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Cirrus
01-14-2008, 04:24 PM
I couldn't search for the thread (which I'm sure exists) which already discusses this, as "Wii" is under the 4-character lower limit for search terms. :(

What games are going to be scarce in the future, in the opinion of DPers?

I'm thinking Zack & Wiki won't be too easy to find in about 5 years. Any others?

Dangerboy
01-14-2008, 04:26 PM
Zack and Wiki is too wide of a release for rare game - it'll be one of the "in demand games".

No...some of those budget titles will be the freaking obscure rare ones. Hell, I can't even keep track of them anymore.

PsychoCandy
01-14-2008, 04:56 PM
I'm sure that as the above poster said, more then a few budget titles will become hard to find in a few years...I'm even holding out hope that maybe one or two of them will be a surprise cult hit or at least playable.

theoakwoody
01-14-2008, 05:10 PM
What is the minimum amount of copies a company would even consider releasing? Is 25,000 considered rare, what an R6?

PDorr3
01-14-2008, 05:31 PM
Counter Force is one budget title that seems appealing to me, looks like an on rails dreamcast game. Anyone play that and think its worth $20? also I think later on Endless Ocean will become atleast uncommon.

Icarus Moonsight
01-14-2008, 05:44 PM
Off the top of my head I'd have to say Ninja Breadman is the only Wii game I've seen once and only one copy. May just be regional. Then there are the gamestop exclusive Wii titles. With all the speculators nowadays, maybe store exclusives won't pan out as well as they have in the past.

snes_collector
01-14-2008, 06:11 PM
What is the minimum amount of copies a company would even consider releasing? Is 25,000 considered rare, what an R6?

I *believe* the game companys themself set a minium for the console.

As for rare games, there is so much budget crap out there being put out so fast right now, it's insane.

Is anybody even trying for a complete collection at this point?

PsychoCandy
01-14-2008, 06:23 PM
If I had the cash, I think I'd go for a complete set...but I just really don't have money to blow on shitty 20 dollar games when theres still a few good games I want to buy to play.

tonyvortex
01-14-2008, 11:26 PM
Counter Force is one budget title that seems appealing to me, looks like an on rails dreamcast game. Anyone play that and think its worth $20? also I think later on Endless Ocean will become atleast uncommon.

it plays sort of like a bad virtual on game.

SkiDragon
01-15-2008, 12:41 AM
As mainstream as it is, I wonder if we will see anything like "send in 5 proofs of purchase for Keebler Elves Adventure: The Game", or something equally as hard to come by. I am of course reminded of all of those crazy promotional games for the Atari.

sirhansirhan
01-15-2008, 02:42 AM
I started a thread a little under a month ago about how there's reason to believe at this point that Kororinpa: Marble Mania will be a future rarity.

Graham Mitchell
01-15-2008, 09:25 AM
I started a thread a little under a month ago about how there's reason to believe at this point that Kororinpa: Marble Mania will be a future rarity.

I've already had trouble finding it, which is too bad because it's a quality title with lots of fan service to Hudson loyalists.

Rob2600
01-15-2008, 10:28 AM
Counter Force is one budget title that seems appealing to me, looks like an on rails dreamcast game. Anyone play that and think its worth $20?

Overall, Counter Force has received a 2 out of 10:

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109135



Off the top of my head I'd have to say Ninja Breadman is the only Wii game I've seen once and only one copy. May just be regional.

I've seen many copies of Ninjabread Man at the Toys R Us Express around here. In fact, that store has every garbage game that's out right now.

PsychoCandy
01-15-2008, 12:48 PM
My local Best Buy still has a bunch of Kororinpa: Marble Mania I plan to pick one up when I get my next paycheck.

Dr. Conspiracy
01-15-2008, 01:00 PM
Legend has it that Kid Ice has njiska ensconced in his basement dungeon, whom he regularly subjects to cock punches. The Doctor has only seen vague polaroids of an abnormally small Canadian penis surrounded by bruises- but deems the evidence is conclusive enough.

Unbeknownst to the public at large, Mr. Santulli has a trap door in the back room of his store which leads to his true calling: sexy mannequin collecting. He configures them to resemble various forum members in erotic poses.

evil_genius
01-15-2008, 05:49 PM
lmfao...

cock punches!

hilarious!

can i somehow subscribe to everything the doctor posts?

Snapple
01-19-2008, 05:28 AM
I believe I know a recently released Wii game that will probably be a future (or current) rarity. Ultimate Duck Hunting. Not only have I not seen it around stores anywhere, but it's not common at all on ebay either. Buy it now, and thank me later.

Kyle15
01-19-2008, 10:27 AM
Necro Nesia, AKA Escape From Bug Island, is definately already hard to find. Wal-Marts have sent their copies back, and most Gamestops do not even have it. Another is the Hajime no Ippo game, Victorious Boxers Revolution. I have never even seen one!

chrisbid
01-19-2008, 10:43 AM
i believe geometry wars galaxies will be a future rarity. people that normally want to play that game are looking for a cheaper price. the same thing happened to ikaruga on gamecube.

Rob2600
01-19-2008, 12:35 PM
Victorious Boxers Revolution. I have never even seen one!

The Best Buy I go to has plenty of copies.

Bojay1997
01-19-2008, 01:26 PM
I think for a Wii game to be rare, it can't really have any brick and mortar retailer distribution. Anytime you see a game at Best Buy, you know they have ordered a minimum of several thousand copies. I really doubt there will be any "rare" games for the Wii at this point. Maybe down the road as shelf space becomes tighter and tighter, but almost every game I know of is being picked up by most brick and mortar retailers at this point, even the games that the buyer must have known would be terrible (Anubis II, Ninjabread Man, etc...).

Mobius
01-19-2008, 03:23 PM
Rare in terms of total print run, or just valuable because of a combination of high demand and relatively low number of copies? I'm sure some of the crappy budget games will be somewhat rare, but I doubt they'll be worth much of anything because nobody will want them.

Kororinpa seems to have a nice following in that its eBay prices are slightly above retail price ($40-$50 for a sealed copy of a $40 game), but I doubt the number of copies in circulation is really that low, it's just a good game. I could see the same happening with Zack and Wiki, and maybe Mercury Meltdown Revolution.

What about Dewy's Adventure? I don't remember seeing that in any stores.


Edit: I'm tempted to get Ninjabread Man just for the great box art.

MegaDrive20XX
01-19-2008, 03:47 PM
What about Carnival?

slapdash
01-20-2008, 05:57 PM
I believe I know a recently released Wii game that will probably be a future (or current) rarity. Ultimate Duck Hunting.

Who makes that one? If Cabela, I'd be surprised if it were THAT rare, but I admit, I haven't seen that one.


What about Dewy's Adventure? I don't remember seeing that in any stores.

Just saw it at Toys R Us today.


Edit: I'm tempted to get Ninjabread Man just for the great box art.

I'm tempted to get it just for the NAME!


Necro Nesia, AKA Escape From Bug Island, is definately already hard to find.

Just got this one at Circuit City for $15, so check your local.

Snapple
01-20-2008, 08:52 PM
Who makes that one? If Cabela, I'd be surprised if it were THAT rare, but I admit, I haven't seen that one.

I'm just going by what I've seen. Not just on store shelves, of which I haven't seen any there, but also online. I was on ebay looking at games. I'd see like 50 copies of a fishing game nobody wants, 30 copies of bowling, 20-something copies of (insert random puzzle game), and there was exactly 1 auction for Ultimate Duck Hunting.

Are you sure it's by Cabela? I've seen Cabela's Big Game Hunter on ebay and elsewhere, and it's much, much more common than UDH.

I'm not saying the Duck Hunting qualifies as rare NOW, but the circulation doesn't seem to be very big. So that is my prediction for a future rarity.

slapdash
01-21-2008, 11:33 PM
No, I didn't claim that it was by Cabela, I was ASKING who made it. If Amazon is any indication, it's Disney Interactive (Detn8):

http://www.amazon.com/Disney-Interactive-Ultimate-Duck-Hunting/dp/B000QWZK7A

Bojay1997
01-21-2008, 11:38 PM
What about Carnival?

No, it got a reprint and is now widely available again at most brick and mortar retailers.

Rob2600
01-21-2008, 11:42 PM
No, I didn't claim that it was by Cabela, I was ASKING who made it. If Amazon is any indication, it's Disney Interactive (Detn8)

That's weird. It appears Disney Interactive and Detn8 Games aren't related at all. More info:

Ultimate Duck Hunting (Wii)
published by: Detn8 Games
developed by: Mid Carolina Media

"Detn8 Games Ltd. is a division of Mandarin Entertainment Corp., which was incorporated in Glenview, Illinois, in 2006. Started by industry veterans Ellen Fuog and Jeff Hill, the company publishes video games for console and handheld hardware. Detn8 Games has all-platform licensee status with Nintendo and SCEA. Detn8’s two principals have a combined 51 years in the video game industry.

Ms. Fuog has a total of 28 years experience in the video game industry. Most recently, she founded and served as president of UK-based Ignition Entertainment’s US operation from its inception in 2002 until 2006. Prior to Ignition, Ms. Fuog was president (and founder) of AIA USA, vice president of sales and marketing for Jaleco USA, and vice president of sales and marketing for Kaneko Entertainment – all video game publishers. Before that, she was vice president of sales and marketing for WICO, a joystick and peripheral manufacturer. In the 1980’s, Ms. Fuog ran her own sales rep company, Ellen Fuog Associates.

Mr. Hill, who started in the video game business in 1984 as a tester for Mindscape, has operated his own company, Black Sheep, Inc., since 1994. Black Sheep is involved in software testing, consulting, and customer support. Before starting his own company, Mr. Hill served as product development director for Kaneko Entertainment and Jaleco USA. Mr. Hill has a total of 23 years experience in the video game industry."

web site: www.detn8games.com
general email: detn8info@detn8games.com
Jeff Hill's email: jeff@detn8games.com


Other games published by Detn8 Games:
Elf Bowling: Collector's Edition (Wii) (release date: TBA 2008)


Other games developed by Mid Carolina Media:
Ultimate Duck Hunting (PC)

slapdash
01-22-2008, 12:21 AM
Interesting... Sounds like a rarity just based on "Detn8". Hmm, they're local though...

EDIT: Hmm, now that I think of it, I don't think I've see the Wii version of Elf Bowling!

Rob2600
01-22-2008, 12:46 AM
I don't think I've seen the Wii version of Elf Bowling!

That's because it hasn't been released yet. Sorry, I should've clarified in my previous post.

Snapple
01-22-2008, 11:27 AM
They're making ANOTHER Elf Bowling game? Good lord, make it stop.

Oh, and apparently Ultimate Duck Hunting isn't too good, because the guy who reviewed it at GameTrailers "killed himself" upon playing it:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/11580.html

DJ Daishi
01-22-2008, 03:34 PM
metal slug collection?

Rob2600
01-23-2008, 11:07 PM
I'm thinking Zack & Wiki won't be too easy to find in about 5 years.

The price is now $29.99. I just bought a copy today. Now's your chance:

Best Buy:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8560826&st=zack+wiki&lp=1&type=product&cp=1&id=1188561459815

Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Zack-Wiki-Quest-Barbaros%252019-Treasure/dp/B000P297ES/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1201146618&sr=8-1

The price must've just been lowered today because yesterday it was $39.99 on both web sites.

digitalpress
01-24-2008, 11:00 PM
Legend has it that Kid Ice has njiska ensconced in his basement dungeon, whom he regularly subjects to cock punches. The Doctor has only seen vague polaroids of an abnormally small Canadian penis surrounded by bruises- but deems the evidence is conclusive enough.

Unbeknownst to the public at large, Mr. Santulli has a trap door in the back room of his store which leads to his true calling: sexy mannequin collecting. He configures them to resemble various forum members in erotic poses.

Such potential... such a great idea. If only this poster was a little bit funny. I mean c'mon, you have a world of material at your fingertips.

"Sexy mannequin collecting?" Bleh. If you knew about my collection of human teenage slaves you'd see just how watered-down your posts seem to the rest of us, especially on the INSIDE where you should have better information about.

koster
01-29-2008, 02:02 PM
Kororinpa seems to have a nice following in that its eBay prices are slightly above retail price ($40-$50 for a sealed copy of a $40 game), but I doubt the number of copies in circulation is really that low, it's just a good game. I could see the same happening with Zack and Wiki, and maybe Mercury Meltdown Revolution.
Konami.com currently has Kororinpa (and Elebits) on sale for $19.99 each; shipping is steep ($8.99), but price-wise it's still better than Ebay...

Rob2600
01-29-2008, 02:31 PM
Dewy's Adventure is now $20 at Amazon.com and Best Buy, too. Elebits is $22 on Amazon.com. Super Monkey Ball: Banana Blitz is $30 everywhere.

Snapple
01-29-2008, 02:43 PM
Zack and Wiki, Dewy's Adventure, and Elebits are as common as dirt right now. I think they'll only go further down in price from here, if you really want those games, if not at the stores then at least on ebay. I've gotten a couple of Wii games on the Bay for about ten bucks each, so there's always room for the price to drop.

hellfire
02-14-2009, 04:35 PM
about 2 weeks before the wii was released I saw demo copys of marvel ultimate alliance for sale at target, I really wish I would have bought one

Kid Ice
02-14-2009, 04:51 PM
Such potential... such a great idea. If only this poster was a little bit funny. I mean c'mon, you have a world of material at your fingertips.

Oh wait...it's 2009 now?

Aw, never mind.

LiiZENZ
02-15-2009, 02:33 AM
I think that Wii demo discs are rare :P
Like the Zelda Twilight Princess demo or the Boom Blox demo.

mr obscure
02-15-2009, 05:17 AM
Rare in the future? hmm

I would say : manhunt 2! Its impossible/hard to get in some european country's because its banned .
It was banned in England and some other European country's.
No problem here in Holland its in the shops from the beginning(every thing goes here)

Rumor has it a Dutch developer(gorilla) is making a real hardcore 18+ wii game.
Its a pimp game featuring :beating up hockers with the wii remote and jurking off wii remote action.
Modern panesian???

josekortez
02-15-2009, 05:59 AM
Manhunt 2 is definitely not rare in the U.S. Maybe I need to set up an operation importing copies of NTSC copies of Manhunt 2 into Europe.

I'm wondering if Ultimate Shooting Collection will be rare.

calistarwind
02-15-2009, 11:35 AM
I would have to say Opoona is pretty hard to find in most circles now.

Pezcore343
02-15-2009, 12:55 PM
Are you sure it's by Cabela? I've seen Cabela's Big Game Hunter on ebay and elsewhere, and it's much, much more common than UDH.


The publisher of Ultimate Duck Hunting is Detn8 Games.

Bojay1997
02-15-2009, 03:06 PM
I would have to say Opoona is pretty hard to find in most circles now.

It's $20 brand new on Gamestop.com and in-store. It's also still available at most Best Buy locations. Not rare unfortunately.

RJ
02-16-2009, 04:47 AM
I havent seen Mini Copter Adventure Flight in more than a couple places, used for $25.

Gameguy
02-16-2009, 05:33 AM
What about Spy Fox in "Dry Cereal"? I don't think I've seen it in stores, only on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Spy-Fox-Dry-Cereal-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B0018YDKAO

It's a port of a kids adventure game that originally came out in '97. I don't see this being a big seller(though the game was good when I tried it out on the PC back in '97).

Bojay1997
02-16-2009, 10:58 AM
What about Spy Fox in "Dry Cereal"? I don't think I've seen it in stores, only on Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Spy-Fox-Dry-Cereal-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B0018YDKAO

It's a port of a kids adventure game that originally came out in '97. I don't see this being a big seller(though the game was good when I tried it out on the PC back in '97).

It's available down here at Best Buy in most stores.

11killer11
02-16-2009, 11:19 AM
Here are my guesses:

Spy Fox in Dry Cereal
Pajama Sam in Don't be Afraid of the Dark (or something like that)
Freddie Fish

They were all released at $29.99, by the same company. I have Spy Fox myself and all in all it's just a direct port with a poorly designed title screen.

I don't think many of you have heard of this one: Defendin De Penguin

I was looking on Amazon yesterday and saw this. It's supposedly a strategy game to reel in young ones where you throw snowballs at animals trying to get into the penguin colony.

Metal Slug Anthology, Opoona, King all of Clubs and Ten Pin Alley 2

roushimsx
02-16-2009, 11:35 AM
What the shit? They're releasing Humongous games on the Wii? So fucking boughten. They've churned out some of the best kids' games (especially adventure games) in the last decade+. Gotta show some $$ love.

Bojay1997
02-16-2009, 01:51 PM
Here are my guesses:

Spy Fox in Dry Cereal
Pajama Sam in Don't be Afraid of the Dark (or something like that)
Freddie Fish

They were all released at $29.99, by the same company. I have Spy Fox myself and all in all it's just a direct port with a poorly designed title screen.

I don't think many of you have heard of this one: Defendin De Penguin

I was looking on Amazon yesterday and saw this. It's supposedly a strategy game to reel in young ones where you throw snowballs at animals trying to get into the penguin colony.

Metal Slug Anthology, Opoona, King all of Clubs and Ten Pin Alley 2

Everything on this list is available at pretty much every Best Buy location in the United States. I believe Walmart b&m locations also have most of them in stock still. Metal Slug Anthology is becoming a little harder to find, but still pretty available. I don't think games released and available at the two largest b&m electronics resellers in the United States for the most popular console in this generation by a wide margin are going to become rare.

CDiablo
02-16-2009, 01:56 PM
I'm wondering if Ultimate Shooting Collection will be rare.

I think it may not be due to the fact that Castle of Shikigami Wii is extremely common.

Bojay1997
02-16-2009, 03:58 PM
I think it may not be due to the fact that Castle of Shikigami Wii is extremely common.

I would concede that this game has very limited brick and mortar distribution with none of the major chains carrying it. Having said that, like Castle of Shikigami, once the price drops to $20 at retail, I suspect you will see stores like Best Buy carrying it possibly as part of their holiday 2009 selection.

TonyTheTiger
02-16-2009, 04:19 PM
What's the smallest print run that any publisher would bother with? Even these super budget titles like Octomania (which launched at a whopping $10) has to have a decent number of copies out there. And most of these titles that would have print runs on the lower end are either uninteresting or shit so you know nobody is going to be after them hence there probably won't be many "money" games in this category.

Bojay1997
02-16-2009, 08:39 PM
What's the smallest print run that any publisher would bother with? Even these super budget titles like Octomania (which launched at a whopping $10) has to have a decent number of copies out there. And most of these titles that would have print runs on the lower end are either uninteresting or shit so you know nobody is going to be after them hence there probably won't be many "money" games in this category.

I agree strongly. Although Octomania actually launched at $20 and dropped to half of that a month or two later. I suspect that there will be very few if any "rare" games in this generation simply because retailers in this economy are looking to avoid risks, so distributors are carrying less risky product which means in turn that publishers are canning projects long before they even get too far into development. According to one distributor I spoke to recently, even the crap Wii titles have minimum print runs of 25,000 or more units not because Nintendo is demanding it, but because selling crap titles requires getting them into lots of retailers in the hopes that they will sell at least half the print run at full price and then they just keep crediting retailers until the price drops to a level where the other half sells. I also like your use of the word "money" to describe what people are hoping for in this thread since as the last few generations have shown, rarity seems to have little to do with resale value as it seems like really good games that might not have had the full distribution that other titles in the same generation had or really common, but great games are what maintain value. There are of course exceptions, but the fact that a black label copy of FFVII sells for the same or more than a copy of the original release of Dragonball Z for the Playstation is good evidence that just being numerically "rare" is no indication that something is worth picking up.

TonyTheTiger
02-17-2009, 12:15 AM
To be fair, the only reason Dragonball GT: Final Bout plummeted in price is because Atari rereleased the game when the PSX was on it's death bed. People finally had the opportunity to play the game and when they realized how abysmal it was lost interest immediately.

But your point is valid. Just look at the Gamecube. The games that seem to retain their value are the "big" first party titles and a few other popular ones. Clearly nobody is having trouble finding Super Smash Bros. Melee but it still fetches a decent price.

I firmly believe the days when the late gen RPG or quirky Japanese game are the "rare + money" games are over. Maybe a handful will sneak in since the PS2 has been steadily seeing oddball releases that may or may not be both decent and in short supply but, for the most part, we aren't going to see another Panzer Dragoon Saga. Print runs are too big and quality games get too much attention these days. These days it seems that rare games will be made by accident like what happened with NCAA College Basketball 2k3 on the GCN. So while everybody will be looking at the newest Atlus release as a potential rarity they might be looking in the wrong direction.

What I can see happening on the Wii is a situation where a genuinely good game gets lost in the sea of shovelware and is only rediscovered by the masses much later on when copies are harder to come by. Something similar happened to Eternal Darkness on the GCN. At one point it was selling brand new for $12 before people figured out how awesome it was. A situation like this won't make a game rare but it will increase its value. I think Blast Works is a possible contender for that. I would have skipped it if I weren't tipped off by a friend. At first glance it looks no different than the rest of the generic software it sits next to on the shelf.

Iron Draggon
02-17-2009, 01:19 PM
Off the top of my head I'd have to say Ninja Breadman is the only Wii game I've seen once and only one copy. May just be regional. Then there are the gamestop exclusive Wii titles. With all the speculators nowadays, maybe store exclusives won't pan out as well as they have in the past.

Gamestop exclusives for the Wii? which ones are those? nothing I want, I hope... I vowed never to buy another game from their sorry asses again!


i believe geometry wars galaxies will be a future rarity. people that normally want to play that game are looking for a cheaper price. the same thing happened to ikaruga on gamecube.

I have to agree on this one... it's only been out for a year now, and I've not seen a new copy of it for sale in any stores yet... so it can't be very common

Rob2600
02-17-2009, 01:32 PM
(Geometry Wars) I have to agree on this one... it's only been out for a year now, and I've not seen a new copy of it for sale in any stores yet... so it can't be very common

Amazon has new copies for $20:

Amazon - Geometry Wars: Galaxies (Wii, $20 new) (http://www.amazon.com/Geometry-Wars-Galaxies-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B000RWV17M/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1234895468&sr=8-1)

Icarus Moonsight
02-17-2009, 03:24 PM
@ Iron Dragon: As far as I've seen they were all crap. No worries. Exclusive shovelware WTF!? Apparently so. LOL

Those "Gamestop exclusive!" Wii displays I saw then have since come down though.

Bojay1997
02-17-2009, 05:04 PM
@ Iron Dragon: As far as I've seen they were all crap. No worries. Exclusive shovelware WTF!? Apparently so. LOL

Those "Gamestop exclusive!" Wii displays I saw then have since come down though.

As far as I know, those games are no longer Gamestop exclusives. I know I have seen all of them at the local indy game shops I buy from and they are on the distributor sales lists for the wholesalers that stock a lot of the stores here in Southern California.

Deadman
02-17-2009, 09:31 PM
Today I some driving game for the Wii that was like "Chrysler Racing" or something with Chrysler in the title. It looked like the terrible Volvo: Drive for Life back on the Xbox - maybe something you get with a test drive or something? The dork in gamestop said that it was a store exclusive for another store - and he guessed Target which I'm pretty sure is incorrect since I'm in Target 5 times a week.

Anyone know anything about this one?

Bojay1997
02-17-2009, 10:20 PM
Today I some driving game for the Wii that was like "Chrysler Racing" or something with Chrysler in the title. It looked like the terrible Volvo: Drive for Life back on the Xbox - maybe something you get with a test drive or something? The dork in gamestop said that it was a store exclusive for another store - and he guessed Target which I'm pretty sure is incorrect since I'm in Target 5 times a week.

Anyone know anything about this one?

It's pretty widely available via internet retailers. Even Toys R Us and Walmart are stocking in on-line. I have only seen it in person at indy game retailers like Gamedude here in Los Angeles. It got horrible reviews by the way and it's published by Zoo which also published Order Up.

Iron Draggon
02-17-2009, 10:35 PM
Amazon has new copies for $20:

Amazon - Geometry Wars: Galaxies (Wii, $20 new) (http://www.amazon.com/Geometry-Wars-Galaxies-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B000RWV17M/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1234895468&sr=8-1)

I know, but try to find a new copy of it in a brick & mortar store... good luck!

I bet Legend of the Monkey King will be the same way... it just screams obscurity... even more so than Geometry Wars... I thought I'd see it alot

this kinda makes me wonder if Ocean Commander will be hard to find when it comes out too... the PC version is apparently digital download only, but since it is downloadable on PC, I wonder how many disc copies will sell for the Wii?

I just hope they give us alot more Wii SHMUPS to collect on discs... between those and all the ones you can download for it, the Wii is the new SHMUP lover's dream system, from what I've seen... and I do love my SHMUPS!

Bojay1997
02-17-2009, 10:55 PM
I know, but try to find a new copy of it in a brick & mortar store... good luck!

I bet Legend of the Monkey King will be the same way... it just screams obscurity... even more so than Geometry Wars... I thought I'd see it alot

this kinda makes me wonder if Ocean Commander will be hard to find when it comes out too... the PC version is apparently digital download only, but since it is downloadable on PC, I wonder how many disc copies will sell for the Wii?

I just hope they give us alot more Wii SHMUPS to collect on discs... between those and all the ones you can download for it, the Wii is the new SHMUP lover's dream system, from what I've seen... and I do love my SHMUPS!

Ocean Commander (and Off-Shore Tycoon) has been out since early December, although I have only seen it at Best Buy and some indy game shops, as well as on-line. I really have no idea why Amazon and a few other retailers aren't getting it until the end of March. I would say the 360 is the SHMUP system of choice since Raiden Fighters is coming out here, a number of hardcore Japanese SHMUPS are either out or on the way to being released on the 360 and several top Dreamcast shmups have been released exclusively on Xbox Live in the US. Most of the shmups coming out for the Wii are bad clones or badly dated games available on other consoles in better versions with the exception of the recently released Ultimate Shooting Collection.

Garry Silljo
02-18-2009, 04:36 PM
I know, but try to find a new copy of it in a brick & mortar store... good luck!

I bet Legend of the Monkey King will be the same way... it just screams obscurity... even more so than Geometry Wars... I thought I'd see it alot


If you just have to have a new one, I'll get you one and ship it to you for exact cost. There was a bunch at the Toys R Us near me just last saturday. I also can't walk without tripping over Legend of the Monkey King. It's everywhere here.

Rob2600
02-18-2009, 04:54 PM
Amazon has new copies for $20:

Amazon - Geometry Wars: Galaxies (Wii, $20 new) (http://www.amazon.com/Geometry-Wars-Galaxies-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B000RWV17M/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1234895468&sr=8-1)


I know, but try to find a new copy of it in a brick & mortar store... good luck!

What difference does it make whether you buy it online or in a brick-and-mortar store? Just order it from Amazon.

PapaStu
02-18-2009, 05:02 PM
What difference does it make whether you buy it online or in a brick-and-mortar store? Just order it from Amazon.

Rob took the words right out of my mouth.

The Gamestop exclusive titles were Super Fruitfall and Impossible Mission. They also did those exclusives for the DS.

alxbly
02-18-2009, 05:10 PM
Rare in the future? hmm

I would say : manhunt 2! Its impossible/hard to get in some european country's because its banned .
It was banned in England and some other European country's.
No problem here in Holland its in the shops from the beginning(every thing goes here)

Manhunt 2 was has been out in the UK for about four or five months months and isn't rare at all. What countries actually banned it?

Bewbs
02-18-2009, 05:36 PM
Doesn't look like The Sky Crawlers will get a release outside of Japan which cold have a bearing on its future value. Btw, has anyone played this yet? I've watched a couple of vids on youtube and it looks quite interesting, although it's impossible to gauge by watching a few short clips.

Bojay1997
02-18-2009, 06:58 PM
Rob took the words right out of my mouth.

The Gamestop exclusive titles were Super Fruitfall and Impossible Mission. They also did those exclusives for the DS.

Incorrect. They only had the exclusives for the DS. Super Fruitfall and Impossible Mission for the Wii were available at launch at Best Buy in the "front row" games section, as well as from indy retailers. They later got liquidated as part of the holiday two game bundle packs at Costco in late 2008. The Gamestop exclusives for the Wii were a bunch of low end racing games that are now more widely available. I'm pretty sure they were all from Bold Games and I know one of them was Rig Racer. I have the old ad here somewhere, I'll have to look for it.

darkslime
02-18-2009, 07:10 PM
Ultamite Duck Hunting goes for a good amount on ebay. Not really rare, per se, but worth money.

PapaStu
02-18-2009, 07:12 PM
Incorrect. They only had the exclusives for the DS. Super Fruitfall and Impossible Mission for the Wii were available at launch at Best Buy in the "front row" games section, as well as from indy retailers. They later got liquidated as part of the holiday two game bundle packs at Costco in late 2008. The Gamestop exclusives for the Wii were a bunch of low end racing games that are now more widely available. I'm pretty sure they were all from Bold Games and I know one of them was Rig Racer. I have the old ad here somewhere, I'll have to look for it.

Oh good to know. Too bad none of the GS exclusives are even worth owning.

Sonicwolf
02-18-2009, 09:01 PM
When one considers the size of the video game industry in the present day, the age of rare and limited game releases is most likely coming to a close. The fact that there is so much shovelware garbage released for the Wii may add some rare titles that few bought over time but what is rarity without some quality to it? You think anyone is going to pay top dollar for Luxor II in the future? Doubtful. Thats my 5 cents worth.

whoisKeel
02-19-2009, 10:35 PM
I too had a hell of a time finding Geometry Wars in a store (and I tried). Not saying it is very rare, but I see the demand for this one steadily increasing over the years. It's such an awesome game.

Bojay1997
02-19-2009, 11:16 PM
I too had a hell of a time finding Geometry Wars in a store (and I tried). Not saying it is very rare, but I see the demand for this one steadily increasing over the years. It's such an awesome game.

Well, that's partly because both Circuit City and Toys R Us clearanced their copies well before last Christmas. I think the game could be had for $16.96 at CC and as low as $9.98 at TRU at one point. It's still pretty available through Internet retailers, so I think we don't really need to worry about rarity right now. Also, the fact that it is available, albeit in a different form, on other consoles makes it even less likely to be a sleeper rarity IMHO.