to play more to be sure, but so far I do not mind NiGHTS having a voice. It mostly sounds like a british young boy that is perhaps voiced by a woman voice actor. It is not bad, certainly nothing like "Big the Cat's" voice, if you recall that. The cinemas ... just get thru them. Stupid that you cannot skip them, but so far from what I've seen, it is only the very beginning that you have to watch lengthy ones. Some sequences CAN be skipped by pressing the + button. And I find the close-up cinemas to hardly be as 'ugly' as reported elsewhere. Finally, the game in action is more vibrant than any screenshot I've seen so far.

Gameplay -- not quite as easy to control as the original, I noticed. There is just a tiny different feel when I paraloop, and at first I was missing some blue chips and paraloops until I adjusted. I've been using the nunchuk & remote & having no problems. Using the remote alone is truly as awful as reported elsewhere -- there is a lag as you move your cursor! You could probably play that way, but who would want to? Stick with nunchuk's 3D stick.

Bosses -- the bosses from the original NiGHTS game were a real treat, strange and different. So far in Journey of Dreams, I have fought one boss (a descendent of the original's "Puffy") twice, which was a nice surprise. First battle was smaller and easier; the second battle came a few stages later and it covers significantly more territory. You have to grab or drill-dash the fat ball jester higher and higher, smashing transparent blockades and walls as you go, until you finally pop it on the nightmare level's sharp fangs at the top. Super-strange yet awesome music, great visuals and frame rate here -- I was loving it even as I failed over&over. I saw Caf Jr fighting a magician / card-playing lizard boss -- neither of use could figure it out because it was so un-traditional. Which is a compliment!

The normal levels feel very similiar to the original but in truer 3D, perhaps a bit slower, with the camera angle a bit further back. Very very similar and I'm not really sure yet of the best ways to score high. Thus, I suspect there is a hidden level of depth to the levels that I haven't discovered yet. But it is different from the original's Bonus Time multi-laps concept so I'm not sure.

So far, I am enjoying the game, finding it a bit bewildering at times and growing more fun as I continue to acclimate to it. That's all for now.

Sothy
12-23-2007, 03:07 AM
I liked it the first time when it was called Nights on Saturn.

Of course many years have passed and only the most naive casual gamers would be interested by thi... oh..wait...Wii? Yeah it will sell.

grolt
12-25-2007, 04:27 AM
I busted this out today (finally) and totally echo Cafeman's sentiments. The original is definitely my favorite game (I still play it regularly trying to up my scores) and I had little hope for this, since Sega has changed hands so much, and really, how can you better a masterpiece. Thankfully, Journey doesn't try to just remake the original - it really expands upon it. Like Cafeman said, it was just a real trip getting more immersed in the NiGHTS world. They really made it a vivid place, and both the screenshots and the videos really don't do it justice. The music in the game is phenomenal - as an avid lover of the original music, this one kept some of the same harmonies, but really added a lot of new music that is true in spirit. Great stuff.

With the online scores, and the totally unique "My Dream" area, this will surely have the replay value that the original had. Let's remember, too, that the original got fairly lukewarm reviews initially, due to its short length, etc. So I can only assume the same here, because already, after a few hours of play, I'm really into it. Of course it will never be the Saturn NiGHTS, but in a way that's the best part, it's a new journey with a familiar friend. Oh, and this is probably the first time, uh, ever, that Sega's actually made a game with some solid voice acting. I was actually quite amazed. How far we've come from THE HOUSE OF THE DEAD.

My biggest problem so far is the controls, but not so much the schemes, which are nice (and the options of using the remote, the remote and nunchuck, or the Gamecube controller) is a real plus. The problem is that the nunchuck, and to a lesser degree the Gamecube controller, both have bevelled thumbsticks, which can make it really hard to keep your grip on throughout a run without having to adjust it and mess up your link. That's why the Saturn controller was (and still is) perfect - you let your finger rest in that groove and you can fly forever. I've only just started at it though, I know it took me awhile to get a handle on the sensitive Saturn control as well.

Still, great game, and I was a disbeliever through the whole production phase. The reviews have definitely been WAY too harsh. If you're a fan of the original, give this a shot, for sure.

And for those wondering: The My Dream section plays the Christmas NiGHTS "jingle bells" theme on Christmas Day. Gotta love that! I wonder what other little extras will be thrown in for the other dates...

Cafeman
12-26-2007, 10:38 PM
I returned the game this morning with some regret - I wasted $8 at Blockbuster renting a game I will certainly buy. It dawned on me that I was humming the Dreams, Dreams tune in the car going to work.

Yes, I again must say the reports of NiGHTS' ruination at the hands of some 21st century incarnation of Sonic Team have been greatly exaggerated! I beat the game with Will and Helen. The bosses rock the house, I also enjoyed some of the extra missions such as paralooping Nightopeans (to save them!) and chasing the Octopaw (don't like the name or the intro scenes, but the Octopaw levels themselves are addicting fun, kind of akin to Burnout's Crash mode as you try better links in a little limited level).

Mark my words, all NiGHTS fans - you will GEEK OUT when you reach the final city level with Will or Helen. I also can report the voice acting and portrayal of Wizeman and his henchman Reala are perfectly satisfying and very dark. IN fact, all of the voice acting is very professionally done, but some of the writing is extremely lesson-heavy and cheesy, but who cares. Replaying levels trying to get A's and finding dream drops, you dont' need to watch those cinemas anymore.

Yep, I beat the game but with some lousy scores. I'm going to wait a few weeks and buy NiGHTS Journey of Dreams, maybe it'll drop in price.

Slate
12-30-2007, 12:09 AM
I just played it and I don't know if I can express how I feel about it, It is such a good game! It actually gets you emotionally! Keep in mind that I never played the original, Though.

I've only played a few missions but It is a wonderful game! The music is also wonderful!! If anyone gave this less than a 9 out of 10 then they must be blind to what good games are!

PsychoCandy
12-30-2007, 12:55 AM
I'm still debating picking this one up. I played the original to death at a friends house but I've been reading very mixed reviews, Mostly concerning the controls. From people who have it, are the controls that difficult, or just a minor problem?

Garry Silljo
12-30-2007, 10:54 PM
I'm still debating picking this one up. I played the original to death at a friends house but I've been reading very mixed reviews, Mostly concerning the controls. From people who have it, are the controls that difficult, or just a minor problem?


I used the Wii-mote + nunchuck control scheme and it didnt take me more than a few minutes of looping around and such to get the hang of it. The Wii-mote only controls didn't work out so well for me.

Slate
12-31-2007, 11:47 AM
I'm still debating picking this one up. I played the original to death at a friends house but I've been reading very mixed reviews, Mostly concerning the controls. From people who have it, are the controls that difficult, or just a minor problem?

The controls were confusing to me at first and I had to configure the Wiimote sensitivity. But now Nights is literally like a dream! :)

crazyjackcsa
01-02-2008, 11:45 AM
I got this for christmas, and have ben enjoying the standard levels, not sure about some of the other ones. Saving Nightopians was cool. Pushing water bubbles wasn't. Octopaw was cool, river rafting wasn't so great. I love the game, the voice overs trouble me a little bit. Owl Will and Reala work for me. I wish Nights was I liked the idea of nights being gender netural and the voice doesn't do that for me. All and all, it's a great Game and a worthy sequel, not sure if it was worth the wait. And the Music? From the "sonic Team" opening, It is pitch perfect. All the sound effects you remember and more.