Turbo Grafx and PC-Engine Questions

[Dragon Warrior Jasen]

So far from what I have read, the two are one in the same. TG16 - US Name, PC Engine - Japan.

I have a TG-16, want the CD Add-On (So i can play my copy of Dracula X for PC Engine). Also was looking at getting the Super System Card to addon to make it more like a real Turbo Duo.

That being said, can I use the Super System Card imported from Japan? They seem to be a lot cheaper.

Also, if anyone has any better info on the TG16/PC Engine lay it on me. I never really took too much time to learn anything about the thing and its one of the next setups Id like to have more of :)

[theoakwoody]

It sounds like you are starting out the same way I did with TG16/PC Engine stuff. I was curious about all the hoopla so I invested in a CD Attachment as well as a hucard convertor and a bunch of games. I lucked out on the converter as someone was selling them in bulk so I got mine for $30 but I know that usually they go for upwards of $60 or more. After playing around with the system it wasn't my bag and I haven't really done much with it since beating Dracula X, Ninja Spirit, and Ys. I liked Ys alot so I'm looking at buying IV and burning the translation patch but that's about it. I'm not big into Shmups, which is what the system excels in, so I've kind of lost interest. I still enjoy reading about the system and its games but I sadly am not cool and trendy and tend to lean towards "mainstream" games.

I've always been curious about the NEO Geo as well but I'm not into fighters so I know that if I spent the money the system would sit. I think each system has its treasures that draw people in but unless there are a lot of games that are really going to hold your attention you should think twice before investing a ton of money.

I've learned the hard way but fortunately if you are unhappy with something you can usually resell it for about what you paid for it. The beauty of classic gaming is that prices don't fluctuate that quickly so I guess buy up whatever you can and if its not to your liking find someone else who wants to give it a try.

[Dragon Warrior Jasen]

Well, if you want to sell any of it let me know...

Neo Geo is my next big purchase. Samurai Showdown is one of my most favorite aracade games, even though I am horrible. Plus, I remember one jerk kid in elementary school that got one for xmas and bragged about it so much that it made me want one so bad... now I can afford it, so i may just get it!

[ubersaurus]

If you've got a US Turbo, the Japanese cards won't work in it without an adaptor. This includes the system cards.

[Soviet Conscript]

if your getting into tg-16/PCE i would suggest getting a region modded Duo-R. there not really very expensive and if you get it region modded you can play US and JP HU cards as well as the CD games without worrying about the cards, except for the arcade card. though if you already have a tg-16 and a cd attachment i guess that may be wasteful.

you mentioned Neo-Geo. if you want to get into that but are not sure about liking it. go the MVS route. it may be a little more expensive but in the long run with games you save a ton.

[Gentlegamer]

The best source for info on the various TG-16 and PC Engine consoles is www.pcenginefx.com

[eastbayarb]

I have the following for sale:

1. USA Turbo Duo System (plays Hu cards and Super CD games). Comes with one controller, AC adaptor, and A/V cable. Works great!
2. 64mb Neo PC-E flash cart with USB programmer - lets you load PC Engine/TG16 Hu Card ROMS. Built in menu and easy to use. Includes original package.
3. PC engine to Playstation controller adaptor - allows you to use Playstation/Playstation 2 controllers with the Turbo Duo system. I will try to find an extra controller to throw in. Includes original package
4. Hard Drive with nearly every CD/Hu card ROM for this system

PRICE: $400 FIRM SHIPPED VIA USPS PRIORITY WITH DELIVERY CONFIRMATION. DO NOT ASK TO GO ANY LOWER! I am only able to ship within the continental USA ONLY.

email eastbayarb@gmail.com (I do not answer to private messages or to the forum.

sorry but my digital camera was lost recently and I cannot take pics!

[Tron 2.0]

One word region mod it for a TG16 any ways.

Realy it's that simple given converters for it are too costly these days.

I recomend it since a jpn 3.0 super system card is "cheaper" and is more common compare to the u.s one.

Heck even a (arcade pro card) would work just as well too.

Just a suggestion if you wanna play any scd game since dracula x is one.

The,other option of corse is getting a duo-r or rx since is has the 3.0 built in all ready.

[XYXZYZ]

I have a Japanese Duo. All the games that interest me are Japanese, so I have no need for converters.

[Ze_ro]

I have a TG-16, want the CD Add-On (So i can play my copy of Dracula X for PC Engine). Also was looking at getting the Super System Card to addon to make it more like a real Turbo Duo.
You do realize that you NEED the Super System Card to play Dracula X, right? It won't work with the original System Card.


One word region mod it for a TG16 any ways.

Realy it's that simple given converters for it are too costly these days.
Agreed. Converters are expensive these days for some reason. Very strange considering how simple the device is... I wish the connectors were more easily available.


Heck even a arcade pro card would just as well too.
If you're going to go the Japanese route, just get an Arcade Card and forget about the other ones. The Arcade Card has all the features of the Super System Card and then some... plus, it's usually cheaper and easier to find than the Super System Card. Just make sure you get the Arcade Card *PRO* unless you have a Duo... in which case the Arcade Card Duo is a bit cheaper.


The,other option of corse is getting a duo-r or rx since is has the 3.0 built in all ready.
Pre-modded Duo-R(X)'s are pretty common on eBay for a little over $200... It's generally cheaper than getting a North American Duo, or TG16+CD+SSC combo.

--Zero

[Dragon Warrior Jasen]

Yes I KNOW I NEED that card.

Edit, sorry, didnt mean that to be a dick sentence. I know I need that card, I like to collect as much random stuff as possible... so more than likely ill end up with the Duo-R and a TG-16 with all the monster addons... FWIW, i am one of the crazy people that like the Genesis, 32X, CD mamoth because it looks so cool!

[bust3dstr8]

If you like monstrosities go for the Super Grafx and Super CD ROM2 @_@

It only had about 5 games released and will enhance some, like the Darius games.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/PCEngine_SuperGrafx_with_SuperCDRom2.jpg/800px-PCEngine_SuperGrafx_with_SuperCDRom2.jpg

[Dragon Warrior Jasen]

That Is Awesome!

[Ze_ro]

If you like monstrosities go for the Super Grafx and Super CD ROM2 @_@
Even worse, they made an adapter so you could hook the SGX into the old white briefcase-style PC-E CD-ROM. The resulting mess makes the 32X look like an engineering marvel. I can't seem to find a picture of the whole setup, but here's the adapter:

http://www6.airnet.ne.jp/wataru/pce/pce_phot/sg_ad.jpg

Hook an SGX onto the black end of it, and stuff the white end into the briefcase, and you have quite possibly the least attractive setup in gaming history! And you'd still need a System 3.0 or Arcade Card in order to play anything but the earliest CD games. I've always wanted to get this stuff and set it up just for shits and giggles. For a sense of scale, the white part is the same size as the original PC-Engine. Why the black end is so big is a mystery to me.

--Zero

[Ze_ro]

Oh, and for the hardest of hardcore PC Engine fans, here's the SuperGrafx Power Console:

http://tengokugame.free.fr/dossier_collector/power_consolep.jpg

This giant controller is apparently meant to fit ON TOP of the SuperGrafx! I don't know why they thought that would be a good idea... they put cords on controllers for a reason... in any case, it's one of the rarest things in raretown.

--Zero

[tomaitheous]

I have the SuperGrafx+Super CDROM2 and the original white PC Engine with the original side mounting white CD unit... both are very sexy! The CoreGrafx and the SUPER CDROM2 unit is also a cool looking setup.

Also, the Super CDROM2 has the system card 3.0 built in.

[xaer0knight]

your forgetting IMO the rarest game of them all:

Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire (HUDSON SOFT)
ARCADE CARD CD-ROM2 (JAPANESE VERSION)

http://www.pcengine.com.br/sapphire/Cd_2f22.gif

Review (http://www.pcengine.com.br/sapphire/sapphire.htm)
YouTube Video of Stage 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OX_TxLtQA8)

A solid game, excellent soundtrack, and using YES POLYGONS... What the hell? Polygons.. Thanks to the Arcade System Card you get 3 MB of Video RAM.. Thats a huge amount and too bad not a lot of games used the Arcade card.

[schnuth]

your forgetting IMO the rarest game of them all:

Ginga Fukei Densetsu Sapphire (HUDSON SOFT)
ARCADE CARD CD-ROM2 (JAPANESE VERSION)

A solid game, excellent soundtrack, and using YES POLYGONS... What the hell? Polygons.. Thanks to the Arcade System Card you get 3 MB of Video RAM.. Thats a huge amount and too bad not a lot of games used the Arcade card.

I love Sapphire's soundtrack. I ripped mine to my iPod and listen to it at work all the time. Gotta love those synth guitars.

If your looking for an affordable but not too terribly official copy of Sapphire, you might want to check out this website:

http://sapphire.anime4ever.de/

Aaron

[miaandjohnrule]

I love Sapphire's soundtrack. I ripped mine to my iPod and listen to it at work all the time. Gotta love those synth guitars.

If your looking for an affordable but not too terribly official copy of Sapphire, you might want to check out this website:

http://sapphire.anime4ever.de/

Aaron


Has anyone done buisness there? I might have to get that one, it looks amazing!

[MarioMania]

Look's like a 1 gen Saturn/PSX Game

[miaandjohnrule]

Look's like a 1 gen Saturn/PSX Game
Another country heard from.

[c0ldb33r]

If you like monstrosities go for the Super Grafx and Super CD ROM2 @_@

It only had about 5 games released and will enhance some, like the Darius games.
So I've got a question about that. What does Darius Plus look like in a Super Grafx? I've played the PCE version quite a bit and seen videos on youtube of the SG version, and they look the exact same. I've been trying to look for extra scrolling layers or ANYTHING... and I can't see one lick of difference.

[Ze_ro]

Maybe it's more a matter of using the SuperGrafx hardware to do things that otherwise take extra processing cycles on the PC Engine, thus producing the same graphics, but with improved frame rate? I have no idea. I have the game on the way though, and I'm curious about this myself. If I figure it out, I'll try to remember to post my findings.

--Zero

[staxx]

Darius Plus has less flickering on the Super Grafx

[tomaitheous]

It doesn't do much of anything. In the PCE version, the sprites make up the 'overlapping' BG layers. For SGX mode, all they did was relocate those sprites to the second video processor. They didn't even make them into a second BG layer. They're still sprites o_O

Someone mentioned something about bosses, but I don't remember anything different there between the two.

It's not an SGX game. It's a PCE game with a tiny/cheap modification to reduce flicker when plugged into an SGX.

[Tempest]

A Turbo Duo with a Kisado adapter (and optional Arcade Duo card) is the way to go. You'll be able to play everything in the TG/PCE library except the 6 Supergrafx games. This is what I use for my setup and it really isn't that expensive. The only downside is that the Turbo Duo is kind of fragile (poor build quality).

Tempest

[c0ldb33r]

So if I understand this correctly, Darius Plus looks the same between the two, the different systems just accomplish this in different ways?

That's ridiculous.

[Adol]

It "looks" the same if you're talking grpahics ,but it doesn't move the same,since it has less flickerings.