how do i get ps2 games into progressive scan mode?

[Poofta!]

i have a white fatty ps2, when i play any games, whether they are "progressive scan" compatible or not, they always show in 480i (according to my tv).

anyone know how to change this?

[Oobgarm]

Should be a menu option within each game. The system doesn't do it on it's own.

[cityside75]

Probably stating the obvious, but you also need to be using the Component cables.

[slip81]

Should be a menu option within each game. The system doesn't do it on it's own.


yeah, and with most games you have to turn it on each time, like a GCN. Some games may do it automatically though, I think Burnout 3 does it, because there is no option for turning it on/off.

[mailman187666]

I know that Star Ocean 3 uses progressive scan but in the instruction manual it says in order to use it you have to hold down two buttons while the game starts up ( I forget which butons they are). I think Gran Turismo 4 is supposed to go up to 1080i but I am not sure if there is an option setting or if you have to hold any buttons down or what. Jak 3 has a menu option.

[Neil Koch]

I know that Star Ocean 3 uses progressive scan but in the instruction manual it says in order to use it you have to hold down two buttons while the game starts up ( I forget which butons they are).

You hold down triangle and X. A few games are like that, I know if you don't do it while loading Guitar Hero II, the screen is all distorted.

[heybtbm]

You hold down triangle and X.

That is correct. For the games that don't have a progressive scan option in the options menu, you have to push triangle and X while the game boots up.

It's by far the most irratating method for getting some games to utilize 480p. At least the Gamecube would "remember" the progressive scan setting after the 1st time you used it (by holding "B" as the game booted up).

[mailman187666]

so what happens if you play Star Ocean 3 in a PS3 where it is supposed to upscale old PS2 games. If you hold X and triangle does it look better? or will PS3 automatically do that pretty much? I never tried it but I bet there is probably no difference.

[WanganRunner]

I've been playing a lot of GT4 in 1080i and it's delicious looking.

I just sat in front of my TV last night watching my Honda S500 lap deep forest in replay in high res....beautiful stuff.

[Poofta!]

thanks everyone, i havent tried it yet but i will once i get home.

do all games do this or only games marked 'progressive scan' in the back? as i recall GT4 doesnt say that...


and yes, it is obvious, i am using component cables.

[mailman187666]

I'm pretty sure my copy of GT4 says 1080i on the back. Also I think only certain games have progressive scan.

[heybtbm]

do all games do this or only games marked 'progressive scan' in the back? as i recall GT4 doesnt say that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_HD_Enhanced_PS2_games

[Poofta!]

wow great list. thanks. is it up to date?

so if i press triangle/X on other games, nothign will happen?

also do i need to hold the 2 buttons to get into 16:9 mode? or is that auto.

[Neil Koch]

I have an old fat black PS2 and to get 16:9, you need to go into the PS2 settings menu and change it to that. Not sure about the newer models.

And if you hold triangle/X on games that don't have progressive scan, nothing happens.

[klausien]

I believe it also matters how old your PS2 is. The older ones that need the little controller plug for the DVD remote were not progressive scan enabled. If your PS2 works with a remote without that part, you should be golden using any of the above-mentioned methods.

[Leo_A]

List is very incomplete, I see several 480p PS2 titles missing from it such as Capcom Classics Collection Volume 2 (480p according to IGN's review, I only own the Xbox version).

[Putney]

I believe it also matters how old your PS2 is. The older ones that need the little controller plug for the DVD remote were not progressive scan enabled. If your PS2 works with a remote without that part, you should be golden using any of the above-mentioned methods.

Actually I don't think that's the case. My PS2 doesn't have the built in IR port for the remote, and I can play games in progressive scan. Perhaps it's movies that can't be played in progressive scan on those models? (Not sure and I never use my PS2 for movies). OR it's the first models that required a large memory card file installed to use the remote control...

[Poofta!]

I've been playing a lot of GT4 in 1080i and it's delicious looking.

I just sat in front of my TV last night watching my Honda S500 lap deep forest in replay in high res....beautiful stuff.

i got it working and i think it looks pretty ugly still (a lot better than 480i) but nothing compared to what forza 1 on the original xbox could do.... if you think this is nice, you really need to join the new gen consoles... or at least get forza for the xbox. it makes this game look like ps1.



I'm pretty sure my copy of GT4 says 1080i on the back. Also I think only certain games have progressive scan.


i checked and the game does *not* say that in the back... shadow of the colosus also doesnt say it.



Actually I don't think that's the case. My PS2 doesn't have the built in IR port for the remote, and I can play games in progressive scan. Perhaps it's movies that can't be played in progressive scan on those models? (Not sure and I never use my PS2 for movies). OR it's the first models that required a large memory card file installed to use the remote control...


youre right, older consoles could not display movies in 480p, not games.

[klausien]

Actually I don't think that's the case. My PS2 doesn't have the built in IR port for the remote, and I can play games in progressive scan. Perhaps it's movies that can't be played in progressive scan on those models? (Not sure and I never use my PS2 for movies). OR it's the first models that required a large memory card file installed to use the remote control...


youre right, older consoles could not display movies in 480p, not games.

Ah, I stand corrected. Wasn't totally sure on that one!

[jupitersj]

so what happens if you play Star Ocean 3 in a PS3 where it is supposed to upscale old PS2 games. If you hold X and triangle does it look better? or will PS3 automatically do that pretty much? I never tried it but I bet there is probably no difference.

It doesn't do anything. Infact if you activate progressive scan in a ps2 games menu(whether saved or not; not sure when attempting two button method) it will actually disable the ps3's upscaling of the game so this is a no-no.


I've been playing a lot of GT4 in 1080i and it's delicious looking.

I just sat in front of my TV last night watching my Honda S500 lap deep forest in replay in high res....beautiful stuff.

GT4 doesn't really support 1080i, it is a hack over 480p being upscaled w/less colours. You can just by the fact if you can change aspect manually on your tv or change drc...things you normally can't do in real 1080i you can do while gt4 is in "1080i". The frame buffer alone in real 1080i would have eaten almost all of the gs edram.


I have an old fat black PS2 and to get 16:9, you need to go into the PS2 settings menu and change it to that. Not sure about the newer models.

And if you hold triangle/X on games that don't have progressive scan, nothing happens.

To get 16:9 in ps2 games there is almost always an option in one of the game's menus. Changing the 16:9 option in the ps2's dashboard only changes the dashboard's looks(and it's a crop job kinda...) ... actually there is one or two games that will divert to 16:9 only based on that setting but I do not remember them; sorry.

Oh yeah if anyone is interested in mode compatibilities and such there is a huge database on htdvarcade.com

[brabus]

I have a PAL PS2 slim (SCPH77002), and a PAL copy of Gran Turismo 4.

I want to be able to play Gran Turismo 4 in 480p or 1080i - as has been reported online.

I have a 1080p LCD with component input, and the Sony Playstation component cable.

I am aware that my particular PS2 does not support progressive scan for DVD playback (as the menu seems to be absent), however, does that mean that my PS2 can't play games using progressive scan as well?

That is to say, would I have to be able to enable progressive scan for DVD playback, in order for my PS2 to be able to play games using progressive scan? Or does the fact that my PS2 can't utilise progressive scan for DVD playback, mean that it also can't utilise progressive scan for games.

In short, I'm trying to work out whether my PS2 being PAL, is totally blocked out from playing progressive scan in its entirety (whether it be DVD movies, or games).

To date, all I have experienced with my PAL copy of GT4 on my PAL PS2 slim, is 576i at 50Hz. This is with composite or component cables, yet component cables make the image a bit more crisp.

I expect that when I get my PS2 slim chipped, and obtain an NTSC copy of GT4, that in using my component cables, it will be 480p from the outset(?), and I will need to enable the 1080i option in game(?), and then the menus will be 480i and gameplay will be 1080i?

[theclaw]

Sorry for the late bump. PS2 is different than older consoles. PS2 hardware makes no connection between in-game video mode and either console or game region. Unless the console and/or game is modified otherwise, all PS2 systems default all copies of a particular PS1 or PS2 disc to the same mode. For instance if I bought PAL GT4 and play it on my chipped American PS2 the game would still use 576i at 50hz.

You're out of luck with PAL GT4. The developer intentionally removed progressive scan from the PAL game disc of GT4 in software.

Yes what you need is a way to run the NTSC GT4 disc.

[CRTGAMER]

List is very incomplete, I see several 480p PS2 titles missing from it such as Capcom Classics Collection Volume 2 (480p according to IGN's review, I only own the Xbox version).

Can you update the Wiki list with games that you have confirmed? Maybe include the boot button setting too?

@ Poofta! - Some games have a different button hold for the 480p bootup. Refer to that Wiki list, look in the notes at the bottom.

[old_skoolin_jim]

I remember playing Valkyrie Profile 2 in 16x9 480p after I got an HDTV & component cables... S'goooood. :)

[Leo_A]

Someone must've added Capcom Classics Collection Volume 2 after reading my post.

Too bad they didn't check if the first game was also 480p since I bet it is (I also just own the Xbox release of that one as well and can't confirm or find confirmation).


Can you update the Wiki list with games that you have confirmed? Maybe include the boot button setting too?

I can add a few, but I own just shy of 200 PS2 games and a good 100 of them easily are big name releases (And about 30 of them are PAL, which I don't think is covered with that list). So it wouldn't make too big of a big dent I suspect just going through my own collection. Would be best if one of the big collectors for this platform (Versus someone such as myself that just buys what they want to play) would tackle trying to get that list to a reasonable state of completion.

But I recall that post that I made and when I'm able to locate a game I know was progressive scan capable within seconds of visiting the link, the list is no doubt very incomplete (At least as of a few years ago when I made that post). That doesn't mean it's not a good source though, it just means that being absent from the list is far from a guarantee that a game lacked a progressive scan mode.