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MadTitan
02-03-2008, 01:55 PM
I recently purchased the Dragon Warrior V reproduction from game reproductions and I was wondering if Dragon Warrior VI had ever been translated and if there was a site that made reproductions it? Thanks for your time.

Dreamc@sting
02-03-2008, 01:57 PM
I'm almost positive theres no english translated reproduction - as of now you're stuck with the rom but Square Enix is releasing it on the DS in english

Snapple
02-03-2008, 02:05 PM
There is an English fan translation of DQ6. I recommend it. There's also a translation for DQ5. I also recommend that. I don't believe that reproductions have been made for either of them though. You could always make one yourself.

108Stars
02-03-2008, 05:32 PM
There is a Dragon Quest VI-translation, but itīs not complete. The main-story is translated, but some random stuff that is not so important remains japanese.

As for reproductions, I would be happy to have one too, but since this is illegal most people who do such things sell the games on eBay for hundreds of Dollars.

Jorpho
02-03-2008, 06:38 PM
As for reproductions, I would be happy to have one too, but since this is illegal most people who do such things sell the games on eBay for hundreds of Dollars.

Um... no? (http://www.nesreproductions.com/)

108Stars
02-04-2008, 02:58 AM
Um... no? (http://www.nesreproductions.com/)

Yes, it is illegal, no matter what those guys say. Very few console-games are abandonware, and even if the original company is now defunct, the rights of everything are 99% sure to be held by another company now; defunct companies in such a market usually donīt vanish into thin air, but their remains are swallowed by others. It is those companies right alone to decide what to do with those ROMs, whether they are unreleased or long out of production is not important.

The fact that it does not "hurt" anyoneīs buisiness does not make it legal; these carts are still bootlegs and intellectual property of their copyright-holders. Not to mention that in the case of Dragon Quest VI the copyright belongs to Square-Enix, who are about to launch a DS-version of the game in the near future.

Not that you misunderstand me: I buy those repros myself in order to have a way to play such games on real hardware, but I do that knowing it is not legal. I salute those who offer them for little money and donīt sell copies of, say, Star Ocean in English for 300,-$.
Thankfully, since not many people do those repros, and the effort of legal actions would not be worth it for many long forgotten games anyway, the copyright holders have not interfered yet. But with games such as Dragon Quest, Final Fantasy, Zelda and Castlevania, this may change when it gets too much.

Daria
02-04-2008, 10:51 AM
There is a Dragon Quest VI-translation, but itīs not complete. The main-story is translated, but some random stuff that is not so important remains japanese.

As for reproductions, I would be happy to have one too, but since this is illegal most people who do such things sell the games on eBay for hundreds of Dollars.

Technically even downloading the game to apply the translation is illegal, so you have to be willing to bend the rules a little to play the game in english anyway. High horses need not apply. That said the rest of your sentence should read " but since this is illegal most people who do such things do them discreetly." There's always the few assholes that will throw a copy of Seiken Densetsu 3 up on ebay and cry "OMG ULTRA RARE GAME!" But buying one affordably is really a case of knowing someone who knows someone sort of deal.

Jorpho
02-04-2008, 11:50 AM
Oh, I agree it's illegal; I just disagree that "most people who do such things sell the games on eBay for hundreds of dollars" simply because it is illegal. (Actually, I have the impression that most of those games that sell on eBay for hundreds of dollars are people trying to pass them off as some sort of uber-rare prototype.)

108Stars
02-04-2008, 12:22 PM
My thought why most people sell that stuff on eBay would be because they might be not so much in the spotlight as when they have their own internet-shop like nesreproductions...at least I donīt know many such shops, but I do see translated carts for big money on eBay all the time.

I can get Mega Drive-repros for a fair price, but for SNES I donīt know any place...http://gamereproductions.com/ ("gamereproductions.com) has onhly DQ V, and it is out of stock for a while, and the owner could not tell me if it is PAL-compatible. I have manuals on how to do repros of several SNES-RPGs, but no soldering skills. Are there any other places for SNES-repros?

Snapple
02-04-2008, 12:55 PM
Technically even downloading the game to apply the translation is illegal, so you have to be willing to bend the rules a little to play the game in english anyway. High horses need not apply. That said the rest of your sentence should read " but since this is illegal most people who do such things do them discreetly." There's always the few assholes that will throw a copy of Seiken Densetsu 3 up on ebay and cry "OMG ULTRA RARE GAME!" But buying one affordably is really a case of knowing someone who knows someone sort of deal.

Technically, you don't HAVE to do anything illegal to play the fan translation. You can buy the game legally, copy the game to your computer with a flash drive or something, then apply the patch. After the patch is applied, you can either put it on a blank cart or play it on your PC. Emulation isn't illegal either, after all.

However, I'll be honest. I do not own copies of DQ5 or DQ6 or Seiken Densetu 3. I played all of those games illegally. I don't feel guilty about that, because it's not like Nintendo left me with a lot of choices on how to play the game.

Daria
02-04-2008, 11:50 PM
Technically, you don't HAVE to do anything illegal to play the fan translation. You can buy the game legally, copy the game to your computer with a flash drive or something, then apply the patch. After the patch is applied, you can either put it on a blank cart or play it on your PC. Emulation isn't illegal either, after all.

Technically. But really, who does?

I'd like to do it for PSX games, Tales of Phantasia specifically. But the reality is as an English speaker finding the game for sale is difficult. Ebay's always the luck of the draw. And they're just not that many import stores that carry older games. ToP isn't even that uncommon, I'd hate to be hunting for a rarer game.

So yes you 'can' play the games totally in english on the up and up. But it's a pain in the ass. :P

108Stars
02-05-2008, 03:34 AM
Technically, you don't HAVE to do anything illegal to play the fan translation. You can buy the game legally, copy the game to your computer with a flash drive or something, then apply the patch. After the patch is applied, you can either put it on a blank cart or play it on your PC. Emulation isn't illegal either, after all.

No, I donīt believe this is legal either...copying your own game to the computer is legal in some places of the world, but the change of the program (applying an unauthorized patch) is not. Officially, this is prohibited as well.
Technically, you do not "own" the game; you just buy the license to play it. Thus you must not change it in any way.

About getting japanese games...that is extremely easy, and even pretty cheap. All those RPGs are super-common in Japan, and can be obtained from eBay-shops anytime. Complete copies of DQ V and VI would cost me about 13,-€ each.

Daria
02-05-2008, 07:28 AM
All those RPGs are super-common in Japan, and can be obtained from eBay-shops anytime. Complete copies of DQ V and VI would cost me about 13,-€ each.

SNES is abundant granted. But there's more translated RPGs than just the Dragon Quests of the World.

Snapple
02-05-2008, 01:47 PM
No, I donīt believe this is legal either...copying your own game to the computer is legal in some places of the world, but the change of the program (applying an unauthorized patch) is not. Officially, this is prohibited as well.
Technically, you do not "own" the game; you just buy the license to play it. Thus you must not change it in any way.

I've never heard that before, ever. As long as you're not reselling it, I don't see why you can't do whatever you want with your game. Using a Game Genie "changes the program" too, but that doesn't mean it's illegal to use a Game Genie.