Final Fantasy III (SNES) vs. Final Fantasy VI Advance (GBA)?

[erehwon]

I was wondering which of these was better? I heard the GBA version has some extra content. Is that extra content really worth getting that version over the original? I do have a gba player for my gamecube, so either way, I'm playing it on the TV.

[Habeeb Hamusta]

then you should probably go with the gba version. I mean if you're not looking for it to collect but just to play...there would be no reason to get it for SNES.
A. The snes version is more expensive
B. The gba version according to you has extra content
c. Either way you're playing it on tv
D. The gba version is newer so is much less of a chnace then the save file going to crap

So yeah go with the gba version

[MeTmKnice]

Liek said above.. if you are not getting it for collection purposes at all, ge tthe GBA version. I myself have FFIII for SNES, as I collect games.

[Blitzwing256]

the gba one is almost perfect compared to the snes one, my only complaints were a differnt (in some ways better) translation that changed some of the items spells and monshters to be closer to the japanese, so if you like cyan's weapons having bizaare japanese names then its not a big deal, the extra content is nice (the 3 party dungeon is a BITCH to find your way around) but it was way worth playing through a great game again.

the only way i'd say go for the snes one is theres a very very very nice hack someone made that added a new game+ option to the game that adds an INCREDIBLE amount of replay value as they did a very good job at implementing the feature.

[staxx]

The SNES has better audio than the GBA version. Though the GBA does have the Dragon's Den (extra dungeon and more Espers).

[Soviet Conscript]

then you should probably go with the gba version. I mean if you're not looking for it to collect but just to play...there would be no reason to get it for SNES.
A. The snes version is more expensive
B. The gba version according to you has extra content
c. Either way you're playing it on tv
D. The gba version is newer so is much less of a chnace then the save file going to crap

So yeah go with the gba version

yhep, if your just playing and not collecting i agree, go for the GBA. though there are was around point D if you are dead set playing the origional and are paranoid about save file getting erased....but it will cost so its really not worth it

can anyone confirm if the GBA version is easier though? personnaly i can't stand when they do this since i love a challenge. I was so dissapointed with how easy FF was when they remade it on the PS1.

[erehwon]

I'm both a collector and a player, I'm just a little behind on the second one . I wouldn't mind having the snes one, but I'll likely end up with the gba one.

The last few times I've been to McVans, I've noticed that they had priced FFIII for around $30. I can get either version for about the same price. I'm still watching for the GBA version to drop in price some. FF IV and FF V both dropped in price at a few places like Circuit City. Sadly, FF VI is still full price everywhere I've gone.

[Blitzwing256]

the dificulty level is equal to the japanese version, so its slighly harder then the us version, in fact the vanish/doom gltich as well as the magic defence glitch AND the sketch glitches have been fixed.


I forgot about the music on the gba one, its the same music just a little toned down unfortnatly (snes had a better sound chip)

[c0ldb33r]

the only way i'd say go for the snes one is theres a very very very nice hack someone made that added a new game+ option to the game that adds an INCREDIBLE amount of replay value as they did a very good job at implementing the feature.
If you've got a SNES cart version, how would you use the new game+? You'd have to use a rom am I right?

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There are a few edited scenes in the GBA version (i.e. Celess getting slapped), but it's not anything big if you've never played the game before, but it's somewhat bothersome if you have.

[Blitzwing256]

If you've got a SNES cart version, how would you use the new game+? You'd have to use a rom am I right?


if you have certain snes copiers you can apply the patch while playing, or alternatively you could mod the cart if you have the technology.

or yeah, just play the rom after buying the actual cart.

[fahlim003]

I'd like to hear more about this New Game + FF3/6 for Super Nintendo.

On topic, I think regarding which one is the better choice, if you haven't played the Super Nintendo game, then getting the cheaper Game Boy Advance version is probably your best bet.

Speaking for myself, I don't think I'd ever go for GBA over SNES.

[youruglyclone]

I'd like to hear more about this New Game + FF3/6 for Super Nintendo.

On topic, I think regarding which one is the better choice, if you haven't played the Super Nintendo game, then getting the cheaper Game Boy Advance version is probably your best bet.

Speaking for myself, I don't think I'd ever go for GBA over SNES.

yeah second'd I'm interested in this new game + patch.

[exit]

This is kind of OT but I this thread made me want to play the game again (PSX version) and it's as great now as it was when I was 13. I may pick up the GBA version if I ever see it, just so I can have it in my collection since this is probably my favorite Non-3D Final Fantasy.

[Blitzwing256]

SPOILER ALERT!

(course if you havn't beaten the game by now...blah blah you've been warned)




basicly the hack allows you to once you've gotten to the world of ruin you can go into the training room in narshe ,if you talk to the guy at the desk he'll ask you if you want to do a new game+, which will put you back at the beggining of the game back at level 1 BUT you'll have all your stats (not hp/mp remeber how the stat system works in the game you can only increase your stats via espers) you'll have all your items espers and learned spells. Its a very well done and glitch free hack, you can finally complete a full set of items and espers as well as get multiple paladin shields ragnaroks iullumins atma weapons and other rare trinkets, not to mention you can really customize godlike charecters. its honestly a feature the original game should have had and more so the gba version.

[winniethepujols]

I am kind of anal when it comes to ports like this; for whatever reason I don't like playing a game a second time after they have made changes -- even if they're for the better. I want to play it the way it was when I played it way back when! But then again, you've gotta remember my interest in gaming is often fueled solely by nostalgia...

So my vote goes to SNES.

[Icarus Moonsight]

Does the Vanish/x-Zone trick still work in the GBA version? When I played the SNES version I had to use that on the ultima weapon. I hate the grind of power leveling. If I'm in a grinding mood I'm most likely playing Diablo or Phantasy Star Online.

[Blitzwing256]

Does the Vanish/x-Zone trick still work in the GBA version? When I played the SNES version I had to use that on the ultima weapon. I hate the grind of power leveling. If I'm in a grinding mood I'm most likely playing Diablo or Phantasy Star Online.

nope it works the way its spose to, vanish was spose to make your magic resistance 0 but somehow they fucked it up and made it so every spell never fails (only reason it doens't work on poltergiest and the final statues is they have a specific nonmagical imunity to instant death attacks)

[ADG566]

Get the SNES version!
First of all, the audio is 5X better, and fuller. These games are basically silent films, audio is hugely important.
Kefka's laugh is Kefka's laugh, not some half-assed thing in the GBA verison.
SECOND of all, the GBA version is sooo much easier, they made the game much easier beceause they don't want people running down their batteries levelling up or facing a challenge.
The SNES version keeps the integrity of the game, while the GBA version is for kindergarden.

[ClassicGameTrader]

SPOILER ALERT!

(course if you havn't beaten the game by now...blah blah you've been warned)




basicly the hack allows you to once you've gotten to the world of ruin you can go into the training room in narshe ,if you talk to the guy at the desk he'll ask you if you want to do a new game+, which will put you back at the beggining of the game back at level 1 BUT you'll have all your stats (not hp/mp remeber how the stat system works in the game you can only increase your stats via espers) you'll have all your items espers and learned spells. Its a very well done and glitch free hack, you can finally complete a full set of items and espers as well as get multiple paladin shields ragnaroks iullumins atma weapons and other rare trinkets, not to mention you can really customize godlike charecters. its honestly a feature the original game should have had and more so the gba version.

And what might this hack be callled? Where can we find it?

[kainemaxwell]

SPOILER ALERT!

(course if you havn't beaten the game by now...blah blah you've been warned)




basicly the hack allows you to once you've gotten to the world of ruin you can go into the training room in narshe ,if you talk to the guy at the desk he'll ask you if you want to do a new game+, which will put you back at the beggining of the game back at level 1 BUT you'll have all your stats (not hp/mp remeber how the stat system works in the game you can only increase your stats via espers) you'll have all your items espers and learned spells. Its a very well done and glitch free hack, you can finally complete a full set of items and espers as well as get multiple paladin shields ragnaroks iullumins atma weapons and other rare trinkets, not to mention you can really customize godlike charecters. its honestly a feature the original game should have had and more so the gba version.

Wow, sounds like the new game+ from CT, except cooler!

[strassy]

Get the SNES version!
First of all, the audio is 5X better, and fuller. These games are basically silent films, audio is hugely important.
Kefka's laugh is Kefka's laugh, not some half-assed thing in the GBA verison.
SECOND of all, the GBA version is sooo much easier, they made the game much easier beceause they don't want people running down their batteries levelling up or facing a challenge.
The SNES version keeps the integrity of the game, while the GBA version is for kindergarden.

i have played and own both, i don't really agree with this. i suspect the SNES audio is better, but I've only played the GBA version on a GBA micro, never on a TV.

i am almost 100% sure that the GBA version is NOT easier. the only thing that made it easier when I played through it (in the fall) was that I wasn't 14 anymore like I was when FF3 originally came out. Therefore, I had more patience to not run from 90% of random battles, and thus my characters were at higher levels than they would have been in 1995.

one thing the GBA version has on the SNES version is that they fixed some glitches (including the "Sketch" glitch, which would sometimes mess up the game and force you to reset)

that said, I am a purist and if I could only keep one, I'd keep the SNES version...mostly just because I played the F out of that game in the mid-90s and it is a nostalgia thing.

bottom line, in my opinion there is really not too much difference between the two.

[heybtbm]

i am almost 100% sure that the GBA version is NOT easier.

Agreed. The GBA version is not easier at all. Actually, it's harder in some respects due to the fact that you can't use the vanish/doom thing.

The audio was optimized to sound decent coming out of the GBA's tiny little speakers. It sounds a bit muffled on a surround sound system (if you were going to play it on the Game Boy Player for example), but wasn't a huge issue to my ears.

[veronica_marsfan]

Get the SNES version!
First of all, the audio is 5X better, and fuller. These games are basically silent films, audio is hugely important.
Kefka's laugh is Kefka's laugh, not some half-assed thing in the GBA verison.
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So so true. Super Nintendo has such beautiful 16-bit sound - why would you muffle it through a GBA speaker?

And:

If you're worried about losing a gamesave, play the PS1 version where you can save on multiple cards (the original and a backup). Or on an emulator with the same options.

[Blitzwing256]

sorry for the long wait, I dug around in my snes folders and definatly found the patched rom, and I think the ips patch was in the same folder, I stuck it up here with a few save states to show what you can do if you have a sick amount of time (and a speed throtle key)

http://www.green-ranger.com/nes/ff3/

i just wish i remeber the web site i got it from, a very well done site that had a neat list of where all the chests were, including the one unobtainable chest with the sprint shoes early early in the game.

[Haoie]

As noted in 1 of the posts above, there's a PS version too.

But that's pretty much an exact port from the SNES. Well I recall there was a bestiary, plus a few cutscenes in FMV.

[strassy]

...and long load times, i believe

[Soviet Conscript]

Agreed. The GBA version is not easier at all. Actually, it's harder in some respects due to the fact that you can't use the vanish/doom thing.

The audio was optimized to sound decent coming out of the GBA's tiny little speakers. It sounds a bit muffled on a surround sound system (if you were going to play it on the Game Boy Player for example), but wasn't a huge issue to my ears.

are the GBA versions of the first couple FF's easier? or am i thinking of the PS1 port of the origional?

[Volcanon]

The PS1 FF1+2 has, for FF1 an easy mode and a normal mode. In the GBA version they force you to use the easy mode.

[Blitzwing256]

Every remake of 1 and 2 were made MMMMMMMMMMUCH easier in many many ways, the gba 2 pack is unfortuatnly the worst o the bunch, even with the extra "hard" dungeons its a joke dificultywise, without doing any leveling up in 1 I was able to beat the whole game just by walking from point a to point b, aside from the random rub spell none of my charecters ever died or even came close to dying in the real game or the extra dungeons (seriously what the fuck is up with giving you several staffs that cast flare/nuke for free?) ff2 for gameboy is uber dumbed down as well ,although for a short time the bonus dungeon has a small degree of challenge till you pick up a certain item for each charecter at the halfway point or so, then it becomes ridiculously easy again., 4 ,5 and 6 have thier original dificulty intact (japanese not us) and 4 is based off the japanese "hardtype" version not the easytype or pussytype (us) versions.

[erehwon]

Well, I picked up FFIII for the snes today. I had this whole bundle of guides I couldn't get much interest on in the trade forums, so I took it to McVans. They only took half of the guides, but I got $4 for each and ended up with $44 in credit. I had $12 in credit after getting FFIII. I don't normally like the idea of paying that much for older games, but finding snes stuff at garage sales and thrift stores is difficult in this area.

[Soviet Conscript]

Every remake of 1 and 2 were made MMMMMMMMMMUCH easier in many many ways, the gba 2 pack is unfortuatnly the worst o the bunch, even with the extra "hard" dungeons its a joke dificultywise, without doing any leveling up in 1 I was able to beat the whole game just by walking from point a to point b, aside from the random rub spell none of my charecters ever died or even came close to dying in the real game or the extra dungeons (seriously what the fuck is up with giving you several staffs that cast flare/nuke for free?) ff2 for gameboy is uber dumbed down as well ,although for a short time the bonus dungeon has a small degree of challenge till you pick up a certain item for each charecter at the halfway point or so, then it becomes ridiculously easy again., 4 ,5 and 6 have thier original dificulty intact (japanese not us) and 4 is based off the japanese "hardtype" version not the easytype or pussytype (us) versions.

whats about the PSP FF 1 and II? i know they even have more bonus stuff but how are those difficulty wise?

[c0ldb33r]

Well, I picked up FFIII for the snes today. I had this whole bundle of guides I couldn't get much interest on in the trade forums, so I took it to McVans. They only took half of the guides, but I got $4 for each and ended up with $44 in credit. I had $12 in credit after getting FFIII. I don't normally like the idea of paying that much for older games, but finding snes stuff at garage sales and thrift stores is difficult in this area.
There's a store near here that sells loose FF3 carts ... (wait for it) ... $99.99!!! Yupp, that's right. $100.00. They've got about 20 of em. The guy must see them as his retirement nest egg.

[exit]

...and long load times, i believe

You must be thinking of Final Fantasy Chronicles, the load times for Chrono Trigger can be pretty rough, it's especially noticable when going into the character menu. With FF Anthology, I think there's a 1 second pause (if that) for battles, other than that it runs smoothly.

[Blitzwing256]

whats about the PSP FF 1 and II? i know they even have more bonus stuff but how are those difficulty wise?

just as easy as the gba ones, aside from prettier graphics (slighly) they are virtally the same, big disaponitment espeicaly since they are 30$ a pop.

[Volcanon]

Does anybody else wish they would just make a different game similar to ff1 but without retreading the same game over and over? Remakes are cool when they add cool stuff and great graphics like the Dragon Quest 3 remake, but endless crappy remakes are uh crappy. Every FF1+2 remake from PS, GBA, PSP could easily be much better graphics and bonuses-wise but just sucks hard turds.

[Blitzwing256]

so buy a game from a different franchise? theres a boatload of decent to excelent rpgs on the gba/ds and psp currnetly, just because its not square doesn't mean it sucks :-). I have noticed the last few new final fantasy games have been awfully mediocre (ff11 ff12 and that new ds one have been beyond awfull)

[Volcanon]

Well recently I've been working through stuff like Super Robot Wars: Original Generations (PS2) and Langrisser 4+5 (PS1), but those are SRPGs. I haven't seen any good non-remake console RPGs in a good long time.

[Blitzwing256]

try the suikoden series, dragon warrior/quest, if you have access to a 360 blue dragon is very decent and that last odessyy game looks interesting as well.

[veronica_marsfan]

...and long load times, i believe

Turn on the "fast load" option on your PS2, and the slow load times on Final Fantasy 6 disappear.