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mailman187666
01-22-2008, 11:15 AM
Does anybody know if the PS2 is done with the whole RPG genre? is there anymore Atlus games or anything comming out for it or was Growlancer thier last one? I want more console Atlus titles. Thier handheld games are good too but I'd rather see home console games released.

boatofcar
01-22-2008, 11:24 AM
Atlus is releasing Baroque.

http://www.atlus.com/baroque/

norkusa
01-22-2008, 12:08 PM
NIS is releasing Mana Khemia in March. Will be in a ultra limited "Scholarship" box set with only 1,000 copies made:

http://www.rosenqueen.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=219&HS=1

The word on CAG is that there's around 4,000 sets left.

carlcarlson
01-22-2008, 12:23 PM
wait, 4000 sets left, only 1000 made... huh?

Oobgarm
01-22-2008, 12:31 PM
400 sets left.

Site says 1,000 total produced, so the only number that would make sense there is 400.

norkusa
01-22-2008, 12:40 PM
400 sets left.

Site says 1,000 total produced, so the only number that would make sense there is 400.

Ugh, right. Don't know what I was thinking there.

lendelin
01-22-2008, 12:59 PM
I posted about Mana Khemia in a thread with some clarifications about the sets last night:

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73673&page=6

I only know about Baroque and Mana Khemia, scheduled for mid-February and mid-March respectively. So far these games seem to be the only RPGs for the PS2 scheduled. (I hope it will come to an end at some point, I'm missing only two games for a complete RPG collection)

The unique thing about Mana is that there will be two distinct deluxe sets, one of them an exclusive with a figure from the online retailer Rosenqueen. It mightbe that this one will be hard to get in around a year for a reasonable price.

That's why I did something I only did once in the last five years: I pre-ordered a game. (Lowers his head in shame)

Oobgarm
01-22-2008, 01:07 PM
That's why I did something I only did once in the last five years: I pre-ordered a game. (Lowers his head in shame)

/me points, laughs heartily

LOL LOL LOL LOL

mailman187666
01-22-2008, 01:52 PM
well with a print run of only 1000 of course I just pre-ordered one. Thats the kinda thing R8s are made of everybody. I bet this will become one of the hardest to find PS2 games. Thanks for pointing that game out to me, I bet this game will be hard to get at a reasonable price as well.

heybtbm
01-22-2008, 01:59 PM
well with a print run of only 1000 of course I just pre-ordered one. Thats the kinda thing R8s are made of everybody. I bet this will become one of the hardest to find PS2 games. Thanks for pointing that game out to me, I bet this game will be hard to get at a reasonable price as well.

After reading the posts above, I knew this would happen. You've misunderstood. Mana Khemia is not limited to 1000. Just the version with the figure (and other items) is limited. The other version is "limited" in name only. It will be produced in the tens of thousands like any other "limited" JRPG from Nippon Ichi.

Aussie2B
01-22-2008, 02:03 PM
Yeah, unless you're dead set on getting that figure, which looks well-made but is still basically a generic anime girl, I think you'll be fine saving the 10 bucks and getting the "normal deluxe" set. :P In terms of the game alone, I don't think anyone needs to panic thinking they need to preorder this very second.

No one has mentioned Chaos Wars? Maybe because there's a good chance that it ultimately won't come out, but if stuff like Chulip can make it, anything can. It's a strategy RPG a la Namco x Capcom, in that it's a crossover filled with characters pulled from tons of different games by different developers. It's developed by Idea Factory, with involvement with Atlus, Aruze, and Red Entertainment, and it has characters pulled from Shadow Hearts, GunGrave, Growlanser, and many more titles.

mailman187666
01-22-2008, 02:20 PM
Yeah, unless you're dead set on getting that figure, which looks well-made but is still basically a generic anime girl, I think you'll be fine saving the 10 bucks and getting the "normal deluxe" set. :P In terms of the game alone, I don't think anyone needs to panic thinking they need to preorder this very second.

No one has mentioned Chaos Wars? Maybe because there's a good chance that it ultimately won't come out, but if stuff like Chulip can make it, anything can. It's a strategy RPG a la Namco x Capcom, in that it's a crossover filled with characters pulled from tons of different games by different developers. It's developed by Idea Factory, with involvement with Atlus, Aruze, and Red Entertainment, and it has characters pulled from Shadow Hearts, GunGrave, Growlanser, and many more titles.

right I see that it isn't the game won't be limited by itself but isn't this box set an official PS2 release or is it just something that the people at Rosenqueen put together themselves? I'd say if its an official PS2 release and not just an aftermarket bundle, it could be one of those hard to find editions later down the road (such as Metal Gear Solid 3 Subsistence LE). Maybe not as in demand as a title like that but with all the pieces together in the box could be worth it for PS2/RPG collectors.

lendelin
01-22-2008, 02:31 PM
After reading the posts above, I knew this would happen. You've misunderstood. Mana Khemia is not limited to 1000. Just the version with the figure (and other items) is limited. The other version is "limited" in name only. It will be produced in the tens of thousands like any other "limited" JRPG from Nippon Ichi.

That's right. The game will be released in a box like so many recent RPGs for the PS2 (Persona 3, Wild Arms 5, Ar tonelico) with some extra content (a mini-poster and a soundtrack CD). Retail price is $39.99. This one won't be hard to get at all, and patience to get it will pay off financially. (exceptions apply, like Persona 3)

If patience is good advice in case of the exclusive Rosenqueen release is doubtful. Might be, might not be. The limited print run (1000, at least so it says) plus the experience with the exclusive dot hack GU Volume 1 box with figurine from Gamestop suggests that the price will go up after the release. It might be that ebay sellers get a lot of this edition, and the price won't increase. But I doubt it.

The Rosenqueen release is only worthwhile if you want a complete RPG collection with all variations, and/or if you love little figurines in nice looking boxes. (and admittedly the box looks playfully 'charming,' or is that an insult to masculine RPGamers?)

Too bad that the Rosenqueen release doesn't contain the regular outer box, would have saved us some money. Well, life is unfair to RPG fanatics.

lendelin
01-22-2008, 02:40 PM
... but isn't this box set an official PS2 release or is it just something that the people at Rosenqueen put together themselves? I'd say if its an official PS2 release and not just an aftermarket bundle,...

It is as much an 'official' PS2 release as other deluxe sets limited to and distributed by one retailer. It is not just a bundle like so many pre-order offers consisting of bonus items separate from the actual game. What makes it an own version is that it comes in its own box with additional content (the figurine), whereas the soundtrack CD and mini-poster in the two versions are identitical, same goes of course for the actual game in the plastic case. The regular deluxe cardboard box other retailers will offer is different from this one.

heybtbm
01-22-2008, 02:48 PM
I almost forgot...in the "rumor" section of the latest issue of EGM they say the FES special edition of Persona 3 is getting a US release in 2008. Take it for what it's worth.

Snapple
01-22-2008, 08:01 PM
This isn't related to the Mana series of games, is it? I have a PS2, and I love it, but I don't really "collect" for the PS2. So I'm going to resist getting this "deluxe edition" simply because it's not common, unless it's a real Mana game.

Wolfrider31
01-22-2008, 08:33 PM
This isn't related to the Mana series of games, is it? I have a PS2, and I love it, but I don't really "collect" for the PS2. So I'm going to resist getting this "deluxe edition" simply because it's not common, unless it's a real Mana game.

No it's part of the Atelier Iris series.

Snapple
01-22-2008, 10:57 PM
Well that is highly misleading then. SE should put a trademark on that sheezy. I'll be passing on this one.

LiquidPolicenaut
01-23-2008, 12:09 AM
Damn, I forgot about Baroque and didnt even know about Mana Khemia, but thanks to this thread, I now have some more PS2 RPGs to look forward to! (Hopefully Persona: FES is also a reality).....

Off hand, any listed differences yet between the PS2 and Wii versions? I'm still gonna lean towards the PS2 version, but just wanna know.....

Wolfrider31
01-23-2008, 07:35 AM
Well that is highly misleading then. SE should put a trademark on that sheezy. I'll be passing on this one.

LoL. I don't think the word mana can be copyrighted. :D

sisko
01-23-2008, 08:50 AM
NIS is releasing Mana Khemia in March. Will be in a ultra limited "Scholarship" box set with only 1,000 copies made:

http://www.rosenqueen.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=219&HS=1

The word on CAG is that there's around 4,000 sets left.

399 now. Thanks for the tip...I had no idea this was even coming out.

boatofcar
01-23-2008, 09:40 AM
LoL. I don't think the word mana can be copyrighted. :D

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Wizards of the Coast trademarked "mana" for MtG. I know they trademarked "tap."

Daria
01-23-2008, 12:14 PM
399 now. Thanks for the tip...I had no idea this was even coming out.

398 XD

Edit: Actually I can add 218 copies of the game to my shopping cart... but 219 is too many. SO yeah... they have 218 copies left.

mailman187666
01-23-2008, 12:43 PM
398 XD

Edit: Actually I can add 218 copies of the game to my shopping cart... but 219 is too many. SO yeah... they have 218 copies left.

looks like this thread alone is helping them make a little money on pre-orders huh?

Bojay1997
01-23-2008, 01:38 PM
It is as much an 'official' PS2 release as other deluxe sets limited to and distributed by one retailer. It is not just a bundle like so many pre-order offers consisting of bonus items separate from the actual game. What makes it an own version is that it comes in its own box with additional content (the figurine), whereas the soundtrack CD and mini-poster in the two versions are identitical, same goes of course for the actual game in the plastic case. The regular deluxe cardboard box other retailers will offer is different from this one.

I don't think this is correct. In e-mail I exchanged with the customer service person at Rosenqueen, they said that basically we will all be getting the same boxed "limited edition" version of the game which will be packaged and sealed just like Persona 3 or Ar Tonelico. You get that version whether you preorder it or just buy it at whatever retailers end up carrying it. If you preorder this special edition, you get the figure in a separate box. The separate box can be used to house the DVD case with the game as well as the figure, but it won't ship that way. The special box is not large enough to house the outer cardboard box containing the game, soundtrack and other items. So, this is a neat item, but really you're just paying extra for the figure and a box.

Aussie2B
01-23-2008, 01:57 PM
Yep, guilty. :P Even though the figure doesn't do much for me, I can't resist the collector in me. I know sooner or later in my life I'll want to collect as many PS2 RPGs as I can, and I may as well get the super ultimate deluxe set now than possibly pay top dollar to get it or the normal set later on. Also, I'm wary about very late releases because they tend to have conservative print runs and not get noticed, so in many cases it really is best to pay the MSRP than wait for a game to really catch on. It may not be an RPG, but I did sort of get burned with Castlevania Chronicles for PS1. I passed only buying it at the $15 MSRP when it was staring me right in the face, and then later when it disappeared and everybody wanted it, I had to wait and get lucky to nab a mint used copy for about 20 or 25 bucks. I later found a second copy for around the same price and broke even when I sold it, but I still learned a lesson.

lendelin
01-23-2008, 01:59 PM
I don't think this is correct. In e-mail I exchanged with the customer service person at Rosenqueen, they said that basically we will all be getting the same boxed "limited edition" version of the game which will be packaged and sealed just like Persona 3 or Ar Tonelico. You get that version whether you preorder it or just buy it at whatever retailers end up carrying it. If you preorder this special edition, you get the figure in a separate box. The separate box can be used to house the DVD case with the game as well as the figure, but it won't ship that way. The special box is not large enough to house the outer cardboard box containing the game, soundtrack and other items. So, this is a neat item, but really you're just paying extra for the figure and a box.

Thanks for the information and correction! If this is the case, that is great news becasue we don't have to buy the regular retailer version additionally, and it would explain the confusing statement on their website. ("Also, due to the size of the outer box, it will not fit in the Limited Edition Collector's Box that comes with the Scholarship Box Set.")

Let's hope customer service is right. :) Thanks again for the information, this is the most detailed info I heard so far about the content of this edition.

mailman187666
01-24-2008, 02:16 PM
well I went back to the Rosenqueen website and they are officially out of stock for the Mana Khemia scholorship package. Just thought I'd inform everybody about that.