Problem auction with one of our own. Thoughts?

[GarrettCRW]

I've discussed this with the other #vbender regulars, so it's time to resurrect this thread.

So, anyways, I win a few of Anthony1's auctions, with this one (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280170201919&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123) featuring a stock photo. So, after paying (which involved waiting for a check re-order-yay!), I get the games on Saturday. And here's what Mega Man Xtreme 2 looked like:

http://www.cartoonreviewsite.com/DSCF1074.gif

Totally not what I was expecting. Granted, it's not the incident with the Turbo Tap, but it's a definite case of a misleading auction.

[Blitzwing256]

glad I never dealt with him, what an ass ;-)

[guitargary75]

:puke:

[boatofcar]

I've discussed this with the other #vbender regulars, so it's time to resurrect this thread.

So, anyways, I win a few of Anthony1's auctions, with this one (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280170201919&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123) featuring a stock photo. So, after paying (which involved waiting for a check re-order-yay!), I get the games on Saturday. And here's what Mega Man Xtreme 2 looked like:


Totally not what I was expecting. Granted, it's not the incident with the Turbo Tap, but it's a definite case of a misleading auction.

What's misleading about the auction? I see no mention of condition other than that it's working. You knew it was a stock photo when you bid--if you were concerned about condition why didn't you ask before bidding?

[kainemaxwell]

And this folks is why you bid on auctions with REAL photos of the items you're going to be bidding on, and not generic stock photos.

Anthony, you've been here long enough, you should really include real photos of your items you're trying to sell. You'll probably have better luck. Also try selling more in the Spring too.

[carlcarlson]

Not to start anything, but don't you think going to Anthony with your problem would be more productive than publicly flaming him? Just saying.

[PingvinBlueJeans]

...don't you think going to Anthony with your problem would be more productive than publicly flaming him?

Probably, but it's not nearly as fun.

[thjufgikig]

It's a great time to get good deals...

[boatofcar]

Not to start anything, but don't you think going to Anthony with your problem would be more productive than publicly flaming him? Just saying.

This is the air-all-the-dirty-laundry-you've-ever-had-as-well-as-pile-on Anthony1 thread.

[suckerpunch5]

I've discussed this with the other #vbender regulars, so it's time to resurrect this thread.

So, anyways, I win a few of Anthony1's auctions, with this one (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280170201919&ssPageName=ADME:X:AAQ:US:1123) featuring a stock photo. So, after paying (which involved waiting for a check re-order-yay!), I get the games on Saturday. And here's what Mega Man Xtreme 2 looked like:

http://www.cartoonreviewsite.com/DSCF1074.gif

Totally not what I was expecting. Granted, it's not the incident with the Turbo Tap, but it's a definite case of a misleading auction.


Wow, you got that game from a $4 auction just because you were hoping to nail Anthony1, and then after you get exactly what the auction says you will get, you negative feedback him. A previously 100% feedback gets marred because you set him up. It doesn't sound like Anthony1 is the person acting maliciously here.

way to go detective. you exposed the jerk

[-_-Nintendo-_-]

Even though a stock photo was used, I believe he should have atleast mentioned a rather large flaw with the the product. In this case a rather damaged label.

[gepeto]

Even though a stock photo was used, I believe he should have atleast mentioned a rather large flaw with the the product. In this case a rather damaged label.


Yeah but man the auction was 4.00. To neg him for that is just plain lowdown. 95 percent of the gameboy games left at gamecrazy have flaws creases cracks & tears. To have issues is one thing but to take it to a deeper personal level is another. Especially when I am sure he would have paid back the 4.00 plus shipping.


To stomp on the mans ebays reputation record for that is hardcore.

[Dazz07]

I will consider myself a neutral party. I would never leave negative feedback for a four dollar gameboy game with a faded label. You obviously bought the game for one of two reasons. The first is to play the game, and the second is because you figured something would be wrong with it because of the stock photo and you wanted to flame this guy. 99.9% of people that would have bought that would have been happy with it. That is low down and dirty.

[boatofcar]

Woah. I had no idea you left him negative feedback. GarrettCRW, you're a tool.

[Cmosfm]

Man Garrett, that sucks. I seen you left him a well deserved negative feedback, I'm just glad you've been happy with everything you've bought from me. :)

[GarrettCRW]

Wow, you got that game from a $4 auction just because you were hoping to nail Anthony1, and then after you get exactly what the auction says you will get, you negative feedback him.

Bullshit. I bid on the damn auction because:

A) It was cheap.

B) He was a DP regular, and I figured that, as with Nebrezca and cmosfm (who I've both bought a ton of stuff from), that it'd go well.

So, even after the high shipping (even after the markdown that was inspired no doubt by this thread) and the utter brick wall that has been Anthony1 in this thread, I was confident that the games would be in proper working and cosmetic order, especially since we all know that Anthony1 can be heavy on the details. If that makes me a tool, then so be it.

[InsaneDavid]

The Game Boy Color doesn't display in RGB, so Anthony1 really didn't care about the condition.

[Oobgarm]

I can understand the frustration with the cart condition. I'm sure I'd not be pleased were I in your shoes.

But you have to remember this:

No description of condition was given. It was up to YOU to ask. We're not talking the functionality of the item, only the cosmetics. This is completely different from the TurboTap incident-I don't think there were intentions to mislead anyone.

Everyone who blindly buys stock-photo auctions deserves to have this occur to them; hopefully early on in their eBay use, so they can understand that they need to ask questions and have to right to complain if they don't.

And leaving a neg wihtout trying to work things out(at least we haven't been told of such)? Man, that's just a straight-up dickheaded thing to do. It really makes it look like you wanted to ruin his 100% record. I'm sure you guys could have worked out a return or something.

I'm the last person anyone would expect to come to Anthony1's defense, but I'm really just pointing out that you're being an awfully big asshole about this.

[miaandjohnrule]

That is a dick move. It was four dolars, did you expect it to be factory sealed? This might be a case where you can work something out with the seller, why the neg? Are you giving him the negative over other repressed issues?

[Rob2600]

you got that game from a $4 auction


the auction was 4.00.


I would never leave negative feedback for a four dollar gameboy game


It was four dolars

For the record, the game didn't cost $4, it cost $7.95 ($4 plus $3.95 shipping).



Anthony, you've been here long enough, you should really include real photos of your items you're trying to sell.

Yes, he should. However, that would result in higher shipping rates. How so? Well, taking pictures takes time and cameras require batteries. Anthony1 (known as Tap Dat Azz on eBay) charges winning bidders for his time and energy. To quote the description in his auctions:

"there are alot of hidden costs when it comes to shipping. My shipping fees not only cover the cost of the actual shipping charge at the post office, but also all of the materials used in packaging the item, the time spent getting the item ready and packaging the item (which I take great care with), the gas used to drive to and from the post office, and the time waiting in line at the post office, etc, etc."

[sisko]

I'm the last person anyone would expect to come to Anthony1's defense, but I'm really just pointing out that you're being an awfully big asshole about this.

Quoted for truth.

[miaandjohnrule]

For the record, the game didn't cost $4, it cost $7.95 ($4 plus $3.95 shipping).



We're arguing semantics at this point. The game costs $4 and the shipping costs 3.95. I was trying to point out that he didn't exactly spend an arm and a leg on the item.

[stuffedmonkey]

All this drama over a 4$ game??? I would like to say, that Anthony1 still has a higher feedback percentage than you...

Please don't ever bid on any of my auctions.

[Anthony1]

Oh my goodness, this dude is a DP member to boot? What a fucking ass. Ok, punk bitch, listen up. I have a box at my Father-In-Law's house with about 20 various gameboy, gameboy color and gameboy advance games. The games are at his house, because his grandsons come over quite a bit (two of them mine), and they have gameboy systems there to play if they get really bored. I was listing a bunch of gameboy color games on Ebay, and I think every game I was planning to sell, but that one game was at my house. The Mega Man one was still in the box at my father-in-laws house.

Now, when i'm listing games, I get on a roll, and I try to list as many games as possible. I'm not going to stop, drive all the way to my father-in-laws house, grab the game, take it home and take pictures of it. Fuck that. I'll just use a stock photo. Normally I never use stock photos, but these are exactly the kind of circumstances when I do. Ok, so I use a fucking stock photo. NOWHERE in the auction do I mention anything about the condition of the game. Why? Because I honestly didn't remember what condition it was in. I've got too many gameboy carts to remember the condition of each cart.

So this punk bitch ends up bidding on four of my games. I send him an invoice. Never hear from him. Email him and ask him if he ever plans on paying for the games he bidded on. Never hear from him. So many days go by, and finally I decide to file a non paying bidder thing, to at least get my final value fee's back. So, now, after that, the dude finally decides to send a check. I wait for the check to clear my bank, and then I ship out the guys games.

Now, a few weeks later, I'm on Ebay, and I notice I got a new feedback, and I check it, and the motherfucker gives me a negative. Understand that my Ebay rating before this motherfucker was 100 percent. 100 percent, with 384 transactions. This motherfucker decides to give me a negative, because one of the games wasn't in pristine condition, yet, the particular game had a stock photo and made no mention whatsoever of the condition.

I don't know about you, but when I see something on Ebay that has a stock photo, if i'm interested in that item, and I want the item to be in a particular condition, I contact the guy and try to find out the exact condtion before bidding on it. If I had bidded on a game with a stock photo, and there was no mention of the condition of the item in the description, and I end up getting a game with a ripped label and rental stickers all over it, then it's my own damn fault.


Have a nice day

[Anthony1]

Unfucking believable. The more I think about this, the more pissed I'm getting. So this motherfucker didn't even bid on my games but for any other reason, than to ruin my 100 percent feedback. He prolly bidded on 4 games, hoping there might be a problem with one of the 4, to get any possible excuse, to give me a negative feedback and ruin my 100 percent rating.

You truly are a punk bitch. If I ever see you in person I'm going to fucking beat your ass down.

[kainemaxwell]

I don't know about you, but when I see something on Ebay that has a stock photo, if i'm interested in that item, and I want the item to be in a particular condition, I contact the guy and try to find out the exact condtion before bidding on it. If I had bidded on a game with a stock photo, and there was no mention of the condition of the item in the description, and I end up getting a game with a ripped label and rental stickers all over it, then it's my own damn fault.

You should take your own advice. if you're using a stock photo, mention any imperfects on label, disc/cart condition, etc. Especially if you don't have access to a camera at that point.

Much as we may not like Anthony1, what that seller did just to fuck him over was wrong. I hope karma catches up with you soon, bro.

[Rob2600]

Unfucking believable. The more I think about this, the more pissed I'm getting. So this motherfucker didn't even bid on my games but for any other reason, than to ruin my 100 percent feedback. He prolly bidded on 4 games, hoping there might be a problem with one of the 4, to get any possible excuse, to give me a negative feedback and ruin my 100 percent rating.

You truly are a punk bitch. If I ever see you in person I'm going to fucking beat your ass down.

Wow, calm down. eBay feedback doesn't have to be 100% perfect to be taken seriously or to be trusted. Plenty of people and companies with 98% and 99% positive feedback sell items on eBay all the time. What's the big deal?

Besides, if you had done your auction properly in the first place, the winning bidder would have had nothing to complain about. If you don't have time to take pictures of items, don't list them on eBay. Likewise, if you don't have time to inspect your items and write thorough descriptions of them, don't list them on eBay.

Even if I win an item for $1, I expect its description to be accurate and honest.

Instead of getting angry and making threats via a video game message board, why not view this as a learning experience: stop being lazy with your eBay auctions. ALWAYS include clear, accurate descriptions and photos for your items. That's just common sense.



if you're using a stock photo, mention any imperfects on label, disc/cart condition, etc. Especially if you don't have access to a camera at that point.

You don't get it. Anthony1 couldn't mention any imperfections on the label because he didn't have the item with him. He didn't even remember what condition it was in. It's lazy, sloppy, and unfair to his customers.

In a situation like that, where the item is at someone else's house, don't list it on eBay. Wait until you actually have possession of the item. Duh.

[Anthony1]

You should take your own advice. if you're using a stock photo, mention any imperfects on label, disc/cart condition, etc. Especially if you don't have access to a camera at that point.

Much as we may not like Anthony1, what that seller did just to fuck him over was wrong. I hope karma catches up with you soon, bro.


Umm, I guess you didn't read my post. I didn't have the game on hand. That's why I used a stock photo. The only time I use a stock photo, is when the game isn't on hand, or my digital camera has a dead battery or something along those lines. I used real photos in 95 percent of my auctions, but occasionally the game won't be on hand (at a friends house, at my father-in-law's, at my brother-in-law's, etc, etc), or if my wife has the digital camera or stuff like that.

Also, I have hundreds of games, and don't have the condition of them memorized. The game he bought had a faded label. Big fucking deal. It's not like it was covered with rental stickers and names written in permanent ink. I would have had zero problem taking a photo of that game. Contrary to popular belief, 90 pecent of the people that buy my games could care less if the cart is mint or not. They just want to play a working game.

[Rob2600]

I didn't have the game on hand. That's why I used a stock photo. The only time I use a stock photo, is when the game isn't on hand, or my digital camera has a dead battery or something along those lines.

Again, in a situation where you don't have access to the item or a camera, don't list the item on eBay. Wait until you actually have possession of the item and are able to take photos. That way, you can provide your customers with photos and an honest description.

[Anthony1]

Wow. Calm down. eBay feedback doesn't have to be 100% perfect to be taken seriously or to be trusted. Plenty of people and companies with 98% and 99% positive feedback sell items on eBay all the time. What's the big deal?

Besides, if you had done your auction properly in the first place, the winning bidder would have had nothing to complain about. If you don't have time to take pictures of items, don't list them on eBay. Likewise, if you don't have time to inspect your items and write thorough descriptions of them, don't list them on eBay.

Even if I win an item for $1, I expect its description to be accurate and honest.

Instead of getting angry and making threats via a video game message board, why not view this as a learning experience: stop being lazy with your eBay auctions. ALWAYS include clear, accurate descriptions and photos for your items. That's just common sense.




You don't get it. Anthony1 couldn't mention any imperfections on the label because he didn't have the item with him. He didn't even remember what condition it was in. It's lazy, sloppy, and unfair to bidders.

In a situation like that, where the item is at someone else's house, don't list it on eBay. Wait until you actually have possession of the item. Duh.



Why the hell does Ebay allow people to use stock photos? Gee, I don't know... maybe because of reasons like I already mentioned? Most people use stock photos out of pure laziness, you're right. But I don't use it out of pure laziness. I use it in the rare instance that the game isn't readily available, or my digital camera isn't readily available. This accounts for like 3 or 4 percent of the time I list things on Ebay. It's pretty rare. Normally, I will have a stack of 20 games, and will take pictures of all 20 games, and then list them on Ebay.


But if I do happen to list an item on Ebay with a stock photo, who gives a fuck? I mean come on. There are thousands of people buying games on Ebay, that only care if the game works or not. They don't give a fuck if the label is mint, or if the sticker on the back of a SNES cart is damaged or not. I've bought many a game on Ebay myself, and the game arrives dirty, with names written in permanent ink on the back of the cart, sticky residue all over the place, discolored labels. But I didn't cry about it. You know why I didn't cry? Cause I'm not an anal-rententive collector. I'm just trying to play the damn game. Also, a major reason why I don't cry under those scenarios, is because anytime I see a stock photo, I expect the cart to look like that, and if it turns out to be in much better condition than that, then great. But it's honestly not a big deal to me, cause I'm not a collector. I'm a gamer. I just want to play the games. There are actually 10 times more people like that buying games on Ebay, than the anal-rententive collector types. This might come as a shock, because there are a huge percentage of collectors that frequent these boards, so they might assume that everybody else on Ebay is just like them, but they are actually a very tiny minority.

I defintiely prefer to use real photos, when possible, but I'm not going to avoid listing things on Ebay, just cause my digital camera isn't working, or because one of my games is at a friends house. I will still list the game, but I'll just have to use a stock photo. There have been many times when I've used a stock photo, and the game was super mint,and maybe I could have squeezed a few more bucks out of the auction, but I didn't have the game at my house, and didn't have time to get it right then, and was just trying to list a bunch of games. When I list games on Ebay, I list games in furries. I list a bunch at one time. I will list like 50 or something games over a couple of days, and then I won't list anything again for months. That's the way I do it. During those couple of days when I'm listing stuff, I'm going off a inventory list on my PC. Normally, I will have 90 percent of the items on hand, but not always, because I'm always letting my brother-in-law borrow games, or they are at my father-in-law's house, cause my kids took them over there, or whatever.

I will continue to use stock photos on occasion, and I honestly don't think it's a very big deal. If somebody is looking for a super mint game, and they see a stock photo, they better ask before bidding. That's what I always do, if I'm concerned about the condition.

[Anthony1]

and an honest description.


Explain to me, what wasn't honest in the description. There was nothing dishonest in the description. The buyer simply assumed I was trying to hide the fact that the label was faded. I honestly don't give a rats ass about faded labels, and would never try to hide some shit like that. Like oh yeah...."If I hide the fact that this Mega Man game has a faded label, I'm likely to get an extra dollar for my auction. WHOOPIE!!!!".

Please.

[Rob2600]

It tickles me that you people still talk to Anthony1 like he were a rational human being. Anthony1 is an object, incapable of adaptation and reason.

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1274601

Oh, yeah.

[Bratwurst]

Negative feedback isn't the end of the world. Lord knows eBay needs more of it, instead of being populated by a bunch of simpering worms afraid of hurting somebody's feelings.

In fact I'll hurt your feelings right now, c'mere, I'll punch those feelings in the face, then dry hump it a bunch of times, teach those feelings a good lesson!

[Garry Silljo]

If that makes me a tool, then so be it.

You're not a tool. Anthony1 is scum. The price of the game should not have a bearing on feedback. The feedback reflects how the deal went, and it went bad, no matter how little the cost. You should be praised for warning people. I'm sure a lot of other people would have made the mistake of trusting him. Hopefully now they won't.

[kainemaxwell]

Anthony1, calm down and go play some video games in RGB till you feel better.

[Anthony1]

You're not a tool. Anthony1 is scum. The price of the game should not have a bearing on feedback. The feedback reflects how the deal went, and it went bad, no matter how little the cost. You should be praised for warning people. I'm sure a lot of other people would have made the mistake of trusting him. Hopefully now they won't.


Warning people about what? mistake of trusting me? You have to be kidding. This is a freaking Ebay auction, with a stock photo, and no mention whatsoever of the condition of the cart. Nevermind the reason why it was a stock photo with no mention of the condtion, nobody put a gun to this retards head and forced him to bid on this auction. Any logical person concerned with the condtion of the cart, would have sent a message to the seller asking the condition before bidding on it. Here is what any logical, rational, person would do, assuming they actually care about the physical condtion:


Potential Buyer: "I'm curious as to the condition of the Mega Man cart in your auction. There is a stock photo and no mention is made to the condition.

Seller: "That game is actually at my father-in-law's house right now. I'm not sure of the exact condition of the cart, but I know it works. If you like, I can go by his house tomorrow, get the cart, and put a picture on the auction and a detailed description"


This is exactly what I would have done, had anyone asked me this question. But the dumbass didn't ask any question. It turns out that the game has a faded label. Oh the horrah in that! A faded label on a misc gameboy color game! Oh my goodness! What a total complete scumbag that would sell such a thing!




Negative feedback isn't the end of the world.


True, it definitely isn't the end of the world. At the same time, if you had a 100 percent rating from 384 unique people, since May of 2003, you'd like your first negative feedback to be a legimate one. Not a setup from some dude on a forum that was looking for any reason possible to ruin your perfect record.

[Mayhem]

Now let's all calm down here please... the thread has already gotten the attention of all the mods, so any more bitch hair pulling and screaming is gonna get it locked...

[Rob2600]

This is a freaking Ebay auction, with a stock photo, and no mention whatsoever of the condition of the cart.

Exactly! Why is there no mention of the condition? I know, I know...you didn't have the item in your possession when you posted the action. Guess what? Don't post an auction on eBay for an item that you don't have in front of you.


Potential Buyer: "I'm curious as to the condition of the Mega Man cart in your auction. There is a stock photo and no mention is made to the condition.

Seller: "That game is actually at my father-in-law's house right now. I'm not sure of the exact condition of the cart, but I know it works. If you like, I can go by his house tomorrow, get the cart, and put a picture on the auction and a detailed description"

Why should your customers have to contact you to find out about the condition of your items? That's bad business. Stop being lazy; include detailed descriptions in your auctions. And...once again...don't post auctions for items you don't have in front of you.

Maybe a thousand other eBay sellers post items with horrible, incomplete descriptions. Forget about them and take pride in your auctions.


It turns out that the game has a faded label. Oh the horrah in that! A faded label on a misc gameboy color game! Oh my goodness!

Now you're making fun of your customers and belittling your own products. More bad business practice.

True, not everyone who buys video games is a collector, but some are. Don't make assumptions about your winning bidders.


if you had a 100 percent rating from 384 unique people, since May of 2003, you'd like your first negative feedback to be a legimate one. Not a setup from some dude on a forum that was looking for any reason possible to ruin your perfect record.

A 100% feedback rating would mean you're a perfect eBay user, which clearly you're not. Your auctions are sloppy and lazy and you overcharge for shipping. Consider yourself lucky that you've only ever received negative feedback once.


It tickles me that you people still talk to Anthony1 like he were a rational human being. Anthony1 is an object, incapable of adaptation and reason.

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1274601

I keep forgetting that.

[Anthony1]

Now let's all calm down here please... the thread has already gotten the attention of all the mods, so any more bitch hair pulling and screaming is gonna get it locked...

I would personally like to ask the mods to let this thread run it's natural course. This dude is attacking my integrity, and if the thread is closed now, he will be let off the hook for his despicable actions. This thread needs to live, so he can reap the bad karma he deserves.

[Anthony1]

Exactly! Why is there no mention of the condition? I know, I know...you didn't have the item in your possession when you posted the action. Guess what? Don't post an auction on eBay for an item that you don't have in front of you.



Why should your customers have to contact you to find out about the condition of your items? That's bad business. Stop being lazy; include detailed descriptions in your auctions. And...once again...don't post auctions for items you don't have in front of you.

Maybe a thousand other eBay sellers post items with horrible, incomplete descriptions. Forget about them and take pride in your auctions.



Now you're making fun of your customers and belittling your own products. More bad business practice.

True, not everyone who buys video games is a collector, but some are. Don't make assumptions about your winning bidders.



A 100% feedback rating would mean you're a perfect eBay user, which clearly you're not. Your auctions are sloppy and lazy and you overcharge for shipping. Consider yourself lucky that you've only ever received negative feedback once.



I keep forgetting that.



FUCK YOU

[Kid Ice]

I would personally like to ask the mods to let this thread run it's natural course.

When RCM threatened to beat zmweasel he had to go.

[Garry Silljo]

FUCK YOU

Wow, checkmate. looks like Anthony wins this one!

[The Shawn]

Exactly! Why is there no mention of the condition? I know, I know...you didn't have the item in your possession when you posted the action. Guess what? Don't post an auction on eBay for an item that you don't have in front of you.



Why should your customers have to contact you to find out about the condition of your items? That's bad business. Stop being lazy; include detailed descriptions in your auctions. And...once again...don't post auctions for items you don't have in front of you.

Maybe a thousand other eBay sellers post items with horrible, incomplete descriptions. Forget about them and take pride in your auctions.



Now you're making fun of your customers and belittling your own products. More bad business practice.

True, not everyone who buys video games is a collector, but some are. Don't make assumptions about your winning bidders.



A 100% feedback rating would mean you're a perfect eBay user, which clearly you're not. Your auctions are sloppy and lazy and you overcharge for shipping. Consider yourself lucky that you've only ever received negative feedback once.



I keep forgetting that.


$4 game, shouldn't have been a big deal. And if it was then hey er...."Ask!"

Would say this for anyone's defence.

Shawn

[Steven]

Bottom line: What Anthony1 did (restock photo) is not wrong, technically, though a bit underhanded to some extent.

What Garrett did was worse.

Solution: Post actual game picture, or a brief description that describes game's condition in future. It'll solve any messy situations like this one.

Case closed.

[scooby105]

This is why I just usually throw crappy games in the garbage or sell them in lots. It's not worth the effort.

[16-bit]

So the buyer left a negative feedback without first contacting the Anthony1?

That is really poor ebay etiquette.

...and a great example of why just paying for an item is not worthy of positive feedback alone.

Even with an actual photo, sellers sometimes screw up. We're all human. Give the seller a chance to correct the situation first.

[Rob2600]

So the buyer left a negative feedback without first contacting the Anthony1?

That is really poor ebay etiquette.

So is not posting a photo of the actual item or writing an accurate, detailed description.

[Market Man]

Threatenin' folks on the internet is serious business! I oversee the affairs of business! This is my domain!

Do you even know what GarrettCRW looks like? He might be a bear of a man that could tear your doughy ass in two like a twinkie to expose your creamy filling.

[Market Man's Crotch]

Remember, kids! This is Anthony1's customer service policy!


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[Anthony1]

Threatenin' folks on the internet is serious business! I oversee the affairs of business! This is my domain!

Do you even know what GarrettCRW looks like? He might be a bear of a man that could tear your doughy ass in two like a twinkie to expose your creamy filling.


Well, you know what, sure, he might be 7 feet tall, and built like a linebacker, but I sure as hell would give it the old college try. If I got my ass kicked, fine, but I sure as hell would make a run at it. I'm not going to go looking for this Garrett dude, but if somehow we crossed paths, blows would definitely be thrown.

The reality is, that this dude did a total setup. He had no interest in Mega Max Xtreme 2 for gameboy color. He bought it, with the intention of trying to ruin my perfect feedback record. There's no question in my mind about that. I actually had no idea the guy was a DP member till today. Had I known he was a DP member all along, I would have known it was a setup before. I don't offer combined shipping (long story why I don't), and this guy made bids on 4 auctions. He can read, he knows that I wasn't offering any combined shipping. So, he obviously was buying 4 games, hoping that one would have some kind of problem with it, so he could leave negative feedback. Otherwise it would make no sense to buy 4 games from the same seller if he doesn't offer combined shipping. I remember when I first saw that this dude had bought 4 games from me. It suprised me alot. I never get people buying multiple items from me at the same time. Reason being, I don't do combined shipping. (yeah, yeah, I know I should, blah, blah, blah) But I don't, and I have my reasons for that, and it's my perogative as a seller to offer that or not offer it. Anyways, at the time, his user name didn't ring any bells with me. I never thought he might be a DP member that had read that other thread. Now, everything makes perfect sense. The reason it didn't make sense before, was because it was a setup. It wasn't any real interest in those games. The games were priced cheap, and he figured it was a cheap gamble, to try to find something wrong with one of the 4 games to be able to leave negative feedback. That's just a punk thing to do, period. He mentioned the TurboTap thing, so he obviously read that other thread. He probably couldn't wait to post this thread. He probably had to clean himself up after his opening post.


Actually..... In all honesty, I wouldn't beat the dude down over a feedback. He did conspire to the setup, and had a little plan on how he was going to ruin my perfect feedback, but it's not worth going to jail for assault over it. So I wouldn't do that. But fuck would I be tempted. So fucking tempted.

[Vectorman0]

Well, you know what, sure, he might be 7 feet tall, and built like a linebacker, but I sure as hell would give it the old college try. If I got my ass kicked, fine, but I sure as hell would make a run at it. I'm not going to go looking for this Garrett dude, but if somehow we crossed paths, blows would definitely be thrown.

You are making the case for yourself much worse.

[Oobgarm]

When RCM threatened to beat zmweasel he had to go.

werd.

[sisko]

Wow. You're both assholes. :shameful:

[Rob2600]

this dude did a total setup. He had no interest in Mega Max Xtreme 2 for gameboy color. He bought it, with the intention of trying to ruin my perfect feedback record. ... he obviously was buying 4 games, hoping that one would have some kind of problem with it, so he could leave negative feedback. That's just a punk thing to do, period.

If you had included photos of the actual item and an accurate description in your auction, you would have avoided any attempts at being set-up.

Please learn a lesson from this: always include photos and thorough descriptions in your auctions. That way, there won't be any loopholes for shrewd buyers to exploit.

[GrandAmChandler]

Everyone settle down. Here are a few things to take back from this.

Garrett: Leaving a Negative was pretty uncool of you. I am sure Anthony1 being somewhat reasonable would have helped you out being a DP member. Also, you didn't really pay too much. I understand it's "the point" but settle it outside of DP.

Anthony1: Yeah, the games were somewhere else. You really shouldn't sell something that's not right in front of you. Who knows if it even worked! Actual photos in this business is a must. Also, when trolls are up against you, the best thing to do is walk away.

Everyone Else that likes to flame? Some of you long time members should be ashamed for adding fuel to the fire on this one. An argument between two people should be left that way, you guys only made it worse. Welcome to the moderation radar, congratulations you just made it to the top of the watch list.

If you want to discuss it further, take it outside of DP. This petty arguing is not only detrimental to the boards, but the entire community.

Not one more "Member X is an asshole" or "I am going to kick member Y's ass" in this thread. Otherwise, some people may have to leave. Not by choice. Remember kids, when you argue on the intrawebs, everyone loses.

-GAC-

[evil_genius]

The Game Boy Color doesn't display in RGB, so Anthony1 really didn't care about the condition.

LMFAO!

[Anthony1]

If you had included photos of the actual item and an accurate description in your auction, you would have avoided any attempts at being set-up.

Please learn a lesson from this: always include photos and thorough descriptions in your auctions. That way, there won't be any loopholes for shrewd buyers to exploit.


Millions of items are on Ebay right now with stock photos. You do know this right? You know that it's not illegal in any way to use a stock photo. Sure, it would be nice to have pictures of the actual real item in every single auction, but it's not a requirement. It's not illegal to have an auction with a stock photo. It's also not a requirement to describe in detail the condition of the label of the game.

The bottom line, is that I didn't have the item on hand, wanted to list it on Ebay anyways, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. The onus is on the buyer to ask any questions they have. Nobody is putting a gun to anybodies head forcing them to bid on something. It's their choice. If they decide to bid on a item with a stock photo, and no detailed description of the condition, then they really have nothing to complain about later. Ebay makes it 100 percent clear that all questions should be asked BEFORE bidding. This Garrett dude isn't some Ebay newbie. He knows this. The reason he didn't ask any question, is because it was a setup from the very beginning. He didn't want to know anything. He wanted to have any possible excuse to leave negative feedback.

Now certainly, had I been in this same situation, as a buyer, and say the game was Chrono Trigger for the SNES. Say somebody was selling Chrono Trigger for the SNES, and all it had was a stock photo, and no description of the condition of the label or anything, and I get the game, and it has a ripped label, and rental stickers all over it, then I'm sure the guy was actually trying to deliberately use a stock photo to get a higher auction price than he would have, had he used a real photo of the item. But even then, it's really my fault for not investigating the condition of the cart before hitting that final buy button.

In this case, we are talking about Mega Man Xtreme 2 for the color gameboy. Why on God's green earth would I try to not have a photo of this game on purpose? What, to get 50 cents more than I might have, had the picture shown a cart with a faded label? I mean, come on. That's laughable at best.

[RJ]

"Daddy's angry at the interweb again."

[Rob2600]

You know that it's not illegal in any way to use a stock photo. Sure, it would be nice to have pictures of the actual real item in every single auction, but it's not a requirement. ... It's also not a requirement to describe in detail the condition of the label of the game.

Of course. You're missing my point though:

If your eBay rating is as important to you as you claim, then why not do everything in your power to protect it? All you have to do is spend a little extra time adding photos and detailed descriptions to your auctions. A few extra minutes will prevent any more silly problems and/or negative feedback. Isn't that worth the extra time?

I understand you want to post many auctions as quickly as possible, but by not including photos or detailed descriptions, you leave yourself open to problems.

The choice is yours: list your items as quickly as possible, or do a thorough job and avoid headaches from picky bidders.



The onus is on the buyer to ask any questions they have.

Yes, you're right, but that's a bad attitude to have when you're trying to sell an item. Remember, the more comfortable you make bidders feel, the more bidders you'll have bidding on your auctions.

When I list items on eBay, I put a lot of thought into my descriptions. I usually end up with several paragraphs worth of information for each item, which might seem like overkill to you, but bidders love it and they end up trusting me.

[Anthony1]

Of course. However, if your eBay rating is as important to you as you claim, then why not add photos and detailed descriptions to your auctions from now on and prevent any more silly problems?

I understand you want to post many auctions at a time, as quickly as possible...but by not including photos and/or detailed decriptions, you leave yourself open to problems.

The choice is yours: list your items as quickly as possible, or do a thorough job and avoid headaches from picky bidders.



I've explained it a million times already. The number of auctions in which I use a stock photo, are extremely limited. Probably one out of 20. If that. Why do I do it in those cases? I've already explained that as well.

Now, in a perfect world, would I rather have a pic and detailed description on every single auction? Absolutely. But, I'm not going to stress over the rare auction in which the item is not immediately available for photo's or I have a problem with my digital camera or whatever. And you know what? I've never had a problem before with one of these stock photo auctions. I've been selling things on Ebay for 4 years, and never had a single problem with any of my extremely infrequent auctions that have stock photos and no detailed descriptions.

The only reason I'm having a problem with this one, is not because Garrett is a picky bidder, it's because he was deliberately looking for any possible reason to blemish my perfect record. The thing that people should learn from this, and the thing that I have learned from this, is to keep my personal Ebay sales completely seperate from any message boards. That was the big mistake I made. I should have never allowed anybody to make the connection between me and my Ebay auctions. Normally, with civilized people, this wouldn't be an issue, but obviously, there are some real sickos out there.

[Rob2600]

I've explained it a million times already. The number of auctions in which I use a stock photo, are extremely limited. Probably one out of 20.

I understand, but guess what? That means you're leaving yourself open to problems one out of 20 times. Don't do it! Instead of listing the item on eBay, wait a day or two until you have access to the item. That way, you'll avoid receiving negative feedback 100% of the time instead of just 99% of the time. Believe me, I know how it is to be on a roll, but taking some extra time to make sure all of your auctions are perfect is worth it in the long run.

I'm just trying to help.

[Anthony1]

Look, it's all gravy man. I'm done with DP. It was fun while it lasted, but it's time to move on. Everybody take it easy.

[boatofcar]

Look, it's all gravy man. I'm done with DP. It was fun while it lasted, but it's time to move on. Everybody take it easy.

Make sure you say hi to Queen of the Felines and every other DP member who left in a huff thinking their presence would be missed. If you're going to let one person ruin DP for you, that's a problem. There are plenty of people here who've defended your position on this.

[Dragon Warrior Jasen]

I just finished reading through this entire thread, and wow....

Anthony, your ebay selling techniques are bad at best. Your shipping policy is the most retarded thing I have ever heard and has no merit because the Post Office will come pick things up from your house for FREE, you can use thier FREE boxes/envelopes/stickers that the will DELIVER TO YOU FREE, and if you are an average person (being generous here) you get things in the mail often enough to recycle packing material. So your "driving, waiting, time, blah blah, im a tool, blah blah" speech is uncalled for and frankly enough for me to say "F-That!" when looking at your auctions.

Good ebay rules:
1. If you don't have the item in your hand, don't sell it.
2. If you can't explain everything about the item, don't sell it.
3. If you don't want to take the time to take pictures or properly explain your auctions on ebay forcing people to have to beg you for information then don't sell it.
4. If you are "that guy" that tries to scam people (your turbo-tap incident, the judge judy lady selling pictures of cell phones, etc.) then you shouldn't sell on ebay.

In general, you need to file a hurt feelings report, because you are crying like a little girl that didn't get elected prom queen.

[JerseyDevil65]

Why would someone bid on an auction where there is no photo and no description, and not ask for a photo or a description, and then complain about the condition of a game? This whole thing reeks of a set-up or just plain pettyness.

[Sniderman]

Wow. This thread reeks of douchebaggery.

1. The seller.
2. The buyer.
3. 30% of those posting to this thread.

/starts making a list of newly blocked bidders and auctions to avoid

[Flack]

/starts making a list of newly blocked bidders and auctions to avoid

That's exactly what I got after reading through this mess. Really I just feel embarassed for all parties involved, including everyone who jumped on the dogpile. How shameful. It's disgusting that DP members would treat one another this way. I guess "community" means different things to different people.

It has been well documented that Anthony1 uses stock photos in his eBay auctions. All things considered (bidding on an auction with a stock photo, not asking about condition, and then negging a fellow DP forum member without allowing the seller to rectify the situation) shows me that the real intent here was to ruin someone's perfect feedback and to "teach him a lesson."

Well, congratulations. It's so wonderful to see a bunch of forum members acting like complete dickheads to one other days before Christmas. Seasons greetings!

[skylark]

Make sure you say hi to Queen of the Felines and every other DP member who left in a huff thinking their presence would be missed. If you're going to let one person ruin DP for you, that's a problem. There are plenty of people here who've defended your position on this.

Queen of Felines left? I kinda liked her.

Anyway, I side with Anthony on this one. Not that he's always the best advocate for himself, but there is nothing in that auction that makes me think mint condition. In fact, my assumption would have been that it wasn't. Stock photos are fine in my book. If condition is a priority, act on your own behalf and confirm it. Why assume Anthony had you in mind when he created his auction? Ebay is not retail, and to expect a seller to profile his market like a professional is pretty unrealistic. It's just a big yardsale. If you want guarantees off the bat, shop at an actual business. Otherwise be prepared to deal with people who may have different values and perspectives than yours.

[jonjandran]

Anyone getting mad over a $7.95 game needs to get a life.

Anyone getting mad enough to fight someone over a negative feedback needs to get a life.

There are a lot more important things in life to worry about.

This thread makes me wonder if there really is any hope for the human race.

Pathetic. :roll:

[dlopez9069]

I just have two remarks:

1. When was the last time the op posted in this thread?

2. This entire thread is nothing but redundancy redundancy redundancy.

GET OVER IT. bad deals happen oh well it isn't the end of the world. put your big girl panties on and roll wth the punches. i guess that was three remarks but oh well.

[Oobgarm]

An argument between two people should be left that way, you guys only made it worse.

If that's the case, then this should have been locked up straight away and the two parties involved told to handle their dispute via PMs. It's obvious what the intention of the thread was to begin with.

Just sayin'.

[Richter Belmount]

Did it ever occur to you to...... Ask for a refund? if your dissatisfied?

[Phosphor Dot Fossils]

As one of the parties involved in the dispute has left the building, I'm not sure there's a point in leaving this open for discussion.

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